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Aussie Pinball Forums => General Discussion => General Pinball Discussion => Topic started by: Caveoftreasures on June 16, 2015, 08:37:47 PM
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Any game that is played 16 hrs a day, seven days a week is going to get wear sooner or later.
Having said that, I have never seen a Stern machine at TimeZone Surfers with any Playfield wear even though some have been there for 2 or more years getting tortured daily.
That is a real life testament to Sterns quality playfields.
And these games are the most tortured on earth.
They probably change the factory settings to make multiball harder to get so you play shorter games and spend more money as well as perhaps saving some playfield wear ?
The games at TimeZone show that any game purchased for home use will never wear out.
If the commercially used games at Timezone don't show wear after years of torture, the belief that Sterns clearcoat isn't thick enough is a myth to me.
Timezone Surfers with over 6 years of Stern games sited with no wear on any of the ones I have seen and played is proof enough for me. Will have to see how the KISS machines hold up. If all the others are wear free, Kiss shld be just as durable.
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How many games you reckon are played in the 16 hours a day? Would it be close to the hay day of pinball? !@# I recall during a school holiday period not being run over by players to get off an acdc at a local arcade. I didn't see any coins on the glass waiting for me to get off, so I am having trouble getting a little perspective on this
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How many games you reckon are played in the 16 hours a day? Would it be close to the hay day of pinball? !@# I recall during a school holiday period not being run over by players to get off an acdc at a local arcade. I didn't see any coins on the glass waiting for me to get off, so I am having trouble getting a little perspective on this
Machines would be turned on 16hrs a day for 7 days a week no doubt if that's the opening hours. But played continuously for that duration?
.. Be taking that statement with a very large pinch of salt
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How many games you reckon are played in the 16 hours a day? Would it be close to the hay day of pinball? !@# I recall during a school holiday period not being run over by players to get off an acdc at a local arcade. I didn't see any coins on the glass waiting for me to get off, so I am having trouble getting a little perspective on this
Machines would be turned on 16hrs a day for 7 days a week no doubt if that's the opening hours. But played continuously for that duration?
.. Be taking that statement with a very large pinch of salt
Continuous play? Be lucky to be an hour a day on average wouldn't it? LEDs must be great for the operators - imagine the GI heat & energy difference running the Bally/ Williams back in the 90's.
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Games will be switched on for 16 hours - put played for a fraction of that time. We are not in the 70's any longer. I've seen AC/DC machines offered in container lists that have playfield wear. Fairly common. Especially the Pros that have seen a lot of play. but I've seen ST TNG in the same list that are 20 years older and they have almost no wear. Dull playfields, but not worn to wood. Most Family Guys have wear in the same areas. This is normal for a game that has been played. Would have been a great earner back in the day. But games that have been played for 20 years longer, may not have the same wear. There's definitely a difference in quality across the different games. I've seen a TWD Pro that has an excellent playfield and it has clocked over 1000 games. Looks NOTHING like the TWE LE that I have.
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I didn't literally mean played every minute of every hour for 16 hrs but it was a quick post and I should have checked the wording knowing some critics might pounce. Lol
I should have said turned on 16 hrs a day and probably played a good 4 to 8 hrs.
I was driving and typing and should have checked the wording a little better.
The point being the machines at Timezone are played more than any other sited pins in the country I believe.
I regularly take my son to TZone and it's rare to see any pinball not being played constantly in quiet or busy times.
The amount of younger people, incl a lot of girls playing pins is refreshing to see these days.
Still never seen a modern Stern with playfield wear.
These machines are pretty tuff.
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Machines would be turned on 16hrs a day for 7 days a week no doubt if that's the opening hours. But played continuously for that duration?
.. Be taking that statement with a very large pinch of salt
Remember that TZGC have an ACDC clocking up 12,000 games on it per week. :D
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I didn't literally mean played every minute of every hour for 16 hrs but it was a quick post and I should have checked the wording knowing some critics might pounce. Lol
I should have said turned on 16 hrs a day and probably played a good 4 to 8 hrs.
I was driving and typing and should have checked the wording a little better.
The point being the machines at Timezone are played more than any other sited pins in the country I believe.
I regularly take my son to TZone and it's rare to see any pinball not being played constantly in quiet or busy times.
The amount of younger people, incl a lot of girls playing pins is refreshing to see these days.
Still never seen a modern Stern with playfield wear.
These machines are pretty tuff.
No need to check the wording... not exaggerating is enough.
Don't drive and use your phone.. its illegal because you have a high chance of having an accident and hurting innocent people
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!!! ignore doesn't hide the quotes !!!
"I regularly take my son to TZone and it's rare to see any pinball not being played constantly in quiet or busy times."
:lol
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I'd like a holiday on the gold coast
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I spend quite a lot of time working near these machines during the week on and off.
What I have seen is the machines are indeed at idol for long periods through the day on a weekday.
I see the odd guy or guys who are obviously pinheads and play 3 or 4 game on every machine but mainly its a passing family or couple that just have 1 game on one machine then move on and a funny enough a lot of the time leave a credit on the machine from the match without even realising it. My guess would be an average of 1 game per half hour for each machine during a weekday.
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Thanks for the accurate report, DSB.
In reality the situation you describe sounds like many other amusement centres across the country which currently have pinball machines in direct competition for your dollar with other arcade machines and particularly redemption machines.
The occasional pinhead who gives the machines a long overdue workout or the family with kids in tow who see it primarily as a novelty and then quickly move on to something else.
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If this is the case who is making up stuff? What gets me is if either is stretching the truth, what is in it for them, is Cavey being paid to promote stern or has dsb got a vendetta against stern? I'm confused !@#
Why......why is it so????
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We have yet to see the likes of the 1975-1981 pinball era. I doubt if we ever will.
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If this is the case who is making up stuff? What gets me is if either is stretching the truth, what is in it for them, is Cavey being paid to promote stern or has dsb got a vendetta against stern? I'm confused !@#
Why......why is it so????
The case has always been a certain member posting as fact what they WANT the story to be instead of what it actually is...
Who is it we wonder???
...Answers on a postcard please..
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I have nothing against Stern. I don't own one but I love playing them at Timezone. Obviously some machines are better than others. I can only tell what I have seen. Maybe at night, on weekends and during club meets they may be played a lot more. It is great though, to drop by on a weekday and pretty much have the whole bank to yourself.
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I have nothing against Stern. I don't own one but I love playing them at Timezone. Obviously some are better than others. I can only tell what I have seen. Maybe at night, on weekends and during club meets they may be played a lot more. It is great though, to drop by on a weekday and pretty much have the whole bank to yourself.
thanks for setting your side of the story straight.
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The case has always been a certain member posting as fact what they WANT the story to be instead of what it actually is...
Who is it we wonder???
...Answers on a postcard please..
Solipsism. *%*
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%.% %.% *%* &^& %$%
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I didn't literally mean played every minute of every hour for 16 hrs but it was a quick post and I should have checked the wording knowing some critics might pounce. Lol
I should have said turned on 16 hrs a day and probably played a good 4 to 8 hrs.
I was driving and typing and should have checked the wording a little better.
The point being the machines at Timezone are played more than any other sited pins in the country I believe.
I regularly take my son to TZone and it's rare to see any pinball not being played constantly in quiet or busy times.
The amount of younger people, incl a lot of girls playing pins is refreshing to see these days.
Still never seen a modern Stern with playfield wear.
These machines are pretty tuff.
No need to check the wording... not exaggerating is enough.
Don't drive and use your phone.. its illegal because you have a high chance of having an accident and hurting innocent people
I pull over and do the occassional quick post in between business appointments ofcourse. As if anyone could drive down a freeway at 110 and type fifty words whilst trying to drive. Get real Gav.
You seem to be taking on the father role again with your bitchy comments. I enjoy laughing at your posts.
I love a great laugh. Thankyou.
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If this is the case who is making up stuff? What gets me is if either is stretching the truth, what is in it for them, is Cavey being paid to promote stern or has dsb got a vendetta against stern? I'm confused !@#
Why......why is it so????
Wish I was on the payroll.
I like Stern and its products. ITs that simple.
I have been going to TimeZone for over 13 years. Probably been there over 100 times.
I have seen it flat out the vast majority of the time.
It's comedic that people from other states who aren't local and go there like I do are telling me my personal experience is incorrect. Pinballgod makes a good point.
Why do some people feel the need to pull down other people's experiences and opinions. Some people need to conduct the Spanish inquisition on more important matters.
Just because someone visits the place in quiet times doesn't mean it is always quiet. My opinion is based on a hundred visits over 13 plus years. Pinballs haven't been there all that time. Why are the one percent so bothered to tell me my experience isn't right and there guessing is more correct.
Time for the one percent to stop the bitchyness and to focus on positive pinball versus taking potshots.
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Probably better if you put me back on ignore Brett instead of taking it off to see what ive posted.
Can only go by what you say.. typing while driving.. machines played 16hrs a day 7 days a week.
Why do you post nonsense?
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I live in Melbourne and have been to TZ on the Gold Coast maybe 5 times and it's always packed and hard to get on the pins :) they must be making a shit load as he's always the first to get the new Sterns and pays to air freight them and good on them :)
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Do our Asian friends now how to or know what pinball is? Aren't they the only people who visit Gc now a days?
Japanese might but doubt the Chinese would, until Homepin launches TBAG %$% then the Chinese will know all about it.
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Do our Asian friends now how to or know what pinball is? Aren't they the only people who visit Gc now a days?
Japanese might but doubt the Chinese would, until Homepin launches TBAG %$% then the Chinese will know all about it.
I remember "Grundies" from the 80's. That place was packed all the time. IAs a family, we stopped going at the time that all the gift shops had products with two price tags - one in aussie dollars and one in Yen..
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Only been to GCTZ twice, no problem getting on the pins, in fact last time I played three of the four pins there all off credits left behind!
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The fellow who owns TimeZone told me he gets Sterns latest releases the moment the first machines roll off the production line because he has an agreement with Stern to be a test centre for the latest titles and reports any mechanical/engineering issues back to Stern as the games are played very high volume.
Apparently the same owner of TZone has many other arcade locations around the world and buys pins for all of those locations as well.
The massive volume of people going to TZone on a daily basis means Sterns pins are getting a lot of exposure and its a marketing departments dream location to showcase any arcade game.
I reckon TZone would be getting the machines at bargain basement prices as well.
The value of the arcade stock at TZone is worth a mint.
It's great that they now have so many pinballs.
Seeing so many pinballs lined up in the one area is definate eye candy.
It would be good if the pinball area had a sales brochure letting Joe Public know these pinball machines can be purchased from Stern and its dealers. In a perfect world I would love to see a small area set up like a sales showroom for pinball machines. That would increase new pinball buyers and be great to grow this industry.
Dream job in Australia would be selling brand new pins everyday and seeing families smiling as their new pinball gets delivered. If there were more Timezones accross Australia, every location could offer new Sterns.
Wish that idea came true.
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The fellow who owns TimeZone told me he gets Sterns latest releases the moment the first machines roll off the production line because he has an agreement with Stern to be a test centre for the latest titles and reports any mechanical/engineering issues back to Stern as the games are played very high volume.
This could be correct and to also give some support to the local pinball club who then bring there families to play the pins other games as well. I don't think the pins are huge money makers for them. Generally machines seem to be kept for 12 twelve months or so then sold off.
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The fellow who owns TimeZone told me he gets Sterns latest releases the moment the first machines roll off the production line because he has an agreement with Stern to be a test centre for the latest titles and reports any mechanical/engineering issues back to Stern as the games are played very high volume.
This could be correct and to also give some support to the local pinball club who then bring there families to play the pins other games as well. I don't think the pins are huge money makers for them. Generally machines seem to be kept for 12 twelve months or so then sold off.
Stern probably give him a great deal, maybe shipping cost only, otherwise it probably wouldn't be worth his time. My wife & I sometimes drop in on the way through to Noosa & pretty much have the pins to ourselves. The skill testers are much busier. We've never been during school holidays though - maybe they pick up the family & teen trade then.
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We've never been during school holidays though - maybe they pick up the family & teen trade then.
Both my visits were in school holidays, and the pins got very little attention. I specifically recall the last visit for a couple of reasons.
It was disappointing to see all the arcade stuff busy, coins pouring into redemption crap, and pins left with credits (and one was at third ball unplayed). While I was playing one a young boy came up and was interested, leaning over the game I was playing to watch, so I put a credit on the game next to me and invited him to play. The mother sees and looks at me like - well you know - and I felt humiliated, then offended how a kind gesture could be misinterpreted as potentially something horrible. Didn't blame her though, but it was not a good feeling that someone could think of me that way!!
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I don't know how they make a profit on new pinballs. Not just at TZ, but any sited new pinball. I was at TZ on the Goldy back when AC/DC Pro, TF, Tron ect were there and the pins were getting very little use. People that did stop and try the pins didn't have a second game.
I don't know how pinball survives on site.
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Current line up at Timezone Surfers Paradise. No Ghost Busters but interestingly an Americas Most Haunted.
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^^^ awesome lineup. Love to play AMH :)
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^^^ thank for the update and photo
normally GC timezone are the first to get a stern in Aus but great they got a AMH. Spooky only did 150 with only 6 coming to Aus and of those 6 only 3 are sited.
Will be up there in a few months time and have quite a few games.
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At least the claimed throng of people usually playing the machines were kind enough to stop and get out of the way for the photo. &&
With an AMH does that mean no GB?
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I heard from a local that gb will be there this week. Had some games on AMH at pizza and pinball last week. Great build quality and fun callouts.
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WWE is still there! Wow.
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And no Kiss! The Spiderman plays really nice too.
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Ghostbusters Pro has arrived at Timezone Surfers Paradise!
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Ghostbusters Pro has arrived at Timezone Surfers Paradise!
Wow! It wasn't there this morning. Will be back there tomorrow to check it out if they have set it up.
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Its up and running ^^^. There is one at Timezone Coolangatta too
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I live about 20 mins from Timezone and do go underneath where they are about once a week for work but I'm still yet to step into the place since it was Grundies in the 80's when I was a kid. ^&^