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Title: X-men
Post by: Cow Corner on October 20, 2012, 11:13:57 AM
Can't stop playing it since it arrived, it is so much fun and it sits very well next to Ironman.
Bring on the Avengers, Marvel superhero pins are insane!!!
 #*#
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Caveoftreasures on October 20, 2012, 02:01:29 PM
Photos and video are missing.   hint hint.... #@#

Well done on getting your X Men Pro.  ^^^
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: v8racefan on October 20, 2012, 02:39:34 PM
Congrats Darren,

Yeah pics or it didn't happen!!!  &&
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on October 20, 2012, 02:56:07 PM
Cool
What mods are you going to install?
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Cow Corner on October 20, 2012, 11:22:36 PM
Cool
What mods are you going to install?

Storm, blackbird, and magneto mods.
Custom topper, leds, mirror blades and cliffy protectors for the scoop and ball eject.
I took some photos of the unboxing, I will get around to loading them onto the computer and post them.
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Ant68 on October 21, 2012, 07:46:26 AM
Can't stop playing it since it arrived, it is so much fun and it sits very well next to Ironman.
Bring on the Avengers, Marvel superhero pins are insane!!!
 #*#

I was impressed when I played it.
Do you have room for Avengers LOL
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: coon82 on October 21, 2012, 10:35:24 AM
Congratulations, seems like a cool pin.
The mods will really make it  ()
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: GORGAR 1 on October 22, 2012, 08:43:12 AM
Congrats on your new purchase its a great day hey? I think Ant68 meant now your have to get Avengers to have the set of super hero's pinballs ^^^

How many games have you played?

Peter
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Caveoftreasures on October 22, 2012, 10:54:05 AM
Can't stop playing it since it arrived, it is so much fun and it sits very well next to Ironman.
Bring on the Avengers, Marvel superhero pins are insane!!!
 #*#

I was impressed when I played it.
Do you have room for Avengers LOL

Tony(ANT) meant will u be buying Avengers and can u fit it in to build your superhero pinnys, he wasnt suggesting your house was small.lol
A lost in translation occurred here.
If u met Tony(ANT) he is the nicest and most professional bloke u could ever meet who is as sincere as they come.

Glad u are enjoying X Men Daz, its such a fun game with so much going on. Just action packed from the get go.
I think over time, this pin will be recognised by many as one of, if not, Sterns most fun pins they have ever built.
There is just so much to do with so many shots. A game u can play for a hour non stop and not get bored. Not many titles are like that.

How cool is the jet noise Daz when the rocket ship takes off. Very cool.  ^^^ ^^^
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Cow Corner on October 22, 2012, 03:46:44 PM
Sorry I have been drinking for 3 days solid while the missus and the kids have been away, must have got that wrong and I appologise. I will delete the b/s.
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: RottyGuy on October 22, 2012, 07:50:48 PM
Congrats on the new pin. I'm sure it sits nicely next to Ironman.
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Cow Corner on October 22, 2012, 08:41:19 PM
Congrats on your new purchase its a great day hey? I think Ant68 meant now your have to get Avengers to have the set of super hero's pinballs ^^^

How many games have you played?

Peter


NIB pin day is the best day pinwise no doubt there.
I have not checked the audits but must be up in the 100's somewhere.
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Caveoftreasures on October 22, 2012, 08:50:53 PM
Daz, whats your best score so far ?

Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Cow Corner on October 22, 2012, 10:14:27 PM
Daz, whats your best score so far ?



38million
It is kicking my arse quite a bit but I have everything set on hard.
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Caveoftreasures on October 23, 2012, 01:20:39 PM
Daz,   a few questions.

How long are ball times with everything set to hard versus standard (moderate) ?  !@# OR are the ball times the same-ish, but the scoring is just alot more difficult ?
I found the ball times on X Men Pro are excellent, and the scoring on Std is quite hard, meaning reaching say 25 million is difficult, so if u are reaching close to 35 to 40 million with everything set to hard, u are doing really well.

Whats your favourite mode or favourite part of the game, any audio or dot matrix stuff that sticks out ?
My favourite part was trying to lock all balls to get multiball, and trying to get each n every X Men character along the way.

Give us all a quick rundown about the game and what you like about it the most. Alot of people know about Sterns latest offerings being AC/DC etc, but X Men hasnt got much coverage so to speak, and its just such a fun and captivating game.  ^^^
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Cow Corner on October 23, 2012, 11:11:04 PM
Daz,   a few questions.

How long are ball times with everything set to hard versus standard (moderate) ?  !@# OR are the ball times the same-ish, but the scoring is just alot more difficult ?
I found the ball times on X Men Pro are excellent, and the scoring on Std is quite hard, meaning reaching say 25 million is difficult, so if u are reaching close to 35 to 40 million with everything set to hard, u are doing really well.

Whats your favourite mode or favourite part of the game, any audio or dot matrix stuff that sticks out ?
My favourite part was trying to lock all balls to get multiball, and trying to get each n every X Men character along the way.

Give us all a quick rundown about the game and what you like about it the most. Alot of people know about Sterns latest offerings being AC/DC etc, but X Men hasnt got much coverage so to speak, and its just such a fun and captivating game.  ^^^

To be honest I find this game pretty hard but very enjoyable at the same time.
Ball times can be very short like Ironman if the shots are not dialed in right or can be quite long when the shots are pure and the flow kicks in. The settings on hard only make the villians harder to beat. I don't think I am doing that well on it score wise compared to many who are getting 60 odd million on the LE, maybe the pro is a little faster but surely not 30 mill in diference so my play is not as good as I would like it on this game. I find IM a lot easier but I have owned it longer.

My fav modes are the villian modes in particular sentinels and juggernaut, i like have having to beat the health meter down on juggernaught to get his helmet off and them try and hit the xavier shot to beat him. rouge and Strom are my fav hero modes, rouge in particular is very cool as the more x-men powers you absorb from each different shot the more you score.
The nightcrawler mode on the pro is  brilliant, hit the flashing shots as nightcrawler moves between the two ramps, very hard and very cool mode. Much better than just smashing MM style trolls as they pop up and down.
I also like the health meter on magneto to beat him, for mine it gives the game a real different fell other than just hitting a shot that awards a jackpot. The fact that there are no jackpot calls on this game is also very refreshing.

Audio wise it is hard to nail any one thing I like, it is all very solid imo but if I had to pick a fav it would prob be iceman and wolverine. I would really like to add a subwoofer to this to enchance the audio even more.
The custom dots are top notch, i love them all but the extra ball sequence always brings a smile to my face, wolverines claws slice a pinball in half to reveal a x.

Shot wise, I can't get enough of the beast loop into the storm ramp from the third flipper if I can make it, a very fast and rewarding shot indeed. The cyclops mini loop into storm is great too. The rouge and storm skillshots are neat and the magnets are just what i would expect after owning IM, very powerfull and very hectic.

And then there is just the beauty of the machine in it's artwork...wow it really is a looker.

Strategy wise I always try to collect a few x-men shots first after the skill shot and try not to get wolverine to early and get as many hellfire and brotherhood targets as possible as I move into the hero modes. I have only had brotherhood multiball a couple of times and am yet to see hellfire multiball.
Other than that i am still learning as I go.

All up it is a huge winner for me and while I know it will not be everyones cup of pinball tea  i think Borg and his team have nailed this theme in a big way and another code update around xmas will only make this pinball better.
If anyone is considering this game for a future purchase I endorse it fully.



Title: Re: X-men
Post by: burninator on October 23, 2012, 11:18:52 PM
Reading this thread sucks when you've never played the machine...will need to go and hunt one down so I can have a game!
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Cow Corner on October 23, 2012, 11:23:51 PM
Reading this thread sucks when you've never played the machine...will need to go and hunt one down so I can have a game!

If your in Brisbane drop me a line and you can come and play it...bring beer!
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Caveoftreasures on October 24, 2012, 09:14:41 AM
Daz, thank you for your great response about your new x men pro.  ^^^

I learnt heaps just from reading your detailed responses and that will help me when my machine arrives.

I arrived in Sydney this morn from the Gold Coast and will be going in and saying hello to Bruce from amd and will be checking out my x men pro before it ships. $#$

 I enjoy having a chat with the guys from amd and its fun checking out all the brand new in box machines and all the opened demo display models. Hopefully I will get to play the x men le and maybe something else depending what's set up since my last visit.

So tempted to stick a ac/dc premium next to the ac/dc pro at home.  &&  I have played the x men pro already of course and its excellent. Might be good to hear the audio for a change since the one at time zone is always drowned out by fifty other arcade games.
  Anyway, might get to take a few photos and a few videos to share with all the Aussie pinball guys before I leave and am considering going on to Melbourne whilst I am traveling for a week on holidays whilst researching my new 2013 arcade business idea. I will also be looking at new sega twin driving games and some other required arcade stock for next years launch, more on that later ....
Like daz said, x men pro is definitely a excellent new title to purchase for anyone wanting to part with some well spent pinball coin.

Stay tuned for some x men photos n videos if Bruce n amd don't mind.  ^^^
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: GORGAR 1 on October 24, 2012, 09:49:33 AM
Daz, thank you for your great response about your new x men pro.  ^^^

I learnt heaps just from reading your detailed responses and that will help me when my machine arrives.

I arrived in Sydney this morn from the Gold Coast and will be going in and saying hello to Bruce from amd and will be checking out my x men pro before it ships. $#$

 I enjoy having a chat with the guys from amd and its fun checking out all the brand new in box machines and all the opened demo display models. Hopefully I will get to play the x men le and maybe something else depending what's set up since my last visit.

So tempted to stick a ac/dc premium next to the ac/dc pro at home.  &&  I have played the x men pro already of course and its excellent. Might be good to hear the audio for a change since the one at time zone is always drowned out by fifty other arcade games.
  Anyway, might get to take a few photos and a few videos to share with all the Aussie pinball guys before I leave and am considering going on to Melbourne whilst I am traveling for a week on holidays whilst researching my new 2013 arcade business idea. I will also be looking at new sega twin driving games and some other required arcade stock for next years launch, more on that later ....
Like daz said, x men pro is definitely a excellent new title to purchase for anyone wanting to part with some well spent pinball coin.

Stay tuned for some x men photos n videos if Bruce n amd don't mind.  ^^^

I must have missed something Brett are you becoming an operator? also ask Bruce if my Tron has left Stern yet #@#

Peter
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Caveoftreasures on October 24, 2012, 12:35:55 PM
Yes Pete, but something very different to what has been done before in Australia. Pinball meets 2020 in 2013.

i wanted to do something at a fixed location this last two years with large amounts of pinny machines but Gold Coast city council has made it impossible with all the restrictions they have placed upon any arcade business up here etc.

 Details later in early 2013. One of the reasons I came to Sydney was to persue this new business model. i just might have me a killer of a idea which I think is even better for pinball and arcade machines in Australia.  Details in 2013 as I am closer to making it happen. I can't release any specific details at all til early 2013.
I might need an extra few x men pros.lol.

Will see if any tron machines are laying around at amd tomorrow after lunch.lol  ^^^

Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Cow Corner on October 25, 2012, 11:13:18 AM
Just got 62 million this morning.
Defeated Magneto for the first time and got the all the heros completed to light Danger Room but choked and lost the ball before I could make the shot.
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Replay on October 26, 2012, 01:57:38 PM
congrats on the new pin!

better than Xmas and it usually happens more than once a year!
Title: Re: Re: X-men
Post by: MPE on October 26, 2012, 02:15:04 PM
Will have a chance to play a X-men LE tonight. After reading some reviews here I can't wait
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Caveoftreasures on October 26, 2012, 04:18:12 PM
The LE and the Pro play differently.  I think the pro is a little faster, and the 3rd flipper isnt hidden by the ramp on the pro but, the LE has more eye candy and the large nightcrawler pop up targets x 2, plus the moving ramp/spinner disk.
I prefer the pro for the $$, but would look at buying ? the LE if i had the extra few grand spare ?.... Its a hard call. Both are very very good.
Play both the Pro and the LE if u get a chance and u can feel the difference and then work out which one is for you.

note- all machines look Amazing in person, both the LE models are stunning and the Pro looks sensational as well. Beautiful looking games that blow u away when u first walk up to all 3 models. Anyone who has the chance to pop into AMD in Sydney and say hello to Bruce and check out all the floor stock should make the time, well worth it.
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Cow Corner on October 29, 2012, 10:14:18 PM
Some pics

Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Cow Corner on October 29, 2012, 10:17:42 PM
Some more pics

Title: Re: X-men
Post by: swinks on October 29, 2012, 11:09:01 PM
very nice Daz, you will have to change those cards though
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Cow Corner on October 29, 2012, 11:40:28 PM
very nice Daz, you will have to change those cards though

yep, if I come across some custom cards I will be sure to grab them.
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: MPE on October 30, 2012, 12:31:18 AM
The LE and the Pro play differently.  I think the pro is a little faster, and the 3rd flipper isnt hidden by the ramp on the pro but, the LE has more eye candy and the large nightcrawler pop up targets x 2, plus the moving ramp/spinner disk.
I prefer the pro for the $$, but would look at buying ? the LE if i had the extra few grand spare ?.... Its a hard call. Both are very very good.
Play both the Pro and the LE if u get a chance and u can feel the difference and then work out which one is for you.

note- all machines look Amazing in person, both the LE models are stunning and the Pro looks sensational as well. Beautiful looking games that blow u away when u first walk up to all 3 models. Anyone who has the chance to pop into AMD in Sydney and say hello to Bruce and check out all the floor stock should make the time, well worth it.

If the Pro is faster than the LE then it would be crazy fast!

The X-Men game is the fastest ive played i think
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: swinks on October 30, 2012, 06:08:18 AM
very nice Daz, you will have to change those cards though

yep, if I come across some custom cards I will be sure to grab them.

I have some, will send some through to you.
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Cow Corner on October 30, 2012, 09:38:26 AM
The LE and the Pro play differently.  I think the pro is a little faster, and the 3rd flipper isnt hidden by the ramp on the pro but, the LE has more eye candy and the large nightcrawler pop up targets x 2, plus the moving ramp/spinner disk.
I prefer the pro for the $$, but would look at buying ? the LE if i had the extra few grand spare ?.... Its a hard call. Both are very very good.
Play both the Pro and the LE if u get a chance and u can feel the difference and then work out which one is for you.

note- all machines look Amazing in person, both the LE models are stunning and the Pro looks sensational as well. Beautiful looking games that blow u away when u first walk up to all 3 models. Anyone who has the chance to pop into AMD in Sydney and say hello to Bruce and check out all the floor stock should make the time, well worth it.

If the Pro is faster than the LE then it would be crazy fast!

The X-Men game is the fastest ive played i think

Ironman is even faster!
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Cow Corner on October 30, 2012, 09:38:52 AM
very nice Daz, you will have to change those cards though

yep, if I come across some custom cards I will be sure to grab them.

I have some, will send some through to you.

Thanks Jady, much appreciated mate.
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Caveoftreasures on October 30, 2012, 12:15:08 PM
If the Pro is faster than the LE then it would be crazy fast!
The X-Men game is the fastest ive played i think
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Yes, played both the X Men Pro and the X Men LE and the PRO is apx 10 to 20 percent quicker i reckon because on the LE, the right moving ramp slows down gameplay a bit, the spinning disk gathers balls which slows it down a bit, and the pop up night crawler targets block shots making it again a little slower cause u dont gat as many balls flying back at you with the round the world shots, and the magnets seem to be a bit quicker n more random on the Pro.
I think you will find this is the case, and is going to remain the case with all new Stern Pro models compared to the LE models. It is the same with the AC/DC models with the Pro being faster as well. Its primarily because the Pro games are designed to have shorter ball times, with everything designed to be as quick as buggery to get your coins quicker and more often, and the games rules/shot layouts are also designed to make u lose your balls quicker to help make the operators more money.
  I feel personally, for a brutal fast game, with more unforgiving gameplay, designed to be harder n faster, always go the Pro..... But if u want more shots, with more time, and more eye candy, always go the LE.  I just like the bang for ya buck that the Pro model always delivers, plus the savings pay for over a third to almost half of the next new Pro model coming out....
....In a ideal world, with lotto winnings in hand, you would buy both a Pro and a LE.   It would be amazing to have a decent Stern collection featuring both Pro and LE machines in abundance. 70 million Lotto tonight guys.  && &&  @.@ %.%

P.S - thanks for the pictures Daz of your X Men. Excellent !  ^^^
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: v8racefan on October 30, 2012, 05:55:11 PM
Thanks for the pics Daz, it looks great next to your IM, congrats  ()
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Cow Corner on October 30, 2012, 06:01:55 PM
Thanks for the pics Daz, it looks great next to your IM, congrats  ()

Cheers mate, a nice pair of boat anchors for sure but I love them.
 ^^^
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Prince on October 30, 2012, 10:49:56 PM
Looking good there Daz.
Congrats on your purchase.
Title: Re: X-men
Post by: Caveoftreasures on October 31, 2012, 01:26:43 AM
A few pics to add to Daz's X Men thread.

John Borg, designer of many great games incl X Men, just was inducted into the Pinball Hall of Fame for his many years of excellent service and great design work for our great pastime and personal passion, Pinball.
 I have personally communicated with John and he is a top bloke who has a heart of gold, and a very friendly man who happily gives time to chat to pinball fans. He is probably my favourite game designer.

X Men is a winner, and I am sure many people at the 2012 Pinball Expo got to enjoy the game and see what a top notch job John has done with this title. He certainly wouldnt be getting the award this year if X Men wasnt a top notch game in my mind.
Well done Borgy.

pictures below