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Title: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 20, 2013, 09:22:20 PM
Hi Guys, thought I’d share some pics of the Wms Stellar Wars playfield I’m currently working on.

This isn’t mine, it belongs to AP member ‘howzat’ (Ian). (My own Stellar Wars resto is quite a way off as yet). Ian has asked me to do the pf and backglass for his own SW. His cab is in pretty good nick so it won’t be getting resprayed, but everything else will be tidied up as needed; ie coin door cleaned and regrained etc.

As can be seen in the before pics, it doesn’t look to bad, it was mylared but had a LOT of loose / sunken inserts that needed attention. It had minimal wear that needed to be repainted/touched up.. just around some of the inserts and near the outhole where someone had stuck some vinyl over the wear there.
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 20, 2013, 09:24:16 PM
More pics.. showing some of the wear n tear to be attended to.
Lots of ball swirl and fine cracking, especially above the return lanes where there was no mylar.
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 20, 2013, 09:26:50 PM
Pf being disassembled and mylar removed.

Some paint came off with the mylar as per usual, despite me being VERY careful, and taking several hours to do it. The worst part was around the bonus inserts but at least its all one solid colour so shouldn’t be too much of a problem to rectify (I hope!!)

Most of this was unavoidable due to the paint being loose underneath the mylar, as was the area below the flippers (3rd pic) when the.. what I guess was some kind of red vinyl was removed (stuck straight over worn paint and text).

As mentioned, they mylar took several hours to remove, and the glue residue took probably another two hours to remove. I used Prepsol (wax & grease remover) bought from SuperCheap Auto for this. Prepsol works better than anything else I’ve tried in the past for this, I did try methylated spirits on his pf at one point (picked up the wrong bottle by accident) lol but the methylated spirits would hardly touch it.
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 20, 2013, 09:29:35 PM
Ok. After the glue removal I was onto the touchup work.
 
First bit I tackled was the area to the right of the far left bumper where the old mylar pulled paint off. 1st pic shows the end results (see previous post for the ‘before’ pic). Waterbased acrylics were used for this section. There was still a bit of fine tuning to be done when I took this pic. This was done from a pic taken of my own Stellar Wars pf for a reference.
 
Next I decided to move on to the flipper/bonus insert areas. First thing I did was to sand the entire area with 400 grit sandpaper, which made this area look pretty bad (they always look worse before they can look good again)  :lol

Next I redid the red, followed by the black. I did these in several coats (in automotive acrylic), block sanding (using 400 grit wet&dry and Windex) between coats after the paint had dried to level it out, which meant a lot of remasking after sanding for painting the next coat(s). Doing this helps to fill the imperfections in the surface, filling them with colour rather than trying to fill them with spot putty/primer filler etc.

I did the same for the natural wood coloured area as well using automotive acrylic clear.
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 20, 2013, 09:31:53 PM
Next I created a waterslide decal for the missing text below the flippers, from an image from my own stellar (1st pic pf of my own game, YES I know my OWN SW is in desparate need of a pf resto).  &^& This was printed onto laser printer waterslide decal paper and cut out and applied to the pf.
 
2nd pic the decal ready to be cut out.

In the 3rd pic the decal had been clearcoated and sanded back ready for another coat.
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 20, 2013, 09:33:26 PM
Next job was to flatten, reinsert and level the inserts in this area. To do this for the inserts with text, I used a trick that I used on my KISS pf resto.. spray them with acrylic clearcoat while out of the pf, let them dry, sand them on a piece of wet/dry paper placed on a flat surface, then reclear and repeat until the insert is flat.. takes a lot of time to do but it works well for me doing several at a time. It wasn’t necessary to do this to all of the inserts, mainly the larger ones needed this.

Basically I start with 600 or 800 grit wet/dry paper and windex for the sanding, when the insert is flat I’ll go to 1200 grit and then finish up with 1500 grit and reglue them into the pf. Usually I’ll polish them with Novus2 but I’m not doing that here since I’m clearcoating this entire area when I’m done.
 
In these pics, the clearcoat is being done 2nd pic the end result.. and where I’m up to at this point as of posting this. When this has dried I’ll block sand it out so its nice n level and polish it up with Novus.

Btw this pf will be fully mylared when I’m done as are all of my pf restores.
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Boots on January 20, 2013, 09:42:06 PM
nice work
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Strangeways on January 20, 2013, 10:08:34 PM

It is a TON of work, even to get this far. It needs a lot of time and patience. The rewards are always worth it. It is coming along nicely, Mitch. The black areas can sometimes look terrible with ball swirl, as with normal ball swirl, the playfield is a different color with black dirt in the cracks. Black background with white ball swirl is the opposite !
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: goodolddays on January 21, 2013, 04:13:03 PM
Looking great so far Mitch . What sort of clear are you using and how do you apply it ?? (ie compressor/spray gun or ??)
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: pinnies4me on January 21, 2013, 08:19:57 PM


Coming along nicely Mitch!! I really wish I had the nerve (and skill) for playfield restoration.

Well done!  ^^^
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 21, 2013, 10:36:24 PM
Cheers guys

Today I did some more insert work, removed all of the red ‘stellar wars’ inserts, flattened them and reinstalled them (no pics as yet of this)

The other thing I did which I got some pics of was to remove the arrow shaped inserts as they were ALL loose and bowed!! You can see this in the 2nd and 3rd pics.
Most of the inserts i’ve done so far I didn’t have to use any heat to remove them!!
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 21, 2013, 10:39:05 PM
Some more pics..

For these I did the usual trick of sanding them to get them flat, but first I needed to scan them to recreate the text later on.
 
Next I sanded them, first with 320 grit wet&dry and windex, followed by 400 grit and finally 800 grit, all the time being careful to hang onto them by the ends so as not to push any weight in the middle if the insert, thus getting them nice n flat.

2nd pic shows the flattened inserts ready to receive their decals for the text.

3rd pic the end result. Again I used waterslide decal paper, once applied I allowed them a few hours to dry then I gave them a quick coat of acrylic clear to seal them. I’ll give them a light sand to smooth them out before I reinstall them into the pf.

Will add more pics tomorrow  :D
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 21, 2013, 10:46:23 PM
Looking great so far Mitch . What sort of clear are you using and how do you apply it ?? (ie compressor/spray gun or ??)

Acrylic clear from a spray can, bought from Supercheap.. same as all my other restore work ( i dont have a compressor/spraygun setup as yet).
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: howzat on January 21, 2013, 11:22:04 PM
Its looking really good Mitch #*#
Ive been trying to help as much as I can  Ive been doing cleaning of the coin door and any metal parts that I can, to help with the resto.  I do enjoy doing all the small jobs

30 odd yrs of beer and sticky soft drinks spilled on these games takes a lot of cleaning :lol

Mitch is doing a great job and until you see what goes into a job like this its hard to realize the amount of labour involved.
Im looking fwd to playing it again and have new mylar on it will ensure that there is no more wear .  This game is a keeper as its has lots of drop targets and Friends find it easy to play and lots of fun  Also its a game from my past  just like others in my collection

Mitch is also doing some reds and yellows in the B?G     this will complete the game   Im looking fwd to seeing the process  Im sure other guy will be          Howzat
  
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: goodolddays on January 22, 2013, 10:42:35 AM
Looking great so far Mitch . What sort of clear are you using and how do you apply it ?? (ie compressor/spray gun or ??)

Acrylic clear from a spray can, bought from Supercheap.. same as all my other restore work ( i dont have a compressor/spraygun setup as yet).

Thanks for the feedback Mitch .
I actually picked up compressor /guns/airbrush from Wotto a few months ago but haven't tried it out yet . My big upcoming challenge will be touching up all the missing paint (mainly red) on my Thoro Bred BG. Will be rereading some of your resto threads before attempting it and practicing with my new airbrush.
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 22, 2013, 09:10:35 PM
A few more pics.. i reglued the inserts this morning and gave them a quick polish with some Novus 2.. starting to look good again  #*#

Last pic an overall shot of what i've done so far.. i kind of started at the bottom of the pf and am working my way up  :D
This whole area had been polished with Novus prior to taking the pic.

In the last pic the camera flash makes the red i've redone down the bottom look wrong.. it looks a much better match in person.
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 23, 2013, 06:53:41 PM
Touchups are now done and this afternoon the new mylar went on  $#$

Now i can start the reassembly  *%*
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: ghali on January 24, 2013, 01:44:06 AM
Great work! Touchups look fantastic.

The only work I don't myself on my pins is artwork, I just haven't built up the gonads to attempt it....yet.
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: goodolddays on January 26, 2013, 12:28:41 PM
Turned out really well Mitch  ^^^
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Pinlinds on January 27, 2013, 08:47:36 PM
Looks great, my favourite era and brand of pinball. I'm about to start a restore of my Firepower, these threads really help with tips and advice and keep the motivation levels up. New of but a full cabinet overhaul required!
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 28, 2013, 09:38:29 AM
Thanks guys  ^^^

I'll do a small update, some pics.. starting to reassemble the playfield
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 28, 2013, 09:45:38 AM
More pics.

I'm replacing the bumper bodies as well as the skirts, since i had them in stock and they are cheap to replace and it'll look MUCH nicer with them.
1st pic shows the old and new ones together  :D

The rod and ring assemblies were polished in the tumbler along with all of the other metal bits i could get in there.
I also replaced ALL of the metal and fibre yokes as a couple of the metal ones were broken in half as most of these Wms are when you dismantle the bumpers!
I figure if one or two are broken the others aren't far behind so i replace them all.
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 28, 2013, 09:48:51 AM
A few more reassembly pics for now..

Just waiting now for a few bits to arrive now that i ordered.
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Strangeways on January 28, 2013, 11:53:59 AM

New Pop Bumper bodies are mandatory on all reconditioning work - so I'm glad you replaced this cheap part. I cannot understand why these are often overlooked !

Question for you Mitch - When you have finished your playfield touch ups, do you level out the area completely flat ? Once the mylar is applied, can you tell that there are touch ups ?

It looks amazing once applied.
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 28, 2013, 02:32:00 PM

New Pop Bumper bodies are mandatory on all reconditioning work - so I'm glad you replaced this cheap part. I cannot understand why these are often overlooked !

Question for you Mitch - When you have finished your playfield touch ups, do you level out the area completely flat ? Once the mylar is applied, can you tell that there are touch ups ?

It looks amazing once applied.

Hi Nino, yes i do sand the touched up/repainted areas so they are level with the surrounding original paint, or as close as level as i can get it, so obviously the less amount of paint you have to use the better as far as being level goes. Sometimes you do get minor variations height that show up when viewed at certain angles with light reflection, but it doesn't seem affect the game play that i have noticed so far.

Mylar will also show up low spots in touched up areas too if they aren't built up to the proper level, again they are only noticeable with light reflections (room lighting) off the mylar, even less noticeable under the glass. So clearcoat would be better in that regard as i guess the CC would fill these?

Mylar is just an easier, quicker and cheaper option for me to use and waaaay less labour intensive!! None of the clients i have done this for so far would want to go to that expense anyway  *.*
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: howzat on January 30, 2013, 04:38:12 PM
Wow
Im going to have a fantastic game that should work for many years to come   #*#

S wars is from my past and is a keeper      Great work Mitch              Howzat
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on February 19, 2013, 11:10:20 PM
Finally done, and being delivered back to Ian tomorrow  #*#

ALL of the red posts were replaced with new ones, as well as the red lane guides.

In all honesty, this one actually gave quite a bit of grief doing the touchups, there ARE a couple of minor f**k ups in it, some of which would never be noticed by the average person, but still enough to bother me a bit!!  !@)

But Ian's happy with it so thats all that matters i guess  *%*

The plastics still have to be straightened, will do that tomorrow at his place and fit them last (after checking all the GI lamps are working).



Now to start on his backglass for this game!! Will post progress pics when i have made some progress  :D
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on February 22, 2013, 12:25:52 AM
Playfield has been delivered back to Ian and installed in the cab, and plastics flattened and installed..

Now for the backglass resto.. which i have started on and making good progress so far  *%*
It has really badly faded and flaking reds and yellows that i'm redoing, as much of as i'm able to that is!!

Will start a new thread for the bg soon  *%*
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Strangeways on February 22, 2013, 09:37:59 AM
Very nice Mitch.

I think you have twisted my arm on applying full Mylar to older playfields.

Question - do you cut the mylar around posts ?
Title: Re: Wms Stellar Wars PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on February 22, 2013, 10:19:12 AM
Thanks Nino.

Yes the mylar absolutely MUST be cut around the posts!! If the posts are screwed down onto the mylar it will bubble up around the posts.
I have detailed this a few times in the past in my resto threads.. but basically i cut about around the post about 1mm larger than the post diameter and remove the circle of mylar where the post will sit.