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Title: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on December 11, 2009, 10:23:02 PM
G'day all.. this is NOT one of my own pins, belongs to a mate of mine who asked me to give his Stern wildfyre playfield the "full treatment". this is the same game i repaired the boards for and documented here several months ago. Martin, the game's owner is doing the cab restore while i do the PF for him, and i have his permission to document the resto here... for anyone who gives a shit :lol



Here are a few pics showing what i have to deal with.. quite a bit of work ahead of me!! will be working on both this one AND my Zac Universe, going back n forth between the two.. should be interesting!!
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on December 11, 2009, 10:34:53 PM
There is a fair amount of lifting plywood/planking on this one that i'll have to deal with.. especially in front of the 4 bank drop target.. typical of most Stern playfields of this era (that i have seen/worked on at least)
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore
Post by: Strangeways on December 11, 2009, 11:48:17 PM

The dreaded "planking" effect. Looks like a challenge for you Mitch. Remembering the Dracula - I think it will look great. Will you be employing a similar approach?

This is the second Wildfyre playfield restore - Will be interesting to follow.

Keep the updates coming  ^^^
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on December 12, 2009, 12:04:45 AM

The dreaded "planking" effect. Looks like a challenge for you Mitch. Remembering the Dracula - I think it will look great. Will you be employing a similar approach?

This is the second Wildfyre playfield restore - Will be interesting to follow.

Keep the updates coming  ^^^

Yeah i'll use the same approach i used for Dracula. This was dropped off to my house last thursday night, i only just got a start on it today, while having a break from the Zac Universe backglass! I have it mounted on my PF jig and have started to remove parts from it.

It has HEAPS of ball swirl marks on it too. One good thing is there is NO mylar to remove!! that'll make the job easier. Most of it will probably be repainted..much the same as i did with my Dracula PF, but should be a much simpler job than Dracula was!
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 06, 2010, 12:45:09 PM
Hi guys, finally got a start on a few jobs/ projects that needed to be started. One is the Zac Universe cab restore that I’ve started (thread update coming soon) and the Stern Wildfyre PF resto that I’ve taken on for a mate of mine. Since he’s offered me some pretty good coin to do this ($500 worth!!) I thought id better get a start on it, so last week that’s what I did! Most of this PF will be completely repainted.
 
Actually I started a couple of weeks ago, by glueing up all of the loose plywood on there. Most of it I did using thinned out PVA woodglue, just letting it run down into the separated ply and clamping it down with blocks of wood and G clamps to keep it down while the glue dried. I allowed several days for the watered down glue to dry, (the crappy weather here at the time didn’t help drying time any either)! I placed grease proof paper between the wood blocks and the pf to avoid the blocks glueing themselves to the PF!
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 06, 2010, 12:51:58 PM
Once the glue had dried I then had to primer/fill the areas I had glued, and also any cracked areas in the paint. I used acrylic primer filler, out of a spray can, but I hand brushed the paint in rather that spray it on, same as I did on my Dracula PF.
 
The 2nd pic shows the left 4 bank drop target area which was the worst area that had lifting plywood. I sanded the PF first in these areas with 320 grit sandpaper before putting the primer filler on. These areas would be later block sanded back level with 400 wet/dry paper, and reprimering to fill the areas again if needed.
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 06, 2010, 01:13:34 PM
Painting progress;

‘Now where do I start’ I wondered?? I decided to start at the top and work my way down. In these pics im redoing the purple at the top of the PF. I’m using all the same techniques I used in my Drac PF, sanding back the areas to be painted with 400 grit paper first, then masking off the surrounding areas by placing down some clear book covering contact and cutting out the areas to be painted with a sharp scalpel. In the 4th pic im sanding the paint level, especially the edges with 800 grit wet/dry sandpaper, using Windex rather than water to wet the paper, this seems to work real well. I sprayed the Windex onto the paper, Not the PF.

The purple colour im using is the same paint I used on my Drac PF, id had the colour custom mixed when I did Drac, and put into a spray can, so I still had heaps left over. And it actually matches the colour on THIS PF better than it did on Drac!!
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 06, 2010, 01:22:46 PM
Here is the purple paint on either side of the top kickout holes done. The yellow around the kickout holes was the next area I tackled. In the 2nd pic im scanning the damaged lettering, in case I decide to make waterslide decals to replace the lettering. But I think im going to try touching up lettering by hand first, and only use the decal idea as a last resort, since I did some of this on Drac with pretty goods success.

In the last couple of pics here, im touching up the red on the left hand side orbit. I did this while the purple was drying, using water based artist acrylic, using the “paint & smear” trick.. just dabbing paint into the cracks/divots and just wiping off the excess paint.. quick and easy, simple but effective.
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 06, 2010, 01:32:23 PM
And here is the yellow around the top kickout holes being done, again using book contact as masking material. Notice too that I’ve masked off the lettering around the holes, I planned on cutting in around the letters with a fine brush later on.

I actually did the paint on this area twice.. the first time I wasn’t happy with the colour match of the yellow to the original colour, so I removed that colour before it had completely dried and redid it using a different shade that matched much better… so good in fact there was barely any need to cut in/touch up around the letters.
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 06, 2010, 01:40:25 PM
And here is the top drop target area after the white was redone. I’ve used an off white/beige colour for this, though it doesn’t really look like it in the pics! In these pics I’ve cut in around the lettering using a fine paint brush for the white, and a sharpie pen for the black lettering, and a magnifying glass! I still have some work to do on this lettering, and yes it VERY tricky to do, I’ve already messed it up a couple of times and had to fix stuffups!

Last pic shows the work done so far. Next thing to do is the light blue, that I’ll have to custom mix. I’ve already had a couple of experiments with mixing the colour, and I reckon I can get it pretty close. I have several areas of this colour that need doing, so I plan on preparing these areas for paint, mixing the colour and doing them all in one go with the air brush.

Stay tuned for more updates!!
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on February 06, 2010, 03:40:24 PM
I thought it was about time i did an update on this PF resto. I've been doing bits n pieces on this all the while i've been working on Universe.

First couple of pics show some of the work done on the collect bonus kickout hole. The reds were mostly done when this pic was taken, just needed a few more touchups in the red and the white in the lettering had to be done.

The next couple of pics show a little trick i came up with for redoing black lines, exploiting the fact that sharpie pen ink bleeds back through paint when you try to paint over sharpie ink. What i did was to go over the black detail lines in this section with a sharpie before i painted this area, then after i'd sprayed the white in, and the sharpie ink had bled back up thru the paint, i was able to re do the black lines after the paint had dried!!!

Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on February 06, 2010, 03:43:22 PM
more pics.. the 2nd and 3rd pics show the aqua blue being done.

Still some fixing up/touch up to be done when these were taken
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on February 06, 2010, 03:47:01 PM
the blue colour, is done in automotive acrylic, as are most of the touchups i do lately. This colour i had to custom mix.. once again keep in mind i'm far from done in these pics.. just wanting to update where im at with this thing.
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on February 06, 2010, 03:54:04 PM
Starting the touchup in the red "special" lettering. i used a magnifier to help make the job easier, seeing what i am doing, a fine paint brush and water based acrylic for this.

and finally a pic of the work done so far. I'm working on this thing from the top to bottom, working my way down the PF. About 90% of what you see in this last pic has been repainted. Im still FAR from done here.. theres LOTS i have to do to get it to the point where it looks "decent" as i say. The owner however is REALLY impressed with the little i've done so far, he said he was in no rush for it so i've been taking my time, going back n forth between this and other projects of my own.
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: ktm450 on February 07, 2010, 04:46:40 PM
Great results so far  *%*
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Pinfan on February 07, 2010, 06:28:58 PM
Love your work Mr Pinbologist !

Coming up a treat...  :D

Thanks for sharing...  ^^^
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on April 05, 2010, 10:01:06 PM
Well i think its about time i did a small update on the Wildfyre playfield im working on. This work pictured here in this post was done a few weeks ago, and i'm only getting around to posting now!! Anyhow i've been busy with the Magic Eraser and Isocol as can be seen in these pics. A fair bit of cracking and ball swirl was evident here, and between a scrub up with the ME and isocol, and some touching up by the "paint n smear" trick got the area looking much better. There was STILL a bit of work to do when these pics were taken, in particular the black lettering, which will be done soon. 
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on April 05, 2010, 10:07:09 PM
And here is the left drop target area being painted. I used clear Contact book covering to mask off the surrounding areas, as i usually do, doing each colour one at a time, once the previous paint has dried. Im using acrylic paints for this, spray cans bought from Supercheap Auto, same as i did on my Dracula playfield. The purple im using is what was left over from Dracula, which i had custom mixed into a spraycan.

In the last pic, the black lines have been re-done (i used a sharpie pen for this) and im now just deciding if the orange will be re-done.. looking at it now, i think it WILL be! The black will be repainted tomorrow, its masked up ready to go, and the yellow 'flames' have already been done but i havent taken the pics yet.

This playfield has turned into a MUCH BIGGER job than i had anticipated, more so than Dracula was! At one point i was almost sorry i took it on, but its coming together ever so slowly but surely *%* *%*
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 06, 2010, 08:47:10 AM
Andrew (Beaky) who is a member here, has a machine identical to this he may have for sale. I think the playfield is much better from memory.

call him on 0422 473539.
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on April 06, 2010, 08:58:57 AM
Andrew (Beaky) who is a member here, has a machine identical to this he may have for sale. I think the playfield is much better from memory.

call him on 0422 473539.


thanks anyway ^^^.. this is NOT my own pf, and i have already been paid a heap of money to restore THIS playfield. and besides i love a challenge and i reckon i got one when i took this on  *%* it'll look good when done.

I enjoy taking things like this that most of you would more that likely throw out and restoring it as best as possible.
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 06, 2010, 09:17:49 AM
well, it goes without saying, that you are doing a bloody great job.

its a lot of work, and the attention to detail is excellent. i always take my hat off to people who have patience to do restores.

your client/friend should be happy with the end result.

**the machine i mentioned for sale, might be of benefit to any other forum member who wants a wildfyre or a playfield for one.  ^^^
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on July 03, 2010, 02:42:22 PM
Hi guys, its been a long time between updates on this wildfyre PF, top be honest I‘ve been a bit slack with it over the last few months, mainly due to crappy weather holding up the painting progress. But over the last week or so I’ve managed to get a bit more done.

I had redone all the black areas in the middle just after the last update was posted, as can be seen in these pics. In these pics im redoing the yellow around the “1000 & advance bonus” rollover hole, masking it off with book covering contact, as usual.
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on July 03, 2010, 02:43:36 PM

More pics… in the 1st pic in using tracing paper to trace out the white areas around the bonus lettering, so I can reproduce them later. this is a similar trick to what I used on my Dracula PF, tracing the art back onto the PF using carbon paper, thus giving me lines to paint to.

2nd pic is after the yellow has been repainted, I had masked off the bonus numbering prior to painting.

Last two pics show the white around one of the bonus numbers being masked off, and the result after being painted. Again I used book contact for this.
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on July 03, 2010, 02:44:57 PM
After spending ages trying to touch up the black bonus numbering by hand, I gave up and decided to use waterslide decals. This thing is taking WAY too long to complete and I needed to save time in order to get it done quicker, especially since I’ve already been paid to do the work!

First I needed scans of the numbers, which was done so I could touch the lettering in photostudio. In the end I ended up finding a close matching font in photostudio to use instead, and modified the numbers slightly so they looked reasonably close to the original font used, mainly the “2s” I had to change, how they curl around at the top. I only needed to modify one, then I simply copy/pasted it as needed onto the other numbers. 1st pic shows a test print on plain paper… I did this for all the decals I made in order to check the size was correct against the PF before printing onto waterslide decal paper.

2nd and 3rd pics show some of the finished decals I would be using, and the last pic is of the finished bonus numbering. Of course I had to first paint over the original numbering, let it dry and sand it back level with 800 grit wet&dry using Windex as a wetting agent, before I could apply the decals. After they were applied and had dried on there I sprayed some clear acrylic over them so seal my work, which I would cut back slightly later. Once again im using automotive acrylics (touchup spraycans) for all of the repainting of the large areas.

Last pic shows the completed bonus numbering…
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on July 03, 2010, 02:46:17 PM
Repainting and decaling the ‘1000 & advance bonus’ lettering…
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on July 03, 2010, 02:47:40 PM
Here is the lower left hand side being repainted… first I redid the orange, first I sanded back all of the primer patches with 800grit and Windex, but before the paint went on, I went over the fine black detail lines at the top with a sharpie pen. In doing this, I am taking advantage of the fact that sharpie ink leeches back up through any paint that is applied over it.. thus giving me guide lines to redo the detail later on after the paint has dried!! (3rd pic shows this trick).

Last pic shows after the white as been done and the red ‘special’ insert has been glued back in.
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on July 03, 2010, 02:48:48 PM
And here are the results, after the decals have all been done and sealed in this section. I sanded the whole area with 1200 grit wet&dry and Windex before the decals went on. This is where I am at with this PF at the moment, the decals went on this morning.

Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: goodolddays on July 03, 2010, 04:15:16 PM
Looking great Mitch  ^^^.
Hell of a lot of effort going into this one by the look of it.
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Strangeways on July 03, 2010, 05:54:34 PM
And here are the results, after the decals have all been done and sealed in this section. I sanded the whole area with 1200 grit wet&dry and Windex before the decals went on. This is where I am at with this PF at the moment, the decals went on this morning.



Do you use a clearcoat to seal this area ?

Fantastic results - you simply use the paint from a can from supercheap auto etc ?
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on July 03, 2010, 07:09:37 PM
And here are the results, after the decals have all been done and sealed in this section. I sanded the whole area with 1200 grit wet&dry and Windex before the decals went on. This is where I am at with this PF at the moment, the decals went on this morning.



Do you use a clearcoat to seal this area ?

Fantastic results - you simply use the paint from a can from supercheap auto etc ?

Yes i sealed the decalled areas with acrylic clear, they will be cut back and blended in later on though its not really necessary since the whole thing will be mylared and it shouldnt show up where ive cleared under the mylar. And yes its all done with spray cans that you can buy from Supercheap Auto etc.

EDIT.. the purple colour i used was custom mixed for me by a mate in a auto paint shop and put into a spray can (it was leftover paint from my Drac PF), and the light blue areas i mixed the colour myself and applied with an airbrush..

Oh btw, thanks guys for the kind words so far ^^^ this is definitely the most difficult PF resto i've done yet!  *%*
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Wotto on July 03, 2010, 08:23:39 PM
Looks unreal mate  ^^^

But you stole my upcoming idea's for doing decals to replace lettering etc on a re-sprayed playfield - U R a pinball GRASSCUTTER   :lol

Cannot believe the colour matching you were able to 'buy' off the shelf - how good is that  *%*
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: ktm450 on July 05, 2010, 10:30:56 AM
Looks great Mitch  ^^^
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 06, 2010, 09:22:46 PM
Thanks for the comments guys ^^^

Time for another update; I've been plodding away with this PF restore when the weather permits, painting in extreme cold or rainy weather is generally NOT a good thing to do, as it usually leads to problems as i found out the hard way some time ago!! so lately i've taken to heating the garage and shining a 150watt floodlight onto the PF to warm the PF before spraying paint on, which seems to help a bit.

Ok, now some pics.. progress pics of painting of the double bonus/shoot again/ 5x inserts area. painting the white, purple and yellow. I had previously primered/filled around the inserts where the paint had worn away, and block sanded these areas flat with 400 grit wet&dry and windex ready for the paint.
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 06, 2010, 09:26:18 PM
More pics, this time repainting the orange on the right hand side. and re-doing the black detail lines at the top, which i had gone over with a sharpie pen before spraying the orange on, so i could see where the lines were meant to be after the paint was sprayed on. 
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 06, 2010, 09:29:15 PM
repainting the white extra ball insert area.. and after applying the decal for the lettering. the decal was sealed with clear acrylic after it had been applied and allowed to dry.
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 06, 2010, 09:34:42 PM
redoing the flipper areas..For this area i just sanded it smooth with 280 grit then 400 grit and masked the areas off and gave them several coats of clear acrylic. when the acrylic had dried i cut it back with 1200 grit wet&dry and windex, and hand buffed the areas with 3M hand glaze.. came up real nice!!
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: el_timbo86 on August 06, 2010, 09:35:52 PM
 #*# This playfield is looking great! I've been following this thread for a while, thanks for the continued updates

Timbo
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 06, 2010, 09:37:06 PM
And here is where im at with this PF at the moment.. ready to apply the rest of the lettering decals, which will be done tomorrow.

Unlike the rest of the painting, the aqua blue colour, i had to custom mix and airbrush on... i had to get a new airbrush this week as the old one i had shat itsself some time ago, so i had to wait til now to do this area.

Not much left to do now, just a few more minor touchups here and there, the black circles around the inserts and the black lines before the mylar goes on  $#$
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 06, 2010, 09:47:44 PM
#*# This playfield is looking great! I've been following this thread for a while, thanks for the continued updates

Timbo

Thanks Timbo ^^^ I, myself have been following YOUR own work with much interest too.

I hope you do well with your new business venture.. I must admit i've been toying with the idea of doing something similar myself since im already doing some of this kind of work for a few other people in my spare time, but i wouldn't want to be treading on yours or anyone else's toes who are already doing this kind of work.
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: el_timbo86 on August 06, 2010, 09:58:55 PM
#*# This playfield is looking great! I've been following this thread for a while, thanks for the continued updates

Timbo

Thanks Timbo ^^^ I, myself have been following YOUR own work with much interest too.

I hope you do well with your new business venture.. I must admit i've been toying with the idea of doing something similar myself since im already doing this kind of work for a few other people, but i wouldn't want to be treading on yours or anyone else's toes who are already doing this kind of work.

Certainly not treading on my toes! You have a great skill - GO FOR IT! I'm sure you will help lots of guys with their restorations  #*# Keep the updates coming

Timbo
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: ddstoys on August 07, 2010, 12:51:53 AM
Looking good Mitch as always still have not touched that fast draw playfield which I was going to try your method on (one day).  But I am going to be retrying tims method on fire power very shortly
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Strangeways on August 07, 2010, 01:03:51 AM
#*# This playfield is looking great! I've been following this thread for a while, thanks for the continued updates

Timbo

Thanks Timbo ^^^ I, myself have been following YOUR own work with much interest too.

I hope you do well with your new business venture.. I must admit i've been toying with the idea of doing something similar myself since im already doing some of this kind of work for a few other people in my spare time, but i wouldn't want to be treading on yours or anyone else's toes who are already doing this kind of work.

Great update Mitch  ^^^ As always, I enjoy your playfield restores.

As for "treading on toes" - I don't think that is an issue whatsoever, as ALL of the talented playfield resto guys learn from each other. We need MORE talented people promoting their work and if we are lucky, there will be MORE machines that have work done to them by the likes of yourself, MartyJ, Timbo, Gav etc - I think it is a REAL step forward in the hobby.

The more restorers that document their methods will only encourage others to roll up their sleeves and "have a go". There are a few of us that are willing to learn from you guys  ^^^
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: goodolddays on August 07, 2010, 09:49:29 AM
Gday Mitch .

Great update.  ^^^

I agree 100% with Nino . Go for it if you want to. No doubt there is plenty of work out there for all of you.

Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 07, 2010, 10:04:25 AM
Gday Mitch .

Great update.  ^^^

I agree 100% with Nino . Go for it if you want to. No doubt there is plenty of work out there for all of you.

Cheers
Dave


Well i already have several regular 'customers' that i do work for, and they are AP members *%* and they keep me fairly busy, so i guess im off to a good start. Only trouble is though that i dont get much time to work on my own games!! its all good though.

Also i have to go and do a shop out job on a Twilight Zone soon as i make a time to go do it. Went and looked at it a couple of weekends ago and gave him a quote for the job which he accepted, just needs rubbers, a few globes and a good cleanup, and a couple of mechanical issues. I was actually put onto this job by the guys from Bumper Action, which was a surprise!! You see this guy with the TZ called them looking for someone in Armidale NSW to work on his game and they called me, (not wanting to give out my phone no without my say so) and asked me if i was intersted on working on it.
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: goodolddays on August 07, 2010, 10:27:22 AM
Sweet Mitch !  ^^^
Only prob I can see (and you've already mentioned it) is that a hobby business will/does cut into your free time .
The trick is to somehow maintain a healthy balance between work and leisure . Good luck with it

Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 07, 2010, 03:55:09 PM
Here are the lettering decals applied. i only just put these on an hour ago, they are yet to be sealed, but will be done soon. just the black lines and a few touchups to do now #*# #*#
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: goodolddays on August 07, 2010, 04:00:03 PM
Great stuff  Mitch  ^^^  This has turned out really well .

Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 14, 2010, 12:02:54 AM
Thanks for the kind words guys ^^^

Next update;

Today i had been back and forth between this pf and my Quickdraw pf, doing bits n pieces on both at once!! Anyway for this one this post here is how i decided to do the black circles around the inserts for the section i detailed in my last post.

I spray painted these with a spray can, believe it or not!! First as can be seen in the 1st pic, i stuck down some clear contact over the inserts, and used a compass with a scalpel attached to cut out the circles (i read about a similar trick here ages ago.. i think it was a trick of retropin's  !@# !@# ) anyway it worked a treat!! perfect circles ready to be sprayed. The only mistake here was that where i had the compass point, i should've stuck extra masking tape down.. to cover the hole in the contact where the compass point was, which i forgot to do in my haste to get some paint on  @.@ next time i'll know better. The result of this was a nice black pinhole in the middle of the insert @.@ whick i had to scrape out carefully with the scalpel and refill with some clear lacquer. After  doing this and a sand back with 1200 grit wet&dry paper and a polish with some 3M hand glaze the came up pretty good.

Next time i'll double sided tape down some thin plastic to the centre of the inserts for the compass point to dig into rather than the insert!!
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: el_timbo86 on August 14, 2010, 12:13:42 AM
I would be really keen to see before and after pictures of these playfields once they are completed.
I think seeing the end result next to what you started with would blow people away  @@*

GREAT WORK MAN!   #*#

Timbo
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 14, 2010, 12:14:38 AM
More pics; this time of the area just above the outhole, which was looking a bit tired so i repainted it, first the white, then the purple, (1st and 2nd pics respectively). Finally a pic of the lower section almost done, Just the light blue in the outlanes to do, it cant be seen in the pic but there are some spots of missing paint here, which i'll be able to touch up rather than completely respray the whole areas.

The PF is about 90% done now.. just a few small touchups to do, and i also have to finish the black circles around the large bonus inserts. I reckon it'll be ready for the mylar sunday arvo at the latest  $#$
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 14, 2010, 12:52:25 AM
I would be really keen to see before and after pictures of these playfields once they are completed.
I think seeing the end result next to what you started with would blow people away  @@*

GREAT WORK MAN!   #*#

Timbo

Thanks Timbo, re the before and after pics.. will do ^^^
when the pf is finished and im posting pics, i'll find some before pics and post with the finished pics
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: FirePower on August 14, 2010, 09:40:24 AM
Impressive stuff! 

When you are painting say the area around the outhole in the white, do you stick down the contact and THEN cut out the bits you want white? 

Do you use a guide to cut or just have a really steady hand?
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 14, 2010, 10:24:39 AM
Impressive stuff! 

When you are painting say the area around the outhole in the white, do you stick down the contact and THEN cut out the bits you want white? 

Do you use a guide to cut or just have a really steady hand?


Yepp, i just stick the contact down first, then cut out the areas to be painted. I dont use any guides to cut, its all done free hand, i just take my time and cut carefully (except when i need a dead straight line, then i'll use a steel ruler as a guide).   
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Post by: ddstoys on August 14, 2010, 11:16:00 AM
 Keep yor posts coming Mitch absolutely love your work
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Post by: goodolddays on August 14, 2010, 11:19:17 AM
Keep yor posts coming Mitch absolutely love your work

Same here  ^^^
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Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 15, 2010, 10:18:51 PM
ITS DONE $#$ $#$ $#$ $#$

Got the rest of the touchups done over the weekend, and got the mylar on just a few hours ago!!
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Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 15, 2010, 10:20:11 PM
and now some before and after pics...
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Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 15, 2010, 10:21:49 PM
more...
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Post by: ddstoys on August 15, 2010, 10:24:19 PM
Looks great Mitch its always good to see the before and after photos show just how much work has been done
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Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 15, 2010, 10:24:29 PM
And a couple more!! Now the fun part comes, putting all the parts back on $#$

Also i have to repair the lamp sockets and some of the mechanics before it goes back to its owner.
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Post by: Strangeways on August 16, 2010, 01:35:59 PM

Really nice, Mitch

Question - do you cut a circle in the mylar for each post  - or is the post fitted on top of the mylar.
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Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 16, 2010, 01:50:12 PM

Really nice, Mitch

Question - do you cut a circle in the mylar for each post  - or is the post fitted on top of the mylar.

Thanx Nino

 Yes the mylar has to be cut anywhere anything bolts down hard onto the PF, otherwise the mylar will lift and bubble up around posts etc.  I usually cut a circle around where each post will screw down, using a scalpel with a guide to get a neat hole in the mylar
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Post by: FirePower on August 16, 2010, 01:53:55 PM
Wow that looks soo good  #*# you'd have to be a happy man as will the owner.  Thanks for taking the time to document it for us.

When you put the mylar down, do you apply a whole sheet and then trim the cutouts for  bumper, drop, sling openings and playfiled posts and then press the mylar down harder?  Or do you trim the mylar first and be super acurate in how you position it?

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Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 16, 2010, 02:03:21 PM
The holes for the bumpers, posts etc are cut after the mylar has been applied (not yet done in these pics). After the mylar is on, i then burnish it down hard by rubbing it down using the back of a table spoon, before the protective film is removed from the mylar. After its burnished down i then remove the protective film, revealing nice shiny mylar!!

I usually cut out all the post / bumper holes etc after the burnishing step.
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Post by: ktm450 on August 16, 2010, 02:15:52 PM
Great to compare the before and after shots, nice work
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Post by: big dog on August 17, 2010, 09:43:38 PM
great job Mitch,.................................................again.....
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Post by: el_timbo86 on August 17, 2010, 09:46:27 PM
I missed this yesterday,

GREAT JOB MITCH, hard work has certainly paid off!!  #*#  @@*

el_timbo
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 18, 2010, 11:16:04 PM
thanks for the positive comments guys.. nice to know my, what i consider 'humble' efforts are appreciated ^^^

Just thought i'd add a few more pics if the parts starting to go back on. These pics show the "Math-o-mat" i used as a guide to cut out the mylar with a scalpel for the posts where they screw down. As i mentioned, this HAS to be done otherwise the mylar will lift and bubble around the post.. learned that the hard way in the past *%*  @.@
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Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 18, 2010, 11:20:00 PM
And a few pics of the parts starting to be put back on. Note too, that i am yet to remove and repaint the wood guide rails, not yet done in these pics.. will post more pics when the parts are all back on.. well what parts i have for it.. the plastics were removed by the owner before delivering the PF to me so i dont have them here.
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Post by: faza on August 19, 2010, 08:29:07 AM
Love your work playfield came up atreat well done  #*#
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Post by: Mr Pinbologist on August 26, 2010, 10:12:44 PM
Hi everyone, The owner of this PF called in last night for a look at the PF and.. he is VERY happy with the results  $#$

As you all know after my last couple of posts, i have started putting all of the furniture back on.. im in the middle of doing the white wooden guide rails, which i'm sanding back to bare wood to refinish. Will post some pics of the finished PF this weekend.
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Post by: Strangeways on August 27, 2010, 10:46:54 AM
Hi everyone, The owner of this PF called in last night for a look at the PF and.. he is VERY happy with the results  $#$

As you all know after my last couple of posts, i have started putting all of the furniture back on.. im in the middle of doing the white wooden guide rails, which i'm sanding back to bare wood to refinish. Will post some pics of the finished PF this weekend.

I'm sure the owner will be VERY happy with the progress !
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on December 15, 2010, 09:46:24 PM
Yeah yeah this bloody thing is still in my posession @.@ finally got the final touches done to it.

Since the last post, i have removed and repaired every lamp socket, repainted the apron and applied the Pinball Rescue apron decal, rebuilt the flippers, slings and bumpers etc, and touched up the drop target markings and covered them with mylar.

The last item which i just finished this afternoon was the spinner, reapplied the new artwork. The owner has been really laid back about me getting this finished, since he is doing the cab repaint and hasnt gotten very far with it, so as a result hasnt hassled me to finish the pf.. telling me "no rush" so i have been taking my time with it :lol

Well now its completely done, i am going to light a fire under his arse to come and pick up the pf, as i am dying to work on some of my own restores, and i want the PF jig so i can start on the KISS pf resto!!



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Post by: Mr Pinbologist on December 15, 2010, 09:48:47 PM
and one final pic of the finished PF, im sooo glad it's done, its been a real ordeal getting it done and im just about to call him and say 'come and take the friggin thing!  :lol :lol
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Post by: Strangeways on December 15, 2010, 10:35:58 PM

Awesome job there Mitch ! Looks like a new playfield  ^^^
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Post by: ajlaird on December 16, 2010, 07:27:23 AM
Well, the owner will be very happy - fantastic result!
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Post by: goodolddays on December 16, 2010, 10:42:19 AM
Looks fantastic Mitch  ^^^
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Post by: Bayview on December 16, 2010, 01:17:01 PM
Looks a treat. Well done Mitch  ^^^
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Post by: Bayview on December 16, 2010, 01:18:25 PM
Looks a treat. Well done Mitch  ^^^
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Post by: ddstoys on December 16, 2010, 02:51:58 PM
As always Mitch another great restore and restore thread.   So which game is getting the treatment?
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Post by: Mr Pinbologist on December 16, 2010, 06:38:22 PM
thanks guys  ^^^ ^^^

Daniel, KISS is jumping the queue ahead of four other machines *%* *%* being the machine i most wanted, and i have sorted out all of the main problems it had. it will soon be torn down for the resto, starting with the PF, and will be doing a couple of cab repaints on two other games at the same time.. well thats the plan anyway %.% %.% we'll see how it all pans out i guess
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Post by: cynick on July 08, 2011, 02:05:20 AM
Looks great!
It does raise some questions for me and the answers may help me with my newbie Bally Star Trek resto. I hope you or other members can answer these questions.
I am killng myself trying to match the red on the playfield (using waterbased acrylic), only to read you're grabbing cans of spraypaint from SuperCheap! Can I take from this that you are going with a colour that closely matches the original then covering the whole area for consistency?
Primer filler...what exactly is this? The name is pretty self explanatory, but where do you get it and what are common brand names.
These are sure to be dumb questions, but I don't know the answers!
Thanks
Title: Re: Stern Wildfyre PF restore..
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on July 11, 2011, 10:04:08 PM
Looks great!
It does raise some questions for me and the answers may help me with my newbie Bally Star Trek resto. I hope you or other members can answer these questions.
I am killng myself trying to match the red on the playfield (using waterbased acrylic), only to read you're grabbing cans of spraypaint from SuperCheap! Can I take from this that you are going with a colour that closely matches the original then covering the whole area for consistency?
Primer filler...what exactly is this?
The name is pretty self explanatory, but where do you get it and what are common brand names.
These are sure to be dumb questions, but I don't know the answers!
Thanks

Hi, yeah pretty much what i do is pick a close matching colour (but NOT exact usually) and repaint the whole area of colour rather than trying to blend it in. The orange i used on this pf was a VERY good match, but i redid whole areas of that colour anyway to keep it consistent.

The pic below shows some of the brands of paint i have used, these are brands/colours i used on my Stern Dracula restore. I chose this pic to post as it shows the primer filler i used on that pf, as an example.

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=264.15
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Post by: Olivia_jason on July 12, 2011, 12:06:35 AM
mate, you are a freak of nature, that is awsome stuff.
something a normal person could only dream of doing lol.
this has blown my mind, nice work dude