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Bally relay help for Elektra lower playfield..
« on: October 24, 2009, 12:06:05 AM »
Ok so how do I replace this relay???I hear that they dont make them anymore...is there something else I can use???

Has this written on it..

FRL-264  D048/02ck

BALLY P/N
E-146-795
COIL 48VDC

this is the bad boy here.....

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Re: Bally relay help for Elektra lower playfield..
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2009, 12:10:38 AM »

AHA !

Just answered this in the other thread - Reflow the header pins and relay pins. There should be a 555 globe in circuit ? I can't see it there. If the globe is dead - then you will experience weird solenoid problems.
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Re: Bally relay help for Elektra lower playfield..
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2009, 12:14:22 AM »
I cant see a globe in there..
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Re: Bally relay help for Elektra lower playfield..
« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2009, 12:16:29 AM »
I have a relay if you end up needing it.  It's the same as the one on the sol driver board.


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Re: Bally relay help for Elektra lower playfield..
« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2009, 12:19:32 AM »
I cant see a globe in there..

must be different from the one I have in my Medusa.
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Re: Bally relay help for Elektra lower playfield..
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2009, 12:29:57 AM »
In my experience it is highly unlikely to be the relay.  There will be a globe near where the relay is mounted under the playfield.  It needs to be present and working (see Marvin guides for detail - the extra load is required).  Also, the lamp driver SCR for that globe obviously needs to be working.  I had a Vector with a poor solder on the switched lamp bridge rectifier - while the lamps worked, there was not enough power for the solenoid expander board to operate properly.

I presume you have re-flowed the solder on all the pins on the expander board?

If you really want a new relay, Ed at GPE has them brand new.

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Re: Bally relay help for Elektra lower playfield..
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2009, 12:38:21 AM »
Yep i did a re-flow....

and now all good...I found the globe...it was working but must have been on the way out...
So i changed the globe anyway....

and now all working....

SWEET...have a fully working Elektra now...thanks for the help guys..
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Re: Bally relay help for Elektra lower playfield..
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2009, 10:05:57 AM »
Yep i did a re-flow....

and now all good...I found the globe...it was working but must have been on the way out...
So i changed the globe anyway....

and now all working....

SWEET...have a fully working Elektra now...thanks for the help guys..


Its the same old story - Machine not working, but it was fixed in 5 minutes and cost you a 555 globe  #*#

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Re: Bally relay help for Elektra lower playfield..
« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2009, 06:53:18 PM »
The problem has come back again...I blame Wotto..lol..

Maybe it needs a new bridge rectifier...good place to start I guess....
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Re: Bally relay help for Elektra lower playfield..
« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2009, 09:57:20 PM »
No harm in replacing the bridge rectifier.  Could also be the SCR on the lamp driver board.  What are the symptoms?

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Re: Bally relay help for Elektra lower playfield..
« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2009, 10:38:53 PM »
ALL FIXED....
I just pulled all the connectors in the head on and off...
And the problem has well and truly gone...and it also fixed the dodgy display as well...
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Re: Bally relay help for Elektra lower playfield..
« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2009, 10:42:45 PM »
do you enjoy the pin Paul...any chance its a keeper?