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Aussie Pinball Forums => Restorations => Topic started by: beaky on March 19, 2009, 06:15:46 PM
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Hi guys.
here are some pics of my Swords of Fury after a quick coat of wax on the playfield (buffed with a Cloth), and only 1 coat of wax on the cabinet (using a low speed electric car buffer).
the pics of the cabinet were taken without a flash.
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pic of PF missing
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i am adding them as i go
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and more
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and one more
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WOW! ^^^
That looks mint!
Nothing left to do except play!
No wonder MM wanted it so much.... :lol
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I stil have a cracked ramp to fix and decals to replace.
then depending how the milar comes up after the novus treatment is done i may be removing it and giving it a clear coat.
+ i will be painting the inside of the cabinet black. and polishing the metal work inside the head board.
But i must admit it is in extremly good condition for a 21 year old machine.
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I stil have a ramp to fix and decals to replace.
then depending how the milar comes up after the novus treatment in done i may be removing it and giving it a clear coat.
+ i will be painting the inside of the cabinet black. and polishing the metal work inside the head board.
I've got a similar issue with my Police Force....I'm too scared to remove the mylar as an late 80's Sys11b games...
I have some very slight bubbling on some inserts...Does not really effect game play to bad though..But the mylar is a little dull too. I've given it a little go over with Novus but could not get that nice shine...After much thought I've invested in a kit from Treasure-Cove from Allen who gets some great results..
When it arrives I'll post some before / after shots for everyone's viewing...
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if the bubbles are only on the inserts get you self a new set of insert decals, cut out the mylar over inserts + remove the old decals and stick on your new decals and hey presto no more bubbles.
make sure you get the high quality ones that don't need mylar or clear coat over them.
I have done this once before and it worked a treat.
if you do remove the mylar you will need new decals for the inserts. one trick i have found handy is to put on the decals after you have clear coated it and the clear coat has cured properly, (leave it a few weeks) then if the decals do bubble again you can just peel them off and put on new ones with out recoating your playfield with clear coat.
here is a link i have found which is very handy if you want to remove your mylar. they use a product called goo gone which you can't buy in austrlia but can get on ebay from america.(http://pinball.flippers.info/mylarremoval.asp)
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This has come up great so far - if I was doing it up I would definitely do something about the decals as they do detract from the overall look.
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Yep, she's a CLEAN Machine.
One of the most regular comments i heard (when talking about that SOF) was "That's a really clean pin, looks like it's new".
Sorry about cracking the ramp too, it was probably me ;-)
MM.
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A very nice game - that more than one member on this site was interested at one time #@#
A credit to Andy who did this machine - I was SUPER impressed when I played it.
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I cannot believe I missed it...I love my Sys 11's....
Great work from Mark's crew as usual..
if the bubbles are only on the inserts get you self a new set of insert decals, cut out the mylar over inserts + remove the old decals and stick on your new decals and hey presto no more bubbles.
make sure you get the high quality ones that don't need mylar or clear coat over them.
I have done this once before and it worked a treat.
if you do remove the mylar you will need new decals for the inserts. one trick i have found handy is to put on the decals after you have clear coated it and the clear coat has cured properly, (leave it a few weeks) then if the decals do bubble again you can just peel them off and put on new ones with out recoating your playfield with clear coat.
here is a link i have found which is very handy if you want to remove your mylar. they use a product called goo gone which you can't buy in austrlia but can get on ebay from america.(http://pinball.flippers.info/mylarremoval.asp)
I saw this is how Chris Hutchins did a Funhouse I think... I'm still yet to tackle CC a playfield...I've gotten over the hurdles of playfield removal, PCB repair next will be cab decals...I'm thinking about doing a quick course on airbrushing too...They is a guy who runs one in Thomastown...I've talked my spray painter mate into teaching me clearing (basics) but will take a long time to master...
How long have you been clearing your's for? Any hurdles or tips...
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bloody nice *%*
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Looks good mate keep up the good work
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I cannot believe I missed it...I love my Sys 11's....
Great work from Mark's crew as usual..
if the bubbles are only on the inserts get you self a new set of insert decals, cut out the mylar over inserts + remove the old decals and stick on your new decals and hey presto no more bubbles.
make sure you get the high quality ones that don't need mylar or clear coat over them.
I have done this once before and it worked a treat.
if you do remove the mylar you will need new decals for the inserts. one trick i have found handy is to put on the decals after you have clear coated it and the clear coat has cured properly, (leave it a few weeks) then if the decals do bubble again you can just peel them off and put on new ones with out recoating your playfield with clear coat.
here is a link i have found which is very handy if you want to remove your mylar. they use a product called goo gone which you can't buy in austrlia but can get on ebay from america.(http://pinball.flippers.info/mylarremoval.asp)
I saw this is how Chris Hutchins did a Funhouse I think... I'm still yet to tackle CC a playfield...I've gotten over the hurdles of playfield removal, PCB repair next will be cab decals...I'm thinking about doing a quick course on airbrushing too...They is a guy who runs one in Thomastown...I've talked my spray painter mate into teaching me clearing (basics) but will take a long time to master...
How long have you been clearing your's for? Any hurdles or tips...
about 5 years but have only done 2 pins.
a couple of tips, well one important factor is a dust free enviroment, first coat should only be very light, don't do it on a very windy day even though you are inside when you open the door in comes the dust (or if a mate drops buy and opens the door while your spaying), make sure your playfield is perfectly level before you spray, and before you do your playfield practice on some wood panels or an old door which has been painted black so you can get your technique right + get the feel of the spray gun, let the panel you are practicing on dry and check it for dust, if you see dust on it then you need to find a more dust free area. these things should help when starting out, even if you practice you clear coat on the underside of your playfield (after masking all your inserts) you should be able to see if your ready for the important side.
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one question, how come if mark had it for so long no one bought it?
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I never had the coin when i discovered i was 'liking' the game.
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one question, how come if mark had it for so long no one bought it?
In my case, I was waiting for the infamous "80's Container" as I had reserved a Haunted House and a Spirit.
If the HH and Spirit were not available - I would have snagged the SoF.
In the end, I took the HH, Spirit (X2) and a Force II. So I had to let the idea of snagging the SoF go
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one question, how come if mark had it for so long no one bought it?
Mark quite often has lots of 'goodies' out back or if he doesn't have it he will get it...
I guess your pins like MM, Monster Bash, AFM, TZ etc are generally sold before they even have time for a coffee (hehe, my 1st coffee joke! $#$ )
Some times pins can sit for a bit and get sold on Ebay....Mark had two F14's and both were gone by the time I made up my mind and sorted the cash...Hmm who got that one again...... ^&(
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Very nice ^^^
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one question, how come if mark had it for so long no one bought it?
It's all about timing, isn't it?
Like, whether you have the cash and where the pin in question is ranked on your list. And whether those two meet up with the pin for sale.
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one question, how come if mark had it for so long no one bought it?
Well sometime they stay out the back because we have a backlog of "sold" and we get around to revamping the ones out the back in between checking and fixing sold ones
there is just not enough time sometimes so some are left to wait in the shadows.
That's why if your after something specific it is better to ask if we have something than wait to see if it becomes available sometime.
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one question, how come if mark had it for so long no one bought it?
Well sometime they stay out the back because we have a backlog of "sold" and we get around to revamping the ones out the back in between checking and fixing sold ones
there is just not enough time sometimes so some are left to wait in the shadows.
That's why if your after something specific it is better to ask if we have something than wait to see if it becomes available sometime.
Going out 'the back' is the best part. I love seeing the pins in their original state - straight off the container....Like your Jackbot for example. Even though its dusty and in need of a good clean, you can see an A1 machine underneith.
Bit like finding a nice XU1 Torana (dirty) in a shed. I would much rather enjoy bring one back to its original glory..
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Wow Nino now i understand why you were so keen on unloading that Container. I was excited just to help but with 3 pins waiting i would have been like you aswell
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Wow Nino now i understand why you were so keen on unloading that Container. I was excited just to help but with 3 pins waiting i would have been like you aswell
I've been pushing Mark / Childs for quite some time to chase older pins. Once I saw some "early" photos - I recognized the games and basically asked if I could "reserve" them - pending availability. I also helped "twist" Mark's arms to keeping a "lookout" for them.
It also helps if you give the guys a list of what you may be after. It helps them make the business decisions based on demand. I always knew that a 40 footer and 20 footer full of oldies was going to "walk out the door" - and I was right. I basically asked Mark - If you have title X, Y, Z - Grab them for me.
If someone would have told me four years ago I'd have these games in my collection - I would have laughed my head off. All I did was ask.
Yes - I sweated as the FIRST Haunted house was an empty body !
The SECOND was complete and sits in my garage.
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I,ve noticed that a lot of companys don't bother with the older pins, they walk you through there warehouse with big smiles on there faces, so proud of there collection of "90's" pins. but didn't the mainsteam pinball industry crash and burn in the late 90's? You ask them do you have a bally lost world or paragon of even a black knight (1980). and there reply is we don't bother with the older pins, there is to much work involved in getting them up to scratch. And they call them selves pin enthusiasts! They aren't even intrested in playing the pins they have in stock.I understand there views from a buisness point of view, but still it would be nice to see them with one or two oldies on there floor. My eldest son's school mates would brag about how they have a batman or spiderman pinball and how much better they are then his dads old sof or fire. They come around to play it so they can bag him about the old pins, then you see the look on there faces when they play them and the coments they make, "oh thats sick" one of them said and my son had to nearly pry him off the pin when his mate had to go home.
Long live the older pins which i say are a piece of our history.
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Long live the older pins which i say is are a piece of our history.
Spot on!
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I,ve noticed that a lot of companys don't bother with the older pins, they walk you through there warehouse with big smiles on there faces, so proud of there collection of "90's" pins. but didn't the mainsteam pinball industry crash and burn in the late 90's? You ask them do you have a bally lost world or paragon of even a black knight (1980). and there reply is we don't bother the older pins, there is to much work involved in getting them up to scratch. And they call them selves pin enthusiasts! They aren't even intrested in playing the pins they have in stock.I understand there views from a buisness point of view, but still it would be nice to see them with one or two oldies on there floor. My eldest son's school mates would brag about how they have a batman or spiderman pinball and how much better they are then his dads old sof or fire. They come around to play it so they can bag him about the old pins, then you see the look on there faces when they play them and the coments they make, "oh thats sick" one of them said and my son had to nearly pry him off the pin when his mate had to go home.
Long live the older pins which i say is are a piece of our history.
There was a very honest and open thread about a similar topic with some great input..
http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=485.0
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Your right there beaky they do ignore the old ems but thats great means more projects for me yeahhhh $#$
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I,ve noticed that a lot of companys don't bother with the older pins, they walk you through there warehouse with big smiles on there faces, so proud of there collection of "90's" pins. but didn't the mainsteam pinball industry crash and burn in the late 90's? You ask them do you have a bally lost world or paragon of even a black knight (1980). and there reply is we don't bother the older pins, there is to much work involved in getting them up to scratch. And they call them selves pin enthusiasts! They aren't even intrested in playing the pins they have in stock.I understand there views from a buisness point of view, but still it would be nice to see them with one or two oldies on there floor. My eldest son's school mates would brag about how they have a batman or spiderman pinball and how much better they are then his dads old sof or fire. They come around to play it so they can bag him about the old pins, then you see the look on there faces when they play them and the coments they make, "oh thats sick" one of them said and my son had to nearly pry him off the pin when his mate had to go home.
Long live the older pins which i say is are a piece of our history.
That's very true, and I'm pleased to hear your passion for the older pinballs.
DMDs are very pretty games with lots of bells and whistles, but they hardly have the character of the oldies like Paragon etc. I have two DMDs (CV and JP) and they look awesome and play well. But I ALWAYS go back to Paragon. That's because I grew up with these machines.
It is hard to import these olders pins - and that's purely a Business decision. In addition - it also depends on what market the dealer wants to sell into. You are right - It takes longer to get the oldies "up to standard", and most dealers are not interested in spending the time or resources.
A Medieval Madness and a Strikes and Spares take up the same amount of space in a container. One has a high return on investment, the other does not.