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Aussie Pinball Forums => Restorations => Topic started by: Strangeways on November 02, 2008, 12:26:03 AM
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Lots of System One love recently... Time for a Classic System One Restore - For a member on AP &&
Background
This was a game purchased from that Magical Child's Container. There's something about these old classics, and I was hoping I'd get a run at a System One machine before I start my system 80s. Anyhow, this game is like all the games from that container - Great playfield, Good backglass and Good Body... on the negative side - these games were sitting in storage for more years than they were operated (my theory), so there is some rust and corrosion.. That does not deter me at all...
Condition
Backglass - 7/10 - Good. Might need to be sealed, but it seems to be ok. I've seen it one or twice..
Cabinet - 8/10 - Under the dirt, there's a nice cabinet. No major scratches or dints. Corrosion on the inside of the door.
Playfield - 9/10 - Been mylared (contact) very early on in its life. ZERO wear.. Vibrant colors and no lifting.
Electronics - 0/10 - Purchased without boards (as is machine).. Pascal PI-X4 was ordered and I've got it on my desk ! so it will be 10/10.
Objective
To restore the game - not recondition. The game has HEAPS of potential if it is done right. No stone unturned - biggest hurdle will be the corrosion. PI-X4 ensure reliability.. This SHOULD be a great player and fantastic addition to the gamesroom.
Starting point
MarkC dropped the game off (amongst others #@# - and helped me re arrange my garage). First thing to do was a quick examination of the game and a point of agreement with the new owner about the parts that will be ordered. Parts have been ordered, and it looks like the game will get the "full treatment" - which is just the way I like it !
Initial Pictures
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20656.jpg) (http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20661.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20657.jpg) (http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20658.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20660.jpg) (http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20663.jpg)
Check out the Bally/Williams legs on the Game !! These are a spare pair that I removed from my CV..
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20659.jpg)
Outside of the door is very good and straight
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20666.jpg)
Inside of the door shows the amount of corrosion and rust..
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20662.jpg)
GREAT colors for a game this old....
Stay tuned... Lots happening on this game !!
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Nice condition machine to pick up - VERY clean apart from the corrosion inside the door.
This will come up BEAUTIFULLY!
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I'm the AP member Nino is talking about. I can't wait to get that in my gamesroom! It goes without saying, please keep the updates coming.
Did you order the spinner plastic as well mate?
LOL at the legs!
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ive always wondered are them 3 block things in the cab for the alarm if someone sets off the anti slam switch
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It's the chime unit.
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ive always wondered are them 3 block things in the cab for the alarm if someone sets off the anti slam switch
I spat drink all over my comp screen when i read that... :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
sorry coolspot, i had to post... *%*
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Lots of fun for the first update.. Time to strip the cabinet down to the last screw, and start some cleaning. I concentrate on the lower cabinet and the job of removing as much corrosion as I can. I will try several methods - but first - I need to work on the lower cabinet.
Here's the lower cabinet stripped completely, and the transformer board removed. The cabinet will be vacuumed and washed with my favorite product - Nifti - and the transformer board will be stripped and cleaned.. Some may think this is going a bit "overboard", but that's just the way I like doing things.. <.>
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20684.jpg) (http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20694.jpg)
Before cleaning the cabinet with any chemical, it is worth checking to see if that chemical reacts with the paint. So a small area is trialled first to see if any paint lifts etc... This was not the case..I did the front area with Nifti and an old paint brush the night before, and it looked great in the morning. First thing I did was vacuum the cabinet and they use a compressor to remove anything that was missed.
Cleaning the inside and outside of the cab is easy.. Bucket of water, Nifti, wet rag, dry rag and old paint brush. Spray the Nifti liberally on the cabinet, and let it run for a minute. Scrub with the paintbrush until it lathers and watch the years of crap disappear before your very eyes ! Rinse the brush, grab the wet rag and remove the crap from the parts of the machine and rinse. Go over the section again wit the wet rag and finally - Dry with the dry rag.. Do this for every inch of the cabinet - no short cuts... *.*
It should look like this ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20717.jpg) (http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20719.jpg)
Look at those colors ^^^
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20714.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20716.jpg)
I was really happy with the result....
Siderails
Next we grab some 360 wet/Dry sandpaper and some windex.. Cut the sandpaper into squares and fold it into your sanding block. Spray the Sandpaper, NOT the machine.... Now run the block from left to right on the siderails - in long runs from tip to tip of the machine.. Do this on all angles of the siderails.. Watch out for the nail heads.. These nails are pretty bad, so I will be replacing them - they are cheap, so NO SHORTCUTS %.%
Front Door
Not the best I've seen, nor the worst. Strip the door of every screw and soak everything in a tub of Nifti and hot water.. Leave it overnight. Now to tackle the inside of the door.... The outside skin is PERFECT.. Dead straight ^^^..
Here's what is a head of me ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20712.jpg)
I'm going to try a few methods here.. Windex and scotchbrite will do the trick here - or so I hope !!
So I try a test part - on the inside of the door - not seen if the coin mech is in place... Green Scotchbrite and windex with a bit of elbow grease and here are some results...
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20721.jpg)
The parts are exactly the same. One cleaned as described above and a brass wire brush for the corners.. Took a while, but it does have some encouraging results.
Transformer Board
Both transformers are rusted - so hey will be cleaned - just for "looks"... Wire brush took care of that, and I removed the brackets and gave them a clean with scotchbite pads and windex...
The wooden base was sanded, and all the screws were dipped in Ranex... Be REAL careful with this stuff - it is a nasty acid and it will eat your clothes and burn your skin.. I left the screws in a small container, and the chemical reaction took place and the screws lost 30 years of rust in 20 minutes.. I cleaned the wiring up and washed the cable ties...
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20724.jpg)
There's a nice "shine" to the transformers... Will they work better - "NO" <.> but they look good...
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20726.jpg)
There's the first "session" on the Sinbad done..
:D
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I'm all barred up over a pinball now :lol Fantastic progress!
This is looking awesome. I can't believe how much you've done in such a short space of time. Do you actually sleep Nino or are you up 24 hours a day doing this?
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I'm all barred up over a pinball now :lol Fantastic progress!
This is looking awesome. I can't believe how much you've done in such a short space of time. Do you actually sleep Nino or are you up 24 hours a day doing this?
I get asked this question all the time - The only way I can answer it is by saying I'm just "passionate" - this is a pastime for me. I don't do anything else except look after the family.. I work in IT - So there's no "hands on"... When I get home from work, I'm straight in the garage.
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Lookin great so far ^^^ Im a big fan of system 1 Gottliebs, so cant wait to see the end result.
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guys i didnt know what it was as cannes is my first pin ^.^ now i know what it is also nino got a pic of under the pf you seem to be missing that one %$%
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guys i didnt know what it was as cannes is my first pin ^.^ now i know what it is also nino got a pic of under the pf you seem to be missing that one %$%
No worries - I'll add one to the thread when I start the playfield.
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Hey Nino,
Sorry for the OT post, but do you offer reconditioning of pins as a service? I have a Judge Dredd machine in need of some serious cleaning (PF, ramps, wireforms, targets etc) but wouldn't know the first thing about stripping a playfield nor how to clean one without destroying it. I think I would prefer to have it done professionally and your restoration/reconditioning/cleaning skills are first class.
Matthew
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Hey Nino,
Sorry for the OT post, but do you offer reconditioning of pins as a service? I have a Judge Dredd machine in need of some serious cleaning (PF, ramps, wireforms, targets etc) but wouldn't know the first thing about stripping a playfield nor how to clean one without destroying it. I think I would prefer to have it done professionally and your restoration/reconditioning/cleaning skills are first class.
Matthew
No time like the present to learn, take heaps of photos, only remove what you have to and you'll have no probs. It's only nuts and screws, take your time, get out the novus 2 and you'll have the satisfaction of doing it yourself ^^^
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Hey Nino,
Sorry for the OT post, but do you offer reconditioning of pins as a service? I have a Judge Dredd machine in need of some serious cleaning (PF, ramps, wireforms, targets etc) but wouldn't know the first thing about stripping a playfield nor how to clean one without destroying it. I think I would prefer to have it done professionally and your restoration/reconditioning/cleaning skills are first class.
Matthew
I'm a Hobbyist, Matt - First and foremost. As mentioned, if you are 100% not going to do it yourself, then PM me.. A word of warning - I have a crapload of restores (my own) in the pipeline.. :D
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Just a quickie... %.%
I finished the Transformer board early yesterday, and I had taken some quick pictures of the finished board. Maybe it is a little overboard - but I cannot leave it as it was..
I still have to solder in the new power cable and plug. Will do that shortly..
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20727.jpg)
So what do I do with the rust on this machine ?
I'm experimenting with this product ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20729.jpg)
I have no pix yet - but this stuff is UNREAL... It does remove the rust and leave the chrome intact, but it really attacks exposed areas and can leave them with a black tinge..
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What's this? Using my machine as a guinea pig? Nah it's cool mate. Looks like interesting stuff. Where do you get it from?
As long as it only eats rust, not the whole machine hey? :lol
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Wurth, a German company makes the best converter on the market.
Used by many hotrodders and vintage car restorers.
Many panel beaters, smash repair shops get stuff from Wurth. Quite expensive, I think I paid about $90 for 500mls 3 years ago.
Works a treat!
Cheers Angelo
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What's this? Using my machine as a guinea pig? Nah it's cool mate. Looks like interesting stuff. Where do you get it from?
As long as it only eats rust, not the whole machine hey? :lol
I've used it before on rusted lock down bars. It removes the rust very well and it is safe to use. I soaked the worst rusted screws I could find as a test, and pulled them out after 10 minutes, and I could not recognize them - they were that good. I used a cheap paint brush - more along the lines of a touch up brush - and "painted" on the stuff and you could see the area "foam up" and react immediately. Wipe it off with a rag, and I could not believe my eyes. :D
Still - it requires time and patience, but I'm confident that this machine will be rust free when done.
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hate rust, hate rust, hate rust... ^.^ ^.^ ^.^
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Wurth, a German company makes the best converter on the market.
Used by many hotrodders and vintage car restorers.
Many panel beaters, smash repair shops get stuff from Wurth. Quite expensive, I think I paid about $90 for 500mls 3 years ago.
Works a treat!
Cheers Angelo
That's some expensive converter !! In a professional environment - with no expense spared - it would be worth every cent !
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Wurth, a German company makes the best converter on the market.
Used by many hotrodders and vintage car restorers.
Many panel beaters, smash repair shops get stuff from Wurth. Quite expensive, I think I paid about $90 for 500mls 3 years ago.
Works a treat!
Cheers Angelo
Thanks Angelo. Will have to keep an eye out for that one. Pretty expensive stuff - must be good.
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hate rust, hate rust, hate rust... ^.^ ^.^ ^.^
I hate only TWO things - Rust and handling backglasses..
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Wurth, a German company makes the best converter on the market.
Used by many hotrodders and vintage car restorers.
Many panel beaters, smash repair shops get stuff from Wurth. Quite expensive, I think I paid about $90 for 500mls 3 years ago.
Works a treat!
Cheers Angelo
Thanks Angelo. Will have to keep an eye out for that one. Pretty expensive stuff - must be good.
Unfortuantly, 1965 Lincoln Continental sedans don't grow on trees here in Australia, any repairs must be done once and done properly!
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that is really good rust remover but damn it stinks i used it on a couple of shade sail poles it killed it and it never came back i think you would get a tinge maybe from to much applied
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Between changing nappies and looking after the new addition to the family, I've had a bit of time to spend in the garage between visitors !
I've gone BEZERK with the rust product - Ranex, with some amazing results...
Really simple procedure here... Ranex poured into a plastic container, and a small paintbrush.. "Paint" the Ranex on and watch the chemical reaction... The area with white corrosion turns to foam.. Wait 10 minutes and wash it off... GONE... With the RUST - you have to be more aggressive with a wire brush and green scotchbrite... Final clean with windex and then a bot of Brasso...
From this ....
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20712.jpg)
To this ...
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20749.jpg)
Bit of an improvement ???? <.>
The front of the Dorr was simply regrained with Windex and 360 Grit Wet / Dry. There are a few smudges from my fingers on it, but it looks good. The coin entrance plate was also regrained ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20750.jpg)
The Door frame was washed and scrubbed. Straightforward really - used Windex and then sprayed it with an air compressor. I mounted the door frame - using the hardware that was put through the tumbler for 12 hours. Here's a nice shot from outside in the sunshine ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20752.jpg)
All the hardware was removed, dropped in a container with Ranex. Scrubbed and cleaned. Then left in the tumbler... Anything still "dull" was then buffed on my bench grinder with a buff wheel..
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20754.jpg)
View of the front are of the machine, just to show off the lock down bar assembly... Look at the "before" pictures, then look at the results. No plating and anything like that.. Just a bottle of Ranex and some experimentation !
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20755.jpg)
Door is re assembled and placed in the door frame....
First, here what it looked like before I started ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20666.jpg)
Here it is as of today ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20764.jpg)
Front Section coming together nicely.. Everything free of corrosion and rust.. Some of the chrome plating was removed by the rust and corrosion.. Not to mention the process of cleaning it off - But that's a price I was willing to pay..
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20765.jpg)
Tilt Section - Simply regrained with emery Cloth then 120 Grit. The ball assembly was tough to clean, but it turned out ok.. All of this section was covered in corrosion..
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20766.jpg)
Finally - Power Board done... New mains lead installed and the correct fuses installed..Ready to power up and test when I install the plug !
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20767.jpg)
The only part left to do is the Chimes section.. Which was VERY corroded !
:D
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Looking very sweet mate, and you found a new tool to use in your restorations. That rust remover sure does the job. I reckon a few corroded legs could be saved by using this stuff. I'm amazed at how much rust you actually managed to kill!
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I am getting good results from the Ranex Rustbuster as well on my Rocky. Very potent stuff.
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I am getting good results from the Ranex Rustbuster as well on my Rocky. Very potent stuff.
glad to see someone using it as well !
As long as you follow the "Golden Rule" of testing it in an area not seen..first..
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Great product, amazing difference.
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looking very nice indeed. I gave the siderails on my sinbad a sand as well. They were not showing rust but some spots of discoloration (maybe rust was there b4). I did my outside of the coin door as well, and yep they come-up great.
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looking very nice indeed. I gave the siderails on my sinbad a sand as well. They were not showing rust but some spots of discoloration (maybe rust was there b4). I did my outside of the coin door as well, and yep they come-up great.
Small things like this make a huge difference. I'm going to replace all the siderail nails. They look terrible after a regraining..
Update
Great News...
After installing the mains plug - She fires up - Just the transformer board and ALL voltages are present + ~10% without load. VERY PLEASED.
The transformers are SUPER quiet.. No hummmmm at all !
Now I'm moving on to the head..
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Update
The transformers are SUPER quiet.. No hummmmm at all !
The transformer in my Flash is mounted in the headbox. Its humm is quite noticeable when everything is quiet. Is this a williams thing, or do transformers develop humms?
lol
Cant hear my gottliebs humm at all.
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Update
The transformers are SUPER quiet.. No hummmmm at all !
The transformer in my Flash is mounted in the headbox. Its humm is quite noticeable when everything is quiet. Is this a williams thing, or do transformers develop humms?
lol
Cant hear my gottliebs humm at all.
It can be a number of factors. Poor quality Transformer, poor line voltage and sometimes some DC voltage on the line.
Sometimes - You can eliminate humm simply by tightening the nuts on the transformer. Do this only with the machine off and the line cord out of the wall socket..
You are correct with the statement that Gottliebs are quieter than Williams. I've noticed that too.
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looking very nice indeed. I gave the siderails on my sinbad a sand as well. They were not showing rust but some spots of discoloration (maybe rust was there b4). I did my outside of the coin door as well, and yep they come-up great.
Small things like this make a huge difference. I'm going to replace all the siderail nails. They look terrible after a regraining..
Update
Great News...
After installing the mains plug - She fires up - Just the transformer board and ALL voltages are present + ~10% without load. VERY PLEASED.
The transformers are SUPER quiet.. No hummmmm at all !
Now I'm moving on to the head..
Great to hear Nino. Looking forward to the next update.
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Update
The transformers are SUPER quiet.. No hummmmm at all !
The transformer in my Flash is mounted in the headbox. Its humm is quite noticeable when everything is quiet. Is this a williams thing, or do transformers develop humms?
lol
Cant hear my gottliebs humm at all.
I dont notice the humm when I have the stereo on (just love playin pinball to loud music), and flash has that escalating sound feature (which I do like)
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But yep will check those nuts.
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It can be a number of factors. Poor quality Transformer, poor line voltage and sometimes some DC voltage on the line.
Sometimes - You can eliminate humm simply by tightening the nuts on the transformer. Do this only with the machine off and the line cord out of the wall socket..
You are correct with the statement that Gottliebs are quieter than Williams. I've noticed that too.
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Here's a an update on the Sinbad Head, which I thought was going to be easy, but I found a world of pain with this part of the restore..Read on...
Before Pictures
Nothing too exciting, just dirt, corrosion and rust.. Lots of rust, but everything was structurally ok. Paint is in great condition, and there is no moisture in the wood or anything abnormal...yet...
Score display and Credit Display missing - anyone have spares lying around - PM me..
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20185.jpg)
Worst rust spot on the entire game.. Luckily - never seen... <.>
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20186.jpg)
Shock, Horror - No boards %.% That's how it was bought, and there's a PI -X4 going in this machine later on.. More rust, but all the parts are intact ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20189.jpg)
Hmmm.. That looks nasty... Bit of corrosion for you ? Gets worse !
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20190.jpg)
GROSS !!!!
WTF is this crap ? The corrosion has attacked the GI Braid and it literally is falling off. The staples are completely rusted ! ^.^
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20207.jpg)
More pictures ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20197.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20198.jpg)
After Pictures
After all the main parts were stripped, I placed all the metal parts in a container 1/4 full of Ranex and let it soak for a few hours. Most of the screws were so badly rusted, I just threw them out. While that was happening, I quickly cleaned the cabinet with, you guessed it, NIFTI :D
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20209.jpg)
I removed the metal parts and polished them further on the buffing wheel, or with a 000 Steel Wool and Brasso. Spend a lazy afternoon and then reassemble... I'm surprised it come up this good.. %.%
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20213.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20212.jpg)
Notice the cardboard cards ? I cleaned and then Laminated then into one sheet. Then used a staple gun to mount them on the right hand side... I used my laminator that I have at home... It looks like this after passing it through the laminator...
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20210.jpg)
Then I just trim the cards and staple them where they originally belong.
Nice paintwork on this game. The picture (below right) is just a "jab" at those that keep calling me "anal" with my restores... I was thinking of you guys while buffing the lock and brushing the original keys @.@... But I enjoy this level of detail.
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20214.jpg) (http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20218.jpg)
Rear Panels
These were bloody UGLY and tear AGES to clean.. Rusted and corroded.. I used my bench grinder with a wire wheel and went nuts. Then I used an old paint brush with Ranex and went to work with steel wool. Finally, a quick shime with Brasso and it looks fine..
LHS Picture, LHS panel was exactly as they were. LHS Picture, RHS panel was after Wire brushing
RHS Picture is both panels after Ranex and polishing
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20219.jpg) (http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20229.jpg)
Bolted on to the rear of the Head...
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20230.jpg)
Close up of the finished Head ( without the light board)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20232.jpg)
PBR Order arrived today !!!!!! ^^^ ^^^
Installed the Shooter Rod, Lock and a few other parts.. Head is mounted and here's the last picture !
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20231.jpg)
Oops.. Forgot this one @.@ - This is the Transformer board with the Laminated cards.. Also the tilt board is installed.
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20233.jpg)
Till next time ^^^
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Looking good Nino, let me know when you plan to move to Adelaide
Pinball Resource is great to deal with. Recently placed my first order and sent payment then realised I forgot to include a couple of things. They were happy to include these and will send me an invoice with my goods for the extras ordered.
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Looking very nice Nino - mightily impressive. How good does the head look? ^^^
For there to be that much rust, it must have been stored in a damp environment don't you think?
That Ranex looks like a marvellous product!
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Looking good Nino, let me know when you plan to move to Adelaide
Pinball Resource is great to deal with. Recently placed my first order and sent payment then realised I forgot to include a couple of things. They were happy to include these and will send me an invoice with my goods for the extras ordered.
This game is destined for a Gamesroom in Adelaide !
PBR are great for game specific parts.. RTBB now stock some of the older stuff, which is a great help
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Looking very nice Nino - mightily impressive. How good does the head look? ^^^
For there to be that much rust, it must have been stored in a damp environment don't you think?
That Ranex looks like a marvellous product!
Some more than others... The playfields on all the games I've bought from this container were all EXCELLENT.. Backglasses were VERY GOOD.. Everything else can be restored.. Just need time and patience...
Yes - the storage would have been a damp place, but no water damage to any of the games..
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No pictures this update as the camera battery is dead !
Things done today ;
Siderail Nails removed, and new ones installed
Chime unit re assembled with new coil sleeves
New coil insert installed
Lightbox was stripped and sanded down. I painted the front white, as there was a little "curling" from the moisture, and it will look bettwr. I removed the "green" GI braid and removed all the sockets and ordered new ones from Greg. I've sanded the reverse side with emery paper, and I might seal it tomorrow.. That has been put aside...
GREAT NEWS...(pix will follow)
Contact (Mylar) removed without a spec of paint lifting, and a really beautiful playfield was hidden for many years !!! I'm really pleased as now all the new playfield parts will SHINE with a backdrop of a polished, colorful and vibrant playfield..
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Really good news mate. Can't wait to see pics of the playfield with all the new plastics installed.
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As explained earlier, I had plenty of success removing the contact (mylar) from the playfield. The playfield was fine with the contact "as is", but it is always worth examining whether the playfield and the machine would benefit from the removal - because underneath the dull contact, could be a really nice playfield - protected all these years ! I approach this decision by testing a section that has already. You can also look at the artwork through the mylar and if it looks like there are fine "cracks" then this can influence the decision. Mylar (in its current form) did not exist in 1970's.. Operators used contact - Thinner and the adhesive is easily warmed up with a hair dryer...
Before Pictures
Nice playfield "as is".. Would be just fine with the mylar intact. But the temptation of a perfect playfield under that mylar was too much !!
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20245.jpg) (http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20269.jpg)
Contact Removal
After testing in a corner of the playfield - it was "All Systems Go".. Armed with a Hair Dryer and a set of needle nose pliers, I warmed up the mylar ahead of where I was lifting it and gentle pulled the contact in an "upwards" direction - small sections at a time. Avoid heat directly on the playfield where the contact has been removed.. Watch for any paint lift.. Thankfully, not a speck for me - This time :D
The Key to contact / Mylar removal is patience
Here's some pictures ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20270.jpg) (http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20271.jpg)
Upper Playfield complete, working down to the flippers..
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20272.jpg)
Contact removed, and now the adhesive residue remains.. This was easily removed with Shellite (Naptha) from Bunnings, and a rag. Playfield is a bit dull beforehand, but the colors are vibrant.
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20273.jpg) (http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20274.jpg)
After removing all the residue with Shellite. I removed the other dirt with Novus 3, and then Novus 2. I noticed that the mylar was installed a few years after the game was operated and there is some evidence of ball swirtl in the Yellow areas...
Here are two pictures after the Novus 2 and a bit of polishing are done. No waxing yet, as I need to work on the underside of the playfield. I'm VERY pleased with the results ^^^
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20291.jpg) (http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20292.jpg)
Next update - The underside of the playfield !
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Woo hoo! #*# How sweet it is. I can't wait to have a game on that. She's going to play nice and fast don't you think?
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Nothing like a Mylar free PF. as much as i hate the stuff, you have to be glad it was once put on. it has preserved many a PF through operator days. Now us collectors get hold of the games and we have a chance of a pristine PF. Good thing is that we will look after it from now on and ensure no wear.
Nino - i notice no marks from the ball shooter lane and over the PF arch - has this been cleaned already or has the game had very little play?
If cleaned - its come up a treat - normally the dirt is so ingrained here that a sand back is required
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Woo hoo! #*# How sweet it is. I can't wait to have a game on that. She's going to play nice and fast don't you think?
I restored a Genie with contact intact... Collectors always claim that Genie is sloooooooow, and plods along. Thats because they don't spent the extra time and cash installing flipper kits / flipper buttons....etc...
Moral of the story - The games were FAST when they were released - So spend the $$ and bring that speed back !!
This game will be fast as it is having the "full treatment", as described above - and it will have a fast waxed playfield..
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Nothing like a Mylar free PF. as much as i hate the stuff, you have to be glad it was once put on. it has preserved many a PF through operator days. Now us collectors get hold of the games and we have a chance of a pristine PF. Good thing is that we will look after it from now on and ensure no wear.
Nino - i notice no marks from the ball shooter lane and over the PF arch - has this been cleaned already or has the game had very little play?
If cleaned - its come up a treat - normally the dirt is so ingrained here that a sand back is required
Ball arch area was surprisingly in great condition. Basically, I just cleaned them with Shelleite / Novus 3.. The ball shooter lane was gently sanded with 320 and a "sawn off" billiard cue in the last pictures
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Woo hoo! #*# How sweet it is. I can't wait to have a game on that. She's going to play nice and fast don't you think?
Moral of the story - The games were FAST when they were released - So spend the $$ and bring that speed back !!
This game will be fast as it is having the "full treatment", as described above - and it will have a fast waxed playfield..
I left the mylar on my Sinbad, just trimmed some daggy bits off. Its fast enough as is, and I wax it so in 50 years it should still be a great PF. I will admit they look better with mylar off.
:)
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great read! love your work nino. some huge hours and work in this one, hope you charge the guy accordingly!
did i miss where ranex is sold?
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great read! love your work nino. some huge hours and work in this one, hope you charge the guy accordingly!
did i miss where ranex is sold?
Stinging him for every cent !! %.%
Ranex Rustbuster is sold at Bunnings.. Take care using it.
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Stinging him for every cent !! %.%
Yeah, my arse hurts and the machine is not even finished yet. :lol
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Stinging him for every cent !! %.%
Yeah, my arse hurts and the machine is not even finished yet. :lol
Awesome job Nino. The lucky owner will have a very very nice machine. Everytime I read one of your resto's it plants that evil thought into my head...just one more machine...get another project....one more wont hurt!
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Stinging him for every cent !! %.%
Yeah, my arse hurts and the machine is not even finished yet. :lol
Another part of your anatomy may hurt after you see and play the finished product %.%
This game is close to the standard of the Genie I did last year.. It will be an exceptional System one game...
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Stinging him for every cent !! %.%
Yeah, my arse hurts and the machine is not even finished yet. :lol
Awesome job Nino. The lucky owner will have a very very nice machine. Everytime I read one of your resto's it plants that evil thought into my head...just one more machine...get another project....one more wont hurt!
It never "Hurts"... Well, it does a little bit.. #@#
Find an unloved Pinball and bring it back to life !!
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Playfield Update - underside
A huge amount of work needs to be done to the underside of the playfield. There is more corrosion than rust, and it needs to be tidied up a little ! The decision was made to replace every light socket in the game - playfield AND head. Thankfully, Greg had all the original Gottlieb parts to complete this task. The original sockets would be intermittant and the job of cleaning them would be too time consuming and might not address the issues.
Stripped Playfield
All assemblies removed to be rebuilt. Notice the globe holders - all were corroded and in some cases, the globes were "rusted shut" in the sockets ! Everything under here will be cleaned or replaced. Most of the parts have been cleaned and placed in the tumbler.
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20296.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20297.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20298.jpg)
Commence Rebuilding
I'm re assembling in sections. The parts have had the corrosion attended to, cleaned and polished. The globe sockets are being replaced as I progress through the lower section, working my way to the top.
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20320.jpg)
Lower section with Flipper assemblies installed ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20319.jpg)
Flipper Bases
Here's what they looked like when I removed them.. One of the flipper shafts was rusted and I had to tap it out of the assembly with a hammer !
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20293.jpg)
After a heap of work with my favorite new chemical, they came up great. New parts are installed from the rebuild kits from PBR.
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20305.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20306.jpg)
More to come shortly..
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Fantastic work!. I am in awe....
Question for you Nino, with the globe holders which were rusted in...Did you have difficulty in removing them or snapping screws
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One word - WOW!
I don't think I can hold out much longer...
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Fantastic work!. I am in awe....
Question for you Nino, with the globe holders which were rusted in...Did you have difficulty in removing them or snapping screws
The globes were rusted into the globe holders.. So I don't even try to remove them.
All the screws were removed easily from the holders to the playfield.
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Wow those flipper bases look like new ^^^
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Note to self - must get some of that Ranex Rustbuster :D
Top work Nino, you really do go the extra yard ^^^
cheers
Ian
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Massive thanks to "Humpalot" who helped out with 2 displays.. #*#
The game has all the parts except the legs.. At this point we are looking at rechroming a set from Mark, or buying a new set from PBR.
Update tonight !
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Yes -thanks to humpalot. Those displays were proving hard to find but you came through for us. #*#
Looking forward to the next update.
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Playfield Update
The task of completing the underside of the playfield is almost done. The bumper bodies have to be installed and the lamp sockets soldered into place to be able to install the bumper coil assemblies. Before doing that, the large Target assembly has to be installed. If it is done in the wrong order, then it will be difficult to screw in the drop target switches mounted on the assembly.
Here's a progress picture of the underside before installing the large target bank, and a picture of the topside of the playfield after 3 coats of Meguiars Paste Wax.
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20331.jpg) (http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20333.jpg)
The relays have also been cleaned and rebuilt. No corrosion and the contacts have been cleaned;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20332.jpg)
Three coats of Wax - It looks a bit dull due to the photo. It is very nice "up close". Notice the spot targets have not been replaced. There's a six week wait from PBR from the time of the order. So the old ones are cleaned as a temporary measure so that the game can be completed.
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20334.jpg)
The smaller target bank is installed - with new targets. Bumper body etc are new. All the contact switches are individually cleaned and gapped - metal forms are tumbled. The playfield is an EASY 9/10.. All the art is intact, no wear and no fade..
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20335.jpg)
Large Target Bank
This was a bit of a challenge due to the size of the parts. It would be hard to soak the larger section to remove the corrosion. It took a bit of time to complete, but it was worth it. I ended up using an ice cream container and a toothbrush.. I then used a wire brush on my bench grinder. Here's what I started with ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20336.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20339.jpg)
After a bit of elbow grease, the assembly was coming together nicely ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20340.jpg)
Finished product with new targets installed ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20341.jpg)
I'll be fitting the assembly and finally the bumper coil assemblies tonight and the saga that was the underside of the playfield is done...
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Sweet as! ^^^
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Sweet as! ^^^
I would be one happy man if i was you Creech ! *%*
Nice work Nino...
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I would be one happy man if i was you Creech ! *%*
That's an understatement!
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Finally the nightmare of removing rust and corrosion are O V E R... and I can finally spend some time on the top of the playfield. Just about EVERYTHING is new. If it is not - Then it has been cleaned and polished. Here are some progress pictures...
Note the playfield plastics still have the protective film on them..
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20001.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20002.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20003.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20004.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20005.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20006.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20007.jpg)
For those of you with a keen eye - Yes the spot targets look crap. Creech is organizing a NOS set as we speak..
There's still plenty left to do - Like repin EVERY connector for the PI-X4 and re fitting the light panel for the head...
But it now looks good, so there's a major milestone achieved...
:D
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Holy moly. I can't believe what you've done with it. Can't wait to get it home.
I'm still waiting on a reply from John Robertson about the bullseye targets by the way.
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Awesome job. I played that game at expo 2 years ago in pinbrawl and fell in love with it. That is a fine example.
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Beautiful ^^^
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*%* amazing work nino...
looks like a new machine #*#
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The Light at the end of the tunnel is definitely visible now... BIG UPDATE .... Lots of pictures because I cannot be stuffed typing <.>
Backbox
The light panel which holds the lights and displays was a mess and had to be stripped. While it was stripped of all parts, I sanded the back section with emery cloth, and painted the front white. Only a couple of coats, but it will make the illumination of the backglass even and more pronounced.. All the light sockets and display standoffs were replaced with new (Thanks Greg).. Back to the reverse side - the ground braind was corroded and had a green tinge to it. I soaked it in Ranex for 15 minutes and it came up as good as new.. So I reused it. I stapled the ground braid with a furniture staple gun - just a mechanical gun - nothing fancy.
Here's the front ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20020.jpg)
The rear section with the new sockets;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20021.jpg)
The rear section with the wiring installed ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20023.jpg)
Pascal PI-X4 Board installation
"My hands are F%^king killing me".... ^.^
Even pin in every connector that connects to the Pascal Board has been replaced. That means that the machine will be super reliable. These are times when you REALLY need the good quality crimpers - as they make life a lot easier.. This picture was taken after the game was working 100 % with all the connectors done and all voltages checked... Note I have a habit of writing the date on the connectors..
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20043.jpg)
POWER UP
This was done in a phased approach..
First test the input voltages.. ok
Insert J2 into the Pascal board - Power up - Great - it works
Insert the backbox connectors to test GI - Worked
Install the playfield, connect the power (GI / Coil) - Worked
Test all the coils AGAIN
So now insert all connectors - power up the machine and she works !!! I just had to change the Game from it's factory config of "Genie", to "Sinbad"...
So after all this work - I know the game is almost done... Here's some pictures from Today's effort..
Testing the GI and player 1 display - Scary stuff - Three displays out, but I re charged the three that were not working and they are fine.. Thanks to Mick (Humpalot), for the ONLY displays that worked on first power on..
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20032.jpg)
No Flash - All the lamp sockets are new - so they all work 100%..
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20033.jpg)
After a few games - there's My High Score.... Yes the game works and I played a few games tonight !
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20036.jpg)
Playfield Shots
I had a few issues with the light sockets for the bonus count... The sockets were really poor and I had to soak them in ranex and gently sand them, but the earth strap was very poor. I ended up with a length if wire to each socket and then to the ground point and they all work fine. There's a few niggling problems I will have to deal with, but the game is playable;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20034.jpg) (http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20039.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20035.jpg)
With Flash..
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20041.jpg)
Without flash...
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20042.jpg)
What a great game to play - brought back a flood of memories...
Just a few things to go and it will be ready...
:D
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All I can say is SUPERB!
How do you re-charge displays? First time I've heard of that being done.
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Man, that is niiiiiiiiicccccccceeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nice work Nino *%*
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Once again, awesome job Nino. The gold-class standard of restorations...
Each time I see one of your jobs it inspires me to take on another project and go that next step... ^^^
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Once again, awesome job Nino. The gold-class standard of restorations...
Each time I see one of your jobs it inspires me to take on another project and go that next step... ^^^
It is a passion of mine that I hope inspires other that think they "can't do it"... It CAN be done, and I get a real "kick" out of seeing other collectors start out with their first restoration... I do appreciate the kind words on my resto threads - it inspires me to find another 1% improvement - But keep in mind, I STILL want to learn from others, and that was one of the reasons for the site - to SHARE the knowledge.
It is also a privilege to work on Pinball machines - in fact - I don't see it as "work" !!
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Steve from PBR is making a set of Spot Targets for the game, as there is a six week wait for the individual plastic target itself. A new set of shiny legs will compliment this machine..
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Bloody nice Sinbad there, prob none better in Australia.
Enjoy it!
:)
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Nino, two words. SHIT HOT. That looks fantastic. Where do you buy that rust product? Also how do you clean rust of the playfield crome parts, like the small guides etc?
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I played a few games on it the other day
very bloody nice
just like my Rocky
thanks Nino
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Nino, two words. SHIT HOT. That looks fantastic. Where do you buy that rust product? Also how do you clean rust of the playfield crome parts, like the small guides etc?
Ranex Rustbuster is available at bunnings - they have it in different quantities - I usually buy the larger size..
The small metal guides are initially cleaned with windex or Nifti - then I drop them in the tumbler for 4 hours.
Thanks for the kind words.. %.%
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Nino, two words. SHIT HOT. That looks fantastic. Where do you buy that rust product? Also how do you clean rust of the playfield crome parts, like the small guides etc?
Ranex Rustbuster is available at bunnings - they have it in different quantities - I usually buy the larger size..
The small metal guides are initially cleaned with windex or Nifti - then I drop them in the tumbler for 4 hours.
Thanks for the kind words.. %.%
Stupid question, what is a tumbler, how much are they?
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Nino, two words. SHIT HOT. That looks fantastic. Where do you buy that rust product? Also how do you clean rust of the playfield crome parts, like the small guides etc?
Ranex Rustbuster is available at bunnings - they have it in different quantities - I usually buy the larger size..
The small metal guides are initially cleaned with windex or Nifti - then I drop them in the tumbler for 4 hours.
Thanks for the kind words.. %.%
A tumbler is a tool I use to polish my nuts while I drink Beer.. %.%
A tumbler is a tool used to polish metal parts. You need media (usually corncob) and cleaning media (I use Flitz).. Throw your cleaned metal parts in the tumber and switch it on for four hours. When you return, the parts look as new as the day you bought them..
I use my tumbler on every machine I work on..
Stupid question, what is a tumbler, how much are they?
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Backglass
The Backglass is good for its age, but there is some cracking in the backlit areas. It did clean up OK, but, the decision has been made to have our resident Backglass Restorer to weave his magic. The new owner (Creech) is a fussy Collector, and due to the fact that everything around the backglass has come up so well, he wants the BG to be of the same standard. So I'm boxing up the glass this weekend and it will be sent ASAP.
Notice the cracking in the RED sections
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20138.jpg)
Legs
The decision was made to buy NEW LEGS from Pinball Resource. Usually, this is cost prohibitive - But we made a "group" order and it came out cheaper. The legs were sent UPS, so they were here in four days.. I was totally impressed with the quality of the legs.. They are worth every cent, and just add that "final touch" to the machine..
Here are some pictures of the Legs ;
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20143.jpg) (http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20136.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20137.jpg)
Playfield
The only item left is the two spot targets. I will have to rivet the new faces on to the assemblies. The Apron is in VERY good condition, other than the rust that is UNDER the paint where the sticker once was.. The Apron will be sent to Gavin as well..
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20141.jpg)
(http://Cabinet)
All done ! As mentioned, the Glass and Apron needs to be done as well as the spot targets. Apart from that, the machine plays like new !
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20139.jpg)
The infamous garage is in the background.. in case you didn't notice !!!
Gavin might have a separate thread on the Apron and Backglass restoration..
Thanks to Dean Morgan for the backglass mounts !!
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Nino nice work! u lucky bugga creech.
Wouldnt mind a shed with project pins lined-up either Nino.
:)
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Nino nice work! u lucky bugga creech.
Wouldnt mind a shed with project pins lined-up either Nino.
:)
The other side of the garage has TWO rows... Yes - I love collecting project pins.. *)*
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Awesome work on this Sinbad Nino!
I have a Charlies Angels here to do soon, and there is a fair bit of rust on the metal parts on this one (same container as the Sinbad).
I was going to just use the tumbler, but I think I will use the rust remover first, then tumbler to polish.
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Awesome work on this Sinbad Nino!
I have a Charlies Angels here to do soon, and there is a fair bit of rust on the metal parts on this one (same container as the Sinbad).
I was going to just use the tumbler, but I think I will use the rust remover first, then tumbler to polish.
Thanks mate ^^^
The rust removal process was a learning curve, but as long as it saves a pinball from being parted out, I'm happy.
Gavin has the Apron and Backlass, so I hope he will have a thread soon !
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Awesome work on this Sinbad Nino!
I have a Charlies Angels here to do soon, and there is a fair bit of rust on the metal parts on this one (same container as the Sinbad).
I was going to just use the tumbler, but I think I will use the rust remover first, then tumbler to polish.
Thanks mate ^^^
The rust removal process was a learning curve, but as long as it saves a pinball from being parted out, I'm happy.
Gavin has the Apron and Backlass, so I hope he will have a thread soon !
This is one of the things I like the most about this forum... the willingness to share ideas that save time, or that will help solve a problem...
Thanks again Nino, you've saved me from working this out the hard way!
Looking forward to the Apron / Backglass thread Gav...
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Never would I have thought that I would have to go searching for the Sinbad Restore thread - it was tucked away on the SEVENTH page !
Well Gavin did an exceptional job on the apron, and tonight I installed it. It REALLY sets off the machine. Honestly, the playfield looks as good as it did the day it rolled off the production line. I didn't get too much time to play around and completely finish the game, but I did replace the White Target's springs, as it was not dropping correctly. Now it is 100%.
Now I guess it just needs to be tested and sent to its new owner #*#
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20220.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20221.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20223.jpg)
99.9% completed !
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Looking good mate. It looks like it was worth the wait. Now to hunt down a back glass.
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Looking good mate. It looks like it was worth the wait. Now to hunt down a back glass.
The final piece of the puzzle is the backglass. One will turn up, just a matter of time !
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Looking good mate. It looks like it was worth the wait. Now to hunt down a back glass.
One has turned up...just sent you a PM...very nice glass it is
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Looking good mate. It looks like it was worth the wait. Now to hunt down a back glass.
One has turned up...just sent you a PM...very nice glass it is
$#$ $#$ $#$ $#$ $#$ $#$ $#$ $#$
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YEE HA! @@* @@* @@* I love this place. Members helping each other out. That's what it's all about. Thanks Dean - oops I mean the pinballist Formerly known as Dean Morgan.
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Looking good mate. It looks like it was worth the wait. Now to hunt down a back glass.
One has turned up...just sent you a PM...very nice glass it is
And now it's mine. $#$
Thanks again Dean!
I've attached a pic.
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very nice BG, even the blue in the score windows is good.
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What a transfermation this machine has made.
I love seeing it when pins like this get this level of restore.
This would surely now be amoungst the best Sinbads around..
Well Done #*#
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Another classic Gordon Morison backglass - man this guy was good.
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Finally - With the help of Dean Morgan (The artist formally known as...), The backglass was picked up yesterday and installed this morning. The game is basically finished, but it will be tested for the next week or so to make sure everything is 110% !
Here are the finished pictures !!
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20079.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20080.jpg)
(http://www.aussiepinball.com/strangeways/restores/Sinbad/Picture%20081.jpg)
$#$ $#$ $#$
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Geez thats a nice backglass *%* Machine looks great Nino and with the effort you put into your machines i have no doupt it will be 110% perfect ^^^
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where do you line up to buy one of your machines !!!
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Nino you told me you picked up a nice bg but man that is gorgeous !
Finishes off the machine quite nicely ... ^^^
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where do you line up to buy one of your machines !!!
Cam i think if Nino had a lineup to get hold of one of his pins it would probably reach your front door so your in the right spot %.%
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Good on ya, I'II look for a seat then ^&(
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Is that a CV sitting bolt upright against Nino's wall?? NICE *%*
Thats when you know you have a lot of pins, when a CV is sitting waiting for the Nino restore #*#
When Pins die they dream of being reincarnated in Nino's place :lol
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Is that a CV sitting bolt upright against Nino's wall?? NICE *%*
Thats when you know you have a lot of pins, when a CV is sitting waiting for the Nino restore #*#
When Pins die they dream of being reincarnated in Nino's place :lol
That's my prized CV. That is "somewhere" in the queue - But I have to do two EMs before starting the CV. Resto threads after Galaxy is done.
CV will be getting the full treatment.
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Sinbad arrives in the Hunter Valley! $#$ $#$ @@* #*# :D
After a great effort from Tony and Gavin (Thanks heaps!)
Sinbad has arrived back at the new home. Now that I have seen (in person) all Strangeways's skilled handywork!
It is nothing short of absolutely amazing!
Looks, sounds and plays wonferfully. I have to stop playing now because the kids need to go to bed. Just arrived back in Bolwarra an hour ago ex Sydney. (Picked it up from Hills Parcel Direct at Smithfield yesterday) The guys there were very professional and helpful. The machine was well packed, protected and transported.
I havent had a chance to clean it up and level it etc but it looks brilliant. Will do this over the weekend.
Many thanks to all and I must say we have a great forum when people really go the extra mile to help each other and take this personally. As such, I look forward to returning the favour when the opportunity arises.
Cheers!
J.D.
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I'm glad it has found it's new home. I hope you enjoy the machine as much as I did restoring it.
Thanks for the kind words ^^^
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Next chalenge is to beat that high score without letting the ball go between the flippers!
Trickly little "old" bugger!
J.D.
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Sinbad arrives in the Hunter Valley! $#$ $#$ @@* #*# :D
After a great effort from Tony and Gavin (Thanks heaps!)
Sinbad has arrived back at the new home. Now that I have seen (in person) all Strangeways's skilled handywork!
It is nothing short of absolutely amazing!
Looks, sounds and plays wonferfully. I have to stop playing now because the kids need to go to bed. Just arrived back in Bolwarra an hour ago ex Sydney. (Picked it up from Hills Parcel Direct at Smithfield yesterday) The guys there were very professional and helpful. The machine was well packed, protected and transported.
I havent had a chance to clean it up and level it etc but it looks brilliant. Will do this over the weekend.
Many thanks to all and I must say we have a great forum when people really go the extra mile to help each other and take this personally. As such, I look forward to returning the favour when the opportunity arises.
Cheers!
J.D.
Looks great JD I'l be around again soon.
Steve.
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Steve,
You are always welcome!
Perhaps you have some tips on the tricky double flippers!
Got to have a go at that high score (and do better than I did last week againt you) and beat it!
J.D.
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Good on you John,
Does it look nice next to Jungle Queen!
Well done mate and enjoy ^^^
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Not yet. I am restoring / tidying up my Jungle Queen at the moment.
Will take a photo when complete and together Tony.
My plan is to sell Jungle Queen and buy a Gottlieb surfer next.
J.D.
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J.D your machine has been given a:
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Yes you scored a 5 Yabbie Rating for this machine!
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Great to hear you have the machine safe and sound JD. It was great dealing with you. Good luck with it. It will look great in your gamesroom.
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Great to hear you have the machine safe and sound JD. It was great dealing with you. Good luck with it. It will look great in your gamesroom.
It does look great in the gamesroom. I called in last sunday & had a game or 3 on the Sinbad, it is one nice machine. It's right up there with the resto'd Gorgar & Playboy that it sits next to. Thats a great collection you have JD.
I look forward to some more games on the Jungle Queen when its back together, it's coming along nice as well.
cheers Steve.
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You are always welcome!
I have got to get my act together with the home brew keg and taps so I can save a bit and buy some more pinballs!
That will top off the yabbies on the BBQ in the months to come! Home grown yabbies and home made beer! $&& #@!
J.D. $&& $&&
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You are always welcome!
I have got to get my act together with the home brew keg and taps so I can save a bit and buy some more pinballs!
That will top off the yabbies on the BBQ in the months to come! Home grown yabbies and home made beer! $&& #@!
J.D. $&& $&&
first you tease us with BBQ yabbies, now its homemade beer but..............when!!
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You are always welcome!
I have got to get my act together with the home brew keg and taps so I can save a bit and buy some more pinballs!
That will top off the yabbies on the BBQ in the months to come! Home grown yabbies and home made beer! $&& #@!
J.D. $&& $&&
first you tease us with BBQ yabbies, now its homemade beer but..............when!!
Patience is a vurtue!
J.D.