If this is the case who is making up stuff? What gets me is if either is stretching the truth, what is in it for them, is Cavey being paid to promote stern or has dsb got a vendetta against stern? I'm confused 
Why......why is it so????
The case has always been a certain member posting as fact what they WANT the story to be instead of what it actually is...
Who is it we wonder???
...Answers on a postcard please..
