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Title: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: solar value on February 01, 2012, 10:42:52 PM
Hi all,

Does anyone have any (or know where I can get some) early 80s Williams coin entry plates for Australian coins?

I'm looking for both the metal entry plates and the plastic windows.

The US dollar metal entry plate I have on the door fits a 20c coin so that may be OK but I'll need to find one that fits a $1 coin as well.

I'd like to find an Australian "20c" and maybe a "$1" plastic window.

And if anyone has a metal blank for the middle window that would be great.

These are the parts I'm talking about (US version):

(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m483/antswanmail/0092.jpg)

 
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: ddstoys on February 01, 2012, 10:45:47 PM
Im getting some laser cut at the moment I'll let you know when I get them if you like
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: solar value on February 01, 2012, 11:10:29 PM
That would be great, thanks Daniel.

You mean the plastic windows, right? How are you going to do the text?

Maybe I can cut the slot a little wider in one of the "quarter" metal entry plates to fit $1 coins, anyone tried this?
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: TUF-427 on February 13, 2012, 11:26:09 PM
My FP has 20c and 50c mechs where I just filed the original slot plates to suit the coin sizes,

I bought some aussie mechs off fleabay,the 50c turned out to be a 20c so it got the file treatment too works well on 50s now!

even got it to reject 20c and smaller,1credit 20c and 3 credits for 50c

the plastics I used come with the CPR Plastics set could prob stencil the denominations on them.

Peter
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: solar value on February 14, 2012, 12:05:06 AM
Looks good, must have been a thin file to get in there?

I wonder if CPR sell the plastic windows separately? Maybe I'll contact them.
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: ddstoys on February 14, 2012, 08:35:42 AM
You can enlarge the slots with a dremel and a thin grinding tip only takes a couple of seconds
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: solar value on November 19, 2012, 01:29:30 PM
Hi All,

Still looking for 20c coin windows for early 80's williams, also early 80's Bally now.

Would also like to find/make $1 windows.

Can any post some pics of the original Aussie ones so I can look into making some, I don't even know what they looked like.

Dainel, did you end up getting these made?

Thanks, SV.
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: wonder on November 19, 2012, 04:22:49 PM
Didn't CPR make some of the plastic ones a while ago to suit the Aussie dollar. !@#
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: solar value on January 31, 2013, 07:59:33 PM
Hi everyone, just bumping this...

Can someone please take some pictures of early 80's Australian coin entry windows for me so I can look into making them. Looking for pics of 20c, 50c and $1 (if they exist?) plastic windows for Bally and Williams machines, preferably taken with a ruler next to them to make them easier to draw up. If any one has some Gottlieb ones and wants to take the paper inserts out and photograph these too that would be great.

Thanks, SV.
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: solar value on October 26, 2013, 10:28:42 AM
Hi All,

Bumping this again,

I now have Swinks on board who has agreed to help me make some Australian plastic coin entry windows.

Does anyone have any early-80s Bally or Williams Australian 20c (or other denomination) windows they could photograph, take dimensions of or lend to Swinks so we can get the ball rolling?

Come on guys, lets get these reproduced for Aussie collectors!
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: Strangeways on October 26, 2013, 11:30:23 AM
I'll have a look - I think I have some old ones Jady can use as a sample.
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: Freiherr on October 26, 2013, 11:32:45 AM
I got these photos from my Williams Flash restoration.
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: swinks on October 26, 2013, 11:50:28 AM
I'll have a look - I think I have some old ones Jady can use as a sample.

That would be good Nino, then I can model up accurately and work out a way to make them available, and return the items back to you of course.

Thanks for the photos Freiherr but hopefully a sample can be provided and then I make accurate ones.
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: Strangeways on October 26, 2013, 12:10:20 PM
I'll have a look - I think I have some old ones Jady can use as a sample.

That would be good Nino, then I can model up accurately and work out a way to make them available, and return the items back to you of course.

Thanks for the photos Freiherr but hopefully a sample can be provided and then I make accurate ones.


I'll send you a stack of samples, Jady. PM coming !
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: solar value on October 26, 2013, 06:36:29 PM
Wow! Awesome, great work everyone.
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: goodolddays on October 30, 2013, 11:31:57 AM
I think there will be a huge market for these
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: swinks on November 12, 2013, 03:16:32 PM
I should have a plate and chute modelled and print tested up by the end of the week, thanks to Nino for sending a sample of each but I think as 25 cent items.

Question: would the 20 cent coin plate be the same dimensionally as the 25mm but with the chute tailored to suit a 20 cent piece with say a 1mm gap either side as well as top and bottom.

Or are the 20 cents and 25 cent parts all no longer available parts?
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: solar value on November 12, 2013, 04:04:35 PM
Hi Swinks, firstly we need to distinguish between Willliams parts and Bally parts. The parts which Freiherr posted a picture of are Williams parts.

Question: would the 20 cent coin plate be the same dimensionally as the 25mm but with the chute tailored to suit a 20 cent piece with say a 1mm gap either side as well as top and bottom.

Yes, I believe the metal plate is exactly the same for Australian 20c coins and US quarters. The only difference is the size of the coin slot which is slightly larger.

The white plastic chute is also exactly the same.

The window is also the same except for the text (see Freiherr's Photo for the Aussie version and my initial photo for the US version)

I believe all these parts are desperately needed. I think it would also be useful to have versions of the plate and the windows to suit Australian 50c and $1 coins, I'm not sure if these were ever made (can anyone confirm?) but they would be good to have anyway. If you were going to do these you would just have to change the size of the slots to fit $1 and 50c pieces and change the text on the windows.

Now, we also need the same done for the Bally parts which are not the same as the Williams ones. I'm not sure if anyone has sent you any Bally parts, but the Bally coin door doesn't use the plastic chute, it has a metal one which is part of the coin door itself so no need to reproduce this.

Or are the 20 cents and 25 cent parts all no longer available parts?

None of the parts suiting Aussie coins are available to buy.

Let us know what you have so far and we will put the call out for what you need. I think to do the job properly you need to have an Australian sample of both the Williams and Bally plates and windows, the chute can be a US version because it is the same.

Do you have the equipment to produce the text on the windows or do we have to find someone else to look after this aspect of the project?

Here's a couple of quick pics of the Williams and Bally coin doors so you can see the differences:

(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m483/antswanmail/DSCN3721.jpg)

(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m483/antswanmail/DSCN3720.jpg)
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: swinks on November 12, 2013, 04:09:11 PM
ok what I got from Nino is different as the coin entry is on the right side of the plate.

so maybe if someone can send a few samples and then we can create Aus versions for 20, 50 and 1 dollar plates and chutes etc
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: solar value on November 12, 2013, 10:34:36 PM
so maybe if someone can send a few samples and then we can create Aus versions for 20, 50 and 1 dollar plates and chutes etc

OK, everyone, you heard the man!

We need Australian examples of both the metal plates (which have the coin slots) and the windows (which show the price) for both Williams and Bally games (see above for what we are talking about). These are on a heap of games from the late 70s/early 80s so there should be a lot of them out there. We are asking you to lend these to Swinks so that he can draw up the design for the reproductions (they will be returned to you). Then we will all be able to start feeding our games 20c coins like back in the milk bars of yore. Everyone will benefit!

P.S. Has anyone ever seen 50c or even $1 versions of these, did pinball machines accept these denominations back in the day??? ( I expect that they were not produced for the $1 coin as it didn't come in until 1984, right?)
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: Crashramp on November 12, 2013, 10:40:58 PM
 $#$  $#$ fantastic that your doing these Jady. I think I have some of the Bally SS plates in a box somewhere. I'll have a look for them in the morning if you don't have these already.
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: Strangeways on November 12, 2013, 11:16:56 PM
CPR produced some of the US denominations and I have a heap of these and some custom standard plastic windows.

I will have NOS Bally windows, and used Bally Windows. I will have used Williams in Aussie Denominations.

I also have the metal plates for 20c pieces. To the best of my knowledge, there will not be 50c or $1 plastic plates as the last of this type of coin door predates the $1 coin. I don't remember any 50 cent coin acceptors except the ones my Father custom made for Billiard and soccar table coin acceptors.

Whatever I can find, I'll send up.
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: swinks on November 12, 2013, 11:19:47 PM
here is a PBR's range though many out of stock but a good visual reference

http://www.pbresource.com/CoinDoor.html


and what ever is sent to me will be returned.
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: Crashramp on November 14, 2013, 11:11:10 PM
I found a nice 20c window. Not 100% sure but this one may not be original?  !@#  *)*


(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/14/enahusyj.jpg)
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: pinball god on November 14, 2013, 11:45:34 PM
I found a nice 20c window. Not 100% sure but this one may not be original?  !@#  *)*


(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/11/14/enahusyj.jpg)
i think I found some $1 ones from the same maker  %.%  @@*
Title: Re: Bally and Williams early 80s Australian coin entry windows
Post by: solar value on January 31, 2016, 11:30:31 PM
OK, resurrecting this thread.

Going to make my own coin entry windows using PETG and water slide paper

Can anyone post a picture of a Bally window for Australian 20c or $1?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: solar value on February 16, 2016, 09:16:25 PM
OK here's my first effort. I made a Williams 20c coin window. First I drew the artwork using Paint.net (free software similar to Photoshop). Then I printed the design onto clear waterslide decal paper in reverse. I also printed an outline of the design onto white waterslide paper. Cut them both out and applied them to a blank window (available from Marco Specialties). Lastly, I sprayed a coat of acrylic clear on the back to seal. As you can see it came out pretty well. It could perhaps be a little darker, not sure if I will get around to doing it again. I also have the artwork for the Bally windows. I have found a source for the blank Bally windows in the US (Tyler-Olson@live.com) and am waiting for them to arrive.


(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m483/antswanmail/DSCN7015.jpg)
(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m483/antswanmail/DSCN7016.jpg)
(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m483/antswanmail/DSCN7017.jpg)
(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m483/antswanmail/DSCN7020.jpg)
(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m483/antswanmail/DSCN7018.jpg)
(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m483/antswanmail/DSCN7023.jpg)
(http://i1128.photobucket.com/albums/m483/antswanmail/DSCN7028.jpg)
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: swinks on February 16, 2016, 09:17:58 PM
great work  ^^^ they look the real deal
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: MartyJ on February 16, 2016, 09:35:50 PM
Great work there SV.

If you have any extras I would love to buy two off you to finish off Gregs BK.

Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: Crashramp on February 16, 2016, 10:46:29 PM
Excellent work, they look great.  ^^^
Title: Re: Williams early 80s Australian coin entry plates
Post by: solar value on February 17, 2016, 09:16:25 AM
Hi Marty,

The blank Williams coin entry plates are available at Pinball Resource (I said Marcos before but that was wrong). See here:

http://www.pbresource.com/CoinDoor.html


If you get some I can email you the print sheet for the decals and you can print them out using a laser printer onto waterslide decal paper and apply them yourself.

PBR has the "Dollars" one for sale so you only need to make the "20c" one.