my two legged dog Owen died
I think it's fine, as is...I mean if a topic dosnt intrest you then don't read it. This forum, I thought was about all things Pinball, EM, SS, DMD, repairs, restores, everything. Then you simply read the topics that intrest you! It ain't that hard people.
Leave as is, it's great ^^^
I mean if a topic dosnt intrest you then don't read it.
Well when i log in I go first to Restoration, Then to Tech, then to for sale and parts as this is what interests me. I find heaps of help and havw been able to rebuild and or problem shoot with the help of others. I'm 57 and this will be my retirement hobby, doing what I loved as a teen and young adult playing pinball. My Grandson has Autism and pinball has increased his eye hand coordination, If it wasn't for this site and those willing to help then this wouldn't be happening. With out the tech side NO PINBALL.
I think it's fine, as is...I mean if a topic dosnt intrest you then don't read it. This forum, I thought was about all things Pinball, EM, SS, DMD, repairs, restores, everything. Then you simply read the topics that intrest you! It ain't that hard people.
Leave as is, it's great ^^^
i can't quite see the point of this excersize,unless you admin already have decided on a direction that you wish to enforce.I personally think it is fine as it is,balanced and informative.while being entertaining.
you will ultimately decide as "you" own the forum.
Perhaps threads which are non pinball related be prefixed with NPR (not pinball related) eg "NPR - my dog died". I've seen this done in other forums with great success
On a separate note I have to say as a newbie it took me so long to find all the sections on the forum. I honestly posted in a section once then it took me ages to find it again next time I logged in. there are so many sub forums, I started to try and count them once and I think I lost count after 30. There were subforum inside subsections inside subsections.
I was one to say if you don't like a topic don't read it, but also mentioned that there is too much nasty stuff too. The problem is I may like a topic in the beginning and really would like to see how it progresses but then find it turns into a slinging match between certain people. What I want I for those people to ignore each other and save me (and maybe others) the pain of having to bypass this stuff. Notice I'm not talking for others but sometimes self censorship doesn't work and I find myself frustrated getting shitty of the in fighting.
I truly believe the tech threads have come to a grinding halt. I seem to recall look in daily for a week or so and finding the same tech problem at the top with no new replies. Now I know this is not pinball. You can't own pinball and not have problems and I know we are all not experts (and now I'm talking for others %.%). This also tells me that many of the guys who used to give me great advise have gone. This is not healthy *.*
Lets hope we can recover before its too late. If I'm wrong the worst that can happen is nothing ^^^
I can see this thread starting to deteriorate and go much the same way as many others.yep.
What is the problem?who is pointing the finger?I just can't see it.Or are you talking about me?lol. %.%+1
Nino, why have constructive posts by multiple members just been deleted and targeted specifically. ?
That un-neccesary and un-needed selective censorship has turned the thread into a lie.
People were working their differences out which is what will make the forum move forward.
You should put it all back, otherwise its just rigged n worthless.
I believe the hobby in Australia has degraded itself into a ‘lets nitpick the living f*ck out of everything on X new game and bag the hell out of it ( yes , guilty as charged with my thoughts on WOZ ) and on top of that it has become VERY much slanted with Stern lovers/ Haters and then the garbage follows.
Nino, I say its a sham. Its a lie. Its discrimination as usual. (and I don't understand what a OP is and half of your original post on the first page by the way, its confusing).
You kept all your personal member friends posts but removed the majority of mine. Ofcourse.
People were working out their differences.
Selective censorship and selective post deletion = blatant favouritism and blatant discrimination.
You don't want a democracy on here, you want a dictatorship. The above proves it.
Leave this post untouched for a week to show your democracy forum !
So this thread has died.So what is the future direction of the administrators as to the sites future. ^&^
The future of Aussie pinball should be a place where everyone gets along and focuses on making the site fun like its always been.
I have taken peoples criticism onboard, there is not much more to do except to keep the site flowing along with positive stuff.
People like myself and Swinksy, who post a lot and open a lot of threads, do so to make the place a bit interesting and entertaining when not much is happening.
I thought I was doing a good thing by making a big effort and doing threads to keep some content up to the site when little was being posted.
I am sure Swinksy feels the same about all of the content he has also added.
The tech threads I do read, they inform me, but they dont entertain me. Stuff about Metallica, or Sterns latest pinball, or a discussion thread about Wizard of OZ or the new Colour DMD displays etc, entertain me. I always thought, all this activity, posting these threads would help the site, not hinder it, cause I thought people would just skip over it if it didn't interest them. It had nothing to do with big noting, it had to do with trying to add value when the site was very quiet.
Anyway, my hope for the site is we all get along, move on from the past, read what we want, don't read what we don't, and for censorship to stay to a minimum, because I reckon as adults, we can all politely sort our differences out from now on.
The site is great already. I am hoping that by leaving the layout the same way it is now, will keep it great. Either way, as long as people are having fun on here, that's all that matters. Long live Pinball.
With nino now involved in his "australian pinball restorations" and nick with medical problems.I think this is all about the comitment to keep this forum going,ie mods time and input.Plus the expense of server storage and ongoing costs ascosiated with running a hugely succesfull forum.I think the administration need to come clean with their intentions,and desires for moving forward,and hope it does not offend too many members.
My 2 bobs worth.
I as others are probably curious of what your thoughts are Admin (assuming collective for Nino / Nick) of what has been said so far, agree, disagree, confirmed your desires "As administrators, we personally would rather see one good restoration thread than ten opinions on the latest and greatest."
Interested to hear your take on peoples ideas are so far ????, as it may encourage some re-fined discussion.
This not being able to edit posts is REALLY pissing me off!!!!!!
I am a stickler for correct spelling and punctuation so, when I make a typo etc, I want to be able to correct that.
To be frank - this will prevent me from bothering to post much as it annoys me so much.....
Overall AP is a good site, and I am known for posting new news from pinside which may annoy the crap for some but I do it as feel some people enjoy just as much as I do. But for me when I go to pinside I am lucky to look at 1% of threads on a daily basis and only read things that catch my eye. But if it is preferred I can stop with those posts.
I like the fact that you post stuff here from wherever, I do not have enough time to look at any other forums regularly so it keeps me up to date without having to find the info myself, if I don't like a topic I skip past it.
I like the fact that you post stuff here from wherever, I do not have enough time to look at any other forums regularly so it keeps me up to date without having to find the info myself, if I don't like a topic I skip past it.
+1 .. can't see any harm in it myself , and as Swinksy said, better to paste what the poster said rather than editing it
That annoys me too Mike, but I can understand why it was implemented, when someone posts an opinion that starts a debate or arguement, then the person goes back and changes their initial comment it loses all its context, and that shits me way more.
What we DO KNOW, is several members have decided to leave AP, or not contribute as actively as they did in the past. We want to know if it is because of the forum direction - which for the last 2 years, has changed. Maybe the Forum has not changed with the times ? The software is circa 2008 ! Maybe this forum DICTATED the hobby for a while, but that is no longer the case ?
What has not changed is the forum Software. This is now a MASSIVE undertaking that has to be outsourced. There are technical challenges ahead that have risks associated and costs involved. Is it worth it if members are leaving or don't want to participate ?
Then there is my obvious "conflict of interest" - as one of the originators of AP, as the biggest spammer on AP, as a Commercial Business on AP. Is this "arrangement" affecting AP ? Is it time for me to move on ? As some are aware, the hours Nick and I put into the running of the site are massive.
Is this worth the effort - Should we just forget about it and shut shop. Is the site redundant ?
Are people still enjoying AP as they did 2 - 3 years ago. Should we go back to our roots ?
Should we be investing MORE sections into the NEW manufacturers / Stern / JJP ?