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Aussie Pinball Forums => General Discussion => General Pinball Discussion => Topic started by: swinks on April 10, 2013, 06:46:45 AM
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Well stern have released their teaser video for the next pin
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I am not into there must but that listed a quick batch, and just the names of some of the songs would allow for some creativity. Will have watch on the big computer and screen shot some images as lots of rapid flicks of graphics, layout and toys.
Good on stern for producing another pin
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some screen shots
- it would be nice to see the 2 metal ramps and wireforms stay
- looks like 2 nice interactive toys as well
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some more
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playfield shot
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the song list - probably be similar to AC/DC - select a song
songs from particular albums
KILL EM ALL
-Seek and Destroy
RIDE THE LIGHTNING
-Creeping Death
-For Whom The Bell Tolls
-Fade To Black
MASTER OF PUPPETS
-Master of Puppets
-Battery
JUSTICE
-One
BLACK ALBUM
-Enter Sandman
-Sad But True
-Unforgiven
RELOAD
-Fuel
DEATH MAGNETIC
-End of the Line
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some more shots
1. possible translites
2. full playfield on side
3. grave target
4. hammer detail
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some more
1.playfield shot
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PinballMike who is doing the US Creature LCD has come up with a theory of shots, something to compare against.
"Just a guess, but here are the shots as I see them:
1) Left side lane – has a rear standup target and a rollover switch half way up.
2) Target bank (4 standup targets)
3) Left orbit with spinner
4) Left shot to cross toy with standup targets on each side of entrance. It also looks like the LE version may feature a row of 3 drop targets in front of a saucer.
5) Left ramp
6) Center toy (electric chair – with standup target in the base of the chair). It looks like an additional magnet is positioned in front of the chair several inches down for the LE.
7) Captive ball shoot. Looks like the LE will have a magnet/coil mech that grabs the ball and pulls it through the playfield (like TOTAN). Ball drops into a metal trough and feeds the right up-kicker. The hammer toy comes down over the ball, making it look like the ball is smashed through the playfield.
Snake scoop – my guess is that the head goes up and down to grant or deny access.
9) Right ramp
10) Right orbit with spinner
11) Right scoop/up-kicker (has 2 LEDs over the enterance).
A lot of stuff for a fan layout."
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OH YEAH! Time to start saving for Metallica....Xmas for me perhaps? Too many good pinball machines coming out!
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Metallica fans is it a good song list? Me not being a huge fan so what you guys reckon?
Peter
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pf looks promising.
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Looking good. I love their old stuff, so I'm hoping there's plenty of the early albums on the machine. As a band, I like Metallica more than AC/DC. But if there is an Iron Maiden pinball, I'll be looking at that.
Metallica is a great choice by Stern, and I might be tempted if their build quality improves and the code is finished 100%. Looking good so far !
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Teaser vid on YouTube now. I can't watch it on my phone, how does it look?
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Teaser vid on YouTube now. I can't watch it on my phone, how does it look?
Not good at all..........(for the wallet that is)..
Well if they stick with metal ramps, non photoshopped graphics and the ACDC sound system I think this might be a winner...
Glad to see Stern releasing another music/band themed game for 2013!!
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This looks excellent. Might be a big seller. The playfield toys look dam amazing.
Maybe another John Borg winner !
Cabinet art should be amazing going by the cabinet artwork.
Do we have a machine that might give ACDC a run for its money ?? !@#
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Anyone want to buy my Addams family machine for $5200 (pick up only), in order to fund this title?
Let me know.
Stephen.
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Teaser vid on YouTube now. I can't watch it on my phone, how does it look?
Looks very nice you should be able to view it my iPhone played it ok! But not good for wallet I think Matallica fans will like this.
Peter
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I like Metallica, but i am not a huge fan. But i am confused where has the art come from? I don't recall any albums that had this art or figure. Unless it has been in the last few years?
Also (and i really don't want to ruin it for anyone) but when i look at the 'headbanging' figure i can only think of one thing...... %.%
(http://i1342.photobucket.com/albums/o780/Cursed1_/CrazyFrog_zpse5b88b2f.jpg)
Great to see metal ramps and and interactive toys though. ^^^
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It looks like the figure from that mobile phone/internet advert that was on TV about 18 months ago.....
It sounded like a reving motorbike with a frog noise combined if u remember the soundtrack for the advert.
Was it a TPG advert ? !@#
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Looks great so far, another music themed pin ^^^ I like Metallica but I am not a huge fan, exciting times ahead for Stern, will be watching the progress of this title
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the song list - probably be similar to AC/DC - select a song
songs from particular albums
KILL EM ALL
-Seek and Destroy
RIDE THE LIGHTNING
-Creeping Death
-For Whom The Bell Tolls
-Fade To Black
MASTER OF PUPPETS
-Master of Puppets
-Battery
JUSTICE
-One
BLACK ALBUM
-Enter Sandman
-Sad But True
-Unforgiven
RELOAD
-Fuel
DEATH MAGNETIC
-End of the Line
Awesome news, huge Metallica fan, the song list is great, plenty of their old stuff not so sure about the unforgiven and sad but true, the rest are hard fast songs and will work well on a pinball.
Love the open playfield and of course metal ramps mmmm
If I had the disposable income that I could put towards toys (which I unfortunately do not) I would buy one even though it is a Stern, definately a premium though not a half baked version.
Rock on (http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Music/heavy-metal-044.gif)
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the layout does look good, but I just couldn't deal with the music over and over, sorry not a hater just not my music type.
hope they keep the wireforms, it would be nice to seem them compared to Avengers screened flat plastics
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I like Metallica, but i am not a huge fan. But i am confused where has the art come from? I don't recall any albums that had this art or figure. Unless it has been in the last few years?
Also (and i really don't want to ruin it for anyone) but when i look at the 'headbanging' figure i can only think of one thing...... %.%
Great to see metal ramps and and interactive toys though. ^^^
They artwork is by a guy called Dirty Donny he did the artwork for the original Metallica pinball
(http://www.dirtydonny.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/metallica-pinball.jpg)
He hasn't done album covers or anything like that, Metallica just liked his art and asked him to do 15 pieces for them, and now obviously he is also doing the new artwork.
Here is a little info on him and halfway down his dealings with Metallica http://www.gravyzine.com/Dirty%20Donny.html (http://www.gravyzine.com/Dirty%20Donny.html)
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Pinball news have a little more detail http://www.pinballnews.com/games/metallica/index.html (http://www.pinballnews.com/games/metallica/index.html)
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hope they keep the wireforms, it would be nice to seem them compared to Avengers screened flat plastics
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Agreed, wire forms, metal ramps are the BEST for any pinball and glad to see them get away from plastic crap *%*
could be fun?????????????
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Replace plastics with custom stainless strips and you have a good playing game - no big deal.
Name DOWN for a Metallica Pro ^^^ #*# ^^^
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Pinball news have a little more detail http://www.pinballnews.com/games/metallica/index.html (http://www.pinballnews.com/games/metallica/index.html)
first thing I looked for was the playfield artwork - and it is illustrated. Looks excellent - a bit similar to Monster Bash in a few ways, but I like it a lot. No photoshopped images which is a big move forward. The Cross is used throughout the game, which is interesting. As a band, I cannot recall any religious connotations. I'd expect to see a Black Sabbath pinball with the Crucifix all over it.
Straight off the bat, the artwork looks very cool. The layout looks promising. Big tick for Stern on "Day 1" ^^^
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About time another more "adult" title is released. I think it will sell well for that reason alone
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Hi Nino
The CROSS is from the Master of Puppets cover ^^^
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I like Metallica, but i am not a huge fan. But i am confused where has the art come from? I don't recall any albums that had this art or figure. Unless it has been in the last few years?
Also (and i really don't want to ruin it for anyone) but when i look at the 'headbanging' figure i can only think of one thing...... %.%
Great to see metal ramps and and interactive toys though. ^^^
They artwork is by a guy called Dirty Donny he did the artwork for the original Metallica pinball
(http://www.dirtydonny.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/metallica-pinball.jpg)
He hasn't done album covers or anything like that, Metallica just liked his art and asked him to do 15 pieces for them, and now obviously he is also doing the new artwork.
Here is a little info on him and halfway down his dealings with Metallica http://www.gravyzine.com/Dirty%20Donny.html (http://www.gravyzine.com/Dirty%20Donny.html)
pretty sure this was contracted for one of the Metallica band members who loves pinball
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too more images, nice detail on the hammer
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Replace plastics with custom stainless strips and you have a good playing game - no big deal.
Name DOWN for a Metallica Pro ^^^ #*# ^^^
I was dead against buying another music pin, but I can see why you would want one so quickly.
Something tels me, that this machine is going to be even cooler than ACDC.
Why does Stern have to bring out stuff all the time that sends u broke.lol
I havent listened to their music ever. Might have to, to see if its something I could listen to and play.....
When is the official Stern release I wonder ? !@#
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the layout does look good, but I just couldn't deal with the music over and over, sorry not a hater just not my music type.
hope they keep the wireforms, it would be nice to seem them compared to Avengers screened flat plastics
Same here although I hope it's pleases the Matallica fans out there :-)
Peter
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could this have a colour dmd - check out the image below - looks like coloured dots
also a guy attempted to photoshop the art to the playfield
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the layout does look good, but I just couldn't deal with the music over and over, sorry not a hater just not my music type.
hope they keep the wireforms, it would be nice to seem them compared to Avengers screened flat plastics
Same here although I hope it's pleases the Matallica fans out there :-)
Peter
I do to, it looks like a winner for them
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the layout does look good, but I just couldn't deal with the music over and over, sorry not a hater just not my music type.
hope they keep the wireforms, it would be nice to seem them compared to Avengers screened flat plastics
Same here although I hope it's pleases the Matallica fans out there :-)
Peter
I do to, it looks like a winner for them
It is very tempting for a non fan like me as well, i don't mind the band but can't call myself a fan. I can imagine the music blending in very well indeed. Looks great so far!
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It looks like the figure from that mobile phone/internet advert that was on TV about 18 months ago.....
It sounded like a reving motorbike with a frog noise combined if u remember the soundtrack for the advert.
Was it a TPG advert ? !@#
Yeah it was the Crazy Frog, most annoying thing on the planet!
They artwork is by a guy called Dirty Donny he did the artwork for the original Metallica pinball
He hasn't done album covers or anything like that, Metallica just liked his art and asked him to do 15 pieces for them, and now obviously he is also doing the new artwork.
Here is a little info on him and halfway down his dealings with Metallica http://www.gravyzine.com/Dirty%20Donny.html (http://www.gravyzine.com/Dirty%20Donny.html)
Thanks for that i was wondering where the design came from.
Toys on this look great, will be interesting to see it finished.
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I would consider if the music was blended in like in Iron Man but if a AC/DC jukebox style - don't think I could deal with it and wifey wouldn't be impressed.
It would be great if they could programme a option to switch from jukebox mode in game play to backing music only as reckon they could get many more sales as Donny does great art and this is looking good and as for the layout ^^^
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I hear ya about the songs playing etc, but maybe something as simple as just turning the volume right down, will give the same background effect of having the music, but not loud enough to annoy you ???
It will be interesting to see how many ACDC owners buy one as well.....so far, it seems from initial feedback on different sites, alot of people are very tempted.
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I would consider if the music was blended in like in Iron Man but if a AC/DC jukebox style - don't think I could deal with it and wifey wouldn't be impressed.
It would be great if they could programme a option to switch from jukebox mode in game play to backing music only as reckon they could get many more sales as Donny does great art and this is looking good and as for the layout ^^^
Not keen on the jukebox style either.
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It needs to be different the jukebox works great with acdc and the live concert images but this title needs its own style as such.
Peter
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I'm very keen on a Metallica if the overall package is a good one and depending on price. I love music themed pins.
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Hi Nino
The CROSS is from the Master of Puppets cover ^^^
Yes - I see why @.@
I didn't look at the entire playfield, and it is a "work in progress", but I love the "..And Justice for all" and I can see any similar reference yet. I think the artwork is being left to Donny, and I believe this is great news.
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too more images, nice detail on the hammer
The original 'hammer of justice' was done by an artist Metallica used a lot through the 80s named Pushead, he designed singles artwork used on T-shirts (most of the old tees featuring skulls were Pushead), the hammer was inside the sleeve on the ...And Justice For All album, the most recent thing he did for the band was the St.Anger artwork
(http://www.besound.com/pushead/justice.jpg)
Although a little bizarre it would have been interesting to see his art on a pinball, but I think Donny Gillies beatnik hot rod style suits pinball more than Pushead's abstract skulls
(http://www.cvltnation.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/pushead-neighborhood-211.jpeg)
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Here is the promo in slow motion
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Not a fan at all of the band, but really like the look of this - inline drop targets, a couple of spinners, metal ramps and heaps of toys.
Really like John Borg's designs and with Lyman Sheats programming the game, should be a real winner for Stern.
Didn't realise how big Metallica are - 30,000,000 facebook followers alone - massive market to tap into - can see newbies to pinball buying the game, which is great for the hobby.
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Not a fan at all of the band, but really like the look of this - inline drop targets, a couple of spinners, metal ramps and heaps of toys.
Really like John Borg's designs and with Lyman Sheats programming the game, should be a real winner for Stern.
Didn't realise how big Metallica are - 30,000,000 facebook followers alone - massive market to tap into - can see newbies to pinball buying the game, which is great for the hobby.
I agree. The game looks a lot better than their recent titles.
Metallica are massive and never fail to draw a crowd. A VERY safe theme that could sell better than AC/DC. From what I've seen, it is going to push AC/DC for sure.
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The artwork looks like Ratfink hotrod/monster style which is kicks ass imo. This cartoon style artwork really works with pinball.
The pf looks similar layout to data easts G n R, especially the position of the ramps.
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The artwork looks like Ratfink hotrod/monster style which is kicks ass imo. This cartoon style artwork really works with pinball.
The pf looks similar layout to data easts G n R, especially the position of the ramps.
Will a Metallica be joining your AC/DC and Gunners ?
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Nino - I actually think the success of the recent AC/DC pinball ( as the majority of people/ players really like it ) will actually assist in driving sales of this Metallica pinball to be honest.
Stern are on a dead set winner here - compare this 'tuffness title' and audio package and awesome artwork to a game yet to be produced with red slipper flippers and twinkle toe music.......it will surely smash that out of the ball park AND possibly be in the majority of buyers homes before you can click your heels 3 times #@#
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Nino - I actually think the success of the recent AC/DC pinball ( as the majority of people/ players really like it ) will actually assist in driving sales of this Metallica pinball to be honest.
Stern are on a dead set winner here - compare this 'tuffness title' and audio package and awesome artwork to a game yet to be produced with red slipper flippers and twinkle toe music.......it will surely smash that out of the ball park AND possibly be in the majority of buyers homes before you can click your heels 3 times #@#
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I want to see the toys work on this title - Metallica. Its a one horse race definately.
Everyone at Stern must be on something very energising. They need to put some in the Koolaid over at the opposition.
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Going to Sell like hot cakes id say more photos pls
Peter
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Nino - I actually think the success of the recent AC/DC pinball ( as the majority of people/ players really like it ) will actually assist in driving sales of this Metallica pinball to be honest.
Stern are on a dead set winner here - compare this 'tuffness title' and audio package and awesome artwork to a game yet to be produced with red slipper flippers and twinkle toe music.......it will surely smash that out of the ball park AND possibly be in the majority of buyers homes before you can click your heels 3 times #@#
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I want to see the toys work on this title - Metallica. Its a one horse race definately.
Everyone at Stern must be on something very energising. They need to put some in the Koolaid over at the opposition.
A positive thread on Stern and The Metallica machine. Instead of pumping the Metallica Pin, the post HAS to end with a stab at JJP. @@*
Cue the normal mud slinging back regarding Sterns' unfinished code, lack of quality in the build, photocopied manuals and LEDs that pop out during play.. seriously.. Back at square one.
That's why "fence sitters" like me won't buy Sterns. I call it "Goebbels' Sydrome"..
It does not take a brain surgeon to work out Metallica blows WOZ out the park regarding the theme, but it is hardy a "one horse race". Please..
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Going to Sell like hot cakes id say more photos pls
Peter
Strike while the iron is hot. Love em or hate em, Stern are pumping out the titles in rapid succession. This reminds me of the golden era back in the 70s. No pussy footing around here. Pinball to the masses while there is a strong desire.
No date committed but I am sure this is a definite 2013 release. That's the way it should be.
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What ever happened to a sense of humour. !@# Even Stalin would have laughed at the red slippers etc. It was well written and entertaining.
Wotto said something funny, so whats the big deal. It is a one horse race at the moment. Stern is pumping out titles, and JJP has been spinning its wheels for ages. So what, things will change. They are brand new, they need time, or extra people to get WOZ started.
Just because someone makes a joke doesnt mean things need to be looked at with a magnifying glass.
Hows it not a one horse race, Stern are boxing n sending out various titles, JJP hasnt started its production line.
In any event, back to the first question, what ever happened to a sense of humour, Wottos post was funny. No reason for any one to fret or worry. Even Jack might even laugh.
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Awesome, lovin' it.
Can't wait to see what the different versions look like.
I agree with the comments regarding the pin bashing, I'm sick of it too.
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John Borg told me via a recent email, that the NEW title would be released just after Fall.....
so if anyone can tell us when Fall is in the USA, u will have a rough date. ^^^
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Sadly I won't be in a position to buy one and its really depressing...
All donations gladly accepted :(
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Nino, i regarded my comments about metallica riding success of the awesome acdc game to be very positive in all honesty.
It is difficult when someone cant state , what are in reality facts, that get misconstued as negative.
Personally i am extremely happy to fully support a company that is pumping out games and i really distrust car salesmen.
Cant wait to own this metallica pinball and enjoy the endless game enhancements known as code updates
Only today i was telling the metal heads at work the positive news about sterns upcoming title.
It will sit nicely between my recent stern purchases which are both great games to play
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John Borg told me via a recent email, that the NEW title would be released just after Fall.....
so if anyone can tell us when Fall is in the USA, u will have a rough date. ^^^
The north hemi falls while the south hemi springs to it's feet. Merry Christmas and Santa's reindeers will be exhausted this year.
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What ever happened to a sense of humour. !@# Even Stalin would have laughed at the red slippers etc. It was well written and entertaining.
Wotto said something funny, so whats the big deal. It is a one horse race at the moment. Stern is pumping out titles, and JJP has been spinning its wheels for ages. So what, things will change. They are brand new, they need time, or extra people to get WOZ started.
Just because someone makes a joke doesnt mean things need to be looked at with a magnifying glass.
Hows it not a one horse race, Stern are boxing n sending out various titles, JJP hasnt started its production line.
In any event, back to the first question, what ever happened to a sense of humour, Wottos post was funny. No reason for any one to fret or worry. Even Jack might even laugh.
Sense of humor @.@
Not even funny in the slightest. I'm not commenting on wotto's thread, it was your jab at JJP - and YOU wonder why topics have to be split, and topics have to be cleaned up etc etc .. *%*
Sheesh.. !@#
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Whatever Nino. Someone makes 2 or 3 jokes, and its fine, I make a joke and I get singled out, OFCOURSE ! I call that discrimination.
How about you either laugh at both peoples jokes, or blame two people, but dont discriminate.
What a shame its not a level playing field on here, any excuse to attack me. Pathetic. I wont waste my time reading any more on this topic, but as usual, I will print n save the hypocrisy posts.
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I just hope the game is received and sells well, just keeps the pinball dream alive.
Must be a lot of buzz around Stern at the moment, would be great to be part of it - choosing upcoming titles, design etc..
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Tony - the word 'around the place' is that this title is going to absolutely KILL IT in the marketplace.
Hence I got my name top of the list at AMD this morning ^^^
Cant be any more positive towards a title and a companies efforts than that ^^^
Aint NO WAY I am missing out on this game.
I watch the video clip with the bursts from 'Master' playing and I am already excited about this game.
By the way Fall is around 5 months away in the USA - it is our Springtime
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Here by Xmas then easily with 2 or 3 months to spare . Sounds good. ^^^
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I just hope the game is received and sells well, just keeps the pinball dream alive.
Must be a lot of buzz around Stern at the moment, would be great to be part of it - choosing upcoming titles, design etc..
My thoughts exactly. :)
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Looks promising to me and I'm pretty happy with that song list too.
Only problem is I want this and an acdc pin now. Why do they keep making pins of my favorite bands ^&^
They haven't announced pricing yet have they?
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AMD has said same pricing, and IF any increase, max $100, so usual Pro model from $6200 ish without shaker or delivery.
ACDC is $5950, but i cant see any other pinny starting that low again. LE should be $8950 ish plus delivery
AMDs auto mailing list should come out when the time is right. ^^^
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Looking forward to more pictures.
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some more info that has spoken with the designer.
"1st off guys the PRO does have the inline 3 bank of targets in front of the cross and also some clarification on the electric chair
It's torso moves and the bobble head portion moves twice as much. When you see the light show for that event you will wet yourself.
The whole electric chair mech is the same on all models."
"Yep he wanted everyone to be clear on that. Lyman and Borg will not be letting anybody down"
"One LE and a Premium and a Pro."
"Pro will be pretty action packed on this one guys"
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Massive thumbs up to the artwork on this machine. For me personally, this is what pinball 'artwork' should be. Major improvement on recent playfields.
As many have already mentioned, I can see this machine giving AC/DC a big run for it's money as far as production numbers go. Maybe this is the start of Stern's response to competition in the market....let's hope it isn't a one off. I would rather see genuine artwork like this as opposed to the introduction of an LCD screen (as an example) on Stern machines.
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idea of what the dots will be like
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Massive thumbs up to the artwork on this machine. For me personally, this is what pinball 'artwork' should be. Major improvement on recent playfields.
As many have already mentioned, I can see this machine giving AC/DC a big run for it's money as far as production numbers go. Maybe this is the start of Stern's response to competition in the market....let's hope it isn't a one off. I would rather see genuine artwork like this as opposed to the introduction of an LCD screen (as an example) on Stern machines.
Agree with the art, wonder if Metallica just said you have to use our artist instead of Stern's photoshop artists, especially when this was Donny's first Metallica pin (1 off)
http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=8370.0
this is his website
http://www.dirtydonny.com
and he did the art on the Hellacopters pin as well
http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=8371.0
and didn't realise he did the Beatniks pin as well, one very cool backglass
http://www.dirtydonny.com/?cat=5
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Massive thumbs up to the artwork on this machine. For me personally, this is what pinball 'artwork' should be. Major improvement on recent playfields.
As many have already mentioned, I can see this machine giving AC/DC a big run for it's money as far as production numbers go. Maybe this is the start of Stern's response to competition in the market....let's hope it isn't a one off. I would rather see genuine artwork like this as opposed to the introduction of an LCD screen (as an example) on Stern machines.
Big +1 from me also, I dont care to much either way for LCD sceens or DMD's for that matter. for me thats not what instantly appeals about a pinball machine. Good original artwork is what draws me in.
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I posted on a pinside thread about a wish not to be like a AC/DC jukebox style so it could be more appealing for non metallica fans, with a response from a guy who has spoken with Borg
"Music will be incorporated different then what it is in ACDC."
this is promising for those tempted by layout and art but not the music
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Looks promising to me and I'm pretty happy with that song list too.
Only problem is I want this and an acdc pin now. Why do they keep making pins of my favorite bands ^&^
They haven't announced pricing yet have they?
It's a thing called Market Research.
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"One LE and a Premium and a Pro."
"Pro will be pretty action packed on this one guys"
I still believe there is no need for a Premium, but at least they've cut the LE down to one.
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Awesome.
Borgy is a very smart designer.
Like Steve Ritchie, everything Borgy does turns to GOLD ! ^^^
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I posted on a pinside thread about a wish not to be like a AC/DC jukebox style so it could be more appealing for non metallica fans, with a response from a guy who has spoken with Borg
"Music will be incorporated different then what it is in ACDC."
this is promising for those tempted by layout and art but not the music
That's good it needs its own "style" the jukebox works great with acdc but this music pin looks to be something new both with design and artwork and I'm glad the pro has most of the goodies.
Peter
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along with Lyman programming
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I actually really like the way the songs were incorporated into the ACDC pin, it was a great way to get the full enjoyment of the whole of the songs.
I just hope they don't do anything similar to Rolling Stones. I hate that there isn't any full songs on that pin, it just irritates me hearing only snippets of each song.
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Good thing about a feature packed pro is there's no rush to buy I can sit back watch it evolve then make my mind up and yes I hope it has full songs.
Peter
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would be good if you could go into the settings and change from full songs to backing song sections with more prominent sound effects = potential more sales grabbing those that are not full on into Metallica
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Good thing about a feature packed pro is there's no rush to buy I can sit back watch it evolve then make my mind up and yes I hope it has full songs.
Peter
Best way to do it. Looks like a great pin to play from the small snippets we have.
Would love an LE, but I am not that big a fan of M ( I do like some of their music )and I am not in the hobby for the $ . More than happy to let the fans of M enjoy this one the top shelf models.
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Here is a good link from Pinball News website
http://www.pinballnews.com/games/metallica/index.html
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No third flipper?
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I still believe there is no need for a Premium, but at least they've cut the LE down to one.
Really? Example i believe there is a need for it is below!
Good thing about a feature packed pro is there's no rush to buy I can sit back watch it evolve then make my mind up and yes I hope it has full songs.
Peter
Well except if he wanted the LE playfield. %.%
But i love the idea of premiums, you can sit back and bide your time. Play it first to be sure you like it before purchase, even purchase it a year later!
Mind you the last 2 pins there were/are LE's still available well after release, but sometimes there isnt. I actually would be happy with just Pros and Premiums!
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The artwork looks like Ratfink hotrod/monster style which is kicks ass imo. This cartoon style artwork really works with pinball.
The pf looks similar layout to data easts G n R, especially the position of the ramps.
Will a Metallica be joining your AC/DC and Gunners ?
Nope, not in a position to add another NIB to my collection this year !!!
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Mind you the last 2 pins there were/are LE's still available well after release, but sometimes there isnt. I actually would be happy with just Pros and Premiums!
I agree. I think you can confuse your market with to many options.
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Confuse or cater to a wider market?
I think the Pro, Premium and LE is an excellent business model, something for everyone. Operators, collectors etc.
I'm interested to see what the differences may be between the various models.
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Choices seem to be welcomed by most. Keeps all parties happy. Stern must be listening to the market.
Even if they only sell 100 or 200 Premiums worldwide, they have the LE playfields, they have the Pro cabinets, and the only big hassle is a differnt translite which they tend to crete extra versions when they work out the shortlist of approved translites anyway for the Pro model.
A small bit of printing, and all of a sudden, they can invent a new model out of existing parts. Smart I thought if it brings in extra income for the company.
Doesnt that Large Duck Chair Toy look unreal. Makes the bell on ACDC seem quite tame now.lol (even painted Gold.lol) %.%
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I went to Stern's Youtube video channel out of curiosity and took a screen shot of their video list since avengers release and starting to think Metallic could do way better than AC/DC
AC/DC teaser since release over a year ago has had close to 55000 view
Metallica tease since 30hrs ago has nearly 53000 views
There potentially could be so many Metallica music fans in their 40's cashed up and ready to pop on the ultimate band collectible and never had a pin before.
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Based on certified albus sales AC/DC is 2:1 over Metallica but then again, The Rolling Stones are neck and neck with AC/DC in album sales but their pinball was not a big hit. Hard to say but there was certainly a lot of anticipation for Metallica. Once people get to sample the baked product it may well become a best seller.
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The probable sceairio is that this will be a better pin in some ways compared to ACDC because Stern will take all the good feedback from ACDC and use those good points, get rid of any points the market didnt like, and produce something that previous non music pinball peoples will now like in a pinny.
It will be like X Men, not a title/theme hugely great in itself, but a balanced and well thought out pinball machine which will get you to buy once u play it and see how good a player it is. At the same time Stern is ratcheting up its designs and toys n level of fun/features. How can the public not like all of this.
If Metallica is a well thought out John Borg design, wrapped around another music theme, it should do really well, plus these are Stern titles that can be sited n pull coin.
It wouldnt surprise me if Stern does a string of different music pins and cashes in on the demand and popularity. Exciting times. ^^^
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My point was that a lot of those views would be from band fans as a lot of music websites are stating that Metallica are getting there own pin along with a video link so it is getting so much more exposure compared to the last 3 different themes. These potential buyers arent going to care about previous pins but be focused on the music used and the well known art of that Metallica is known for.
I also think fans of metallic and kiss live the music and are cashed up and this would be there ultimate toy compared to RS fans.
I think the art potential is much bigger for this one compared to RS and AC/DC from a creative stand point
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Now i am probably going to get crucified for saying this but today i intentionally listened to all of the Metallica songs proposed for the pin. And i have to say im not convinced they will match playing a pin, some for me were to slow like Unforgiven, Sad but True, Fade to Black and One (over the first half anyway) and others i felt were to fast like Fuel, Master of Puppets, Battery and End of the line.
In saying that i could really picture getting into Creeping death, for whom the bell tolls and Enter Sandman.
Now i listened to these songs purely thinking about playing pinball with them, and i have to be honest i can't see it. I like Metallica and the songs are good (well at least half of them) but the beat of most of thier music just does not flow with a pinball in my mind. This is purely an observation and i hope i am wrong.
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I was a Metallica fan in high school and thought I'd listen to Metallica on the way to work the other day to see if I could imagine how it would go with playing pinball. Battery came on and I had a chuckle. That's going to be some crazy playing going on right there and I can imagine my girlfriend telling me to turn it down if I bought one. Haha.
Yep, time to start saving.
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I wonder if there will be other band pins to come from stern, jjp or whoever?
This Metallica pin has me so interested I might just buy one.
I would love a pin from a band I am a fan of but seeing as most of my fav bands are that damn obscure most people would have never heard of them I doubt it very much.
This may be as good as it gets for me.
!@#
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Photos of all 3 models and feature list has been released at Metallica's website now
http://www.metallica.com/news/20130411-359099.asp
And sterns Facebook says the LE is already sold out.
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This was the comment made on Facebook by Gary Stern, so anyone interested in a LE better call AMD first thing
http://www.facebook.com/sternpinball
Dear Ladies & Gentlemen,
Our US allocation for Metallica Master of Puppets has sold out within the
first hour of our detailed announcement. The export allocations are
selling out quickly. Working together we will have tremendous sales and
success with all versions of ths great Metallica game.
Gary Stern
President
Stern Pinball, Inc
Noticed
the premium has a new style of side rails with mini button guards.
The pro has no hammer
And there probably more
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http://www.pingamejournal.com/stern/
Some info and same photos, interesting that the premium is the only one to have a real band image and the other 2 with the cartoon like image, 3 different looking cabinets and pro doesn't pop as much so probably running globes not leds.
Sorry hard to post photos from a iPad, have fun searching and stern's web page s down so must be updating.
One great thing foe the guys that will buy this ss and wire forms are on all three versions.
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cab photos
I think the LE and Pro looked the best personally, oh and I made a mistake with the side armour on the premium &^&
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playfields and option list
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some more of LE's
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some pro shots
the difference that I can notice in the pro's is
- the snake will not be mechanically animated
- no hammer
- no illuminated coffin insert showing the ball lock - which is a shame as looks good
and probably a few other things, but this is a great looking playfield especially the wire forms and the artwork is incredible - yeah no obvious photoshop.
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oh and prices for the states
Pro Version: $4,995
Premium Version (road case): $6,995
Limited Edition Version: (Master of Puppets) $7,595
lets see what this does in Aus, might be more than $100 for each model
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now for the mods %.% and not my work, someone else's
- a premium with a pro translite (looks better IMHO)
- the backbox graphic stitched to the playfield to show how the real band image just quite doesn't work on the premium and how the pro translite works better
- a premium with a custom trim and custom translite
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pulled from Metallica's website - starting hitting the streets in May so May - June in Aus - better start saving those dollars, not long
http://www.metallica.com/news/20130411-359099.asp
"Pinball Wizard
April 11, 2013
It's been a long time in the making, so we are proud to finally announce the arrival of a first for us – an all Metallica pinball machine! After years of playing on Kirk's machines at HQ, we jumped at the idea when Stern Pinball came to us with some designs and ideas some time ago. The machines will include 12 'Tallica songs with "Master of Puppets," "One," and "Fade To Black" among them. Features will include an electric chair, snake, grave markers and lots of other bells and whistles along with art by our friend Dirty Donny.
Three models are available for order now, the Pro, Premium, and Limited Edition through Stern's dealers or for Met Club members who log in and hit the store here. Check out the chart below for all the features of each and look for them to start hitting the streets some time in May.
Stern Pinball is the leading producer of pinball games and is all machines are engineered and manufactured by hand just outside of Chicago, IL. Recent popular machines have included AC/DC, the Avengers, X-Men, Avatar, Iron Man, and Spider-Man. For more info visit www.sternpinball.com."
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Premium for me.
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Just noticed the LE back box has gone back to the regular shape unlike the avengers LE backboxes
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The art on the playfield is incredible and the detail on the toys (like the snake's head) looks excellent.
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The pro has the best translite, way better than the premium.
The MOP LE artwork in insane! Well done Stern
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it is great that the LE has the SS side rails and also all these just need a little more metal = mirror blades ^^^
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and it has started
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/clt/3737696977.html
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Another article from the States:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/04/will-the-metallica-table-help-pinball-ride-the-lightning-to-relevance/
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Please sir, may I have a Pro. Yep, need to win Lotto!
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and it has started
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/clt/3737696977.html
That will happen here too from the usual sellers.
LE and Pro look great. It's good to see the LE has gone away from the cheap powder coat finish. I'm not a fan of the Premium cab.
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Another article from the States:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/04/will-the-metallica-table-help-pinball-ride-the-lightning-to-relevance/
good link, here are the photos
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gameplay video %.% %.% %.% %.%
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some other good things I noticed
- SS ramps and wireforms
- SS ramp flaps
- SS trim on the LE
- SS apron on the LE - nice
but I think how the music is meshed in will determine the non metallica fans in popping
Who is in?
Sorry for my crap load of posts, had a op 2 days ago and bored and a new pin is always interesting
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My 16 yo daughter can save up for this one.......when she gets a job. I am not a huge fan of metal, a lot of other people are.
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I like the custom artwork on the pro best.
The rehashed "live shit: binge and purge" box set album artwork on the premium cab and photo back glass are just not as cool
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I like the custom artwork on the pro best.
The rehashed "live shit: binge and purge" box set album artwork on the premium cab and photo back glass are just not as cool
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As you all know I was already 'in' - but after seeing these pics I want the thing TOMORROW @@*
I was actually going to step up to a Premium ( was thinking about that last night ) and then I saw the cab/translite and think it is awful when compared to the other models - what a shame.
I am MORE than happy to miss 2 spinner and the hammer ( basically ) and stay with the PRO.
BRING IT ON.
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As you all know I was already 'in' - but after seeing these pics I want the thing TOMORROW @@*
I was actually going to step up to a Premium ( was thinking about that last night ) and then I saw the cab/translite and think it is awful when compared to the other models - what a shame.
I am MORE than happy to miss 2 spinner and the hammer ( basically ) and stay with the PRO.
BRING IT ON.
congrats Wotto, Pro looks great
bit more info of the images posted
http://www.pinballnews.com/games/metallica/index3.html
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I'm thinking about ordering one myself now. Looks like a step up from Stern with some nice improvements and I like the theme.
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If I am to buy it will be a pro.
I think I will wait and see how Star Trek pans out and then make a decision.
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Stern site must be inundated. A few minutes ago I got a Service Unavailable message.
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If I am to buy it will be a pro.
I think I will wait and see how Star Trek pans out and then make a decision.
Yeah mate - I know of a few others also waiting on Star Trek details - that could be the only thing that would slightly slow sales of this current game.
As much as we would ALL love to, we cant buy every title that gets released, so pick a theme that you enjoy more ( lucky I like metal music ) and hope for the best.
However - after this package I reckon the pinball world and Stern have a tough tough act to follow.
They may have just built a new rod for thier own back #@#
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some other good things I noticed
- SS trim on the LE
- SS apron on the LE - nice
Q - is it real stainless steel or just a silver finish on ABS plastic?
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Sorry for my crap load of posts
Don't apologize. Keep the posts coming through, as we're fallen behind to AA's thread, by a couple of pages.
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Pro looses:
2 x spinners
4 x drops on the lhs
1 x hammer and magnet (which I think is the disappearing ball)
1 x coffin see through insert (ball lock)
1 x mechanically animated snake
1 x mechanical grave marker
1 x Metallica Laser cut speaker panels but this will be a mod for sure
led lighting, but this can be modded to people's desire
The only item which is a real game difference is the hammer, I reckon the pro will be a faster game, and the see through coffin plastic would of been nice but still reckon for the dollar the pro would be the best bang for buck, now it will just be interesting to see the game play vid - wonder if that will be released there Friday arvo so our Saturday morning.
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If I am to buy it will be a pro.
I think I will wait and see how Star Trek pans out and then make a decision.
Yeah mate - I know of a few others also waiting on Star Trek details - that could be the only thing that would slightly slow sales of this current game.
As much as we would ALL love to, we cant buy every title that gets released, so pick a theme that you enjoy more ( lucky I like metal music ) and hope for the best.
However - after this package I reckon the pinball world and Stern have a tough tough act to follow.
They may have just built a new rod for thier own back #@#
I am not really a fan of either theme but I'm very curious as to what star trek will look like, as far as metallica goes it looks stunning and my gut is telling me to buy one. The artwork is fantastic,the pro really grabs my eye and if it plays half as good as it looks it will be EPIC. Pretty sure it is programmed by Lyman as well so that gives me confidence in code too. Keen to see some vids of gameplay with the audio cranked.
I am sure there will be plenty of pros of both titles available down the track.
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Can't wait for the gameplay video.
Played AC/DC last night and i must say, that the clear ramps gives that overall "openness" playfield look.
Those ramps on Metallica do look steep and i'm concerned about the left hand ramp shot. The opening is small and it's obstructed by the in line target wall - bet ya Metallica can't do back-hand flipper shots!
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Bring on the videos very interested to see how it's all integrated together, great to see another buzz with a great title.
Peter
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Those ramps on Metallica do look steep and i'm concerned about the left hand ramp shot. The opening is small and it's obstructed by the in line target wall - bet ya Metallica can't do back-hand flipper shots!
I don't know one of the band members is right into pins and has quite a few, he might
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Looks great! Liking the TOTAN magnet and visible lock mech. Also wonder if the snake will be similar to CC's mine? Would be cool if it was.
LE is the pick of the bunch, Cab looks fantastic! Looking forward to the videos.
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great to see another buzz with a great title.
2013 Thread of year award goes to Metallica.
What's happening with WOZ Brett - it's so yesteryear lol.
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great to see another buzz with a great title.
2013 Thread of year award goes to Metallica.
What's happening with WOZ Brett - it's so yesteryear lol.
Might be the first pinball played to death in people's minds, the old WOZ.
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This game is the talk of the pinball planet right now.
Had a few calls this morning - everyone raving about it ( mostly )
^^^
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Mmmmmm now what to sell..... Anyone want a rapid fire ?? Mmmm what else
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The wait is over for me on a NIB purchase,after passing on the last 3 releases from Stern.After looking at the pics early this morning and tossing up between the LE and Pro,i am more than happy to buy the Pro as I am not fussed about losing the hammer or spinners.What a great looking game and playfield layout so heres hoping it plays as good as it looks ^^^.
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Pity you can't get a premium game inside the pro cabinet as i think the hammer of justice smashing the ball making it disappear will be a very cool toy. The premium game has a few better things but its external apperance is not as cool as the pro !@#
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I get the LE cab it looks amazing!
Bit 'meh' on the Premium.
But i don't get the love for the Pro cab?? Lime green, purple and fluro orange? Really? !@#
I am not meaning to sound like a hater here, love the playfield! ^^^
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Stern site must be inundated. A few minutes ago I got a Service Unavailable message.
Stern site is still out. OVERLOAD!
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But i don't get the love for the Pro cab?? Lime green, purple and fluro orange? Really? !@#
I'm with you. I would have accepted just a matt black spray painted job, with Metallica's logo on it.
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$9250 for the LE and an expected delivery in mid June
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But i don't get the love for the Pro cab?? Lime green, purple and fluro orange? Really? !@#
I'm with you. I would have accepted just a matt black spray painted job, with Metallica's logo on it.
Maybe a premium with a different translite. Actually the blues in the premium/LE playfield go well with silvers and greys. It will be interesting to see what they look like lit up.
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$9250 for the LE and an expected delivery in mid June
Wow, things are happening so fast at Stern. Can they give our wallets a break!
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oh and prices for the states
Pro Version: $4,995
Premium Version (road case): $6,995
Limited Edition Version: (Master of Puppets) $7,595
lets see what this does in Aus, might be more than $100 for each model
These are the prices we should be getting them for. Our dollar buys $1.04 US dollars, add max $500 each unit for shipping, etc and that's it !@#
At those prices I would consider selling a kidney and buy one
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The LE's look the best imo, the cabinet artwork matches the Master of Puppets albulm artwork very well, I wonder how many LE's AMD have managed to secure for Australia?
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oh and prices for the states
Pro Version: $4,995
Premium Version (road case): $6,995
Limited Edition Version: (Master of Puppets) $7,595
lets see what this does in Aus, might be more than $100 for each model
These are the prices we should be getting them for. Our dollar buys $1.04 US dollars, add max $500 each unit for shipping, etc and that's it !@#
At those prices I would consider selling a kidney and buy one
Don't forget that you need to give 10% to our humble government.
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Those ramps on Metallica do look steep and i'm concerned about the left hand ramp shot. The opening is small and it's obstructed by the in line target wall - bet ya Metallica can't do back-hand flipper shots!
I don't know one of the band members is right into pins and has quite a few, he might
Kirk has a few pins, James has at least one (the custom whirlwind), they have a few also in their studio. I have seen a few vids that they have pins backstage as well. Great to see a band so into it, that is another reason I think this pin will rock, they wouldn't let anything not up to scratch pass through
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oh and prices for the states
Pro Version: $4,995
Premium Version (road case): $6,995
Limited Edition Version: (Master of Puppets) $7,595
lets see what this does in Aus, might be more than $100 for each model
These are the prices we should be getting them for. Our dollar buys $1.04 US dollars, add max $500 each unit for shipping, etc and that's it !@#
At those prices I would consider selling a kidney and buy one
Don't forget that you need to give 10% to our humble government.
Ok but still under $1000 more than the US surely ::)
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Those ramps on Metallica do look steep and i'm concerned about the left hand ramp shot. The opening is small and it's obstructed by the in line target wall - bet ya Metallica can't do back-hand flipper shots!
I don't know one of the band members is right into pins and has quite a few, he might
Kirk has a few pins, James has at least one (the custom whirlwind), they have a few also in their studio. I have seen a few vids that they have pins backstage as well. Great to see a band so into it, that is another reason I think this pin will rock, they wouldn't let anything not up to scratch pass through
Some autographed translites/back glass like Kiss come to mind.
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oh and prices for the states
Pro Version: $4,995
Premium Version (road case): $6,995
Limited Edition Version: (Master of Puppets) $7,595
lets see what this does in Aus, might be more than $100 for each model
These are the prices we should be getting them for. Our dollar buys $1.04 US dollars, add max $500 each unit for shipping, etc and that's it !@#
At those prices I would consider selling a kidney and buy one
10% GST 5% Duty, freight and freight forwarding, plus the distributor costing
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Distributors (in the US at least) purchase them on a sliding scale discount already, depending on how many units they buy (the bigger the elephant, the more your buying power).
That's how GAP in the US was able to sell NIB BIBLEs for 6100 and still turn a profit.
LE breakdown prediction -
260 export - say 60-70 to Oceania and the rest Euro with a negligible handful to Stern's emerging markets (Macau, HK et al).
240 US domestic inc Canada. The 800 pound gorilla dealers in the US (Betson) will snaffle up a sizable portion of low numbers (sub #25) and list them on ebay for an inflated price.
I would also expect a couple of NIB LE's to hit ebay AU in the weeks following release for 10,000+. *%*
All this without seeing a video of it in action or even glancing at a ruleset.
Pinball...ya gotta laugh at the direction it is going. :lol
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I gotta say I like the extra bits and pieces on the Premium and don't mind the cabinet but that back glass with it looks shite. The pro back glass is better than that one.
Again I think it would be great to be able to spec your own pin as has been suggested before. Eg this playfield, with that cabinet and this back glass etc. Also allow it to be customized later too so that even if you bought the pro model you could still pay for after market upgrades to the software buy the missing toys etc etc. that way whilst you may only sell say 1,000 premiums initially, fast forward one or two years and effectively hou have sold much more than that with after market parts as people have been able to gradually pay for upgrades over time to their initially purchased machines as their budgets permit.
It just seems logical after reading this thread and ones on other sites saying, I like this from the pro, that from the LE etc etc.
Anyhow, either way the game looks kick ass so far and hopefully the game play does it justice too.
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Sell, sell, sell....congrats to those who have put down deposits today.
Remember this time last year? You guys were unboxing AC/DC.
Fun times ahead.
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Is that a missing tournament button in those pictures or have they changed from yellow to black?
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I bought a premium acdc but replace the translight with the pro version because I liked it better if I get the premium Metallica ill probably by a pro translight aswell it's good to have options
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69 coming to Australia I heard :-)
Peter
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69 coming to Australia I heard :-)
Peter
Or did someone purchase #69...
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69 coming to Australia I heard :-)
Peter
69 LEs ? I can't see them selling that many here, not at $9250 a pop.
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69 coming to Australia I heard :-)
Peter
Or did someone purchase #69...
I don't think these LE's are numbered like past titles.
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69 coming to Australia I heard :-)
Peter
69 LEs ? I can't see them selling that many here, not at $9250 a pop.
Maybe that includes pro models too!
Very cool looking game.
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69 coming to Australia I heard :-)
Peter
69 LEs ? I can't see them selling that many here, not at $9250 a pop.
Stated on another forum 69 LE's to OZ and 1 to NZ. There was 100 acdc LE's to OZ.
Peter
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I am usin I.phone. I have asked amd/Bruce if he can order me a Metallica premium but stern can swap premium translite for a pro translite and put pro decals on instead . That way I get prem play field but best pro decals n best pro translite. It shld be same price cause all stern has to do is grab a Premium off the line n swap translite n decals only. Let u know how I go. ^^^ !@#
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69 coming to Australia I heard :-)
Peter
69 LEs ? I can't see them selling that many here, not at $9250 a pop.
Stated on another forum 69 LE's to OZ and 1 to NZ. There was 100 acdc LE's to OZ.
Peter
Ok. I didn't think that many LEs would make it here.
Cavey, I think you're pushing it with that request %.% I can't see Stern doing that, but good luck.
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Stern site must be inundated. A few minutes ago I got a Service Unavailable message.
Stern site is still out. OVERLOAD!
Still out, now I am getting this message:
"The Stern Pinball website is overwhelmed with the response for the Metallica pinball machine. Please try again in one hour"
Looks like a lot of interest. I don't think the 69 LEs will last long.
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Stern's website backup, but not much info that don't already have
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there is a rumour that is believed to be accurate that another Premium may be released, hopefully stern have been listening while there website has been down during the release and change out that translite and maybe the cabinet decals as well ???
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there is a rumour that is believed to be accurate that another Premium may be released, hopefully stern have been listening while there website has been down during the release and change out that translite and maybe the cabinet decals as well ???
The premium cabinet is OK. Just the translite is crap.
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there is a rumour that is believed to be accurate that another Premium may be released, hopefully stern have been listening while there website has been down during the release and change out that translite and maybe the cabinet decals as well ???
Hopefully, the premium cab is crap. The LE and Pro on the other hand, ^^^
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teaser vid has hit nearly 68000 views, I saw alot of metallica fans sussing this one out
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there is a rumour that is believed to be accurate that another Premium may be released, hopefully stern have been listening while there website has been down during the release and change out that translite and maybe the cabinet decals as well ???
Hopefully, the premium cab is crap. The LE and Pro on the other hand, ^^^
All the designs are approved by Metallica, right? So they must like all the colours and styles. If they do release another premium, I'm hoping the metal grey premium sells low numbers, perhaps lower than LEs. This may well be the sleeper of the group.
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%.% just because all models are approved by the band doesn't mean jack really. There's a lot of negative feedback on the premium and I agree the cab and translite look crap.
The LE and Pro are the winners.
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But i don't get the love for the Pro cab?? Lime green, purple and fluro orange? Really? !@#
I'm with you. I would have accepted just a matt black spray painted job, with Metallica's logo on it.
I dont dig the vivid colours, but I really like the fact that it is original artwork. I could definately live with the premium cab with the pro translight.
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How about a Death Magnetic limited edition, the cab made into the shape of a coffin, with the headbox and translight the tombstone *%*
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iPhone. Wait till everyone sees all the Metallica models in person especially the pro cabinet n translite colours
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At least we can be 99% sure that the machine will ACTUALLY be delivered within a sensible timeframe.
Sent from PRC on my Samsung mini laptop
What is it with all this crap that has to be tagged
to posts advertisiing mainly Apple rubbish?
Turn it off please - it's annoying!
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How about a Death Magnetic limited edition, the cab made into the shape of a coffin, with the headbox and translight the tombstone *%*
Death Magnetic - the ONLY Metallica album I have EVER got my disc from the car and literally frisbeed it through our warehouse - never to be seen again #@#
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:lol At least it is better than St. Anger and shitloads better than thing 'Lulu' with Lou Reed. Very hard to get through @.@
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Yeah OK - I will give it that at least @.@
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At least we can be 99% sure that the machine will ACTUALLY be delivered within a sensible timeframe.
Sent from PRC on my Samsung mini laptop
What is it with all this crap that has to be tagged
to posts advertisiing mainly Apple rubbish?
Turn it off please - it's annoying!
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I.phone. Because interstate n posting using phone for first time on site n don't know what post will come out as n can't see real good cause left glasses behind.lol. Can see screen to post but can't see much afterwards.lol. Still get use to doing proper computer Work on a dam phone. Think all Metallica models will look better in person than on the Internet sites n photos .
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here is a option for the premium guys, pro translite in a premium cab
simulation done on a mac %.% %.% ^.^ ^.^ %.% %.% homepin #@# ............ kidding
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I.phone
Just put premium/le play field in a pro body n keep pro translite n pro cab decals but get rid of ugly premium translite n yuk silver cab. I hope they do a 2nd prem version similar to avengers premium. Or just buy a Metallica pro n stil be happy
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I must be the only one that likes & accepts the Premium model. Just think it reflects their album artwork seemingly.
I'm sorry, but I don't dig the cartoon look.
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I must be the only one that likes & accepts the Premium model. Just think it reflects their album artwork seemingly.
I'm sorry, but I don't dig the cartoon look.
+1
I am not a real big fan but if you google Metallica on images and browse down the results, not a single cartoon. The predominant colours are black, silver, grey and blue. The premium is the one.
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Oops, sorry there was one cartoon:
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Metallica Zombies v the Real deal.
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Maybe something similar to this with custom LED lighting behind translite.
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I think a lot of us like cartoony artwork in general, add to that metallica, add to that dirty donny cartoon art style as in the zombie look and its ,in the main a win win win.
I also reckon that hetfield had a massive say in this game,including carrying the artwork over from the custom game some years back,hence we have the current pro and le look.
Just my thoughts
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I think a lot of us like cartoony artwork in general, add to that metallica, add to that dirty donny cartoon art style as in the zombie look and its ,in the main a win win win.
I also reckon that hetfield had a massive say in this game,including carrying the artwork over from the custom game some years back,hence we have the current pro and le look.
Just my thoughts
Precisely why Stern did not do the premium cartoony. Go for the LE for cartoony, premium for clasic Metallica and the pro cartoony for the masses.
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I must be the only one that likes & accepts the Premium model. Just think it reflects their album artwork seemingly.
I'm sorry, but I don't dig the cartoon look.
I quite like the look of the premium too.
I was tossing up between the LE and the Premium to buy.
I like them both but I'm not a fan of the pro at all.
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If u look at silver premium n want to keep real band look then premium look is fine , but if u look at pinny from just fun n pinball perspective , silver may be harder for some cause its very serious . Either way something here for everyone. Still think colours in real life are going to blow us all away , especially the pro with its mad colours.
Who has ordered or who is going to order a Metallica pinball machine ??? Which model n why ???
Bruce/AMD will have full inbox come Monday...
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I think the premium actually truly reflects the true look and feel of the band. That would be my pic of the three
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Either way something here for everyone.
Who has ordered or who is going to order a Metallica pinball machine ??? Which model n why ???
Agree with the 'something for everyone comment'
In for a PRO, already ordered - why , cause they are all I can afford #@#
PLUS this PRO seems to be very well done in all regards.
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The wait is over for me on a NIB purchase,after passing on the last 3 releases from Stern.After looking at the pics early this morning and tossing up between the LE and Pro,i am more than happy to buy the Pro as I am not fussed about losing the hammer or spinners.What a great looking game and playfield layout so heres hoping it plays as good as it looks ^^^.
Mate - 1000 congrats ^^^
I know that you are much fussier than me in regards to the newer machines and have massively high standards - which is great.
I reckon it's good to see you pull the pin ( pardon the pun ) on this one.........
Ride the lightning my friend .........oh , hang on , that aint on there ?
:lol :lol :lol
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Ride the lightning my friend .........oh , hang on , that aint on there ?
:lol :lol :lol
Controlled EL wire in electric blue colour. ^^^
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Who has ordered or who is going to order a Metallica pinball machine ??? Which model n why ???
This will be my first NIB experience, thought i'm not buying from the first shipment.
Hoping a November visit to Sydney and work out a deal, direct with AMD.
Till then, wait and see approach for me or i could try my luck against Richard, in the next comp lol.
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here is a option for the premium guys, pro translite in a premium cab
simulation done on a mac %.% %.% ^.^ ^.^ %.% %.% homepin #@# ............ kidding
That's what ill do to mine no doupt
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I'm in couldn't help myself now the waiting game :-)
Peter
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I'm in couldn't help myself now the waiting game :-)
Peter
#*# #*# #*# good on you Peter! It looks like it'll be a ripper of a title.
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congrats Pete and Wotto and anyone else grabbing this one, does look good.
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I'm in couldn't help myself now the waiting game :-)
Peter
Yep well done Pete, will fit in your games room nicely!
You having an unboxing night? %.% && #@# <..> $.$
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I'm in couldn't help myself now the waiting game :-)
Peter
Yep well done Pete, will fit in your games room nicely!
You having an unboxing night? %.% && #@# <..> $.$
Thanks Michael yeah the PF layout sold me plus the theme, as you know my work hours aren't real normal so my unboxings happen in the morning before work but if the planets align and it falls on a sat or I'm abit sick that day lol I'll give you a buzz your always welcome.
Did you fit your Tron scoop mod?
Peter
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well done Pete on your purchase. metallica will sit next to acdc nicely. which one did u decide on ?
I think its great that John Borg will get alot of well deserved appreciation because the playfield layouts n designs he creates are second to none, with speed, flow and just a effortless playing style u get from his designs. I reckon he is as good as Steve Ritchie all day. Play any of his titles and u can see some thinking has gone into his work for sure. I know he copped a bit for a few designs during sterns cost cutting models, but a designer is only as good as his budget and the latitude the boss gives him. X Men and Metallica for Stern a re big winners.
glad u got one mate, well done.
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well done Pete on your purchase. metallica will sit next to acdc nicely. which one did u decide on ?
I think its great that John Borg will get alot of well deserved appreciation because the playfield layouts n designs he creates are second to none, with speed, flow and just a effortless playing style u get from his designs. I reckon he is as good as Steve Ritchie all day. Play any of his titles and u can see some thinking has gone into his work for sure. I know he copped a bit for a few designs during sterns cost cutting models, but a designer is only as good as his budget and the latitude the boss gives him. X Men and Metallica for Stern a re big winners.
glad u got one mate, well done.
Cheers Brett I grabbed a LE I love the look of the PF layout some nice shots and cool toys, can't wait for a gameplay video.
Peter
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Who has ordered or who is going to order a Metallica pinball machine ??? Which model n why ???
Bruce/AMD will have full inbox come Monday...
I was very close to ordering and had initial contact with AMD, but emailed them last night to confirm i'm out.
It's simply too much money to buy without any gameplay video or the chance to play it in person. I'll wait and play a pro model on site.
I was getting caught up in the hype. Plus if all goes to plan i might have a new game in a few days.
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Are there confirmed Aussie prices yet?
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Are there confirmed Aussie prices yet?
Dan, I emailed Bruce on Thurs/fri and asked for prices on the various models.
Hopefully he will answer back on Mon/Tues but I suspect he will have 100 emails asking the same thing in his email inbox.
I am sure one of us will post up the prices when we get the word.
Remembering prices were NOT suppose to be going up anymore than $100, so lets see if the Pro n Premium models stay good, and IF the LE stays around the $8950 price (most LE models) or IF it goes back to the $9250 ACDC LE pricing ?? !@# !@#
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While I was at Supernova yesterday I spoke to Michael at the AMD stand and he told me pricing would be dictated by Stern but it was likely that they would be up no more than $150 to $200
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nothing yet from AMD
http://www.amdcoinop.com/#!pinball-machines/c17eu
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Will AMD be charging extra for low LE numbered pins?
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Will AMD be charging extra for low LE numbered pins?
Yep, so i've heard. What a joke.......and no shaker motor with a $9250 NIB ^&^
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Good article from pinside
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/04/will-the-metallica-table-help-pinball-ride-the-lightning-to-relevance/
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^&^
Are there confirmed Aussie prices yet?
$9250 for the LE
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Will AMD be charging extra for low LE numbered pins?
$100 for a requested number but if under number 20 I think it's $250.
Peter
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$9250 LE
$8400 Premium
Not sure about Pro, 6200/6400??
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$8400 shit I think I only paid $7400 for acdc
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$8400 shit I think I only paid $7400 for acdc
Also there is no shaker so another $200 difference.
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$8400 shit I think I only paid $7400 for acdc
A bit rich isn't. Might as well spend the extra money on the LE.
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so in effect the LE has gone up from $8950 (Avengers LE) to possibly $9250 without a shaker then plus another $200 to match the previous machines that had shakers, therefore a $500 increase, just a little more than $100.
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$8400 shit I think I only paid $7400 for acdc
Premiums were $8200 I thought (ACDC) and LEs $9250 (ACDC)
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so in effect the LE has gone up from $8950 (Avengers LE) to possibly $9250 without a shaker then plus another $200 to match the previous machines that had shakers, therefore a $500 increase, just a little more than $100.
X Men LE didn't come with a shaker
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Some of the prices bouncing around are way out, n too high.
Premium models have always been $8250 and can incl a shaker usually, unless u are buying in the first few days.
LE models of anything has always incl shakers on all models since they started when I have enquired to AMD.
ACDC $9250, but all others $8950 incl shaker.
Negotiate is the name of the game, irrelevant of RRP.
We shld all know confirmed pricing tomorrow, but still negotiate. A shaker motor always thrown in is a nice treat if u are a repeat customer, but everyone can negotiate to get a win win for everyone involved.
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so in effect the LE has gone up from $8950 (Avengers LE) to possibly $9250 without a shaker then plus another $200 to match the previous machines that had shakers, therefore a $500 increase, just a little more than $100.
X Men LE didn't come with a shaker
I thought they did but maybe I am mistaken !@# and maybe the price was a little higher which included a shaker
oh well even at $9250 it is up $300 which is getting to a breaking point I think with some especially when a few got a hulk and sold within a few weeks and lost up to a couple of grand. If I popped on this one pro would be for me looks good
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so in effect the LE has gone up from $8950 (Avengers LE) to possibly $9250 without a shaker then plus another $200 to match the previous machines that had shakers, therefore a $500 increase, just a little more than $100.
X Men LE didn't come with a shaker
I thought they did but maybe I am mistaken !@# and maybe the price was a little higher which included a shaker
oh well even at $9250 it is up $300 which is getting to a breaking point I think with some especially when a few got a hulk and sold within a few weeks and lost up to a couple of grand. If I popped on this one pro would be for me looks good
same price as ACDC LE, but much less made of LE Metallica.
Watch them rise in price in 3 to 6 months.
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same price as ACDC LE, but much less made of LE Metallica.
Watch them rise in price in 3 to 6 months.
Actually the same - 500 ACDC LE and 500 LE Metallica
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OK, was told 300 LE only - Metallica by a USA Dealer.
Must be 300 USA only, 200 for export ??.
Hopefully Stern will release proper numbers unless I missed it >> ?
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Bruce-AMD not in until Tuesday morning.
Another sleep before we all know exact pricing.lol Its like the night before Xmas. %.%
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Bruce isn't sure about shaker at this stage and LE is $9250 but all music pins need a shaker lol
Does the snake head spit the ball back like JP or just swallow it?
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/15/apu7evyv.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/15/zuse8umy.jpg)
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Oh and I read somewhere it will be 500 LE's
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/04/15/udu4y3uz.jpg)
Peter
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are you asking if it spits or swallows?..........................best question ever
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are you asking if it spits or swallows?..........................best question ever
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are you asking if it spits or swallows?..........................best question ever
Yes but not in the way your thinking lol
Must read my posts before hitting the send button
Peter
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are you asking if it spits or swallows?..........................best question ever
Yes but not in the way your thinking lol
Must read my posts before hitting the send button
Peter
it was a true gift Peter....... don't change for us
I'm guessing it swallows as theres a odd shaped insert that looks like it could be a trap door
from memory Swinks said something re the snake head doing something on the LE & premium model but not on the pro.
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Yep, the more money you put into a Pro, the more it will do. That's why we have Premiums and LEs out there working hard for the money.
;-)
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Just read on Stern, the snake head talks.
Mouth of snake actuates (opens n closes) on the LE/Prem model when balls are registered etc, and snake head talks, but no snake mouth movement on Pro. Voice still actuates on all models apparently. I think their might be alot more cool surprises yet.
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Just read on Stern, the snake head talks.
Mouth of snake actuates (opens n closes) on the LE/Prem model when balls are registered etc, and snake head talks, but no snake mouth movement on Pro. Voice still actuates on all models apparently. I think their might be alot more cool surprises yet.
Ok cool so ball goes in snakes mouth then it talks nice toy cheers.
Peter
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Bruce-AMD not in until Tuesday morning.
Because he's in Melbourne.
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I can already hear the bitching and complaining from the wife but I just ordered a LE Master of Puppets !*!
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I can already hear the bitching and complaining from the wife but I just ordered a LE Master of Puppets !*!
Congrats well done :-)
Peter
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I can already hear the bitching and complaining from the wife but I just ordered a LE Master of Puppets !*!
Well done mate. It's called karma....all the good you have thrown out there has come back to give you a present.
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Now what to sell???? Lol
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congrats mate, should be sweet
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Better be its a bloody expensive work bench
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Now what to sell???? Lol
Sell? If you're going to sell something, make sure it isn't one of your pinball machines. haha.
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Nice one Dan! Congrats to everyone who's commited to buying so far. If it plays anything like it looks it'll be awesome.
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Now what to sell???? Lol
Sell? If you're going to sell something, make sure it isn't one of your pinball machines. haha.
Pinnies will only go if i have no other options. Rapid fire will be sold as I have the hyperball to restore. I think I'm going to have to let go my little whurlitzer digital jukebox :(. Not sure what else yet
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I can already hear the bitching and complaining from the wife but I just ordered a LE Master of Puppets !*!
Well done #*#
You are my new best friend mate :lol would absolutely LOVE to own my fav band pinny but no way I can do it unfortunately !!!
if you get sick of me hanging around just tell me to go home *)*
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I can already hear the bitching and complaining from the wife but I just ordered a LE Master of Puppets !*!
Well done #*#
You are my new best friend mate :lol would absolutely LOVE to own my fav band pinny but no way I can do it unfortunately !!!
if you get sick of me hanging around just tell me to go home *)*
No worries Matt. Don't want to help fund it ill sell you rapid fire that you loved so much ;)
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%)% I do like that game mate, but gotta lay off the spending for a little while
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%)% I do like that game mate, but gotta lay off the spending for a little while
Stupid iPod should be :lol not %)%
must be my fat fingers, I need to preview more now I can't modify my posts @.@
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%)% I do like that game mate, but gotta lay off the spending for a little while
Stupid iPod should be :lol not %)%
must be my fat fingers, I need to preview more now I can't modify my posts @.@
I thought iPods played music....... %.% More crapple problems........
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Official pricing from AMD
LE $9250. Plus $100 to nominate a no. from 10-100
Premium $8450
Pro $6350
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Official pricing from AMD
LE $9250. Plus $100 to nominate a no. from 10-100
Premium $8450
Pro $6350
Plus $100 to nominate a no. FROM 10-500
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Official pricing from AMD
LE $9250. Plus $100 to nominate a no. from 10-100
Premium $8450
Pro $6350
EDIT: Plus $100 to nominate a no. FROM 10-500
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As Rob(Replay) mentioned, Official pricing from AMD
LE $9250. Plus $100 to nominate a no. from 10-100
Premium $8450
Pro $6350
Well, the prices have gone up a little more than the suggested $100 max that was spoken about a few weeks back. Why I am not sure.
So the LE price is the same as the ACDC LE pricing was, I get that.
The Pro pricing has gone up from $6200 to $6350, up $150. Perhaps people ordering a Pro should negotiate hard for a shaker motor to be included ? I know sometimes AMD does deals if u pay the lot upfront instead of staggered payments after deposit etc.
The Premium price I think has gone up by $200 or not at all depending what you compare it to. I was sure when the ACDC Premium first came out, it was $8450 with shaker, then slid back to a listing price of $8200 without shaker. The AMD site doesnt say if $8450 includes a shaker or not, but whenever I have enquired about a Premium in the past, I was always given a price with a shaker factory installed. Will have to send a email on this one.
Either way, it seems late June/early July will be when people start getting their Metallica games delivered.
Ofcourse, we are all sitting on the edge of our seats to see real versions instead of internet pictures, and we are probably all looking forward to the video of the various models all set up in real life so we can see these mad mad colour combinations.
If anyone gets anything, post away, please !
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NOW FOR THE GAMEPLAY VIDEO please stern :-)
Peter
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NOW FOR THE GAMEPLAY VIDEO please stern :-)
Peter
Once their allocations have been meet lol.
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I got my invoice number today so time to make the deposit $#$
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I cannot see why there is a increase in price in AU ..
Dollar is stronger that US
AMD should offer a discounted price on shaker motors ...
just my thoughts...
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A $450 > $400 dollar increase if you factor in no shaker motor. Has shaker motor been confirmed as standard in the LE yet?
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Pro is up $150 ($6200 to $6350)
LE price is the same as ACDC LE @ $9250
Premium is up $250 from $8200 to $8450 (but same pricing if shaker included)
*I have always been able to negotiate with a shaker incl
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I'm hoping it has the same sound system as the acdc premium /LE
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I cannot see why there is a increase in price in AU ..
Dollar is stronger that US
AMD should offer a discounted price on shaker motors ...
just my thoughts...
+1
No need to be uping the price.
Shaker motors should be included free of charge.
Is this game going to be mono audio like acdc or will we see a music themed pinball in stereo?
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If Data East offered stereo sound in 1987, we should get stereo sound in 2013
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Seems to be huge interest in this title reminds me a little of the early days hype of ac/dc and they would make a great pair.
Nice looking pin that's for sure and a good thing even if your not into this title. What Im hoping will happen now is that a we see some quality used titles hit the second hand market as people sell off there existing titles to either make room or to finance this one. Good for everyone when a great new game such as this one hits the market.
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Seems to be huge interest in this title reminds me a little of the early days hype of ac/dc and they would make a great pair.
Nice looking pin that's for sure and a good thing even if your not into this title. What Im hoping will happen now is that a we see some quality used titles hit the second hand market as people sell off there existing titles to either make room or to finance this one. Good for everyone when a great new game such as this one hits the market.
Yeah the hype on this game is bigger than AC/DC that's for sure I just can't wait for a video and that shouldn't be far away, Apparently AMD has sold all there LE's and cashbox only has 5 left and all we have seen is a few photo's. Thanks to Jack it looks like Stern has lifted there game with a nice PF with some very cool toys.
Peter @@*
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All versions of the machine look really good.
I just hope they have good code, because ultimately that is what makes a game.
There are a heap of sucky themes that have great gameplay and vice versa.
Please Stern don't let this be one of them. (fingers crossed)
Forgot to say I have my name down for an LE.
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What interests me is how the music will or will not be incorporated into the whole machine. ? !@#
A jukebox or no jukebox ? !@#
A radio during attract mode like ACDC or not ? !@#
How many people will sell a ACDC pinny to buy a Metallica, or will it just be a purchase to sit next to a ACDC ? !@#
Will there be more music pinnys ? is this the start to a run of different band pinballs ? .....what band is next ??? !@# !@#
Lots of questions til the video comes out.
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I think the music will be integrated like Guns and Roses but play more of the song?? Maybe just a guess but with Lyman doing the code it'll be special. Will sit nice next to acdc :-)
Peter
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I was seriously thinking about selling my acdc before metallicas release but I have to have them both now
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Yeah they'd look pretty good sitting next to each other.
I hope they play the whole songs in the same way as ACDC or something similar, it would just sh!t me if they didn't.
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Will there be more music pinnys ? is this the start to a run of different band pinballs ? .....what band is next ??? !@# !@#
At the rate of success on ACDC and now the insane run Metallica is having pre-release , I would say that one Mr Gary Stern is currently having quite a few discussions about "what band are we going to talk to next".
"Thanks to JJP we have this Metallica game " someone said #@#
Why give that bloke credit for this game @.@
YES he may have made GS think "f*ck JJP I am gunna smash one out the ball park here and drive a nail in his coffin"( dunno? ) - but way more like I would say Metallica themselves didnt want anything BUT quality in all regards ( gameplay and art ) related to thier brand name. I doubt VERY much that the so called , yet to be proven 'quality' of WOZ actually "scared Stern" into doing something we currently think looks better than the past.
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Good morning.
How's the orange juice?
What's on the cards today @ NYC - a visit to JJP perhaps?
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It wouldnt be a surprised if another music pinny gets done 6 to 12 months down the line.
Also, another good thought for Stern, maybe some people buyin Metallica will just buy a ACDC to go with it.....ACDC might have just got an extra lease of life as well for another year or more, they were already backlogged with ACDC orders before Metallica, now they might get extra buyers looking hard at all the Stern games available.
Re WOZ, the quality is definately there, the video Jack sent me, the populated playfields n cabinets is/are just amazing. Everyone is stepping up their game, and we as buyers are all winning.
Fast forward 2 to 5 years, and JJP will be a very serious contender because he isnt giving up anytime soon and his quality and design ideas are amazing. Jacks like a tornado, he is only just starting to get wound up and he will catch up, but in the meantime, I know we will see a top quality product from JJP, and if Stern keeps it all up as well, we all win bigtime.
Imagine whats on the menu in 2014 ? and 2013 hasnt even finished yet with Star Trek still to come, with Avengers Premium, all the Metallicas as well.
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The only thing that's going to save JJP is to sign up Kiss.
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I want a HENDRIX pinball complete with psycedelic artwork covering Jimis career, stereo audio and comes with a free shaker motor and a sheet of acid!
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The only thing that's going to save JJP is to sign up Kiss.
I know they are reasonably popular but I don't think they are in the same league as ACDC and Metallica.
As cool as it might sound, I don't think the reality would sell well enough to save anyone's business.
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Good morning.
How's the orange juice?
What's on the cards today @ NYC - a visit to JJP perhaps?
Hahaha - OJ here is quite OK and funny enough I literally just had some - but even thats better in CA ^^^
About to update travel thread , so keep this thread on track <..>
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The only thing that's going to save JJP is to sign up Kiss.
I know they are reasonably popular but I don't think they are in the same league as ACDC and Metallica.
As cool as it might sound, I don't think the reality would sell well enough to save anyone's business.
I wouldn't under estimate the selling power of Kiss. Purely my thoughts only but if Stern aren't persisting with trying to sign Kiss up for a machine I'll donate my left one.
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I think if Metallica out performs AC/DC in sales then Kiss would be mad not to take advantage of some money over no money to have a 2nd pin. At least Kiss with there costumes adds some creativity to a game like Metallica's artwork over some other possible bands which could be seen as quite bland in appearance.
And agree with CC, Hendrix pin could be a bit funky, given the reggae background, I bet if it paid out in joints it would get the teenagers in %.%
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I think AC/DC knows something is up. hehe.....Found this Metallica topper in my collection last night. Might be more suited to the Premium rather than Pro.
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The only thing that's going to save JJP is to sign up Kiss.
I know they are reasonably popular but I don't think they are in the same league as ACDC and Metallica.
As cool as it might sound, I don't think the reality would sell well enough to save anyone's business.
I wouldn't under estimate the selling power of Kiss. Purely my thoughts only but if Stern aren't persisting with trying to sign Kiss up for a machine I'll donate my left one.
Definitely not in the same league. Precedent is already set with 17,000 units sold. All the other music related pins combined still don't add up to 17,000. Even the Rolling Stones only just made it to 5700 units. It is also consistently the most sought after SS title of any genre. This title has been on stern's wishlist since 2008, but I'm told that the license is too much for stern to afford. I travel in Kiss' circles and I know that there are many KISS fans who would not hesitate to buy a 2014/2015 KISS machine to go next to their 1978 machine. Other bands simply can't compare. stern know this - but it won't happen unless things change drastically.
AC/DC and Metallica are safe licenses. Should they continue with the Heavy Metal genre then the logical next title should be Iron Maiden. Funny how they are mainly 70's and 80's Metal bands. Somehow I can't see a Duran Duran pinball machine, but you never know. But I often wonder if they did a mainstream band or artist like Prince or Springsteen. That would be huge.
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I think if Metallica out performs AC/DC in sales then Kiss would be mad not to take advantage of some money over no money to have a 2nd pin. At least Kiss with there costumes adds some creativity to a game like Metallica's artwork over some other possible bands which could be seen as quite bland in appearance.
And agree with CC, Hendrix pin could be a bit funky, given the reggae background, I bet if it paid out in joints it would get the teenagers in %.%
KISS reject anything that does not make them money. the stern deal is not good enough. The pinball is the ultimate piece of merchandise of the most merchandised band of all time. My generation can afford a NIB KISS pinball.
A Hendrix pin would be an awesome idea, but what of the generation gap ? Back to the 60's - it would be marketed to an older generation. Like the Elvis pinball, it may not be accepted. I would seriously look at a Hendrix pinball, but it would depend on who made it.
Right here and right now - Metallica / Iron Maiden was the logical choice.
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AC/DC METALLICA and KISS can't wait for that lineup :-) come on Gene I have the money put aside for the KISS LE then I'd have the BIG 3
Peter
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I can't see a Duran Duran pinball machine, but you never know
All I can say is God help us....... %.%
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I want a HENDRIX pinball complete with psycedelic artwork covering Jimis career, stereo audio and comes with a free shaker motor and a sheet of acid!
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Now that would be an awesome pin!
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I want a HENDRIX pinball complete with psycedelic artwork covering Jimis career, stereo audio and comes with a free shaker motor and a sheet of acid!
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Now that would be an awesome pin!
What a suprise that a "HASH"MAN would like a hendrix pin....you must have some things in common
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I want a HENDRIX pinball complete with psycedelic artwork covering Jimis career, stereo audio and comes with a free shaker motor and a sheet of acid!
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Now that would be an awesome pin!
What a suprise that a "HASH"MAN would like a hendrix pin....you must have some things in common
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AC/DC METALLICA and KISS can't wait for that lineup :-) come on Gene I have the money put aside for the KISS LE then I'd have the BIG 3
Peter
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It would be the best music line up you would ever see..
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I wouldn't go near a Hendrix machine, he has his place in history but not on a pinball machine.
I couldn't see too many other bands pulling big numbers, even Iron Maiden, as cool as it would be, could not compare to the numbers that AC/DC and Metallica are going to end up producing. I don't know if a bit of a mixture of bands would be worth considering e.g. Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Pearl Jam, The Offspring, Faith No More, Soundgarden, Motley Crue etc etc Work your way through the ages of rock as a bit of a rock time capsule.
Even if Kiss was more expensive due to licensing costs it would still sell big big numbers.
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I wouldn't go near a Hendrix machine, he has his place in history but not on a pinball machine.
I couldn't see too many other bands pulling big numbers, even Iron Maiden, as cool as it would be, could not compare to the numbers that AC/DC and Metallica are going to end up producing. I don't know if a bit of a mixture of bands would be worth considering e.g. Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Pearl Jam, The Offspring, Faith No More, Soundgarden, Motley Crue etc etc Work your way through the ages of rock as a bit of a rock time capsule.
Even if Kiss was more expensive due to licensing costs it would still sell big big numbers.
If acdc,the who, metallica, stones, kiss, elton john, dolly parton ...geez even gnr for gods sake can be immortalised on pinball machine and not hendrix there is something very wrong. One the greatest musicians ever!
Bring on a Voodoo Chile or Purple Haze LE wih some crosstown traffic multiball action through some wicked ramps and subways!
Sweeeeeeeet!
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I think if Metallica out performs AC/DC in sales then Kiss would be mad not to take advantage of some money over no money to have a 2nd pin. At least Kiss with there costumes adds some creativity to a game like Metallica's artwork over some other possible bands which could be seen as quite bland in appearance.
And agree with CC, Hendrix pin could be a bit funky, given the reggae background, I bet if it paid out in joints it would get the teenagers in %.%
KISS reject anything that does not make them money. the stern deal is not good enough. The pinball is the ultimate piece of merchandise of the most merchandised band of all time. My generation can afford a NIB KISS pinball.
A Hendrix pin would be an awesome idea, but what of the generation gap ? Back to the 60's - it would be marketed to an older generation. Like the Elvis pinball, it may not be accepted. I would seriously look at a Hendrix pinball, but it would depend on who made it.
Right here and right now - Metallica / Iron Maiden was the logical choice.
All music pins now are marketed to an older generation. IE us, no spring chicken here.
I am sure the kids are stoked there are metallica and acdc etc to buy and play, most of them couldn't care less.
All that matters is if a pin will sell to our demographic.
Hendrix pin done well by someone, anyone would be EPIC and would sell.
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I can't see a Hendrix pinny selling in big numbers. Would be a flop as far as sales go IMO.
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I can't see a Hendrix pinny selling in big numbers. Would be a flop as far as sales go IMO.
I would buy one that is all that matters!
Pinball will die a slow death with us anyway so bring on a music title that really matters to me.
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I can't see a Hendrix pinny selling in big numbers. Would be a flop as far as sales go IMO.
I would buy one that is all that matters!
Pinball will die a slow death with us anyway so bring on a music title that really matters to me.
^^^
Email Stern and demand a Hendrix pinball.
Surely you can pick one out of AC/DC, Metallica, GnR, RS..... %.% or god help you, KISS.
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I can't see a Hendrix pinny selling in big numbers. Would be a flop as far as sales go IMO.
I would buy one that is all that matters!
Pinball will die a slow death with us anyway so bring on a music title that really matters to me.
^^^
Email Stern and demand a Hendrix pinball.
Surely you can pick one out of AC/DC, Metallica, GnR, RS..... %.%
I would prefer that they didn't make it to be honest.
Two boat anchors there already from stern, hope metallica redeems them as it looks epic and the less said about gnr the better.
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Jimi plays Monterey - a must see doco/movie for anyone who loves Hendrix.
I am also a HUGE Hendrix fan - I reckon he had more talent than half these bands put together.
Purple Haze LE - Pinball (would sell well I reckon, espescially in the USA where he is still an icon all these years later)
Rock me Baby - Premium - Pinball
Jimmi Hendrix Experience - Pro
Imagine a jukebox with 12 cool songs. I reckon it might just sell extremely well. If Metallica can sell well, why not JH.
The dude below can do the artwork.lol A definite must watch, It never gets old, very very cool.
I think once Metallica comes out, people will start to think about a lot more music pinny options.
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I can't see a Hendrix pinny selling in big numbers. Would be a flop as far as sales go IMO.
I would buy one that is all that matters!
Pinball will die a slow death with us anyway so bring on a music title that really matters to me.
^^^
Email Stern and demand a Hendrix pinball.
Surely you can pick one out of AC/DC, Metallica, GnR, RS..... %.%
I would prefer that they didn't make it to be honest.
Two boat anchors there already from stern, hope metallica redeems them as it looks epic and the less said about gnr the better.
You're a tough man to please with pins
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Well I've deposited for a Metallica LE but would also go for a Jimi pin. ACDC? Nup!
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And musos/bands too.
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Well I've deposited for a Metallica LE but would also go for a Jimi pin. ACDC? Nup!
Congrats mop le looks the goods for sure.
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Well I've deposited for a Metallica LE but would also go for a Jimi pin. ACDC? Nup!
Congrats mop le looks the goods for sure.
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Thanks man. Scary and exciting at the same time. Exciting that i've never bought a NIB before. Scary because I've never spent that much on a pin.
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Thanks man. Scary and exciting at the same time. Exciting that i've never bought a NIB before. Scary because I've never spent that much on a pin.
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Can't put a price on that feeling, the waiting, wondering and delivery. It's better than good, it's great!
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Well done hashman acdc was my first NIB and the wait kills you but once it's sitting infront of you ready to be opened is Awsome
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Thanks man. Scary and exciting at the same time. Exciting that i've never bought a NIB before. Scary because I've never spent that much on a pin.
Yep well done Dave! Nothing like opening your own NIB!
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I was thinking about an earlier comment I made about hoping that they have the full songs in the game.
They wouldn't have a list of the songs that are in it if they weren't going to play them in full would they?
I'm pretty sure that Stern didn't release what songs Rolling Stones was going to have in it.
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I was thinking about an earlier comment I made about hoping that they have the full songs in the game.
They wouldn't have a list of the songs that are in it if they weren't going to play them in full would they?
I'm pretty sure that Stern didn't release what songs Rolling Stones was going to have in it.
excellent point. *%*
would it matter if it was done the same as say ACDC. I mean the format works, the jukebox works, the radio in attract mode works, why not have the software identical to ACDC when it comes to the music side of things. If it aint broke, don't fix it.
I can sort of predict the future.lol
Its the same as ACDC - some complain
Its not the same as ACDC - some complain
Who wants it exactly like ACDC and who wants it totally not like ACDC and Why ?? !@#
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I think the full song format is EXCELLENT and hope it is carried over into Metallica.
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2nd premium photos just released, info from Pingame Journal
"April 18, 2013 - METALLICA "DONNY" PREMIUM VERSION RELEASED! After the server-crashing success of Metallica and the record setting sellout of the Master of Puppets limited edition, Stern has JUST released a SECOND premium version of the game.
The press release explanation of the game is below:
The initial release of Metallica pinball captured the attention of gamers and fans alike. Stern sold out of both the US and International allocations of its 500 Limited Edition (“LE”) games within an hour of each respective customer announcement.
The second Premium edition machine features the vibrant artwork of Dirty Donny Gillies and complement’s Stern’s Metallica LE, “Road Case” Premium and Pro models.
The new Premium edition Metallica game boasts the same action-packed features as the Road Case Premium model and highlights the addition of Dirty Donny’s radical pop art creations. Dirty Donny is considered one of the most influential artists in the pop culture scenes of underground rock, punk and heavy metal. He is widely known for his creative work on concert posters, album covers and vinyl toys.
“Stern Pinball has pulled out all the stops for the Metallica machines,” said Dirty Donny. “Creating artwork for this special release game has been awesome. I can’t wait to see people’s reactions when they take a first look at it and get to play the game.”
For a glimpse of the game in action, Stern Pinball will be showcasing the Metallica pinball machine at Comic-Con International in San Diego this year with Nuclear Blast Records.
The Metallica game continues both the Stern Pinball and the Stern family tradition of producing quality pinball machines for young and old. The company traces its lineage to Philadelphia in the 1930s when Sam Stern entered the business of operating pinball games. Sam Stern subsequently became part owner and president of Williams Manufacturing, a pioneer in the pinball industry. Sam passed his lifelong enthusiasm for the game and the business of pinball to his son Gary Stern who founded Stern Pinball. Today pinball remains one of America’s favorite pastimes. "
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Does anyone know how many LEs are coming to Australia?
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having trouble with the image
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and jut a bit of dirty donny art
great to see stern using a cool artist - though curious if donny did the art and stern vectorised it ????
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or do you go for the roadcase version and get the alternative premium translite
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Well guys, here's the zombie theme you've been craving for lol.
Wonder what impact this is going to make on the dealers today - more headaches for AMD on their allocations?
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Does anyone know how many LEs are coming to Australia?
I heard 69 Daniel
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Thanks Tony. I heard the same number might just be me being childish but I thought it was a funny number lol
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Nice choice hey
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It is a funny number. He he.
Not that I'm complaining. But....
I would have thought if the machine is that successful they would make another LE like with the ACDC machines (just more).
I just seems to me that Stern have underestimated the market and are doing themselves out of a fair bit of coin.
Don't you think asking for expressions of interest, to find out how many LE's are wanted as production starts, would be a better way to gauge how many LE's should be released?
I feel very lucky to have secured my machine but I'm sure there are quite a few people that will be missing out.
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It's good they didnt make more that's the point of limited edition.
Only 69 of us lucky buggers get to own one
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UPDATE
On Saturday May 11th, AMD Sydney will be holding a Product Launch for the Matallica Pinball models.
At this stage, I am not 100 percent sure if AMD will have all models, but the PRO model will definitely be on show to play.
People should keep a big look out at the AMD website and arrange with AMD to be included in the numbers for the Metallica Pinball Launch.
IF any person from AP is going to attend, PLEASE take a video camera, or at least your I.Phone to take a video, or a series of videos for us all.
http://www.amdcoinop.com/#!home/mainPage
Also, sign up to AMD's regular newsletter and monthly specials by filling in the details on the base of the AMD website, and that way, you will not miss any of the latest STERN Pinball News.
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Thank the stars Stern did a Premium in the Pro Cabinet design. Both the Pro and Premium translites look good.
AND you will be able to buy the Premium translites at a later stage to put into your Pro, or buy a Pro one to put in your Premium if u want to swap n play around for the fun of it.
The artwork for the Pro/Premium cabinet looks awesome. Purples n reds n yellows n blues. Perhaps the best Stern cabinet colours ever !
(click on photo)
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Does anyone know how many LEs are coming to Australia?
I heard 69 Daniel
I heard the same, this means Australia gets 14% of the MOP LE's ^^^
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It's good they didnt make more that's the point of limited edition.
Only 69 of us lucky buggers get to own one
Yes, of course I understand that, but it would still be a limited edition if they made say 600 or whatever the demand was, it just doesn't make business sense to me.
I am glad that they're making other versions of the Premium though, that is clever.
Metallica will be my first NIB and I can't wait. #*#
I can't believe how excited I am about this Pin. :D
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First nib you must be pumped ;)
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First nib you must be pumped ;)
Hell yeah!
I'm a Metallica fan from way back.
You always say things like "Wouldn't it be cool if they made a (insert cool themed game name) pinball?"
Well this was one of the ones I would go on about. :lol
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Does anyone know how many LEs are coming to Australia?
I heard 69 Daniel
Funny thing it that the number I got *%*
Must be more
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I wonder what numbers AMD got allocated for the LE machines. Did the numbers start at 50 or 100 or 150 etc ? !@#
If Stern produces 500 LE machines only, they guarantee themselves a quick 3.5 million dollars aprox - this recoups all their design and set up fees easily, and probably leaves them with a easy million or two in profit. Then, everything else they make is clear profit minus production costs etc.
In the past Stern has always said that it can cost up to 1 million dollars to bring a title to full production, so it looks like they are certainly extremely profitable at the moment with the LE, Premium and Pro models all bringing in a lot of coin for the company.
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UPDATE
Bruce will have 6 x Metallica Pro pinball machines at the AMD Metallica Pinball Product Launch.
The details will be sent out next week by AMD to everybody who is on the AMD email mailing list etc, and I will update the thread as well
as soon as the extra info becomes available.
Metallica Premium machines will be here mid to end July.
Pro machines before end June.
Avengers Premiums end of June.
Get your diary's ready for the Metallica Product Launch, Saturday 11th May in Sydney with AMD.
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Looks like a lot of the distributors in the US have had their allocations cut in half and in some cases even people who were paid up well in advance have had the bad news they can no longer get the LE. Seems very wrong, but maybe Metallica themselves are looking after people on the side so to say....
Metallica LE was always going to be popular. I know the premium is essentially the same game, but Stern could have easily sold 1000 LE's, so I wonder why they didn't cash in?
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Looks like a lot of the distributors in the US have had their allocations cut in half and in some cases even people who were paid up well in advance have had the bad news they can no longer get the LE. Seems very wrong, but maybe Metallica themselves are looking after people on the side so to say....
Metallica LE was always going to be popular. I know the premium is essentially the same game, but Stern could have easily sold 1000 LE's, so I wonder why they didn't cash in?
If you read into it on the U.S forums, it seems some dealers were taking money before they knew what numbers they were being allocated. People are screaming at Stern when they should be screaming at the person they bought it off.
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Looks like a lot of the distributors in the US have had their allocations cut in half and in some cases even people who were paid up well in advance have had the bad news they can no longer get the LE. Seems very wrong, but maybe Metallica themselves are looking after people on the side so to say....
Metallica LE was always going to be popular. I know the premium is essentially the same game, but Stern could have easily sold 1000 LE's, so I wonder why they didn't cash in?
The cases in the States seemed more like there were distributors that took pre-orders for Metallica LE's before they even knew the exact number that Stern was going to supply them . The distributors are blaming Stern for cutting back numbers ( which the distributor never had to start with ) .
If they made 1000 LE's then it defeats the purpose of having a Limited Edition machine . I know that at 1000 it is still "limited" but most of Stern's LE releases thus far have been a total number of 500 ( Tron was 400 ) . A lot of people buying the Metallica LE would be repeat LE buyers and if they go and double the amount made you would have a lot of disgruntled LE collectors as suddenly the LE name tag would not mean as much . The end result would be people NOT buying the LE on future releases , thus Stern would be shooting themselves in the foot to collect on the cash cow as Cavey mentioned above .
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As everyone says that is why they are limited editions only 500 made, it would be a sham, I mean shame *)* if stern cashed in on popularity.
Well done to the LE purchasers, at least your pins will keep their value for some time, and hopefully be worth more than the initial price if it is a ripper game *%*
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There is one point both Stern and the Pinball world need to consider which has not been raised before regarding LE numbers.
If the first LE release was say close to 500 numbers as an example, and that was 2 to 3 years ago, both Stern and the Pinball world need to understand that the target market of pinball machine buyers has grown considerably since the first LE was made.
Accordingly, now that the experienced pinball buying world, and the new pinball hobbyists have learnt about these LE machines, the allocated numbers haven't grown in proportion with the demand.
Therefore, you could raise the numbers to say 750 LE machines, and it still will not be anywhere near enough to satisy LE demand.
Stern, and its dealers, want to make sure that every single LE machine in the future isn't already SOLD OUT just 2 minutes after its technical release.
All this will do is piss people off, make dealers do under the table higher cash price deals well ahead of time, making people pay more off the books to be on the books, and make 2nd hand resale prices of the LE pinballs stupidly expensive. Pinball machines should be played and enjoyed, not bought to trade like currency which will only have multiple negative effects in the end for the whole hobby.
Should I now pay AMD a deposit for a LE Star Trek, 6 months ahead of its release so I dont miss out 3 minutes after its official Stern release ?
This also causes the price of Premiums to rise, and will do the same to the Pro product in the end. The success of the LE machine, might give every person in Stern marketing a swelled head, thus believing they can keep raising the prices. Big mistake I believe.....
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I think with the LE numbers it has to be considered that they aren't selling as fast as what is perceived. Yes Stern sell out to the dealers but alot of dealers still have alot of older stock some only just finally selling off the transformers LE's.
Just look at AMD, they still have both LE models of the X-Men and Avengers and of the Avengers there was only 12-13 total coming into Australia. Obviously theme has something to do with it in some cases but I think $ is the big thing. Hopefully AMD still have LE's available up to when the video comes out as that will seal the deal for some pinballers with the Metallica. Others like Metallica fans who are cashed up will just buy - which Stern have realised that the market is a different story with this pin as when you do a search on the net (Metallica Pinball) it's being advertised in everything metal music website, blog, music mags and anything related to Metallica so marketing on this one is like a massive freebie for Stern and it's timeless unlike a movie pin which is not really at the time of the movie unable to ride the coat tails of the world marketing of the movie release.
screen shot today of todat's availability of there machines in stock.
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According to a email I recently recieved, AMD have no more BNIB LE Avengers anymore. They had 1 x Only HULK LE demo model left a few weeks ago only.
I am not sure if it has since sold or not.
They have 1 x only X Men LE of each colour left only. 1 x Red 1 x Blue. That was a few weeks ago.
LE Transformers tanked everywhere because people bought the LE Decepticon or LE Autobots only LE models.
The Pro was successful, but the "Half n Half" LE was produced and Stern did admit they produced far too many, combine this with the fact that the
LE Transformers felt, looked and played like a Pro level game only, and this is why so many sat unsold at very high prices.
I think people spending a lot of money on the ACDC versions in Australia, around the time of the X Men release, probably did cause sales of the X Men titles to be a little slower than anticipated.
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AMD was updated a few days ago so very current. My point wasn't AMD having lots in stock it's the fact that they still have a LE of something 3-6 months after it comes into stock, and we are speculating that we need more LE's 2-3 months before a new pin release.
Point being I don't think you need a massive amount of LE's, keep it at 500 and keep that collector feel about a pin purchase and the Premium allows the LE play so everyone is happy. Though I do think for their business model it gets messy stock wise to have the 3 different cabinets, 4 different tranlites and imagine in 10 years time people will look back and say so what model was that.
Personally I believe every pin pro, premium and le all should have the same playfield/rules and just have
LE - unique cab, trans, trim, maybe some different playfield plastics, with a certificate and placard)
Pro - pro cab with the same game play of a LE.
Code would then be the same, meaning less work and the true collectors buy a LE
Anyway back to Metallica - lookin forward to a video.
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I agree the whole point of an LE should be 'Limited'. I'm in for Hobbit LE. I definitely think 1500 of them is not limited but it's not the primary reason I'm buying one.
I also agree the pricing and regular increases are not a good move, which I hope will change when Heighway and Spooky Pinball etc. get up and running.
Surely Stern would do some kind of market research and forecasting of quantities they believe will comfortably sell. Now this may sound a little speculative but, as a nominal average figure they sell around 2500 pins (all model versions) of a particular title/theme which included 250 LE's, then that's 10% being 'limited'. If a title is highly likely to do very well, then 750 or 1000 LE's may still only be 10% of the total for that titles release, still keeping the exclusivity there. Stern would be very confident Metallica will do well off the back of ACDC's success, thus isn't there less risk to increase the LE numbers a little?
Personally I believe every pin pro, premium and le all should have the same playfield/rules and just have
LE - unique cab, trans, trim, maybe some different playfield plastics, with a certificate and placard)
Pro - pro cab with the same game play of a LE.
Code would then be the same, meaning less work and the true collectors buy a LE
+1
I think one of the reasons Stern like to keep there LE runs small is that they have so many versions on offer, If LE numbers increased there is potential it wont be the most 'limited' version of a certain title if there is a flop title.
Anyway back to Metallica - lookin forward to a video.
Yes video please...
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I also agree the pricing and regular increases are not a good move, which I hope will change when Heighway and Spooky Pinball etc. get up and running.
Heighway's pricing is in and posted on that thread, Stern's will be better value but good news is Charlie from Spooky has a goal that the selling price is $4500 US so plus freight and taxes we are looking at $5500 to $6000 for a brand new machine with no LE versions - Ghost Squad starting production soon and Pinball Zombie starting around Oct all going well. Sorry bakc to Metallica - video please
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Metallic pins on the line behind the X-men pins.
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It looks as though these are the first dozen or two dozen test mule proto-type Metallica Pro machines, which they send out to high usage places like Timezone etc to make sure everything is OK, before the real first big production runs occur. (prototype games from Stern never have the yellow tournament buttons in them).
Its also great to see X Men machines still being built n pumping along. Cool photos !
The cabinet colours of the Metallica Pro looks great ! ^^^
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Nice way to spend your lunch break lol
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here is a rule card, fairly basic but hopefully a excellent and fun game to play especially with Lyman on the programming
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Nice way to spend your lunch break lol
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Probably the first ten ever built. Great photo from Stern. Thanks for posting Pete !
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Are these people from rent-a-crowd? The girl in white top has her bag slung over her shoulder so she definitely does not have a worker locker.
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.I did notice that as well . Some time ago, there was a video of Gary talking about getting in casuals, friends n family of line workers to play machines for an afternoon to sort out any issues. So prob the same deal here ?
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here is a rule card, fairly basic but hopefully a excellent and fun game to play especially with Lyman on the programming
Awwwww, the snake is "hungy". lol
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.I did notice that as well . Some time ago, there was a video of Gary talking about getting in casuals, friends n family of line workers to play machines for an afternoon to sort out any issues. So prob the same deal here ?
Machines are numbered so maybe they play test them and note any issues with machine number ? I'd do that for free lol, not long now bring on my machine :-)
Peter
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.I did notice that as well . Some time ago, there was a video of Gary talking about getting in casuals, friends n family of line workers to play machines for an afternoon to sort out any issues. So prob the same deal here ?
Machines are numbered so maybe they play test them and note any issues with machine number ? I'd do that for free lol, not long now bring on my machine :-)
Peter
I just turned the sound right down on AC/DC and put Metallica on the stereo....it's not the same......although For Whom the Bell Tolls does work with Hells Bells.
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More testing.
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now stand on your cardboard and GO
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now stand on your cardboard and GO
:lol
Yeah, what's all that about?
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Cost cutting. Rubber and carpet is expensive.
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they splashed on 1 or 2 machines - bubble and cardboard
at least it isn't a split screen, full screen score
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Jeez, if I was Stern I would have edited the cardboard out of the pics. Wouldn't take much to buy some of those rubber mats would it.
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Cost cutting. Rubber and carpet is expensive.
Ha ha I may have to get some bubble wrap :-)
Peter
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That's the left-over pizza boxes from Lunch ! %.%
I don't know, maybe its to stop them kicking their legs back and hitting Gary Stern in the groin as he walks past or something.
Maybe its a form of torture, listen to Metallica cranked up, and you aren't allowed to dance and u have to keep your feet flat on the ground.
Last person standing (boom boom), wins a pizza for lunch ! %.% @.@
Also, notice how both Stern Managers are down, hanging around the hot chick, and aren't even near any of the others. %.% *)*
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WHERE'S OUR VIDEO STERN?????
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WHERE'S OUR VIDEO STERN?????
Yeah, a gameplay video would create a 2nd wave of Tellica HYPE &&
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Yeah a video would be nice.
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Yeah a video would be nice.
I concur #@#
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I have written to John Borg - STERN and have politely asked when the Metallica video will be released... ^^^
I will update the thread when I receive a answer/possible likely release date.
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here is a message from borg and then a conflicting one on FB, especially when we know they were play testing 9 machines a week ago ????
maybe by the end of the week
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They may have the machines ready, but their video production team still have to professionally shoot the video and put the promo together.
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METALLICA UPDATE
As mentioned, I sent John Borg, game designer of Metallica from STERN a letter asking about when the video may be released.
Below is the response I received. I also note, John wrote back within only a few hours of my email which was great. John is certainly efficient and is always friendly when I send him a quick email from time to time. It would seem John will take a short vacation for a week or two, then the video will be filmed.
So, I expect the video to be aprox 3 weeks or more away realistically.
Johns response below >
Hello Brett
How are you doing ??? I am not sure of the date the company will release the game play video. I have been here every day for the past three weeks finishing and tweaking the game. I seriously need a short vacation. I would imagine the video will be made upon my return. We did one of the early videos (Iron Man) with a out of house narrator. I’d prefer to do it myself but will depend upon when I vacation and marketing timing of the video release.
I’ll see if I can get Jody Dakenberg to release some snippets of things like the Electric Chair Multi-ball start and Hammer locking balls and such.
I would have to say this has been the cleanest game start up we have ever had.
Game looks great and works great. I’m very happy.
Best regards,
John
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METALLICA UPDATE
As mentioned, I sent John Borg, game designer of Metallica from STERN a letter asking about when the video may be released.
Below is the response I received. I also note, John wrote back within only a few hours of my email which was great. John is certainly efficient and is always friendly when I send him a quick email from time to time. It would seem John will take a short vacation for a week or two, then the video will be filmed.
So, I expect the video to be aprox 3 weeks or more away realistically.
Johns response below >
Hello Brett
How are you doing ??? I am not sure of the date the company will release the game play video. I have been here every day for the past three weeks finishing and tweaking the game. I seriously need a short vacation. I would imagine the video will be made upon my return. We did one of the early videos (Iron Man) with a out of house narrator. I’d prefer to do it myself but will depend upon when I vacation and marketing timing of the video release.
I’ll see if I can get Jody Dakenberg to release some snippets of things like the Electric Chair Multi-ball start and Hammer locking balls and such.
I would have to say this has been the cleanest game start up we have ever had.
Game looks great and works great. I’m very happy.
Best regards,
John
Cheers Brett for the update hope they release little snippets like John mentioned while we wait for the full video :-)
Peter
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Latest photo from STERN re Metallica !
John Borg in the cap, George Gomez with black hair facing the camera and Lonnie Ropp with his back to the camera talking
about a Metallica Pro game on the production line.
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a guy on pinside posted his thoughts on playing the game at the factory today, so below are snipets to what he thougth, though maybe a little out of context with the other peoples questions but gives you a good idea for now:
- Great shooting pin. I think everyone will be impressed with the toys in the PRO model. Not such a huge deal between versions. Love the inline drops. There's also a cool shot behind the fuel stand ups I didn't notice before. Music is great. Voice call outs are cool. I really think they'll end up selling lots of pros on this one. Fast/in your face play.
- motorized grave marker is cool but wouldnt really effect gameplay at all. At least not that I'm aware of.
Snake is on the pro but the LE/Premium will do cooler things with the snake.
Fuel bar is no big difference really from what I understand.
The hammer is a big feature on the LE that isnt on the pro at all.
Again, software is early, according to Lyman, but was fun.
My main point was if you cant afford a premium the pro is a blast and really feels full-featured vs feeling like a stripped down model.
- Pretty cool and stackable. I had at least two multiballs going at once. Maybe three (not sure about that though.) You choose music before ball launch as I recall. I stacked multiballs and had a bast.
- fulls songs I believe. I was having too much fun to be super analytical about it. =)
- The premium road case graphics are actually really cool. The translite was ok. I would much prefer the second premium dirty donny translate.
and for those that go to pinside, you can find the full thread here
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/played-metallica-pro-today
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He seems to be very very light on details about when he went to Stern, who let him in, who he arranged to play the Metallica machines with,
how long he was there for, what specific machine he played and where in the factory it was, no photos, glass on or glass off, volume loudness of
machine, who he thanked when he left, and every other detailed thing u would add to a real life visit to Stern. I could have said all that just by reading the Stern brochure.lol
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it might be a case of here's a rare chance and a little overwhelming and get into it, and sure they wouldn't allow cameras etc - better than nothing I say
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I would want alot more details/proof personally.
Anyway, I am sure Stern will release more n more good stuff as the days/weeks tick by.
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Brett you posted somewhere but I can not find the post that AMD are having a launch party on the 11th of May for Metallica. I can ring Bruce tomorrow however do you have any detail?
thx
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11th May between 11am and 12PM at AMD - incl BBQ and 6 x Pro machines ^^^
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a guy on pinside posted his thoughts on playing the game at the factory today, so below are snipets to what he thougth, though maybe a little out of context with the other peoples questions but gives you a good idea for now:
- Great shooting pin. I think everyone will be impressed with the toys in the PRO model. Not such a huge deal between versions. Love the inline drops. There's also a cool shot behind the fuel stand ups I didn't notice before. Music is great. Voice call outs are cool. I really think they'll end up selling lots of pros on this one. Fast/in your face play.
- motorized grave marker is cool but wouldnt really effect gameplay at all. At least not that I'm aware of.
Snake is on the pro but the LE/Premium will do cooler things with the snake.
Fuel bar is no big difference really from what I understand.
The hammer is a big feature on the LE that isnt on the pro at all.
Again, software is early, according to Lyman, but was fun.
My main point was if you cant afford a premium the pro is a blast and really feels full-featured vs feeling like a stripped down model.
- Pretty cool and stackable. I had at least two multiballs going at once. Maybe three (not sure about that though.) You choose music before ball launch as I recall. I stacked multiballs and had a bast.
- fulls songs I believe. I was having too much fun to be super analytical about it. =)
- The premium road case graphics are actually really cool. The translite was ok. I would much prefer the second premium dirty donny translate.
and for those that go to pinside, you can find the full thread here
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/played-metallica-pro-today
Sounds good, if this game plays half as well as it looks it will be killer.
Thanks for posting.
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anybody here going on 11 May to AMD for the Metallica Pinball launch ? !@#
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for the meantime here is a cool video about the artist dirty donnie
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11th May between 11am and 12PM at AMD - incl BBQ and 6 x Pro machines ^^^
Its actually 10am to 12pm and you have to register with AMD by 3rd May.
I would love to attend but have other commitments. !!!
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I think u are correct about 10 am. I was going from memory cause I couldn't find my original AMD email. @.@
You can still turn up for the Metallica launch if u don't register by 3 May,(although its preferable) you just have to ring the guys at AMD before the day and let them know u are attending.
If any AP member attends, please don't forget photos or a quick video ! and hope u have a great time, should be a lot of fun for sure ^^^
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A few pictures from Sterns facebook page.
A couple of very lucky kids who had the chance to play Metallica with John Borg ! What a great time they would have had.
Also, a local engineering school had the chance to play all the machines in the Stern Arcade as well.
Photos below >
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a few more photos
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for the meantime here is a cool video about the artist dirty donnie
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Cool vid thanks for posting swinks
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for the meantime here is a cool video about the artist dirty donnie
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Cool vid thanks for posting swinks
Dam I thought it was a game play video lol
Peter
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I looked up
John Borgs
Steve Ritchies
George Gomezs
Jody Dakenbergs
Gary Sterns
FaceBook pages, and looked over them for a few hours I had spare, and got to read n see some really cool photos and things about these guys.
John Borg is a champion BMX bike racer
Steve Ritchie still likes his muscle cars and still rides his Moto X bikes
and so on
and so on
and so on
Something to do whilst waiting for the Metallica video and for Borgy to have his well deserved vacation !
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I looked up
John Borgs
Steve Ritchies
George Gomezs
Jody Dakenbergs
Gary Sterns
FaceBook pages, and looked over them for a few hours I had spare, and got to read n see some really cool photos and things about these guys.
John Borg is a champion BMX bike racer
Steve Ritchie still likes his muscle cars and still rides his Moto X bikes
and so on
and so on
and so on
Something to do whilst waiting for the Metallica video and for Borgy to have his well deserved vacation !
You had a couple of hours free time to stalk people on Facebook lol. You need another hobby dude hahaha
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What actually happened, is I got a friend request from one of the Stern guys out of the blue after sending a email and I accepted it. Then I could quickly
see that they had all the pinball greats on their page, so the info just appeared ready to read in my email inbox. I didn't even have to go looking, and I couldn't sleep, and it was at 2am in the morning. Sometimes the pinball info gifts just appear.lol I just upgraded my email server, and it auto links facebook, twitter and various other accounts automatically, which is how they saw my facebook page I think etc which is why I got the request.
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rumours are possibly a teaser gameplay video today
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Stern is supposedly showing off the pin on some online award show, streaming on this website tonight: http://www.axs.tv
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rumours are possibly a teaser gameplay video today
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Stern is supposedly showing off the pin on some online award show, streaming on this website tonight: http://www.axs.tv
Fingers crossed cheers for posting Jady.
Peter
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in addition a distributor in the US is getting one today US time and siting tomorrow so a video will turn up from him as well - so we should definitely see something this weekend, it will just be the quality of video that will be shown off to the world.
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Yeah, I reckon Stern will want something professional out there before dodgy smartphone video of the game, but who knows?
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in addition a distributor in the US is getting one today US time and siting tomorrow so a video will turn up from him as well - so we should definitely see something this weekend, it will just be the quality of video that will be shown off to the world.
I'M GETTING EXCITED :-)
Peter :-)
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Yeah, I reckon Stern will want something professional out there before dodgy smartphone video of the game, but who knows?
I'm happy with dodgy smart phone video Adam lol
Peter
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Stern was 2 weeks behind with the Avengers pro, so you would think they would learn and not do it again and launch a vid tonight our time to re-hype everything, make some more sales, and it is just better marketing than relying on smartphone vids with peoples opinions based on what is portrayed
must say I am not into Metallica but this does look like a nice player
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A little birdie from the USA who is very close to the production of the Metallica Pinball, told me, that the Metallica Pro game, and first proto-types and information on the Stern site and everything we have seen to date, was brought forward 6 weeks to beat another manufacturers release date and to get the publicity.
So, in effect Stern isn't behind, they are actually running in advance of the original real dates. Re Avengers being 2 weeks behind ???, in the pinball world, that is nothing, compared to others being years behind so to speak. I think you will find that Stern will be doing everything properly with Metallica, rather than rushing it out the door. When I asked Borgy about the release of the video, and he mentioned he was going to ask Jody Dakenberg to try n do some teaser videos, I thought it would be a dream come true if he could do that on such short notice. If that comes off, it just goes to show how quickly Stern can respond to its customer base, and its a good sign that they really care about keeping the hoards happy.
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To better clarify the Avengers pro was sent out and sited about 2 weeks before the gameplay video was released.
I just think it would be beneficial for them to release a game play video before sending the game to distributors - would help in sales and keep the hype going.
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I get ya now. Maybe Stern does it this way so u rush into a Stern Dealer and check out the real machine in the flesh, in the hope u don't miss out
on a game (espescially LE's). ??? !@#
Then they add the video a few weeks or month later when all the LE models have been snapped up. Hence, the video release is usually the Pro first, then the LE later on again. Probably just clever marketing if it makes people jump in. But yes, videos upfront quicker would be nicer.
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code up for those getting it - so AMD could benefit from this during the week.
http://www.sternpinball.com/downloads/MTL103.zip
PRO code v1.03 now live - 67mb, so a large one
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Gary giving the workforce a chat,
- looks like they are being filmed as well
- notice the one red shirt (Star Trek rebel)
- and don't forget the bank of 12 microwaves on the back wall - made me laugh one person probably thought bugger the talk I'm hungry
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Is the guy on the left the Mexican translator?? !^!
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first vid out and you don't need to be a facebook user, looks good, a few call outs, sound of music is hard to tell due to sited background noise, dots look good
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10200466159009479&l=186291838965888320
also because of the update release some people are already downloading and playing on pinmame at home
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a youtube video of the dots and sounds via pinmame
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another video via facebook but anyone can hit the link and watch - this one is the latest code V1.03
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10200466229651245&l=2751163551336606741
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first vid out and you don't need to be a facebook user, looks good, a few call outs, sound of music is hard to tell due to sited background noise, dots look good
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10200466159009479&l=186291838965888320
also because of the update release some people are already downloading and playing on pinmame at home
here is the Youtube link to this video now
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the guy (Pinsider LesManley) who posted the video said:
"So far there is grave marker, snake, electric chair and coffin multiball.
There is lots of left ramp, right ramp flow. There is an up post that stops all orbit shots which is a little weird."
the up post could be like in IM, another Borg design and possibly new code will change that
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Cool video great light show and "sparky" goes off cheers for posting.
Peter @@*
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some more comments about gameplay:
"You pick songs at the start of the ball via a radio graphic on the DMD. Nothing to shot for like a jukebox to change songs that I can tell so far.
Fuel meter looks like double scoring. Combos are there. Mystery award is almost always 500,000 right now.
Right ramp is steep like IM, but it wiggles at the end if it comes back down, so you don't get any STDM. Ramps are smooth if you hit them solid.
It only stops orbits if the shot isn't lit, if it is lit, it goes around. Skill shot is like IM though with the up post and roll overs continue down to the inlanes by the flippers the same way.
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Oh, I definitely want a Metallica Pro. I'll obsess over it for months a la Wayne Campbell in Wayne's World. "It will be mine. Oh yes, it will be mine....."
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Looks interesting, look forward to more videos. Visually I think it could be the best so far of the stern new releases, game wise I'm still watching before a final comment. Btw I'm no Metallica fan but I'm not playing the band so that won't effect my thoughts
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Thanks for the informative updates Swinks! Looks promising
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Looks cool and sounds cool, look forward to some more gameplay vids, can't wait to see the hammer smash ball lock on the LE and Premium *%*
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Thanks for the informative updates Swinks! Looks promising
Yes, enjoying the stuff you are uncovering, thanks for keeping us up to date.
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Thanks for posting Jady. Perhaps Stern are waiting for a LE/Premium to be made to do their officical video on?
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Thanks for posting Jady. Perhaps Stern are waiting for a LE/Premium to be made to do their officical video on?
You are prob right Tony, better marketing your top model with all the features than a base model
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lots of videos:
video 3
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video 4
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video 5 - not too good
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video 6 - nailing a four ramp shots in 10 seconds - they play fast
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video 7
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video 8
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video 9 - lighting sparky and sparky dots
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Video 11
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Video 12
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Video 14
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Video 15
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Video 16 - fuzzes out, so average
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Video 17
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LesManley from Pinside that did all the vids gave this little overview
"Here are some initial thoughts and observations. I will add to my original post on these as I think of more things...
Ok so here are my initial thoughts and stuff we figured out. There were 6 people there and I only played 6 or 7 games, so there is a lot to figure out still. It had an external sub on it and sounded awesome, what I could hear over the noise in the bar. Game has an adult mode, and I heard the announcer say, "How do you like that shit?" after hitting a good shot. I like the game, kinda like Iron Man with more going on. Has a lot of flow when you get it going with the ramps, orbits and "meg" shot on the left. Only things that stop the ball are mystery award scoop and snake for a second, it kicks it right back out. You pick a song on ball 1, choice doesn't seem to affect rules yet. Song changes as you do different things during the game. Standups are fast, and if you miss it comes back quick like drone targets in IM. Right ramp is very IMish, but no SDTM off it. Sparky would be like Iron Monger, grave is like War Machine and Snake is like Whiplash for multiballs. The hammer will be very cool in the LE, you can tell how that is going to work. That part is all virtual on the Pro, with green lock lights shinning through the coffin beneath the playfield where the physical balls will be in the LE/Premium. Right now the game is all multiball, if you are not in one, you aren't scoring many points.
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On the plunge, up post pops up for an easy skill shot, 250,000.
Pops build points up for the 4 different symbols and have a count down on each. Not sure of the significance yet.
15 captive ball shots to light extra ball at mystery award shot, then 100 for the next EB.
There is a nice "Meg" shot just like from Family Guy on the left hand side that integrates nicely for combos.
Outlanes are brutal. Come all the way open, only two slots to choose from to close them down.
Combos are integrated.
Bonus adds up the shots to each of the 4 symbols.
Bonus multiplier does not seem to be integrated.
Rollovers light mystery award shot
Rollovers continue down from pops to inlanes like in IM
Mystery award shot always gives 500k or "Add fuel" (Start multiball and light lock show up as choices)
F-U-E-L meter is for double scoring and can be extended, think the bell in AC/DC. Lit shots add a little fuel to the meter until it is full.
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Multiballs: (Mystery award didn't award add-a-ball yet)
Grave- (2 ball) Knock down the sequential drops and hit the cross twice. This does not carry over from ball to ball, so you have to do it all on one ball. Magnet holds ball for MB start.
Snake- Spell S-N-A-K-E. Each shot to the snake mouth awards one letter, light it and shoot to start.
Electric Chair- (4 ball) So many shots to the electric chair lights and then one more to start. Great intro! Lights everything for jackpots and then hit the chair again for super. Magnet holds ball for MB start.
Coffin- Light lock, then hit captive ball to virtual lock the ball. 3 balls virtually locked to start multiball."
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probably already up but...
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Cant wait for the Stern videos too.
Metallica is looking awesome !
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Not bad. I'll wait and play one before I decide if i'll be buying one. Searching for a nice GnR is #1 for me even before I consider Metallica.
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Videos look great, thanks for posting...not much of a tough time deciding if I should buy one or not, looks and sounds so much better than that last shamozzlle...and I don't even like the band and I still want one...wtf!!!!.............FUK IT!!.....I am going to grab one of these f**kers!
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Videos look great, thanks for posting...not much of a tough time deciding if I should buy one or not, looks and sounds so much better than that last shamozzlle...and I don't even like the band and I still want one...wtf!!!!.............FUK IT!!.....I am going to grab one of these f**kers!
Without playing it first ?
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Here are the missing videos - 10 & 13
Video 10:
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Video 13: shows the cross magnet and the sparky magnet and the snake extra ball dots
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also another guy took a heap of photos so here is his link (the last photo is a stitch up trying to show the full playfield)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/mnhotrods/sets/72157633418729748/show/
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Videos look great, thanks for posting...not much of a tough time deciding if I should buy one or not, looks and sounds so much better than that last shamozzlle...and I don't even like the band and I still want one...wtf!!!!.............FUK IT!!.....I am going to grab one of these f**kers!
Without playing it first ?
Yeah and keep it in the box, best looking band pin by a mile, leaves those other boat anchors for dead ....15k by xmas!!!!!
FUK YEAH!!
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it looks great art wise ^^^,
it looks to play great ^^^,
the dots look great ^^^,
unfortunately after watching the last 2 posted videos, since I am not a Metallica fan I just couldn't do it for long and it isn't a family pin - but man it looks awesome
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A family pin?
Bugger the family they can get their own games!
Start savin ya pocketmoney kids!
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Videos look great, thanks for posting...not much of a tough time deciding if I should buy one or not, looks and sounds so much better than that last shamozzlle...and I don't even like the band and I still want one...wtf!!!!.............FUK IT!!.....I am going to grab one of these f**kers!
Without playing it first ?
Yeah and keep it in the box, best looking band pin by a mile, leaves those other boat anchors for dead ....15k by xmas!!!!!
FUK YEAH!!
Heck, never thought Mr Marvel would have purchased a band themed pin *.*
Congrats Daz
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He hasn't purchased it yet lol :-)
Peter
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And he isn't about to purchase one anytime soon either.
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To give you a idea of what is in the game, radio mode etc
some of the FEATURE adjustments in Metallica 1.03 with factory default in brackets.
1. Adult Content (yes)
2. Insult Level (high)
3. Mystery difficulty (medium)
4. Grave marker starting hits (2)
5. Grave marker addt'l hits (1)
6. Elec chair starting hits (10)
7. Elec chair addt'l hits (3)
8. Snake starting letter (0)
9. Snake addt'l letters (-1)
10. Snake start shots lit (3)
11. Snake start shots for snake lit (1)
12. Snake addt'l shots for snake lit (1)
13. Shot features carryover ball to ball (no)
14. Shot features reset w/ part. lit (no)
15. 1st captive ball EB (auto)
16. 2nd captive ball eb every (100)
17. 1st combo ex ball (25)
18. 2nd combo ex ball ever (100)
19. combo jackpot lit every (20)
20. 2x scoring timer (20)
21. band member start tgt compl. (2)
22. band member addl. tgt. compl. (1)
23. Coffin lock lit tgt compl, (3)
24. Starting Fuel Level (2)
25. Additional Fuel Level (-1)
26. Fuel mode timer (40)
27. One mode timer (40)
28. Coffin MB autofire timer (20 sec)
29. Cross MB autofire timer (10 sec)
30. Grave marker MG Starting shots (5)
31. Grave marker MG addl. hits (1)
32. Elec chair MB autofire timer (15 sec)
33. Snake MB autofire timer (20 sec)
34. E.O.L Starting grave markers (50)
35. E.O.L Additional Grave markers (10)
36. E.O.L Starting Electric chairs (50)
37. E.O.L Additional Electric chairs (10)
38. E.O.L Starting coffins (50)
39. E.O.L Additional coffins (10)
40. E.O.L starting snakes (50)
41. E.O.L Additional snakes (10)
42. E.O.L MB autofire timer (20 sec)
43. Instructional Speech (yes)
44. Disable Grave marker magnet (no)
45. Disable Electric chair magnet (no)
46. Disable Electric chair coil (no)
47. Disable loop diverter (no)
48. Disable inline drop targets (no)
49. Combo champion (20)
50. Combo champion award (credit)
51. Combo champion awards (0)
52. Shaker Motor [optional] (Maximal Use)
53. Abort Animations (one)
54. Attract mode Radio (no)
55. Music volume (0)
56. Speech volume (0)
57. General Illumination Intensity (50)
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James likes the pin ^^^
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word is Media House is shooting the video today for Pro with full Lyman gameplay.
With editing we should hopefully see it by weeks end.
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first song selection
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So far this games looking good :-)
Peter
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Should have mine in the next 2 weeks #@#
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congrats Wotto, will be interested to hear your thoughts
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Should have mine in the next 2 weeks #@#
Awesome well done :-)
Peter
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WOTTO,
Are you going to AMD on Saturday?
Chris
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Hoping an AP member is going to AMD this saturday for the Metallica Launch Party, photo's a must *%*
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I will be there, travelling over from Perth. That is the good bit, the bad news is that I suck as a photographer
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Very keen in seeing the true promo and especially seeing the game explained. One criticism but it might be me not looking real hard but I have found the stern promo by the designer is way too short. I hope this one goes for 10mins at least so I can drool over the game.
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WOTTO,
Are you going to AMD on Saturday?
Chris
Hi Chris
No I cant make it thee unfortunately !!!
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No worries.
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Flyer
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/08/ymapubu3.jpg)
Peter
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Gotta say it again, that is one sweet looking game #.#
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That is seriously one excellent looking pinball.
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Playing an Acdc and avengers today at work and they have nothing in comparison to Metallica.
Can't wait for mine to arrive
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Playing an Acdc and avengers today at work and they have nothing in comparison to Metallica.
Can't wait for mine to arrive
Good review! You wouldn't want the three to be carbon copies of each other, would you?
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That is seriously one excellent looking pinball.
I agree its awesome looking I just hope Lyman gives it a nice deep rule set like acdc.
Peter
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On the Stern site they say this
World’s Leading Maker of Arcade Quality Pinball Announces Newest Addition to Rock and Roll Collection
Does that infer there might be a string/collection of music pinnys ?
I wonder if Stern will do another music theme if Metallica is like ACDC and gets good long production.....??
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Justin Bieber? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Maybe the next pin is a combined action music pin - Star Trek - Greatest in the Galaxy %.% ^.^
check the girl playing the bicycle rim
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Metallica-Master-of-Puppets-Limited-Edition-Pinball-Machine-/321122336712?pt=AU_CoinOp&hash=item4ac461ffc8
Looks like the MOPs aren't sold out after all. #@#
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Stern's gameplay video....tonight you think?
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http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Metallica-Master-of-Puppets-Limited-Edition-Pinball-Machine-/321122336712?pt=AU_CoinOp&hash=item4ac461ffc8
Looks like the MOPs aren't sold out after all. #@#
They are from AMD
And they haven't arrived in the country yet ()
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Awesome video cant wait.
Peter
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Another. Way longer and snake multiball, gravestone multiball, and justice for All, then Sparky!
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Any updates on the METALLICA Pro arrival at Timezone Gold Coast???
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Any updates on the METALLICA Pro arrival at Timezone Gold Coast???
They are being shipped early next week so maybe next weekend if we are lucky
And they are getting two of them, oh yeah!
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looks good, like the call outs
here's GAP's first vid
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With the pricing on Stern pins, how long can AMD keep the current price firm?
Last May in the ACDC thread, I predicted that the Aussie $ will drop to 70c US this year.The way things are heading, my crystal ball gazing may prove me correct. The question on how many Metallicas will sell in Oz will be determined by what price will they sell for?
I am sure they will not stay at the current price if the dollar keeps heading south. The price sweet spot for NIBs may be disappearing fast unless Sterns are made in China or locally assembled.
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Ya gotta admit - this looks pretty damn good so far from the videos made available.
Dots look great.
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Yep.. game looks like a blast and the animations in the DMD really suit the game.. Dirty Donny's artwork really lifts the game.. my guess is Hetfield and Co insisted on it after the great work Donnie and Kraus did with the first Metallica.
I do wish though that Stern would release the bumpers and take them out of the enclosures they house them in.. pop bumper randomness is a key element to pinball for me.. if the release of the ball is controlled then i dont really see any need for them other than some nostalgic token gesture as they now epitomise pinball.
Release the bumpers Stern.. if any game should have had this, then really, this is it.
Going to be a massive seller for Stern... take note JJP!!
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Looking forward to some games down at Time Zone when the pro model arrives. Hopefully the sound
will be turned up enough.
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Don't take this the wrong way as I am the biggest Metallica fan, I have all their CDs, DVDs saw them twice last time they were out here, they rock, and hats off to Stern for making the game, but... I am unsure about the way their songs are implemented into the game.
The way you select it at the start of the game and the same song restarts at the start of each ball and after each multiball song, would really shit me after awhile, especially if I picked 'for whom the bell tolls' with my quick ball times all I'd hear is bells. :lol
I hope it is changed with further software updates, either pick a different song each ball, of fade out then fade back in at the same position in the song after losing the ball and starting the next.
Agree with everything else, dots look great, artwork is awesome, love the speaker lighting.
Can't freaking wait to see that hammer pound the balls down into that coffin *%*
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Looks absolute crap, hate the graphics, game play looks boring, music is shit and its made by stern.
Now before you 'ignore me' I'm only saying this cuz I can't have one !!!
Here is a game I think I'd really like and I'm no Metallica fan at all. The light show seems to fit the songs and the toys look like they belong. I do hope stern don't just go the music theme pin after pin, but then if they did a Justin B. Game that was absolutely mind blowing I guess the theme is then secondary.........umm maybe not. But you know what I mean. If the next is a great game and is another music theme, well who cares, better than say a lame playing trekkie or star wars or zombie game. Pinball should be good to look at but ultimately a blast to play.
Congrats to the guys who have a metallica coming
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Reports are dribbling out from the AMD 'launch' morning that this game is pretty much KILLER ^^^
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I usually fly down to all the Launch Parties and take photos n videos, but thought I would let someone else from the forum get some kudos for being the reporter on the spot this time round to keep everyone happy.
I hope this Metallica model gets made for quite some time to come, like ACDC has been, so everyone has a decent chance of being able to buy one brand new in box if that's what they want.
I am hoping Chillie takes some photos or a video, or whoever else from AP is going can. Shouldn't be long for more cool videos and photos.
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Is there any mode based gameplay on this machine or is it the same old music themed pin?
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I wish I could post some pictures but as I said earlier in the thread I am a terrible with a camera.
The game is a dead set stunner. Enjoyable to play great sound bites, music and sparky multivalve is awesome.
Big call here but the game feels like it has all that one needs. The LE will have some more features but will need to wait and see.
Big thanks to the Sydney crowd, great hospitality.
Chris (perth)
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Thanks for the report chilli and that's only the pro can't bloody wait for mine to arrive cant wait to see this hammer in action
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Me to come on guys how did it play fast?? Slow??
Peter
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Yeah, I just thought we were a bunch of people standing in a corridor shooting the breeze before more information from the AMD BBQ was released and an official video from Stern. World economics interest me re: Metallica as I am planning to buy one in 7-10 monts time and wondering what prices will be like then.
Back on track, here's a photo I lifted from Pinside. It makes me feel all warm inside about this machine. Sadly, I won't be getting one out of the first batch.
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video by GAP with glass off, so no glare
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Thanks for video lol :-)
Peter
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same video %.%
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here is another new video from GAP - glass off, playing game in the dark and different song - somehow the song playing makes it seem slow
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Needs more code the call outs are horrible, I always wondered how Metallica would go with pinball.
Peter
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Needs more code the call outs are horrible, I always wondered how Metallica would go with pinball.
Peter
Yeah I agree with the call outs, hopefully they will improve over time. The game also needs some cool modes in the code imo to stand it apart from other band pins.
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I found that music relaxing actually, then if u get a faster song, it amps u up more etc and mixes things up.
Its early days with the code, much like ACDC was, then the updates with code just keep coming which will make it better n better.
Loving the sparky toy and the snake head plus all the DMD annimations. Going to be a great machine I reckon for sure.
Anyone else decided to buy one in any form, Pro, Premium 1 or 2, LE etc ? !@#
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Pro is in the ute right now and I leave work in 30 minutes #@#
I was advised there is code being released mostly every Tuesday up ahead ( not sure how accurate that will be ) but the game 'feels good' to play at the moment - obviously no-one knows how 'developed' the code is or isnt at this very early stage. I love code updates and they can do as many as they like , for as long as it takes IMO.
Overall it looks killer and I hope it will be a very good game.
It's amazing how music can ADD to a game - I threw on Seek and Destory for one game and it just felt excellent to play along with.
Apparently 100% of the Saturday players at AMD gave it an almighty thumbs up - including some of the better competitive players here in Sydney.
I think the LE will be something VERY special
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Enjoy Wotto, you are going to have fun tonight ^^^ #*# $#$
With Saturday's session I saw RGR post on pinside that it was the best music pin ever and best Stern game since LOTR
https://www.facebook.com/AustralianPinballLeague?fref=ts
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Enjoy Wotto, you are going to have fun tonight ^^^ #*# $#$
But the Season final of survivor is on - WHAT a dilemma :lol
No I aint joking - #@#
With Saturday's session I saw RGR post on pinside that it was the best music pin ever and best Stern game since LOTR
https://www.facebook.com/AustralianPinballLeague?fref=ts
I saw that too and thought it was an almighty call to make early , but he is the number 1 ranked player in Oz and has a LOT of gameplay on a load of games under his belt so I took it as a VERY good sign
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Well done Wotto.
Cant wait to see your Metallica photos n videos ! ^^^
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I'll wait and play one in person at TZ before I decide if i'll buy one.
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Spoke with Michael at AMD this arvo regarding some parts and he told me that Saturday's launch went well with over 100 people sampling tthe new pin.
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Hey Wotto, how was survivor %.%, interested to hear your thoughts on the game play.
Any chance you can post a scan of the playfield from the manual to help us get a feel for the playfield design who are interested.
cheers
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Spoke with Michael at AMD this arvo regarding some parts and he told me that Saturday's launch went well with over 100 people sampling tthe new pin.
Wow great turn out.
Peter
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Hahahaha – Survivor – as usual – was CRACKING !
And the person I wanted to win – did ( no spoilers here )
Initial thoughts – Good and “not so good as yet”........bear in mind I have played around 20 games so far – thats all
The Good ( and some of this has already been stated around the planet so excuse me repeating anything )
The ramps feel excellent ( in regards to shooting ) and obviously help to make the game feel flowy.
There is a sweet orbit shot that MAY (?) run both ways ( more on this in the ‘not so good as yet” observations later however )
There are combos already available from ramps ( and I think the orbit )
The artwork is fantastic, colourful and PLENTIFUL.
Cabinet artwork appears to be very decent quality as well
The model, character of Sparky is outstanding and appears to be very decent quality – the already reported good lightshow and ‘other thing that happens’ for the start of Sparky Multiball IS very good
Some of the shots are tighter than what they appear to be in images seen so far – I will explain.....It appears that Sparky is SIMPLE to hit when you look at PF images, however from the right flipper it feels tight , it isn’t SUPER TOUGH , just not AS easy as images make it appear.
The shot to Snake isn’t as easy as it looks and you need to nail the shot for the ball to stay in there – the ‘whiplash’ effect out is very fast.
A shot into the Mystery hole starts an animation and you can get the ball out of the hole quickly using the flippers if you don’t want to wait.
The animations are very very good as have been seen many times on the internet already.
LOVING the inline drops, as I am sure many others will – you have to drop them and then hit the cross twice which then locks the ball for 2 ball multiball – wondering how a RED led would look in the cross already.
Love the location of the nearly impossible to hit FUEL target on the farmost left that returns to the left inlanes.
The LEFT outlane is TOUGH and a drainer ( could adjust this )
There is plenty of various Multiball available
The ‘Not so good as yet”
On a game that has GREAT artwork – they left a big bank white ‘coffin’ in the middle of the playfield where the coffin lights are ( I know this is only on the PRO and thats what I bought , it just looks ‘strange’ amongst all the great artwork) – SURELY they could have put a decent decal in this location.
The top divertor post that is UP when the ball is launched is fine for ball launch and forces the ball back into the top lanes – great – HOWEVER........it tends to STAY UP in general gameplay and when you shoot a LEFT orbit the ball hits the UP post and dribbles back down the left side of the game ...........I am advised this should change in code updates. You can turn it off in settings but it makes it difficult to get the ball to stop up at the top lanes if you do that.
Sparky’s voice – I am 100% sure this could and will annoy people – it is VERY high pitched and ‘screechy’ – but is does suit the little dude somehow.
Unknown if good or bad at this stage.
The band member voices – I am OK with them , but wonder if in time I will tire of being told ‘great frickin shot’ – unsure.
Again this could be possibly turned off in the settings as I saw a setting where you could turn some voices off ( or similar – I could be mistaken )
The music – you start with a song of your choice and play the game with THAT song playing , as you achieve different multiballs the song changes into the song for that Multiball, then once drained and back to one ball the game reverts to the song you chose originally, I am unsure if you will be able to change songs somehow via choice or via an award down the track a little.
That’s about all I have for now – I wont be home tonight and have a busy week ahead so may not get any decent time on it until Sunday at this stage to be honest.
Overall it appears to be exactly what people are saying – a VEY VERY good ‘package’ and value for money.
I believe the LE version of this game will be absolutely outstanding.
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The music – you start with a song of your choice and play the game with THAT song playing , as you achieve different multiballs the song changes into the song for that Multiball, then once drained and back to one ball the game reverts to the song you chose originally, I am unsure if you will be able to change songs somehow via choice or via an award down the track a little.
After viewing some videos of late, i found this to be quite irritating - i guess that's what's expected for a music pinnie?
Thanks for the write up Wotto.
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The music – you start with a song of your choice and play the game with THAT song playing , as you achieve different multiballs the song changes into the song for that Multiball, then once drained and back to one ball the game reverts to the song you chose originally, I am unsure if you will be able to change songs somehow via choice or via an award down the track a little.
After viewing some videos of late, i found this to be quite irritating - i guess that's what's expected for a music pinnie?
Thanks for the write up Wotto.
I should add that ( from memory ) the song change slowly fades in / out , so it isnt like its a 'clunky change' - eg you are in general play and ( say ) Seek and Destroy is running , you then achieve ( say ) Multiball at the drops Seek Destory fades out , then and Master of Puppets slowly fades in and starts as your multiball is getting ready to start and plays until you drain m/ball and the reverse fade happens back to Seek & Destoy.
What I would like is the option to do on longer games is to ‘come back’ to a different song maybe.
The code is young with numerous updates ahead apparently so you never know what will come – I mean truly none of us REALLY know the ruleset properly at this stage – so maybe you have to complete certain tasks and the song change will be available etc – dunno yet
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Thanks for the writeup Wotto, hopefully they change the song setup, or at the very least continue the song instead of restarting it all the time, early days still, I'm sure they will have that feedback and change the code in due time.
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Game sounds awesome
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Thanks wotto
Can't wait for my LE hopefully with a few code changes some of your bad points can be fixed.
The coffin window is it clear? If it is get a sticker made up to stick under the insert of a skeleton or something cool seen something at draculas was a coffin in the floor with a clear lid and a rotting corpse tapping on the class lol
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Thanks very much for the review. The game looks a winner and with code updates should be fantastic going by your report. It just sounds like stern drops the ball releasing maybe too soon and should get the coding sorted to a more advanced level. I think I read that Lyman will keep updating acdc when he gets a chance seeing he's working hard on this game. I think that's a little unfair on acdc owners, but I must admit I don't know how advanced or tight the coding is for this game at present.
Maybe stern will address this down the track
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Thanks wotto
Can't wait for my LE hopefully with a few code changes some of your bad points can be fixed.
The coffin window is it clear? If it is get a sticker made up to stick under the insert of a skeleton or something cool seen something at draculas was a coffin in the floor with a clear lid and a rotting corpse tapping on the class lol
Great idea, that would be supercool, maybe a skeleton ?
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Forgot to ask in my last reply and please excuse my ignorance, but in the good old days of T2 onwards, how good was the coding when these games were released? Did they seem under done? If so then I take back my criticism but still feel a manufacturer should maybe make a bigger effort on this matter. I view a bit like have a pop bumper that is present but doesn't work. A button on Swep1 does exactly that.......jack.....maybe I answered my own question with Williams and Swep1???
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New code link just sent to me ^^^
Unsure whats in it - but the pin community wot take long to sort out and advise.
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Forgot to ask in my last reply and please excuse my ignorance, but in the good old days of T2 onwards, how good was the coding when these games were released? Did they seem under done? If so then I take back my criticism but still feel a manufacturer should maybe make a bigger effort on this matter. I view a bit like have a pop bumper that is present but doesn't work. A button on Swep1 does exactly that.......jack.....maybe I answered my own question with Williams and Swep1???
Technology is different. In the old days, a machine was manufactured and put on route for it's intended purpose - to make money. The designers rarely went back to address the code UNLESS it had a definite problem. As an example - DE Jurassic Park - The L/R motor wore out because it kept moving abruptly. Motors were wearing out and being replaced constantly. So DE re wrote the code to stop this from happening. But you need to either BUY to ROMs or have an eprom burner (technology).
Today, updating code is simple - no need to eprom burners. Also the games today are designed with the home market in mind, so feedback is essential for manufacturers. In the old days, games were tested and not as complicated. These days, it is assumed that code will be released as feedback dictates.
It is easy to say the games are unfinished (and they are finished for operators) - but code updates are now accepted as part of the life cycle of a machine.
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From people are saying it appears to be an upgrade in dots at this stage
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From people are saying it appears to be an upgrade in dots at this stage
I read somewhere that there will be a code update every week.
Peter
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From people are saying it appears to be an upgrade in dots at this stage
I read somewhere that there will be a code update every week.
Peter
I was told that every Tuesday there is meant to be something come out for this game ( codewise )
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Stern have released their video, looks really good.
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That was AWSOME was excited before but now bloody goose bumps and that's just the pro $$(
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Stern have released their video, looks really good.
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Should have been a video of the premium showing ALL the features IMHO, compared to the videos posted on pinside I nearly fell asleep.
Peter
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Stern have released their video, looks really good.
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Should have been a video of the premium showing ALL the features IMHO, compared to the videos posted on pinside I nearly fell asleep.
Peter
Seems like the machine was pushed out before the marketing on this one. Very tight timeline! What I want is high res copies of the flyers. They released pictures on Facebook, but no high res PDFs on their web site???
Cheers!
Adam.
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That was a pretty un-inspiring video.
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The pro is being built first, guessing any teething problems will be addressed before starting on the Premiums and LE's. Suspect another video will be released for these models.
Would have liked to see Lyman actually playing the game in normal speed rather than fast motion.
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It was only a very quick teaser video until the full length one is made, as John Borg is going away on annual leave, expect a lot more in the coming weeks incl high resoloution flyers etc.
I have some coming so will share when mine arrive.
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I could be wrong but it looks like there is only one mode( fuel) and a bunch of multiballs. That is very disappointing from my point of view.
Still very keen to suss one out but atm from the videos I have seen it appears that this game will look way better than it plays.
On the plus side it looks and sounds way better than accadacca.
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I could be wrong but it looks like there is only one mode( fuel) and a bunch of multiballs. That is very disappointing from my point of view.
Still very keen to suss one out but atm from the videos I have seen it appears that this game will look way better than it plays.
On the plus side it looks and sounds way better than accadacca.
That’s about the way it is right now – but I am sure it will change with code updates.
We found a hurry up from the captive ball the other night.
It has 3 or 4 multiball’s
Within the multiball’s there are certain shots to make of course – but at this stage I reckon even those aren’t finished.
We had all the SNAKE inserts light at once a few nights back AND 3 small orange inserts near the FUEL shot came on at the same time – however shots to any of the lit shots didn’t do a lot ( the lamps didn’t go out ) so again I am assuming there is ‘something’ to come in that area ( there has to be – it cant stay like that )
There is also ‘Crank it Up’ on the plastic above the Mystery hole – unsure what that will do.
The large PF inserts between the flippers do not light up after you achieve the respective multiball’s that ‘match’ the images on the inserts – so again I assume there will be bigger goals to achieve in order to get them lit.
I had one of the guitar picks ( Robs ) light the other night ( we heard ‘dont f*ck with Rob’ and then the pick insert for Rob lit ) but was unsure how I achieved that as I am sure I had hit the pick targets in previous games and the main pick insert between flippers didn’t light in those games.
In the settings there are quite a few adjustments available for End of The line’ – ( wizard mode ) so there has to be a way to go with the coding.
Yes it LOOKS awesome , and yes the shots are REALLY nice , but at this stage the game is I believe far from done , if they end up combining some tough rules with the flow and shots currently available then its a real winner.
Fingers crossed hey.
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Very very early days, it will get the extra code/programming it deserves in the coming weeks n months, just like ACDC did, and ACDC is now a absolute winner in every way. Metallica probably got released extra early to take some Kudos away from JJP's WOZ release.
ACDC and Metallica machines side by side will be a nice view. Throw a Avengers and maybe a Star Trek into the mix, and Stern is on fire doing very very well.
John Borg has become the best pinball designer on the planet, and he has a lot of years n tables still in him.
Imagine whats going to happen in the next 5 years. Pinball is absolutely alive and thriving. Excellent. Go Stern.
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I could be wrong but it looks like there is only one mode( fuel) and a bunch of multiballs. That is very disappointing from my point of view.
Still very keen to suss one out but atm from the videos I have seen it appears that this game will look way better than it plays.
On the plus side it looks and sounds way better than accadacca.
That’s about the way it is right now – but I am sure it will change with code updates.
We found a hurry up from the captive ball the other night.
It has 3 or 4 multiball’s
Within the multiball’s there are certain shots to make of course – but at this stage I reckon even those aren’t finished.
We had all the SNAKE inserts light at once a few nights back AND 3 small orange inserts near the FUEL shot came on at the same time – however shots to any of the lit shots didn’t do a lot ( the lamps didn’t go out ) so again I am assuming there is ‘something’ to come in that area ( there has to be – it cant stay like that )
There is also ‘Crank it Up’ on the plastic above the Mystery hole – unsure what that will do.
The large PF inserts between the flippers do not light up after you achieve the respective multiball’s that ‘match’ the images on the inserts – so again I assume there will be bigger goals to achieve in order to get them lit.
I had one of the guitar picks ( Robs ) light the other night ( we heard ‘dont f*ck with Rob’ and then the pick insert for Rob lit ) but was unsure how I achieved that as I am sure I had hit the pick targets in previous games and the main pick insert between flippers didn’t light in those games.
In the settings there are quite a few adjustments available for End of The line’ – ( wizard mode ) so there has to be a way to go with the coding.
Yes it LOOKS awesome , and yes the shots are REALLY nice , but at this stage the game is I believe far from done , if they end up combining some tough rules with the flow and shots currently available then its a real winner.
Fingers crossed hey.
I have no doubt that there will be some cool updates on the way, just a shame that stern don't release games with just a little more than bare bones code.
Don't get me wrong I look forward to updates when they happen, would love another x update but it can get a bit frustrating waiting for new updates.
Some more modes would compliment the game nicely for sure.
Can you confirm that combo scoring is already in the code? I think I read somewhere on pinside that it was, that is a definite plus for me, love combo scoring.
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I have had up to 4 way combos available ( scored and displayed as such ) on the DMD screen after hitting ramps and the orbit - but cant recall it going past 4. Shots were like 2 ramps , orbit, ramp ....... ^^^
I will try and get some seriosus time on it this weekend and take MUCH more notice of the combination sequences ( could take glass off but I like to discover as I play rather than do that )
Was also in 'And Justice For All' mode the other night and the lit shots scored ( constantly raising ) points awards ( jackpots, but didnt call Jackpot audibly from memory ) - but I noticed the score increase from each shot wnet up VERY little - I think the first shot was 286,000 ( a strange figure to start at anyway ) and then went up in increments of only 2k for each subsequent shot to other lit shots, I got the feeling the points awarded could / should be changed in code as well - because 2k doesn’t ‘feel’ like much of an award #@#
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photos or videos would be excellent if u are able...........
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here is a 15 minute video of Lyman Sheats playing the Metallica Pro
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Good vid
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I could be wrong but it looks like there is only one mode( fuel) and a bunch of multiballs. That is very disappointing from my point of view.
Still very keen to suss one out but atm from the videos I have seen it appears that this game will look way better than it plays.
On the plus side it looks and sounds way better than accadacca.
That’s about the way it is right now – but I am sure it will change with code updates.
We found a hurry up from the captive ball the other night.
It has 3 or 4 multiball’s
Within the multiball’s there are certain shots to make of course – but at this stage I reckon even those aren’t finished.
We had all the SNAKE inserts light at once a few nights back AND 3 small orange inserts near the FUEL shot came on at the same time – however shots to any of the lit shots didn’t do a lot ( the lamps didn’t go out ) so again I am assuming there is ‘something’ to come in that area ( there has to be – it cant stay like that )
There is also ‘Crank it Up’ on the plastic above the Mystery hole – unsure what that will do.
The large PF inserts between the flippers do not light up after you achieve the respective multiball’s that ‘match’ the images on the inserts – so again I assume there will be bigger goals to achieve in order to get them lit.
I had one of the guitar picks ( Robs ) light the other night ( we heard ‘dont f*ck with Rob’ and then the pick insert for Rob lit ) but was unsure how I achieved that as I am sure I had hit the pick targets in previous games and the main pick insert between flippers didn’t light in those games.
In the settings there are quite a few adjustments available for End of The line’ – ( wizard mode ) so there has to be a way to go with the coding.
Yes it LOOKS awesome , and yes the shots are REALLY nice , but at this stage the game is I believe far from done , if they end up combining some tough rules with the flow and shots currently available then its a real winner.
Fingers crossed hey.
I have no doubt that there will be some cool updates on the way, just a shame that stern don't release games with just a little more than bare bones code.
Don't get me wrong I look forward to updates when they happen, would love another x update but it can get a bit frustrating waiting for new updates.
Some more modes would compliment the game nicely for sure.
Can you confirm that combo scoring is already in the code? I think I read somewhere on pinside that it was, that is a definite plus for me, love combo scoring.
Have to agree here.. i know updates are normal now but from what im reading the game is released far too early.. seems basic code isnt finished and in all honesty this is on par with WOZ demo machines being sent out to the dealers except in this case.. its sold to the end customer
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Any updates if Timezone Gold Coast has their 2 Metallica pros set up yet?
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Why on earth doesn't Stern release rule sheets for it's games?
Appreciate the code isn't finished yet, but would it really be that hard to release information about what you are actually supposed to do in each mode?
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Why on earth doesn't Stern release rule sheets for it's games?
Appreciate the code isn't finished yet, but would it really be that hard to release information about what you are actually supposed to do in each mode?
? Perhaps its because the info would be super-ceeded a few days or weeks after release with all the new code coming out so often ??, but its certainly a good question. I would imagine that things get invented and changed too quick for a deep printed rule set. Now that there is competition, it seems everyone is holding info close to their chests.
Stern knows its customers don't mind waiting a little for the code updates, so it releases machines to cash in literally to the excitement that is generated initially around a new release. Welcome to all things new n shiny. People just love to be the first owners of brand spanking new toys.
It will all be history in 3 or 4 months when much more code is finalised and people are ready to order anyway.
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Any updates if Timezone Gold Coast has their 2 Metallica pros set up yet?
Haven't heard anything yet, will update as soon as I do, might even drop in on the weekend
Edit: sometime next week according to their Facebook page
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Stern knows its customers don't mind waiting a little for the code updates
They dont have much choice in the matter and Stern seem to release less and less finished code each time.. but hey.. buyers are falling over themselves to get a game first up and will willingly buy on title alone, before any artwork or even game play is released.. for the life of me, i cannot understand this at all..
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People are doing this because Stern are producing top notch games now, one after another.
Some people are paying deposits on machines sight unseen, knowing they can move from a LE to a Premium or to a Stern Pro incase they change their mind, or just get a refund or move the deposit to the next upcoming title. Its the best way to secure a LE if that's what the buyer really wants.
There are some pretty enthusiastic Stern collectors out there now.
I expect some people will do their best to collect JJP titles one after the other as well.
Look at the Hobitt, nothing released and people have payed up etc. Because of refunds, it makes it a worthwhile choice for some to do this.
I am dying to see Star Trek from Stern. This should be a big seller as well. I expect LE models to be all sold out 10 minutes after release etc. I am putting down a deposit on one so I don't miss out well well ahead of time, and if I don't like the LE, will move the deposit to another variant.
Exciting times ahead. Hoping prices do not move anywhere for the next 12 to 18 months.....
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here is a 15 minute video of Lyman Sheats playing the Metallica Pro
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Only problem with the video to watch is that a PRO, being Lyman is playing and he was as a little boring to watch, calculating his shots too much for my liking.
Random fast play is what I want to see, showing METALLICA going off like a frog in a sock! %.%
I still like the way it looks and sounds but get a newbie to play it and show their reactions to the speed and flow. Better still I can not wait to give her a whirl myself.
STERN are definitely on the right track with this title, having original(COOL) art and some great features(WANK !!@ FACTOR).
Maybe they really did need a kick up the arse from upcoming Pinball Manufacturers, we all win.
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Stern knows its customers don't mind waiting a little for the code updates
They dont have much choice in the matter and Stern seem to release less and less finished code each time.. but hey.. buyers are falling over themselves to get a game first up and will willingly buy on title alone, before any artwork or even game play is released.. for the life of me, i cannot understand this at all..
So very very true +1
I am a Stern customer and like many other Stern customers I really don't like waiting for code updates that much at all, in fact I am pretty sick of them releasing bare bones code in games, I consider it a bit of a slap in the face actually. It has stopped me from buying nib again because I have NO way of knowing if a game with a theme that I like will turn out the way I want it too.
But as long as people are hyped up enough to buy these things without completed code after viewing a few videos and some pics there is no way Stern will pick their act up, so in reality we as pinball owners/players only have ourselves to blame, if we voted with our wallets and didn't fall for this hyped up form of trickery there would be no problem.
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here is a 15 minute video of Lyman Sheats playing the Metallica Pro
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Only problem with the video to watch is that a PRO, being Lyman is playing and he was as a little boring to watch, calculating his shots too much for my liking.
Random fast play is what I want to see, showing METALLICA going off like a frog in a sock! %.%
I still like the way it looks and sounds but get a newbie to play it and show their reactions to the speed and flow. Better still I can not wait to give her a whirl myself.
STERN are definitely on the right track with this title, having original(COOL) art and some great features(WANK !!@ FACTOR).
Maybe they really did need a kick up the arse from upcoming Pinball Manufacturers, we all win.
That video of Lymonade playing Metallica dead set put me to sleep.
I have no interest in watching people trap and hold over and over only to miss most of the shots, I hate that style of playing. Don't trap and hold for half a month while you make a cuppa! Go with the flow, get in and smash it up and let it rip!
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All the top players play in that style. Ball control is everything in obtaining a decent score.
Lyman hit the shots he aimed for most of the time and perhaps the misdirected ones show that this title has a couple of difficult shots.
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All the top players play in that style. Ball control is everything in obtaining a decent score.
Lyman hit the shots he aimed for most of the time and perhaps the misdirected ones show that this title has a couple of difficult shots.
Boring and lame, not top players in my book if that is what they do to get points.
*%*
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All the top players play in that style. Ball control is everything in obtaining a decent score.
Lyman hit the shots he aimed for most of the time and perhaps the misdirected ones show that this title has a couple of difficult shots.
Boring and lame, not top players in my book if that is what they do to get points.
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they should introduce a setting for a 1-2 sec max time hold on the flippers and then they drop and then see how people go, but agree with CC
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what about a competition that is based on ball times in play, or total game play time, with no trapping allowed at all.
u could even have point score games back as well, but no trapping allowed. makes for a much more fun and entertaining
game for both player and the watching public.
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All the top players play in that style. Ball control is everything in obtaining a decent score.
Lyman hit the shots he aimed for most of the time and perhaps the misdirected ones show that this title has a couple of difficult shots.
Boring and lame, not top players in my book if that is what they do to get points.
*%*
they should introduce a setting for a 1-2 sec max time hold on the flippers and then they drop and then see how people go, but agree with CC
+1, makes the game more exciting, otherwise it is like watching or playing a union game with just penalty goals.
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they should introduce a setting for a 1-2 sec max time hold on the flippers and then they drop and then see how people go.
What a GREAT idea ^^^
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for anyone interested LE playfield design - check the subway for the hammer magnet, and coffin, to the mystery hole
and also notice the underneath surface mount led boards
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Some LED work done with the bulbs I had on hand already and some blades installed - for those interested.
Also - I have a shaker installed in this PRO and I reckon it shakes more with the new code - OR maybe I am just getting better ball time and noticing it more !@#
I used 4 x BLUE frosted and 2 x GREG BERRY massive superbright special whites on the backboard
Blue in the GI in the far rear corners
RED in the GI behind the Grave Marker Cross
I tried ORANGE under the side plastics and it yelloewd them, as it did in the orange inserts so I left them incandescant
Obviously purple in the return lanes
Purple at Sparky's feet
Blue in the large 'electric switch' inserts at each shot.
RED at the FUEL target inserts - that doesnt show up well in these pics
Some way to go but its a start and already looks sweet.
Mirrors are TIGHT !
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That looks great with the leds and the blades.
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Yeah it is coming on real nice mate.....dont want to over do it.
There is SO much colour in the game artwork the game looks good anyway.
Starting to get some decent games on it and it can be REALLY fast.
The ball flies back from the stand up 'pick' targets - especially from the one right by the snakes head.
Still finding you have to nail SNAKE to make the ball stick in there ( not a fault , rather my crappy shooting ability )
On Snake he has a green light on his head ( 'he is hungry' ) - shoot ONE ball in and then the light goes out and you have to hit one of the snake shots ( they are all lit ) before you can 'feed him' again ( green light not on until then ) - what I just stated appears to be a little random at the moment .......I think if they work on the code and make the snake orange inserts 'move' ( like the arrows on WH20 in Wet Willies stage ) then it would be terrific and make it TOUGH ......maybe they can do this on the 2nd time around after scoring snake.
CC - had plenty of combo shots - it is nice.
Still discovering more while trying to keep a ball in play - its a lot of fun
Repeat - IT NEEDS A SUB.
Let down - 2 of the Sparky calls are awful ' can I shock you too' SERIOUSLY sounds like someone badly impersonating Shaggy from Sccoby Do as I stated previously and I cant get that out of my head - other than that I am getting used to the calls.
NEARLY had FUEL mode started and then drained.
Wondering what happens when you light all the band members now ( from the pick shots )
Will keep persisiting
I dont want to watch the video - would rather discover myself for now
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Mirror blades are almost a MUST on these new Sterns.
It just adds sooo much to a game and brightens up everything but makes the std body feel almost like a widebody.
Metallica is going to be just awesome. Shaker motor also a must on new Sterns. Adds a lot.
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I think a shaker WITH a Pinball PRo sub will start shaking bits loose :lol
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I find the stock speakers more than ample on bnib sterns.....but the speaker upgrade is like all other mods, u can never have too many.
have u decided on a nice topper yet wotto ? #@# #@# %.% %.%
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I find the stock speakers more than ample on bnib sterns.....but the speaker upgrade is like all other mods, u can never have too many.
have u decided on a nice topper yet wotto ? #@# #@# %.% %.%
The topper MADE ME LAUGH :lol
No mate trust me - something about this audio isnt 'right' - MAYBE it is the music that it just FEELS like it needs 'more'
The voices are FINE like all the other Sterns , but the music just seems 'lacking'
Maybe its my DEAF drummers ears as well !@#
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Yeah it is coming on real nice mate.....dont want to over do it.
There is SO much colour in the game artwork the game looks good anyway.
Starting to get some decent games on it and it can be REALLY fast.
The ball flies back from the stand up 'pick' targets - especially from the one right by the snakes head.
Still finding you have to nail SNAKE to make the ball stick in there ( not a fault , rather my crappy shooting ability )
On Snake he has a green light on his head ( 'he is hungry' ) - shoot ONE ball in and then the light goes out and you have to hit one of the snake shots ( they are all lit ) before you can 'feed him' again ( green light not on until then ) - what I just stated appears to be a little random at the moment .......I think if they work on the code and make the snake orange inserts 'move' ( like the arrows on WH20 in Wet Willies stage ) then it would be terrific and make it TOUGH ......maybe they can do this on the 2nd time around after scoring snake.
CC - had plenty of combo shots - it is nice.
Still discovering more while trying to keep a ball in play - its a lot of fun
Repeat - IT NEEDS A SUB.
Let down - 2 of the Sparky calls are awful ' can I shock you too' SERIOUSLY sounds like someone badly impersonating Shaggy from Sccoby Do as I stated previously and I cant get that out of my head - other than that I am getting used to the calls.
NEARLY had FUEL mode started and then drained.
Wondering what happens when you light all the band members now ( from the pick shots )
Will keep persisiting
I dont want to watch the video - would rather discover myself for now
Cool, combos are great fun and Wet willies style flashing arrows/ roaming flashing arrows would be sweet on a wizard mode.
Lighting all the band members could be a nice mini wizard mode perhaps?
What is the snake made out of, is it plastic like wolverine and magneto?
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I find the stock speakers more than ample on bnib sterns.....but the speaker upgrade is like all other mods, u can never have too many.
have u decided on a nice topper yet wotto ? #@# #@# %.% %.%
The topper MADE ME LAUGH :lol
No mate trust me - something about this audio isnt 'right' - MAYBE it is the music that it just FEELS like it needs 'more'
The voices are FINE like all the other Sterns , but the music just seems 'lacking'
Maybe its my DEAF drummers ears as well !@#
Do you use earplugs when drumming?
I always use earplugs when cranking up my guitar rig.
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looks awesome wotto, especially the leds and blades
What finish is on the wireforms - looks like a grey powdercoat
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What is the snake made out of, is it plastic like wolverine and magneto?
they are actually made from rubber, not plastic.
same for acdc bell, made from rubber not plastic.
the snake head will be rubber as well.
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Wolverine and Magneto are plastic not rubber, my wolverine broke his arm in the first week of ownership and I can assure you it is plastic.
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Daz, I have to dis-agree, sorry.
I have 2 spares here from Stern, which I took photos of for a X Men thread, and they are painted moulded rubber. Stern also confirms same on invoice which states moulder rubber figurine.
Look inside them, and squeeze them when its warm, they are rubber. Hard on outside, soft on inside.
http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=10493.0
I would bet snake head will be rubber as well, otherwise plastic will crack unless it has some flex in it.
I intend on buying a spare Sparky n snake head for a Metallica Pro, so will see if its the same as X Men toys.
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Well if that's rubber it's the worst frigging rubber going around, it is very flimsy.
Anyway sorry to go off topic.
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I reckon Sparky on Metallica will be rubber.
I am going to buy one and some other stuff, I am just hoping that the costs for spares aren't too expensive.
I am betting it will be between $120 and close to $200 perhaps. Oucchh !
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I reckon Sparky on Metallica will be rubber.
I am going to buy one and some other stuff, I am just hoping that the costs for spares aren't too expensive.
I am betting it will be between $120 and close to $200 perhaps. Oucchh !
I WILL own a Metallica as my next machine, but for the mean time, I'd like a Sparky with my machines. Let me know how much they cost, Cavey!
Metallica has got me pumped. Been listening to all my old albums religiously and even started playing the guitar again.
Cheers!
Adam.
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A better look at the blue LED glow - taken tonight with no natural light.
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Stern knows its customers don't mind waiting a little for the code updates
They dont have much choice in the matter and Stern seem to release less and less finished code each time.. but hey.. buyers are falling over themselves to get a game first up and will willingly buy on title alone, before any artwork or even game play is released.. for the life of me, i cannot understand this at all..
Actually, after a few days of ownership I am realising there is more in this ( latest ) code than what I thought.......
All multiballs are in
FUEL Mode
Justice for All Mode
Fuel stacks with multiballs
Combo shots - with indicators
Sparky seems to do all he could ever do ( finished? ) - I think so
The stand up pick targets light the picks between the flippers , once obtained 2 times for each band member
Extra Balls score
Light show is fantastic and I guess finished to the point it can be to work with the current code / modes etc ( if it gets even better then that's a bonus )
Loads of animations happening
The code that seems to not have been done is some of the Mystery selections ( only 3 or so in there currently )
The scoring 'points' ( jackpots are strange amounts and increment in tiny amounts )
There are settings in the menu for 'Seek & Destroy' Champion - end of the line - and of course Crank it up on that right PF plastic - so all those things are yet to be introduced.
The top post divertor needs 'addressing' in general play
And obviously finer detail of some of the current gameplay could be changed.
All in all - an incredible game release when you look at the coding, the artwork, the lightshow, the music ........Stern have kicked a MAJOR goal with this.
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Stern knows its customers don't mind waiting a little for the code updates
They dont have much choice in the matter and Stern seem to release less and less finished code each time.. but hey.. buyers are falling over themselves to get a game first up and will willingly buy on title alone, before any artwork or even game play is released.. for the life of me, i cannot understand this at all..
Actually, after a few days of ownership I am realising there is more in this ( latest ) code than what I thought.......
All multiballs are in
FUEL Mode
Justice for All Mode
Fuel stacks with multiballs
Combo shots - with indicators
Sparky seems to do all he could ever do ( finished? ) - I think so
The stand up pick targets light the picks between the flippers , once obtained 2 times for each band member
Extra Balls score
Light show is fantastic and I guess finished to the point it can be to work with the current code / modes etc ( if it gets even better then that's a bonus )
Loads of animations happening
The code that seems to not have been done is some of the Mystery selections ( only 3 or so in there currently )
The scoring 'points' ( jackpots are strange amounts and increment in tiny amounts )
There are settings in the menu for 'Seek & Destroy' Champion - end of the line - and of course Crank it up on that right PF plastic - so all those things are yet to be introduced.
The top post divertor needs 'addressing' in general play
And obviously finer detail of some of the current gameplay could be changed.
All in all - an incredible game release when you look at the coding, the artwork, the lightshow, the music ........Stern have kicked a MAJOR goal with this.
If Stern add in those missing code points you have mentioned and add another mode or two in future updates I am in.
Fingers crossed, I love the look of this game and want to pull the trigger on one.
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Yeah CC - thats just what I have found in there so far.
There are still a few things that I dont get.......
Each ramp or orbit shot has a grave marker insert.
I have had games where they are all unlit at start of a ball , and others where one or two ARE lit.
For what reason I have no idea.
Same with the large electric switch insert - one at each major shot.......sometimes one or two light up but I have no idea why OR what I did to make that happen , if anything.
I 'think' it might be shots I have made successfully whilst in Sparky Multiball !@# and I thought it would retain that memory, but I am yet to have 2 Sparky MB's in one game so I am unsure if I started it again if the shots I had already completed would be lit again at the start *!@ *!@
Its just small stuff like that , that I cant work out OR isnt properly coded yet - possibly it is just me misunderstanding it and I really dont want to learn this game with the glass off as previously stated.
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Looking good Wotto. Nice choice of LEDs. Mirror blades/shaker/Pinball Pro kit would be the first mods I put on a Metallica if I buy one.
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Sub and also a speaker lighting kit with Metallica cover plates are already on order #*#
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Sub and also a speaker lighting kit with Metallica cover plates are already on order #*#
then you have to be the first to do a skeleton or mummy for the coffin
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I think the game told me that I SUCK this afternoon as well :lol
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I emailed Borgy about my idea for a menu setting idea where you can adjust the flipper hold to reduce the ball trapping, here was his response - never know it may find it into Stern's future machines as an adjustable setting
"Hi Jady
I catch the ball but rarely trap during multiball rounds. I like to play pinball and not just hold the balls like many very advanced players do. I like your idea and it’s a good idea for tournament play. Tourneys usually last a long time and it would certainly shorten the length of play. I’ll bring it up at my next meeting.
Regards,
John"
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So - we could be seeing SWINKS in future credit dots *)*
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Metallica Pros arriving at Timezone on the Gold Coast
**pic from TZ Facebook page
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Nearly ready, 2x Metallica Pro's + 1x new ACDC Pro added to the TZ lineup $#$
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TZ machines now up and running $#$
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Thanks for the update Replay ^^^
Worth a trip to TZ over the comming weekend...
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Couple more pics
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Awesome photos thanks for sharing was cavey there playing lol
Peter
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Awesome photos thanks for sharing was cavey there playing lol
Peter
Lol, no Cavey, couple of our pinball club members were already there and more turned up.
Two new Metallica pins, great game straight off the bat and a new ACDC Pro, killer fast that game. Credit to Timezone for getting the pins, they put the overhead screen in for us too , nice!
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LE's are on the Line nice
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/24/sy4u9ete.jpg)
Peter
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Cool...
Thanks for the lastest pics Pete ^^^
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Check out Page 6 of the Pinside Metallica owners thread - scroll down and see the similarity ( glaringly obvious on a blank PF ) to compare AFM and MET shot layouts !
No wonder this game is getting instant wraps ^^^
On top of that one of the Pinsiders is working out the rules in relation to hurry ups that seemingly may work the same as in AFM $#$
Anyway - worth a look &&
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Ooooops - here you go - http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/metallica-owners-thread/page/6
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Some very minor 1%er's done to Metallica today.
Thought I would post this small 'very fussy to some' correction that I did to my game so that other Metallica owners can look out for it when their games arrive.
Obviously the LE wont have the coffin issue that the PRo appears to.
I am sure this wont even be an issue for 99% of owners - I am just a touch fussy.
First off - the 4 large inserts that appear on all versions of the game.
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I noticed that UNDER the playfield 2 of the 4 globes are mounted down low and threw a different light into the insert.
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So I cut some small 'extension plates' out of 2mm perspex and made it so the globes all sit at the centre point of the inserts.
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for PRO owners - this is the coffin underneath.
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And again - a simple fix to get them lined up in the centre - which will fill the coffin with light better when viewing from above.
Note that this area required a hole to be drilled - BE CAREFUL if doing this.
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Hope this helps anyone who is fussy like me ^^^
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LE getting closer :-)
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Peter
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I want that job #@#
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I want that job #@#
Me to but I couldn't pay the bills on $9 an hours :-(
Peter
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I wouldnt have any bills - I would never leave the office :lol
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LEs are almost ready to ship $#$
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dirty donny enjoying
and
Sterns Facebook have a photo of a speaker grill mod - not sure if this is a LE thing or just a mod
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The "M" in the speaker grills looks like it's just a LE thing at this stage ....
So instead of a shaker motor and subwoofer we get 2 little plastic M's worth about $1.50 .. #@!
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The "M" in the speaker grills looks like it's just a LE thing at this stage ....
So instead of a shaker motor and subwoofer we get 2 little plastic M's worth about $1.50 .. #@!
Lol hopefully PF toys make up for it.
Peter
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So we don't get a shaker or sub woofer what a rip
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Borg checking it out!
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Peter
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remove the word pinball and stern's logo and this could be a great Premium Cabinet artwork with the band added, I wonder !@#
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This game does look good but since not a metallica fan still not willing to consider a purchase, interested to hear thoughts from those that aren't metallica fans of the following idea.
It would be cool if a setting could be introduced where you have either all the music like the current with it dominating the game or the music sits more in the background like say in Iron Man where it is maybe the instrumental less the singing giving you that rocking sound but not a jukebox / cd player feel. The instrumental music could possibly blend into each other for various modes and suit the traditional pin sound flow. Also because the update size might be huge or possibly not possible have 2 updates A. singing and B. no singing. I reckon a few more sales could be achieved off the non metal heads and I would seriously look at getting one.
I have seen posts where people turn the music down, I don't think that is the answer as then the game is then dominated by sound effects so not a great solution and still a jukebox sound.
Interested to hear other peoples thoughts.
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Great idea swinks.
I'm an Acdc fan and would be reluctant to own their pinball as even though only having a handfull of songs I would get sick of them quick. Playing it at timezone for only 30 mins was enough for me. Gameplay was fine but having the songs as background rather than it being a dominating part of the experience would be an excellent option.
Anthony.
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Best leave songs as is otherwise you might get karaoke singers come up while you play and stuff up your concentration.
Really funny now when I hear AC/DC song on radio, my mind goes straight to that song's specific game play. Metallica would be the same. Also, not sure if the band would want the singing removed.
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Posted by an Aussie guy on pinside is news that the LE's are leaving stern on Wednesday for Australia so there on track for very early July delivery :-)
Peter
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Yeah Leo said there ready to ship. Bring it on!!!!
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Yeah Leo said there ready to ship. Bring it on!!!!
Awesome! hey Dan is yours coming into AMD then down to Melbourne or straight to Melbourne?
Peter
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Played both of the 2 Metallica pros yesterday arvo at Timezone Gold Coast.
Well Stern have done an awesome job with this title, artwork is very colourful and the pf and cabinet are both just stunning to say the least.
Its a fast playing pin and ramps are very steep, really enjoyed the in-line drop targets, tough shots to get them all down and get multiball ! Sparky multi ball is difficult to get as well.
Overall I really enjoyed this pin, this pinball ROCKS!! ^^^
TZ current line up is
Metallica pro x 2
AC DC pro x 2
Xmen
Avengers
Transformers
*Notice the return of the New Arrival flag screwed to the top cabinet!! :D
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Played both of the 2 Metallica pros yesterday arvo at Timezone Gold Coast.
Well Stern have done an awesome job with this title, artwork is very colourful and the pf and cabinet are both just stunning to say the least.
Its a fast playing pin and ramps are very steep, really enjoyed the in-line drop targets, tough shots to get them all down and get multiball ! Sparky multi ball is difficult to get as well.
Overall I really enjoyed this pin, this pinball ROCKS!! ^^^
TZ current line up is
Metallica pro x 2
AC DC pro x 2
Xmen
Avengers
Transformers
*Notice the return of the New Arrival flag screwed to the top cabinet!! :D
The pro looks great hey! Did you have trouble dropping the in line targets? Guys in the USA are saying they don't drop all the time maybe a issue?
Peter
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Yeah Leo said there ready to ship. Bring it on!!!!
Awesome! hey Dan is yours coming into AMD then down to Melbourne or straight to Melbourne?
Peter
Not sure Peter hopefully straight to Melbourne not that I have anywhere to fit it when it arrives
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I've got plenty of room here if you need mate *)*
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The pro looks great hey! Did you have trouble dropping the in line targets? Guys in the USA are saying they don't drop all the time maybe a issue?
Peter
I noticed the same thing when I played the one at AMD about 2 weeks ago. The second drop target would randomly only drop down half way. They also felt sluggish. Maybe just need adjusting or something. The overall layout is clean and simple.
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Played both of the 2 Metallica pros yesterday arvo at Timezone Gold Coast.
Well Stern have done an awesome job with this title, artwork is very colourful and the pf and cabinet are both just stunning to say the least.
Its a fast playing pin and ramps are very steep, really enjoyed the in-line drop targets, tough shots to get them all down and get multiball ! Sparky multi ball is difficult to get as well.
Overall I really enjoyed this pin, this pinball ROCKS!!
TZ current line up is
Metallica pro x 2
AC DC pro x 2
Xmen
Avengers
Transformers
*Notice the return of the New Arrival flag screwed to the top cabinet!! :D
The pro looks great hey! Did you have trouble dropping the in line targets? Guys in the USA are saying they don't drop all the time maybe a issue?
Peter
Hi Peter yes the pro is one cool pin. The inline drop targets dropped ok, just a difficult overall shot, 5 shots on one ball as they reset at the start of the next ball. Tough multi ball, mystery award only rewards 500,000 points in this early code, however this will most probably change as Lyman works his magic.
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I have seen enough of this game now to know that it is through to the keeper.
Fantastic artwork for sure and the code has cool potential but it's not for me.
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Not sure if everyone's seen the new videos by GAP on Youtube? Some nice customs on that Metallica Pro.
I might have to hibernate til December. Hoping to buy a Metallica Pro for Christmas.
Cheers!
Adam.
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Not sure if everyone's seen the new videos by GAP on Youtube? Some nice customs on that Metallica Pro.
I might have to hibernate til December. Hoping to buy a Metallica Pro for Christmas.
Cheers!
Adam.
Cool Videos Adam thanks for posting.
Peter
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Its official I'm a paid up LE Metallica owner now the long wait
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Its official I'm a paid up LE Metallica owner now the long wait
Congrats mate, beautiful machine
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a guy on pinside posted snake tooth damage after 200 plays - it might pay new owners to perform some dental work and shorten the teeth a tad or buy a spare head for when and if you go to sell your machine or have as a back up
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Yeah - thats an obvious item that I believe WILL break on all snakes.
would it be possible for someone to make a ( not sure how to explain my thoughts ) ......'solid back piece' for each tooth !@#
Imagine a small piece of steel or very hard product that is shaped so it glues with some almighty tuff glue to the roof of the mouth plate and sits dead tight up against the back of each tooth and is cut/created at an angle that goes from the bottom of the rear of the tooth up to the roof of the mouth so from the players POV you cant see it.
Like a little trangular prism as such - make sense?
Feasible?
Idiotioc?
Just thinking on the fly here.
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yeah thats a fair idea Wotto - snake denture plate
could be a job for cliffy - would be a fiddly job
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Apparently only the first batch have fangs the ones being made now the snakes don't have fangs lol I wonder why :-)
Peter
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If mine has no fang ill use your idea wot to of the plate glued to the top of the mouth but ill make teeth from white silicon drops
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Its official I'm a paid up LE Metallica owner now the long wait
Awesome! The wait is half the fun ^&^. The Pro model is a great game, can't wait to see what the LE brings to the table , ah , the wait...
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Hey Dan - you may be making me a set as well - if my teeth are broken by then - hope not but.
CONGRATS on the buy mate ^^^
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Getting close now (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/04/4y4ajygu.jpg)
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Getting close now (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/04/4y4ajygu.jpg)
Awesome stuff I'm excited.
Peter
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LE's leave today just spoke with Bruce :-) had to get a shaker and sub to.
Peter
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LE's leave today just spoke with Bruce :-) had to get a shaker and sub to.
Peter
I'm going the check to see if it comes with 4 balls, they might only give 1 and the other three are an option :lol
Nice one on the shaker and sub, I think they are a must have, especially for this pin
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Getting close now (http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/04/4y4ajygu.jpg)
And the quality control section is blank !@# lol
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Still can't believe no Sub totally pissed off about that one shaker no biggie.
Ill just add one myself I guess
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Still can't believe no Sub totally pissed off about that one shaker no biggie.
Ill just add one myself I guess
AMD can supply and fit a 10" sub for $150, shaker for $220 and now mirror blades for $150
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Ill just go to jaycar lol
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Ill just go to jaycar lol
Lol
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I'm going the check to see if it comes with 4 balls, they might only give 1 and the other three are an option :lol
Nice one on the shaker and sub, I think they are a must have, especially for this pin
Won't really matter if they supply them with 1 , 4 or even 10 balls Rob . They'll be shit quality , like the balls in all previous releases .
One of the first things to definitely do to a new Stern - chuck the supplied balls in the bin and put in good quality new ones .
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For sure I found one ball that seriously looked like it broke In Half and was welded back together lol
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Won't really matter if they supply them with 1 , 4 or even 10 balls Rob . They'll be shit quality , like the balls in all previous releases .
One of the first things to definitely do to a new Stern - chuck the supplied balls in the bin and put in good quality new ones .
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So true, will have some ready and waiting ^^^
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I'm going the check to see if it comes with 4 balls, they might only give 1 and the other three are an option :lol
Nice one on the shaker and sub, I think they are a must have, especially for this pin
Won't really matter if they supply them with 1 , 4 or even 10 balls Rob . They'll be shit quality , like the balls in all previous releases .
One of the first things to definitely do to a new Stern - chuck the supplied balls in the bin and put in good quality new ones .
You would think they'd at least supply nice shinny balls wouldn't you? I'd better order some magnet balls.
Peter
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For sure I found one ball that seriously looked like it broke In Half and was welded back together lol
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Should have taken a pic of that
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One of the first things to definitely do to a new Stern - chuck the supplied balls in the bin and put in good quality new ones .
Aint that a co-incidence - I just did exactly that last night after recieving my 'Berry Balls' ^^^
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A guy off pinside has an LE but can't take pics or video until Monday that's orders from stern lol
Here's some comments from the gameplay.
"The cross starts down. When multiball is ready, it rises up like it does on the DMD graphic.
The snake head is closed when SNAKE is not lit. A shot to the snake head or a lit orange snake shot lights SNAKE and opens his mouth. There are NO fangs on the LE snake.
Spinners are cool, they have a drum sound effect.
The apron is lit above the instruction and free play cards on the graphic. Looks nice.
There is a high score for "Seek and Destroy" now at 5 million. I played it, but wasn't sure how I did that.
Guitar pick stand ups now only qualify band members instead of lighting lock too. Band member modes are not there yet."
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Some pics not PF he's not allowed lol
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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/07/ybu8u4ev.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/07/asype4uz.jpg)
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a couple more photos
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Thanks for the updates guys, this machine sounds awesome.
The cross rises out of the playfeild , Wow!
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on Stern's Facebook - new code being released tomorrow
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Ooooh, its like xmas eve for me $#$
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Ooooh, its like xmas eve for me $#$
I bet you are gotta love code updates :-)
Peter
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LE back-glass.
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here is a photo of the backglass
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Nice artwork *%*
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Ooooh, its like xmas eve for me $#$
I bet you are gotta love code updates :-)
Peter
Arrr - gotta wait another week now #@#
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At last Sterns LE video
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I just watched that whole vid!
Makes me want mine even more now. :)
How long before they get here again?
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I just watched that whole vid!
Makes me want mine even more now. :)
How long before they get here again?
First week of July :-)
Peter
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Cool vid, that coffin lock is sweet, and the lightshow for coffin multiball looks awesome *%*
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cool game, and liking the light effects, and game play features and the coffin multiball was good as well, but interesting the silence at the 9min mark
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cool game, and liking the light effects, and game play features and the coffin multiball was good as well, but interesting the silence at the 9min mark
Yeah, funny that, song finishes and it goes silent. I would have thought the song would have started again.
Maybe it will in future updates. Great looking game, ticks all the boxes
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Downloading V1.13 as I type this.
Hopefully will get to install later tonight ( have a drum clinic to attend tonight of all nights @.@)
Heres the text from Stern site.
- Snake shot (eject) was awarding a snake letter when the snake was not
lit to score a letter. This has been corrected.
- Added a flasher lamp effect for Seek & Destroy (destroy) at the coffin.
- Fixed a problem with the initialization of the "seek" shots for Seek &
Destroy (shots were not being lit in the order in which the hurry-ups
were started/collected.
- Fixed up issues with holding/releasing balls from the snake.
- Added new hurry-up art (the background art had problems).
- Implemented a new set of adjustments for coffin hits to light lock.
(Instead of 10-10-10, it is 5-10-10 and the increment isn't as brutal.)
- Added switch sounds to drop target test.
- Added coffin hurry-up to the list of criteria that leaves the loop
post down so the ball can loop back to the flippers.
- Fixed a bug with the music. If the music ended, then it would not
always be restarted immediately. The song would also sometimes be
restarted in the middle instead of from the beginning. This has
been corrected.
- Right eject was not waiting for extra ball. This has been corrected.
- Skill shot and super skill shot not allowed if auto-firing after a
serve.
- Fixed loop issue with bonus item lamp effect. Reworked the bonus lamp
effects so they work correctly with persistent G.I.
- Fixed the wire colors for the magnets (YEL-VIO changed to VIO-YEL).
- Snakes now awarded for shooting the snake eject (unconditionally).
- Advancing captive ball hits for coffin lock lit was not awarding
coffins for advancing towards modes/EOL. This has been corrected.
- The "lars" guitar pick animation was not being requested when lars
was collected. This has been corrected.
- Coffin locks now awarded at the captive ball instead of the guitar
pick targets.
- Removed the long delay that was present after the ball was kicked
from the snake.
- Fixed some adjustment text that did not fit on the display.
- Fixed electric chair coil wire color (step-up board).
- Added an adjustment (default: YES) to carry over the state of the
guitar pick targets from ball to ball.
- Fixed a typo in the "explode from cross" lamps that was not specifying
electric chair lamp #3.
- Removed long pause at Seek & Destroy start/restart where the timer
would not count down. Implemented grace/grace. Cleaned up restart.
- Loop post lowered (to allow looping) during Seek & Destroy mode.
- Added Seek & Destroy mode total art.
- Cross multiball total stays up on the display for longer.
- Advancing the ramp mode not allowed during multiball and/or Seek &
Destroy mode.
- Cleaned up lots of issues with Seek & Destroy mode. Added an adjustment
to reset the timer when a shot is made. Added speech. Added proper
lamps. Added some sound effects.
- Coffin hurry-up start display effect was indicating that the hurry-up
was worth 20,000,000 (or some other large incorrect amount). This has
been corrected.
- Seek & Destroy champion added back into the attract mode. More changes
to the coffin hurry-up scoring. Changed the multiball autofire timer
values for cross multiball (made longer, from 10 seconds to 15 seconds
default) and electric chair multiball (made longer, from 15 seconds to
20 seconds default).
- Shot features passed off to Seek & Destroy start, so the shots will be
presented in the order in which the hurry-ups were started/collected.
- Added a timer adjustment for Seek & Destroy mode.
- Added new hammer art and more Seek & Destroy art.
- Added background display/music for the Seek & Destroy mode.
- Added new BEEPED speech.
- Coffin hurry-up start value now takes into account the number of items
that were lit on the shot that started the hurry-up and increases the
value in proportion to the number of items that are lit.
- Added new speech to Seek & Destroy mode start.
- Added art to the grave marker multiball total display effect.
- Added more hurry-up art. Added new sounds for combo jackpot award.
- Added art for combo jackpot.
- Added more art -- coffin + combos.
- Implemented combo jackpot. This is collected by hitting the fuel lane
standup target when a combo sequence is active.
- Implemented "autofire after lock" adjustment.
- Reworked ramp mode lamp effect to not turn off lamps that are not being
used by the mode.
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JOHN BORG INTRODUCES THE LE / PREMIUM METALLICA
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Thanks for video Jady some nice close ups there.
Peter
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some shot maps - nice come back to game info
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$#$ I'm getting pretty excited this will definitely be the highlight of 2013 for me $#$
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OK all you future MET owners - not sure if you saw the post on Pinside but there has been a SIMPLE fix for the 'non dropping dead on hit' drop target issue.
The full story is here - http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/top...one-have-a-fix
But essentially you just pull the target springs off at the lowest point and replace them back on the bracket with around 5 mm of spring 'hanging over' - yes you ARE stretching your spring but not by much and it works pretty much 100%
if you bugger your spring it might end up costing you 0.25c
Anyway - keep it in mond when you get your games
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Thanks Wotto
Not long now....
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Update: shipment of Metallica pins is due to arrive on Tuesday 9th, AMD expects to have them on the 11th.
So most of us should be receiving them the following week
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Update: shipment of Metallica pins is due to arrive on Tuesday 9th, AMD expects to have them on the 11th.
So most of us should be receiving them the following week
Cool looking forward to it arriving, there going to checkout the drop targets to :-)
Peter
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I installed the new code 1.16 tonight and the game sounds, lights and looks 'even' better.
Lights at Sparky’s feet now appear to work properly , to indicate how close you are to ‘lighting him up”
The Snake add a ball really adds a great dimension to multiball play.
There are some better sayings that I dont recall being in there before
Scoring seems to be a whole lot higher - in the past on a rubbish game I would get like around 5 mill - now on a rubbish game I am getting around 15mill.....I could be SO wrong in this regard and may not be recalling my gameplay correctly , but it just felt like tonight I was getting better scores more easily
Still yet to introduce band member modes, EOL mode and crank it up.........peeeeeerdy coooool huh !
Pretty schmick game - all you LE owners waiting should be very happy soon #*#
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Thanks for the revue Wotto I can't wait for mine not long now. And sounds like ill be kicking back watching mine get unboxed sounds like ill have a few helpers
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Dont get me wrong - there is still some things to add - and apparently the nit-pickers are already finding some flaws in the latest code ( FFS &^& ) ......but hey - its a solid and FUN game at the moment IMO , easy to walk up and bash BUT also there is enough in there if you want to have a 'thinking' game scorewise.
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Hey Dan if our sparky doll breaks I found a replacement lol
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/07/era2a4y7.jpg)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/07/07/6yjemu3y.jpg)
I thought it was hilarious
Peter
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If you guys get sick of your Metallica machines, maybe we could use the software editor and do a Warney re-theme? haha
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Hahaha Pete that's classic I'd love to light warnie up
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:lol :lol :lol
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Hahaha Pete that's classic I'd love to light warnie up
Awesome hey I have 3 dolls ready to go lol
Peter
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Warnie warnie warnie!!!
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Legend!!
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%.% %.% %.%
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90 (ninety) x Master Puppets landing here within the week.
Aussies bought a lot of the top LE model.
Massive amount of Pro models landing as well. Excellent for Pinball in Australia. ^^^
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$#$ almost time to ride the lightning $#$
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Exciting times ahead for some lucky collectors. Xmas in July....
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90 (ninety) x Master Puppets landing here within the week.
Aussies bought a lot of the top LE model.
Massive amount of Pro models landing as well. Excellent for Pinball in Australia. ^^^
Really?? We have 90 of 500 LE's here in Oz?
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90 (ninety) x Master Puppets landing here within the week.
Aussies bought a lot of the top LE model.
Massive amount of Pro models landing as well. Excellent for Pinball in Australia. ^^^
Really?? We have 90 of 500 LE's here in Oz?
I heard there's 68 coming?
Peter
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90 LE's seems too many.... given the speed which these sold out in the states & worldwide, reading on pinside many american distributors had there orders cut back after deposits had been taken !@#
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90 all up I would think, LE , PREMIUM & PRO
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I heard 69 but I don't really care ones ending up in my shed that's all that matters
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Does anyone know if any PRO's are sited in Melbourne (or available to play?)
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Dam there delayed until next Wednesday :-(
Peter
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Fingers crossed mine will be here Monday but its ok Peter I won't open mine till Wednesday how's that sound ^^^
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Fingers crossed mine will be here Monday but its ok Peter I won't open mine till Wednesday how's that sound ^^^
please post some pictures mate, I'm excited for you. Now I'm not working I enjoy seeing some good stuff happening and this is one of those occasions. Btw tell us what score you post for your first game
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Won't be opened straight away Rob promised a few people they could help open it so see what day I can organize
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Fingers crossed mine will be here Monday but its ok Peter I won't open mine till Wednesday how's that sound ^^^
Nah all good mate open it and please send pics :-)
Peter
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cool and interesting vid
op_-A
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Won't be opened straight away Rob promised a few people they could help open it so see what day I can organize
sounds like it'll be a great day, maybe a few drinks to help as well &&
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Won't be opened straight away Rob promised a few people they could help open it so see what day I can organize
Excited!! ()
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Very C@@l Vid, looks like its going to be a popular pin ^^^
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Hopefully the LE plays better than the pro.
The pro is a beautiful looking but sad playing bore fest from my experience.
Next!
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Well its been confirmed my Metallica will be delivered this afternoon.
A massive thanks to Lou (Jukeola). Who is picking mine up when he gets his and delivering it to me
BLOODY LEGEND ^^^
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Well its been confirmed my Metallica will be delivered this afternoon.
A massive thanks to Lou (Jukeola). Who is picking mine up when he gets his and delivering it to me
BLOODY LEGEND ^^^
Lucky duck Daniel photos pls :-).
Peter
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Well its been confirmed my Metallica will be delivered this afternoon.
A massive thanks to Lou (Jukeola). Who is picking mine up when he gets his and delivering it to me
BLOODY LEGEND ^^^
Can't wait!!
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Hopefully the LE plays better than the pro.
The pro is a beautiful looking but sad playing bore fest from my experience.
Next!
WOW - really - you must be joking surely !@#
A machine with same/similar layout to AFM , awesome flow ( apart from left orbit with that damn post ) and starting to get some decent rules and heaps of Multiball, good music, lightshow and dots ...............really?
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Great news Daniel, awesome service by cashbox as well $#$
Bring on some LE pics
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Hopefully the LE plays better than the pro.
The pro is a beautiful looking but sad playing bore fest from my experience.
Next!
WOW - really - you must be joking surely !@#
A machine with same/similar layout to AFM , awesome flow ( apart from left orbit with that damn post ) and starting to get some decent rules and heaps of Multiball, good music, lightshow and dots ...............really?
Just can't get into it. Great looking machine for sure, it's just not for me.
I'm not a huge fan of AFM either.
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Hopefully the LE plays better than the pro.
The pro is a beautiful looking but sad playing bore fest from my experience.
Next!
WOW - really - you must be joking surely !@#
A machine with same/similar layout to AFM , awesome flow ( apart from left orbit with that damn post ) and starting to get some decent rules and heaps of Multiball, good music, lightshow and dots ...............really?
You forget Wotto, he is a Queenslander. They are never quite right in the head.
Go the Blues.
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Well its finally arrived. Sorry I shouldn't say that with all the poor WOZ owners still waiting.
Thanks again Lou
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Hopefully the LE plays better than the pro.
The pro is a beautiful looking but sad playing bore fest from my experience.
Next!
WOW - really - you must be joking surely !@#
A machine with same/similar layout to AFM , awesome flow ( apart from left orbit with that damn post ) and starting to get some decent rules and heaps of Multiball, good music, lightshow and dots ...............really?
You forget Wotto, he is a Queenslander. They are never quite right in the head.
Go the Blues.
All Mexicans are jealous of the promised land, it's natural I understand.
The blues...lol.
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Well its finally arrived. Sorry I shouldn't say that with all the poor WOZ owners still waiting.
Thanks again Lou
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Sweet, see ya tomorrow mate #*#
Surprised you can wait that long :lol
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Hopefully the LE plays better than the pro.
The pro is a beautiful looking but sad playing bore fest from my experience.
Next!
WOW - really - you must be joking surely !@#
A machine with same/similar layout to AFM , awesome flow ( apart from left orbit with that damn post ) and starting to get some decent rules and heaps of Multiball, good music, lightshow and dots ...............really?
You forget Wotto, he is a Queenslander. They are never quite right in the head.
Go the Blues.
All Mexicans are jealous of the promised land, it's natural I understand.
The blues...lol.
Your knowledge of how Victorians feel about NSW is surprisingly sound.
I understand why you mock 'The Blues' bit of a contradiction isn't it considering we will be on top of the world when we win tonight.....and no I am not willing to put any money on them ;o)
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Hopefully the LE plays better than the pro.
The pro is a beautiful looking but sad playing bore fest from my experience.
Next!
WOW - really - you must be joking surely !@#
A machine with same/similar layout to AFM , awesome flow ( apart from left orbit with that damn post ) and starting to get some decent rules and heaps of Multiball, good music, lightshow and dots ...............really?
You forget Wotto, he is a Queenslander. They are never quite right in the head.
Go the Blues.
All Mexicans are jealous of the promised land, it's natural I understand.
The blues...lol.
Your knowledge of how Victorians feel about NSW is surprisingly sound.
I understand why you mock 'The Blues' bit of a contradiction isn't it considering we will be on top of the world when we win tonight.....and no I am not willing to put any money on them ;o)
Mexicans are anyone below the qld border, Mexican immigrants are anyone from below said border living in the promised land.
:lol
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No Gallen=no chance. You guys are toast but even with capt grub in the lineup they would still get beaten. The refs or QLD not playing to potential are your only chance, your team just isn't anywhere near good enough if qld bring the A game.
No $$$ wagered = no real faith in your team...surely worth a lazy $50 at those good odds if you are so confident.
#@#
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Hahaha - OK lets NOT talk footy until Thursday hey , you know Thursday.......thats the day after Billy Slater will have either head butted or eye gouged a NSW player only to be told it was accidental as it 'isnt in his game' :lol
Captain Grub - thats a ripper ^^^
Now back to MET please ..................
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Hey Guys...anyyone still waiting for delivery of your LE??
Still waiting.... *!@
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Yep, stii waiting (((
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Pinball news part one in depth review on pro and le
http://www.pinballnews.com/games/metallica/index5a.html (http://www.pinballnews.com/games/metallica/index5a.html)
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Yep, stii waiting (((
Edit: not for long #*#
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I must say I like the 'attract mode radio' feature on Metallica....
I'm fairly sure it was on AC/DC as well, but you turn the feature on (in feature adjustments) then hold the right flipper button which brings up a radio on the DMD...Select your song and away she goes. Expensive juke box, but a cool feature.
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does it just play the 12 Metallica songs
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I must say I like the 'attract mode radio' feature on Metallica....
I'm fairly sure it was on AC/DC as well, but you turn the feature on (in feature adjustments) then hold the right flipper button which brings up a radio on the DMD...Select your song and away she goes. Expensive juke box, but a cool feature.
I didn't know it did that lol acdc does it to :-)
Peter
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does it just play the 12 Metallica songs
Will have a look see and get back to you mate.
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Looks to be 12 songs. , but having said that with my skills I barely get past the intro
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Yes - just the 12 songs at this stage.
The same feature wasnt originally on ACDC in the early code but was introduced later.
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Yes it's a great feature only problem is it turns off after each song it needs a setting so it jumps to the next track or a random one so I can turn it on and leave it playing
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Yes it's a great feature only problem is it turns off after each song it needs a setting so it jumps to the next track or a random one so I can turn it on and leave it playing
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Yep, stii waiting (((
Edit: not for long #*#
Waiting for me.....
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Latest code is out for both PRO & Prem/LE's
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Latest code is out for both PRO & Prem/LE's
Cheers updated :-) and the hammer still works lol
Peter
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Looks to be 12 songs. , but having said that with my skills I barely get past the intro
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Dirty Donny gets his Premium
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Dirty Donny gets his Premium
Cheers that's a cool photo :-)
Peter
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Cool video thanks ^^^
After putting some serious game play in I'm enjoying it more and more. The machine is starting to "loosen up"after approx 300 games and with the modes music and flow this is a winner add more code and it'll only get better I'm wrapped I bought it. I haven't played acdc for days lol
Peter
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Dirty Donny gets his Premium
Love the Decks on the wall!
I have a few as well.
Simon
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Played a couple games for the first time yesterday.
First impression - Buries AC/DC.
Note to stern - REAL artwork looks cool. No more photoshopped games. Hire Dirty Donny as your artist for ALL games.. Seriously - the art package is awesome.
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Cool video thanks ^^^
After putting some serious game play in I'm enjoying it more and more. The machine is starting to "loosen up"after approx 300 games and with the modes music and flow this is a winner add more code and it'll only get better I'm wrapped I bought it. I haven't played acdc for days lol
Peter
300 games $$(. Bloody hell I'd be lucky to have played 20
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Played a couple games for the first time yesterday.
First impression - Buries AC/DC.
Note to stern - REAL artwork looks cool. No more photoshopped games. Hire Dirty Donny as your artist for ALL games.. Seriously - the art package is awesome.
Yeah the artwork is spectacular
Peter
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Cool, just checked out the vid above, what a killer pin Metallica is ^^^
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Played a couple games for the first time yesterday.
First impression - Buries AC/DC.
Note to stern - REAL artwork looks cool. No more photoshopped games. Hire Dirty Donny as your artist for ALL games.. Seriously - the art package is awesome.
Pro or LE? I hear that Metallica pro is a better player than ACDC but not so with the LEs. Peter, what's your thought?
I played the pro at AMD the first week it arrived and gave it a thumbs up (apart from the spongy drop targets) but I have not played the LE.
Artwork definitely better on Metallica but I can't see too many BIBLE or LTBRLEs up for sale as a result. I think most collectors will keep both titles for a long time.
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Played a couple games for the first time yesterday.
First impression - Buries AC/DC.
Note to stern - REAL artwork looks cool. No more photoshopped games. Hire Dirty Donny as your artist for ALL games.. Seriously - the art package is awesome.
Pro or LE? I hear that Metallica pro is a better player than ACDC but not so with the LEs. Peter, what's your thought?
I played the pro at AMD the first week it arrived and gave it a thumbs up (apart from the spongy drop targets) but I have not played the LE.
Artwork definitely better on Metallica but I can't see too many BIBLE or LTBRLEs up for sale as a result. I think most collectors will keep both titles for a long time.
Yeah My BIBLE isn't going anywhere ^^^ I still believe ACDC is a players game meaning its a game that requires thought and planning on what to shoot for and when to shoot, its a real challenge and the pay off is fantastic and very rewarding. Metallica is old school shoot in order and hit the flashing lights I know there's more to it than that but that's nice for a change also and yep the artwork is great thank god Stern sold so many acdc machines to fund the real artwork for Metallica. AMD are still selling loads of ACDC's which 12 months down the track is great for pinball and Stern.
ACDC = players game
Metallica = easy to understand great as a sited machine.
For me ACDC wins
Peter
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I agree Pete - I actually reckon Metallica has been a roaring success partly to the ( also great ) success of the ACDC machine......I think ACDC sales numbers gave them a real 'roll on' to create another music pinball and thank god they created a machine that 99% of people are really liking , in all it's versions and for loads of reasons.
I am sure they would be thinking to create even more music based games down the track BUT I do think they need to 'space them out' in between other concept titles.
Congrats to Stern - I also think they will follow Metallica with a CRACKER as they have now ( in a good way ) built a rod for thier own back ()
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Ok....I couldn't wait til Christmas and ordered a Metallica Pro today. More details when it's all paid for.
Cheers!
Adam.
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Congrats ^^^
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Ok....I couldn't wait til Christmas and ordered a Metallica Pro today. More details when it's all paid for.
Cheers!
Adam.
Great choice. You won't be disappointed. Everyone who's played mine has been very impressed.
Shaker motor is a must on the pro.
I also went the extra step of a pinball pro speaker kit (full) and LED kits and I am 100000% happy with it.
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Ok....I couldn't wait til Christmas and ordered a Metallica Pro today. More details when it's all paid for.
Cheers!
Adam.
Well done Adam you have the big 3 I'd like :-)
ACDC
METALLICA
GUNS & ROSES
enjoy
Peter :-)
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Ok....I couldn't wait til Christmas and ordered a Metallica Pro today. More details when it's all paid for.
Cheers!
Adam.
Well done Adam you have the big 3 I'd like :-)
ACDC
METALLICA
GUNS & ROSES
enjoy
Peter :-)
I was at a friends yesterday that had a different big 3 lined up
ACDC BIB
Metallica MOP
KISS
It was great to see them all together
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That's a nice lineup to Matt.
Peter
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Only had a few games last night after unpacking it but looking at the snake,should the bottom jaw be level with the playfield or should sit up a bit.Bit worried it might do some damage.Love the art work.
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Ok....I couldn't wait til Christmas and ordered a Metallica Pro today. More details when it's all paid for.
Cheers!
Adam.
Well done Adam you have the big 3 I'd like :-)
ACDC
METALLICA
GUNS & ROSES
enjoy
Peter :-)
It's official! All paid for. LEDs, sub woofer and shaker motor added to this one. Will have to get a shaker for AC/DC and Tron at some stage....when the finances are more healthy.
Yes, the big three. I love my music and I love my music themed pinball machines. Would love a KISS machine to round off the collection, but I keep swaying towards DMD games when it comes time to buy a new machine.
Looking forward to the arrival of Metallica next week!!!!
Cheers!
Adam.
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Did you get it from Bruce?
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Did you get it from Bruce?
Sure did!
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Would love a KISS machine to round off the collection, but I keep swaying towards DMD games when it comes time to buy a new machine.
MAYBE Stern will re-do a KISS game down the track a little #@#
Start saving !@#
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Would love a KISS machine to round off the collection, but I keep swaying towards DMD games when it comes time to buy a new machine.
MAYBE Stern will re-do a KISS game down the track a little #@#
Start saving !@#
Now a KISS would be the perfect
Peter
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Would love a KISS machine to round off the collection, but I keep swaying towards DMD games when it comes time to buy a new machine.
MAYBE Stern will re-do a KISS game down the track a little #@#
Start saving !@#
I was originally hoping Stern would make KISS moreso than Metallica, even though I'm more of a Metallica music fan. When Metallica was unveiled, it completely blew away my expectations. I was originally imagining an all black cabinet with lots of silver Metallica logos and live shots of the band everywhere.
If Stern does KISS, I hope it's a few years away. haha
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Would love a KISS machine to round off the collection, but I keep swaying towards DMD games when it comes time to buy a new machine.
MAYBE Stern will re-do a KISS game down the track a little #@#
Start saving !@#
Now a KISS would be the perfect
Peter
I think it will happen, and I've saved up for a KISS LE. Metallica is simply an awesome package, so I expect them to raise the bar with the next title. If it is a music pin, I'd hope for an Iron Maiden or KISS. An IM artwork package would be insane. I'd definitely buy an Iron Maiden pin after experiencing the increase in quality at each title Stern releases.
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Would love a KISS machine to round off the collection, but I keep swaying towards DMD games when it comes time to buy a new machine.
MAYBE Stern will re-do a KISS game down the track a little #@#
Start saving !@#
Now a KISS would be the perfect
Peter
I think it will happen, and I've saved up for a KISS LE. Metallica is simply an awesome package, so I expect them to raise the bar with the next title. If it is a music pin, I'd hope for an Iron Maiden or KISS. An IM artwork package would be insane. I'd definitely buy an Iron Maiden pin after experiencing the increase in quality at each title Stern releases.
I'll be surprised if Stern don't release an Iron Maiden machine by end of 2014....and if they do, I'll have to check myself into some rehab centre or win the lottery.
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Imagine the artwork for a maiden pin if Metallica's anything to go by :-) stern must have some money in the bank now so go on Gary give Gene a call again :-)
Peter
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METALLICA!!!!!
Ok, my Metallica Pro arrived today and it's now in my games room all setup and ready to go. Will post some photos in the next few days. Have to go back to playing it now. AMAZING! Definitely worth the purchase and if AC/DC is anything to go by, can only get better with each code update.
Cheers!
Adam.
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Enjoy! It is a cracker of a game
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LE & PREMIUM CODE V1.22 is out
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V1.22 - August 13, 2013
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- Changed the timings for aborting out of the hammer sequence after
the ball has been detected and grabbed by the magnet, as the non-
presence of the ball is reported much more slowly by the new firmware
as compared to the old firmware.
- Added cross/snake/sparky lamps to seek and destroy background lamp
effect for "seek" state.
- Coffin magnet "grab" time lowered from .9 sec to .8 sec.
- Added a display effect for hitting the snake in the jaw during snake
multiball.
- Fixed some issues with instant info. Cross multiball lit and electric
chair multiball lit screens were not clearing the display before
rendering their text. This has been corrected. Added a border to the
snake letter screen for instant info so it can be more easily
distinguished from the snake letter display effect that is run during
the game.
- A right top lane award was calling the award function with the ID of
the left top lane. This has been corrected.
- Snake multiball combo multiplier maximum changed from 5x to 3x.
- Changed the award display effect for super skill shot to display the
special awards (light playfield multiplier, light coffin hurry-up, light
mystery, etc.) when they are collected. (The "light hurry-up" awards
are currently disabled until the skill shot is reworked to be more
balanced/valuable.)
- Added more switches that tell the system that the ball is on the
playfield. Added an adjustment to tell the system that the ball is
on the playfield for certain known "flaky" switches (drop targets, pop
bumpers, slingshots).
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Cheers will update now ^^^
Peter
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Another update man they send out updates more than I get to look at mine. I still hold the high score so I won't be updating for a little while (depends how long it takes for my son to beat it lol). Oh sorry son a new update arrived too bad hehehehee
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Thought I'd upload a video guys from my iPhone hope you enjoy ^^^
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In 35 years of owing pinballs today was the first time I've closed the outlane posts on a machine! First game alot better or it was gone lol
Peter
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In 35 years of owing pinballs today was the first time I've closed the outlane posts on a machine! First game alot better or it was gone lol
Peter
I'm glad you said that Peter so its not that I'm a shit player it really is a drain monster on the outlanes
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In 35 years of owing pinballs today was the first time I've closed the outlane posts on a machine! First game alot better or it was gone lol
Peter
I'm glad you said that Peter so its not that I'm a shit player it really is a drain monster on the outlanes
No probs and combined with SDTM from sparky it's very frustrating, my advice bring them in much much better
Peter
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In 35 years of owing pinballs today was the first time I've closed the outlane posts on a machine! First game alot better or it was gone lol
Peter
I'm glad you said that Peter so its not that I'm a shit player it really is a drain monster on the outlanes
No probs and combined with SDTM from sparky it's very frustrating, my advice bring them in much much better
Peter
Totally agree! People complained that AC/DC was a drain monster, but Metallica is insane. I can't bring myself to move the outlane posts....yet. I love punishing myself. haha.
I admit I'm a sh1t player, but enjoy pinball all the same. 40 million has been my top score so far.
Still loving Metallica!
^^^
Cheers!
Adam.
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Finally got all the music-themed pins + Sterns all in a row on the weekend. Absolutely love them!
Cheers!
Adam.
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Great wall of Stern, Well done, enjoy ^^^
Bring on Iron Maiden ()
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Nice one Adam that pic looks awesome :-)
Peter
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Yep, I'm a definite Stern fanboy now. Need to find a Family Guy next.
Iron Maiden....I'll be broke if that happens! haha.
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Finally got all the music-themed pins + Sterns all in a row on the weekend. Absolutely love them!
Cheers!
Adam.
You are missing Elvis and the Rolling Stones !^! *)*
Very nice line up ^^^
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Finally got all the music-themed pins + Sterns all in a row on the weekend. Absolutely love them!
Cheers!
Adam.
You are missing Elvis and the Rolling Stones !^! *)*
Very nice line up ^^^
now rolling stones.....thats a great game.....hang on while I put my fingers down my throat.......seriously
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Just added six of these bad boys behind the panel which is behind sparky wow what a light show :-)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/03/ezepa9e5.jpg)
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I wondered why we lost power down my way %.% do you have to wear Sunnies when playing now?
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Just added six of these bad boys behind the panel which is behind sparky wow what a light show :-)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/03/ezepa9e5.jpg)
Daniel installed them on the night we were over there for the unboxing, huge improvement, also a green one under the pop bumpers and red ones in the coffin, much better light show, shame stern don't release the LE's with led flashers for the amount of money you pay for them
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I love led flashers :-)
http://youtu.be/80XhAqY_Yfk
http://youtu.be/vs6aQFbi2Go
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From pinside :-)
Steve Ritchie just said at the Houston show that an update for Metallica would be in the near future ( month ?) due to all the complaints. He also stated that AC/DC would possibly get another code update and that Xmen would probably not.
He did say that the software guys were now making Metallica a priority...
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My Metallica Pro was supposed to be birthday + Christmas present, so when the new code is released, it may just feel like a new game on Xmas day?
Cheers!
Adam
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Does anyone know when the new code is coming.
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Does anyone know when the new code is coming.
No idea this has become a major joke!! The game is beyond boring :-( come on stern pull your bloody finger out and fast.
Peter
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Here's a video of my unboxing of Metallica my daughter sped it up so folks don't fall asleep lol click on HD the pictures abit better
http://youtu.be/yKplQP2iEmQ
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Here's a video of my unboxing of Metallica my daughter sped it up so folks don't fall asleep lol click on HD the pictures abit better
http://youtu.be/yKplQP2iEmQ
didn't work real well on my surface rt but I got the gist. Will try on my pc as it looked like a fun moment.
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Spiderman looks terrified in that line-up. Nice footage that is sure to bring back fond memories in years to come.
Hell, with all those mates, who needs a trolley anyway.
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looks great, congrats
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Here's a video of my unboxing of Metallica my daughter sped it up so folks don't fall asleep lol click on HD the pictures abit better
http://youtu.be/yKplQP2iEmQ
didn't work real well on my surface rt but I got the gist. Will try on my pc as it looked like a fun moment.
No worries Rob but it should work on iPads and tablets now :-)
Thanks to Adam (Crashramp) and Blair (Pintoxicated) for helping out it was a fun weekend.
Peter
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Here's a video of my unboxing of Metallica my daughter sped it up so folks don't fall asleep lol click on HD the pictures abit better
http://youtu.be/yKplQP2iEmQ
didn't work real well on my surface rt but I got the gist. Will try on my pc as it looked like a fun moment.
No worries Rob but it should work on iPads and tablets now :-)
Thanks to Adam (Crashramp) and Blair (Pintoxicated) for helping out it was a fun weekend.
Peter
It was a fun weekend, thanks again Peter for holding out on the invoicing until we got there ( also for the Pizza).
Only comment I have for the Video is the music. With us all bumbling around and
sped up I couldn't help but think the Benny Hill music would have been very appropriate also. :D
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Here's a video of my unboxing of Metallica my daughter sped it up so folks don't fall asleep lol click on HD the pictures abit better
http://youtu.be/yKplQP2iEmQ
didn't work real well on my surface rt but I got the gist. Will try on my pc as it looked like a fun moment.
No worries Rob but it should work on iPads and tablets now :-)
Thanks to Adam (Crashramp) and Blair (Pintoxicated) for helping out it was a fun weekend.
Peter
It was a fun weekend, thanks again Peter for holding out on the invoicing until we got there ( also for the Pizza).
Only comment I have for the Video is the music. With us all bumbling around and
sped up I couldn't help but think the Benny Hill music would have been very appropriate also. :D
Thanks for the idea for part 2 %$%
Peter
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scant clad women will need to be there to unbox the machine to go with the Benny Hill music.
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Yep works great on the iPad. Enjoyed the video thanks mate
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scant clad women will need to be there to unbox the machine to go with the Benny Hill music.
Agreed, this should really be mandatory for any un-boxing.
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I managed to watch the Metallica 'Through the Never' DVD on the weekend.
I could see so many things taken from the stage / surrounds on the pinny towards the theme.
I'll be interested to see if any of the additional tracks from the DVD make it onto the code update....When ever it gets done....
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Voting has finished. Ride the lightning and blackened will be added to the code around march 17th
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Voting has finished. Ride the lightning and blackened will be added to the code around march 17th
Nice :-)
Peter
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Voting has finished. Ride the lightning and blackened will be added to the code around march 17th
...with the code to be actually released around 2016 #@#
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Code is finally released :D :D :D
http://www.sternpinball.com/USB_MTLA.html
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V1.5 - March 6, 2014
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- Mode jackpot value is seeded with the value of the points award, had
the player taken that award. Electric chair lamp effects no longer
requested if the feature cannot be advanced.
- Added lamp effects to seek & destroy mode.
- Added lamp effects for fuel mode.
- Added lamp effects for snake multiball.
- Top lane skill shot without the aid of the loop diverter post awards
2x value (so a non-post aided right top lane is 4x value).
- Lowered fuel scores.
- Added an adjustment (NO/YES) to add the mode completion bonus points
to the mode jackpot (default NO).
- Added an adjustment to control the relighting of the mode collect
select. The default is EASY which keeps the collect/continue lit for
the remainder of the mode. For those who want a challenge, set the
adjustment to HARD and this will unlight the collect; the 4 items will
have to be collected again to light the collect.
- Some multiballs were allowed to start while a mode was running. This
has been corrected (no multiball during modes, except "The End Of The
Line").
- Boosted up the volume for the "Jack F*ck*n' Pot" speech, which is sent
out for any super jackpot (cross, electric chair, coffin, snake) scored
at 4x.
- Added a short sound for use by the bonus effect (electricity, which was
too long and ran over into the next player's ball, and then some).
- Removed grab and toss random from electric chair multiball super jackpot
award as this is proving to be too much work for the magnet.
- Fixed a priority issue with "extra ball" and "mystery" that was
preventing the mystery award sounds from playing.
- Added more shaker motor effects. Changed some existing effects so they
are better synced with sounds and effects.
- Added sparky coil requests to the "Battery" mode.
- Increased the volume of the hammer hit sound.
- Added face bash sound for snake jaw hit during snake multiball. (This
is a PREMIUM/LE feature but the sound is common to PRO and PREMIUM).
- Mode bonus collect points lowered to 1/4 of the total points scored
during the mode, as the points can be collected multiple times; the full
value was WAY too unbalancing.
- Added mode instructions. These can be turned of by setting the "MODE
INSTRUCTIONS" adjustment to "NO". Mode instructions are off for the
"DIRECTOR'S CUT" install.
- Reorganized the order in which the metallica ramps awards are given.
These are now higher than combos, which they probably always should have
been.
- Modes now keep track of the total number of times "collect" is lit,
which is reported to the mode bonus when lit when the player finally
chooses "collect". This determines the points scored for the shots
made to light the mode bonus at the right eject.
- Metallica ramps mode, Fuel mode, and Seek & Destroy mode songs pick up
where they left off (approximate) when the modes are restarted or end
up at the top of the stack as a result of another mode going away.
- Reworked the "fuel target hit" display effect to include information
about the number of blown pistons to light extra ball.
- Added fuel lane extra ball to instant info. Lowered default number of
combos required to light the combo extra ball from 25 to 20 (extra easy
goes from 15 to 10, easy goes from 20 to 15, hard goes from 30 to 25,
and extra hard goes from 35 to 30).
- Added an audit for mystery. Cleaned up some audit/adjustment display
text.
- Loop post disabled during "Battery", "Enter Sandman", and "For Whom The
Bell Tolls" mode.
- Fixed poor distribution of available shots for the "Enter Sandman" mode
when two or more shots have been completed.
- Added fuel lane extra ball.
- Changed the scoring for skill shot. Making the right top lane scores
double the points vs. making the left top lane. Changed the scoring
for super skill shot. Making a super skill shot increases the value
of the top lane skill shot.
- Added bonuses for collecting the required number of items (grave
markers, electric chairs, coffins, snakes) to light "Crank It Up".
- Increased the default high score for "Lady Justice" from 1.5M to 2.5M.
- Added more speech for combos.
- Shots used to start the coffin hurry-up are now available for points
and to reset the hurry-up value while the hurry-up is running.
- Added a display effect to show the mode selection after both flipper
buttons are pressed OR the mode select screen times out. This gives
the player some feedback, letting them know what mode they selected.
- Added magnet handling for the electric chair hit and multiball awards.
- Electric chair hit speech was being requested such that certain phrases
could be repeated. This has been corrected.
- Cleaned up some flasher entries. The left and right back panel flashers
have 3 flash lamps tied to the coil drive; this was not being reflected
in coil/flasher test and has been corrected. Added "L.E.D." text to the
electric chair spot flashers and the snake flashers, as these are L.E.D.
flash lamps.
- Electric chair hit speech only requested when the feature is advanced.
- Added a new stage to grave marker multiball. When the grave marker
is lit by making 5 shots (initially), shooting the grave marker awards
double jackpot and holds the ball 20-30 seconds (adjustable) for super
jackpot. Hitting the held ball with the other ball(s) in play awards
the super jackpot. While the timer is timing down, the four grave
marker shots (other than the grave marker itself) may be made for
points. These points add to the value of the super jackpot. Completing
all four shots while the timer is timing down increases the value of
the super jackpot multiplier by one. The super jackpot must be collected
to lock in the multiplier. The value of the multiplier is retained
throughout the course of the game.
- Consolidated combo display effect and METALLICA ramps display effect.
The combo display effect now also shows METALLICA letters.
- Cleaned up METALLICA letters and Lady Justice mode. Completing
"METALLICA" scores 2M (base). Scores increased for Lady Justice.
Reworked the start display effect. Added lamp effects. Cleaned up bugs.
The background display effect was showing the low value at the start of
the mode when the large value was available on both shots. Added speech.
Added an audit for the big value. Fixed up a bad frame of art. Score
font now rendered at the base of the scale instead of always at the
bottom. Handled error cases. Timer paused when necessary. Changed the
priority of the sound effects (these were being specified incorrectly).
Added lamps/sounds for the total display effect.
- Fixed up LOTS of beeped speech. All questionable speech that could be
considered "ADULT CONTENT" has been beeped out (including a couple that
came as a request from customers (crazy b*st*rd, for example).
- Added new fuel art.
- Added lamp/flasher blinking to the snake when he talks.
- Added an adjustment to enable/disable coffin locks during other
multiballs.
- Added additional levels to electric chair multiball. Once sparky has
been fried 7 times, all shots are lit for super jackpot. (See the
multiball background display for head count status on progress).
Progress is retained throughout the course of the game.
- Coffin hurry-up start on the loop shots now causes the ball to loop
around.
- Cross magnet ball search now ignores the cross opto switch for a period
of time.
- Added an adjustment to control the slingshot power.
- Added a special sound for draining during coffin multiball.
- Added instant info for mystery.
- Added "The End of the Line" (final wizard mode).
- Added "Crank It Up" modes. These include:
- "Battery" - (beat up sparky)
- "Fade To Black" - (shots/switches advance through thresholds that turn
the playfield darker)
- "For Whom The Bell Tolls" - (progressive shots)
- "Enter Sandman" - (shots change/hide, nightmare)
(need more speech!)
- Items (grave marker, electric chair, coffin, snake) are now recorded for
progress towards lighting the "Crank It Up". Once all items have been
collected (adjustable, currently 15 each), the "Crank It Up" mode select
is lit at the right scoop.
- Added Lady Justice (metallica ramps) champion. Added art to HSTD
displays for the Lady Justice mode and the Seek & Destroy mode.
- Electric chair multiball shot award now adds different meter units based
on the shot that was awarded.
- Fuel bar no longer advanced when a mode is active. Fuel can still be
spelled to light 2X playfield at the piston target.
- Shot features no longer lit or awarded when a mode is active.
- Items no longer awarded when a mode is active.
- Updates during game over no longer kill the game over music.
- Lady Justice mode start display effect is killed any time an award is
given. This keeps the start effect from appearing when it is no longer
relevant.
- Fixed a problem that would cause the wrong music to play when the
coffin hurry-up was started and the song that was selected at the start
of the game was not the music that was playing.
- Added items left to light "Crank It Up" (modes) to instant info.
- Reworked mystery. Completing the top/bottom lanes continues to light
mystery at the right scoop, but if the lanes are completed with mystery
already lit, then the mystery awards will improve. The mystery display
effect will scroll down and show the award at the proper depth on the
skull pile (depth of 1 for completing the lanes 1 time, depth of 2 for
completing the lanes 2 times, etc, down to level 4). The mystery awards
are:
- Points
- Add bonus x
- Hold bonus x
- Metallica letter
- Add grave markers
- Add electric chairs
- Add coffins
- Add snakes
- Light grave markers
- Light electric chairs
- Light coffins
- Light snakes
- Light coffin lock
- Award coffin lock
- Snake letter
- Light coffin hurry-up
- Start coffin hurry-up
- Light 2x playfield
- Add fuel
- Light extra ball
- Added super skill shot. This is available by holding in the left
flipper button when plunging the ball. The following shots are
available:
- Piston target: lights 2x playfield if not already lit/running.
- Left loop, grave marker lane, left ramp, right ramp, right loop:
all are lit for points; one is lit to light the coffin hurry-up.
- Right eject hole: lights mystery if it is not already lit.
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And I slept in Thanks Marty downloading now
Peter
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And I slept in Thanks Marty downloading now
Peter
Lucky you did, that's a hell of a lot of code and updates. Sounds like you are going to have a fun weekend.
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About time if better get downloading and have a game don't think I've played it since last update
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Days like this keep the Stern nay-sayers quiet. More proof right here that Stern are kicking goals and have it all over thier 'competitors'.
With this update and another due in a few weeks ,as well as the recent XMEN update AND talk of an Avengers update,it should provide confidence that this company does what it promises.
Going to grab it now.
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WOW 20 games in and its awesome thanks Stern ^^^ it did take to long but worth the wait you gotta love modern technology how with a simple update I have a new game just awesome no boring with the same game play these days. Its a huge update band modes and I love how sparky throws the ball back at you when hes hit awesome.
Peter ^^^
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Crank it up mode is EPIC lights dim choose a song woooo whoooo
Peter
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Days like this keep the Stern nay-sayers quiet. More proof right here that Stern are kicking goals and have it all over thier 'competitors'.
With this update and another due in a few weeks ,as well as the recent XMEN update AND talk of an Avengers update,it should provide confidence that this company does what it promises.
Going to grab it now.
Well said mate.
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Days like this keep the Stern nay-sayers quiet. More proof right here that Stern are kicking goals and have it all over thier 'competitors'.
With this update and another due in a few weeks ,as well as the recent XMEN update AND talk of an Avengers update,it should provide confidence that this company does what it promises.
Going to grab it now.
Well said mate.
Possibly. The game was released 11 months ago. If finishing games a year down the track of being sold is kicking a goal, then yep, Stern have nailed it.. ( just bringing it into perspective ^^^)
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Theres definately something wrong with me and not sure why I'm in this hobby. Two games and I turned it off WTF is wrong with me???
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Well I guess if you look at it from the glass half full perspective - with a Stern you often get a new game a year later with the code update. Kinda fun that way I guess, two for the price of one!!
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Thank f^@& they've finally given us an update.
Yes it's been awhile, but at least they haven't forgotten us Metallica owners.
I can't wait to install it now. #*#
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Theres definately something wrong with me and not sure why I'm in this hobby. Two games and I turned it off WTF is wrong with me???
Two games Dan you may not have seen any changes :-)
Peter
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I am just saying ( Gav ) that a number of us go into these purchases with eyes wide open - expecting to wait and also expecting that Stern will follow through - and they do.
There was so much negativity in the past over code releases/ unfinished game sales.......that I think the last few weeks have really brought things into perspective. At least Stern never goes out stating they will sell the greatest game ever , on time and complete, knowing full well that they cannot. They just get about thier business of releasing a new game every 4 months or so, put it out there for the market to decide on, sell it and then follow up with getting the game up to a state ( that it would appear ) 90+ % of Stern owners are happy with in the end.
I for one am VERY happy with that philosophy and style of business over a snake oil sale ANY day of the week ^^^
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I am just saying ( Gav ) that a number of us go into these purchases with eyes wide open - expecting to wait and also expecting that Stern will follow through - and they do.
There was so much negativity in the past over code releases/ unfinished game sales.......that I think the last few weeks have really brought things into perspective. At least Stern never goes out stating they will sell the greatest game ever , on time and complete, knowing full well that they cannot. They just get about thier business of releasing a new game every 4 months or so, put it out there for the market to decide on, sell it and then follow up with getting the game up to a state ( that it would appear ) 90+ % of Stern owners are happy with in the end.
I for one am VERY happy with that philosophy and style of business over a snake oil sale ANY day of the week ^^^
Its OK.. im not trying to rain on the parade.. I know Stern owners now expect this kind of deal when buying a machine and its now industry standard because of it. Personally though I really don't like the " sell now and catch up later" approach.. only and I mean ONLY pinball can get away with this.. any other type of business and this would be ridiculed... But... Metallica owners are all happy and that's the important thing and only now that's its a finished game can you truly evaluate it
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I am just saying ( Gav ) that a number of us go into these purchases with eyes wide open - expecting to wait and also expecting that Stern will follow through - and they do.
There was so much negativity in the past over code releases/ unfinished game sales.......that I think the last few weeks have really brought things into perspective. At least Stern never goes out stating they will sell the greatest game ever , on time and complete, knowing full well that they cannot. They just get about thier business of releasing a new game every 4 months or so, put it out there for the market to decide on, sell it and then follow up with getting the game up to a state ( that it would appear ) 90+ % of Stern owners are happy with in the end.
I for one am VERY happy with that philosophy and style of business over a snake oil sale ANY day of the week ^^^
Well said and may I add that rating games also needs frequent updating as nothing keepd still with modern pinball.
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Personally though I really don't like the " sell now and catch up later" approach.. only and I mean ONLY pinball can get away with this.. any other type of business and this would be ridiculed... But... Metallica owners are all happy and that's the important thing and only now that's its a finished game can you truly evaluate it
I look at differently Gav. The only thing that is changing is the code (software) and not hardware. Don't most software companies release updates and enhancements and charge you for them - Verision 2, 3, 4 etc..? I pay over $5k a year for my business software updates every year.
As frustrating as it gets with the delays, it gives a chance for Stern to listen to and implement ideas for improvements in the game play and ultimately the end user gets a better product imo.
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Theres definately something wrong with me and not sure why I'm in this hobby. Two games and I turned it off WTF is wrong with me???
Two games Dan you may not have seen any changes :-)
Peter
I noticed spark throwing the ball more that's about it.
Still not happy with the coffin lock hate the way you have to bounce the ball off something instead of a direct shot to get it to work
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Theres definately something wrong with me and not sure why I'm in this hobby. Two games and I turned it off WTF is wrong with me???
Two games Dan you may not have seen any changes :-)
Peter
I noticed spark throwing the ball more that's about it.
Still not happy with the coffin lock hate the way you have to bounce the ball off something instead of a direct shot to get it to work
Mate there's heaps of changes and I mean heaps :-) animation modes rules sounds timing and yes the magnet still doesn't grab the ball 100% but I'm not sure it's either meant to with a direct hit as the ball travels so fast in that small area? Slings have been powered down there much better oh and love how the grave magnet now holds the ball for super jackpot it just goes on and on I love it :-)
Peter
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I look at differently Gav. The only thing that is changing is the code (software) and not hardware. Don't most software companies release updates and enhancements and charge you for them - Verision 2, 3, 4 etc..? I pay over $5k a year for my business software updates every year.
As frustrating as it gets with the delays, it gives a chance for Stern to listen to and implement ideas for improvements in the game play and ultimately the end user gets a better product imo.
Yeah, other companies might release software for version upgrades... but if I released a product that advertised something (like a wizard mode, in this instance) and it wasn't available until a year after release I'd be ridiculed pretty heavily (and rightly so).
I'm happy for all the owners who finally got their update and it's now a full(er) game, but it seems like that Stockholm syndrome is coming on pretty strong IMO. At least the ST updates are for bug fixes and such. Entire (previously advertised at launch) game modes are being added with this update!
I do hope this is the last of this sort of practice we see from Stern. Like I said, Star Trek seemed to come out okay (although Mr. Ritchie had some strong words to say about the code the day it came out) but it's required fixes/changes felt like a nip/tuck compared to Metallica's full-blown-plastic-surgery-plus-massive-fake-tits required overhaul.
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I noticed spark throwing the ball more that's about it.
Still not happy with the coffin lock hate the way you have to bounce the ball off something instead of a direct shot to get it to work
Give it some more game time, if your not happy flip it and move on
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Call it Stockholm or what you will but this update has definitely lifted this game up a LONG LONG way.
There is a LOT going on ALL the time.
NOW it REALLY makes you think about your shots and whats best to ( try ) and shoot for when.
I have so far obtained Crank it Up on 2 or 3 occassions ( takes a lot of shots to get there ) and then you are presented with 4 new VERY playable , and from the ones I have played , very well thought out modes. I played Fade to Black and the 10,9,8,7.....countdowns that come on in the process of you trying to make shots REALLY put the pressure on you. I played Enter Sandman, made all the shots and had its Jackpot lit at the scoop - I went for it and got it and expected points, but no , I was presented with yet another choice ......accept my 38+ million Jackpot with the left flipper ( that was counting down like a hurry up while I stood thinking OR hit the right flipper and try and continue to play the mode over for the remaining 3+ minutes for obviously a chance at a larger jackpot OR lose the lot if not achieved- VERY cool.
Pretty impressive what I have seen so far.
Daniel - play some more games on it. It took me around 20+ to start discovering/ achieving this new stuff.
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Wow Watto, sounds like a massive update! Looking forward to my next game on Daniel's (hint) to try this one out.
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Wow Watto, sounds like a massive update! Looking forward to my next game on Daniel's (hint) to try this one out.
Just shoot me a text and if I'm home pop over your always welcome nick
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Wow Watto, sounds like a massive update! Looking forward to my next game on Daniel's (hint) to try this one out.
Just shoot me a text and if I'm home pop over your always welcome nick
Thanks mate!
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I just relised they removed those stupid call outs YEEESSSSSS I hated those ^&^
Peter
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I just relised they removed those stupid call outs YEEESSSSSS I hated those ^&^
Peter
Amazing how a simple programming change can enhance the overall play experience. You sound pretty excited; nice to see.
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I just relised they removed those stupid call outs YEEESSSSSS I hated those ^&^
Peter
Amazing how a simple programming change can enhance the overall play experience. You sound pretty excited; nice to see.
Yeah I'm very excited as this game had sooooo much potential and it's been realized like acdc was. I only have 3 games and the other two aren't getting played much :/)
Peter
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Had 60 million sitting in CIU with 2x running and fuel running decided to continue and risk the payout and then tilt faaaarrrrkkk no lol
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Dumb question how do you know what your doing? I just hit and hope?
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Dumb question how do you know what your doing? I just hit and hope?
I used to just hit the flashing lights lol but I spend alot of time on pinside now and everyone talks about rules so I pick them up that way :-) I love modes and deep rules luckily stern provide that so all good Metallica is now a master piece in my view.
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@.@Dumb question how do you know what your doing? I just hit and hope?
I used to just hit the flashing lights lol but I spend alot of time on pinside now and everyone talks about rules so I pick them up that way :-) I love modes and deep rules luckily stern provide that so all good Metallica is now a master piece in my view.
OK so clearly I don't have enough free time. Looks like ill just keep pushing the flipper buttons when the balls on the flippers lol
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I read Pinside, I read the strategies, I get to the game and the strategy is nowhere to be found in my head. I get a few different multiballs and then walk away wondering why I only hit 49 million and no major high score. I need pinmaster Pete to give me some training I think. My machine is also an unforgiving drain monster and my nudging skills are hopeless. My love-hate relationship with my Metallica. It keeps me coming back for more.
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New songs are up ^^^
V1.51 - March 17, 2014
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- Loop diverter post NOT activated from shooter lane when a ball is being
held on the cross magnet for super jackpot.
- Added "Blackened" and "Ride The Lightning" to the list of songs that
may be selected at the beginning of the game. These were the songs that
were chosen by Metallica fans.
See http://www.metallica.com/news/20140219-605356.asp for more details.
- Implemented an adjustment to vary the music that plays during Electric
Chair / Sparky multiball. The options are:
CREEPING DEATH - Always play "Creeping Death".
RIDE THE LIGHTNING - Always play "Ride The Lightning".
ALTERNATE C.D./R.T.L. - Play "Creeping Death" for the first
multiball; play "Ride The Lightning" for
the second multiball; ...
(This is the default setting.)
ALTERNATE R.T.L./C.D. - Play "Ride The Lightning" for the first
multiball; play "Creeping Death" for the
second multiball; ...
RANDOM - Randomly choose either "Creeping Death"
or "Ride The Lightning". Both songs have
an equal chance of being chosen.
- Fixed a problem with the FUEL random award that was allowing fuel to be
added at the wrong time.
- Fixed a bug in the algorithm that selects the fake mystery awards to
display such that it no longer displays the "INVALID" award.
- Due to the lack of spinners on the PRO (bummer), the number of switch
hits required to drop to the next level for the "Fade To Black" mode has
been reduced from 20 to 15.
- Added speech for Crank It Up mode collect.
- Added magnet toss to "Battery" mode electric chair hit.
- Crank It Up modes and The End Of The Line were causing the selected song
to restart from the beginning. This has been corrected.
- Added progress bar to Crank It Up collect/continue display effect.
Formatted the time remaining with a leading (-).
- Added kickout warnings for the snake eject and the right eject. Fixed a
bug in the logic that was sending out speech for one player's score being
much lower than everyone else's.
- Added 4th sparky fry animation. Tweaked lamp effects.
- The "For Whom The Bell Tolls" mode was not resetting the song position
to the beginning when the mode was started. This has been corrected.
- Added (adjustable, may be turned off) ball saver to the modes. The
default is 10 seconds.
- Added kickout warning sounds and lamp effects for the snake eject and
the right eject.
- Battery mode was requesting adult content speech with the ADULT CONTENT
adjustment set to NO. This has been corrected.
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New code out for Metallica:
V1.6 - June 5, 2014
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- Added "Blackened" (target) mode for collecting all of the band members.
- Added an adjustment to award extra coffins from the captive ball. The
default is "+1 W/ RETURN LANE" which will award 1 extra coffin if the
captive ball is hit within ~2.5 seconds of a return lane switch.
- Corrected some loop logic.
- Lowered 2nd+ combo extra balls from 100 combos to 50 combos. Lowered
the 2nd+ fuel lane extra balls from 40 pistons to 30 pistons.
- Skill shot and super skill shot lamp effects were (occasionally) not going
away when their respective awards were no longer available. (This was
noticeable when the mystery eject was made for super skill shot.)
- Reworked the guitar pick targets rule. Collected band members carry
over from ball to ball. Sets of band members reworked to require more
completions next time around, but not as brutal as before.
- Added settings for snake eject kick and right eject kick power settings.
- Changed the increment for the item requirements for qualifying Crank It
Up from 1-5 to 1-3.
- Added new right eject ramp-up sound for the right eject kickout.
- Added adjustments for the cross magnet and the electric chair magnet so
the user can turn off or lighten the magnet effects.
- Added an adjustment for the number of shots required during the super
jackpot stage of cross multiball to bump the super jackpot multiplier.
The old (hard-coded) default was 4; this has been lowered to 3 to make
it easier to increase the multiplier. (Adjustment range: 2-4).
- Fixed a problem with setting the slingshot power during factory reset.
- The slingshot power was not being updated after the adjustment was
changed in the game adjustments menu -- it was only ever updated at
power-up. This has been corrected.
- Fixed a problem with mystery. The "electric chair" awards were displaying
the coffin icon, and the "coffin" awards were displaying electric chair
icons.
- Increased "Fade To Black" units per level on the PRO from 10 to 15.
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Looks like a cool update it's getting great reviews on pinside ^^^
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I was very happy with Metallica but after this latest code update it really is a kick bottom game. It is still the only machine that my loyr old will play. There has been plenty of machines come through my doors but I could never get him into Pinball. Metallica has achieved that and for this I am very grateful.
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Is this Table out for Visual Pinball?
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Is this Table out for Visual Pinball?
No, but there is a different Metallica version available for Future Pinball.
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New code out for Metallica today (pro readme below)
V1.64 - April 23, 2015
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- Seek & Destroy mode has been changed so it now awards 1 cross,
1 snake, and 1 electric chair each time one of the main shots (left
loop, cross lane, left ramp, right ramp, right loop) is made when
lit. This allows progress towards lighting "Crank It Up" during
Seek & Destroy. This rule change also solves the problem of not
being able to light the snake to collect SNAKE letters during
Seek & Destroy, since only a shot on the playfield would allow this.
- Boosted Seek & Destroy scores from 750k to 1M (seek shot) and 375k
to 500k (regular shot).
- Added lamp status on the sparky lamps for electric chair multiball
and battery mode that indicate progress toward lighting the super
jackpot and completing the mode, respectively.
- Added art to the combo high score to date display effect in the
attract mode. Changed the font for the combo award and the combo
jackpot award.
- Increased lady justice "big value" score.
- Added design team members to the default (factory reset) HSTD.
- Increased the display/lamp/sound priorities for the multiball modes
(Coffin, Cross, Electric Chair, Snake). Previously, these were the
same as Fuel/Seek & Destroy, which caused interference. The priority
for Coffin was set to something higher than Cross/Electric Chair/Snake,
as Coffin is rare to get, and alternates between shots and the captive
ball (so there will be opportunity to see Cross/Electric Chair/Snake
effects on the shots when Coffin is available on the captive ball).
- Changed the names of the diagnostic buttons (these are translated now).
- Fixed a problem with the mystery sound effect not coming through due
to higher priority sound effects from previous effects taking too long
to finish up.
- Removed track #4 from outlane drain sound so big effects will not get
cut off.
- Fixed text running off the display.
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So Marty, does this make the game rock even more. Can't remember the last code I played and I loved the game then.
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this is a fun video - only pinball related thing is Metallica but alot of fun.
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I just ordered a Premium Monster from AMD on Tuesday. For those owners out there, what are the mod's you'd recommend? I've ordered with the Sub woofer, mirror blades and Shaker. Also have cliffy's coming and colour dmd will likely be next but I'd love to hear what other people have enjoyed doing to their games.
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congratulations on the new game... ^^^
here is a few ideas
http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=10593.new#new
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congratulations on the new game... ^^^
Thanks Jady, I won't see it until the end of February so I have to hold my excitement for a little while. Really looking forward to it though.
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I just ordered a Premium Monster from AMD on Tuesday. For those owners out there, what are the mod's you'd recommend? I've ordered with the Sub woofer, mirror blades and Shaker. Also have cliffy's coming and colour dmd will likely be next but I'd love to hear what other people have enjoyed doing to their games.
Good one Adam your love it-definitely one of Sterns best titles.
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not sure if the newer ones have them, i upgraded all the flashers to Leds, massive improvement, color dmd is a must ^^^
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Good tip Luke about flashers-I used these bad boys lol
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170107/d68b108166dbc9a333fc29687127257c.jpg)
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Do you tend to use the white or coloured flashers?
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was a while ago, mainly cool white around sparky & flex ones behind the back panel, used blue at the back of the grave markers, a green behind the snake ()
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Congrats I'm still iching to pull the trigger and get one. New mets I am to understand have leds. Welcome to the 2000's era of pinball. Btw my bags are packed for Albury.
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was a while ago, mainly cool white around sparky & flex ones behind the back panel, used blue at the back of the grave markers, a green behind the snake ()
Great, thanks. I think I'll just get an assortment ready and swap them around until I like what I see.
Congrats I'm still iching to pull the trigger and get one. New mets I am to understand have leds. Welcome to the 2000's era of pinball. Btw my bags are packed for Albury.
Thanks Rob. We're over at Batemans Bay at the moment but back soon, you're always welcome to drop by.
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Only kidding mate too busy working atm.
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Another big code update today, nice!
V1.80.0 - November 16, 2018
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- Reworked ball locked lamp effect.
- Captive ball extra ball #1 (default for auto setting) lowered to 10
hits (from 15 hits).
- Combo champion # of combos lowered to 10 combos (from 20 combos).
- Added new marker to The End Of The Line music for better shooter groove.
- One (lady justice) mode was not being restarted when a shot was made
during the mode. This has been corrected.
- Added a "reset timer" adjustment for the One (lady justice) mode.
- Added combo lights adjustment. Default is FLASH ONCE (show lamps once
for a small period of time, then turn the lights off). Other settings:
ALWAYS and NONE. Competition + Director's Cut are set to FLASH ONCE.
- Coffin hurry-up now leaves all shots lit to reset the hurry-up score
when multiple hurry-ups are available instead of requiring the player
to complete them individually before they all re-light.
- "The End Of The Line" song is now selectable at the start of the game
if the player has made it to "The End Of The Line" (the 5th Crank It Up
mode).
- Shot features shot lit (the blinking arrow at the start of the ball)
will no longer move to a shot that is ready to start the coffin hurry-up,
nor will it move to a shot that is associated with a currently running
coffin hurry-up.
- Super skill shot to light a shot for the coffin hurry-up will now always
be on the active shot for lighting items (the blinking arrow at the start
of the ball).
- Reworked guitar pick target lamps. The unscored lamps now blink only
when they are available to light the snake lock (and during Blackened).
Otherwise, the unscored lamps are OFF.
- Added explosion sounds to the start of the fuel mode.
- Changed the sound for completing a pop bumper to something slightly
louder.
- Reworked song transition markers for "Sad But True" so more of the song
can be heard.
- Added lamp effects for "The End Of The Line" super jackpot.
- Added shaker motor effects to "The End Of The Line".
- Shortened the extra ball and replay effects during multiball and "The
End Of The Line".
- Fixed the timing of the snake bite sound at the start of the long
version of the extra ball display effect.
- Added more speech for snake lock.
- Added snake talk scripts (ADULT CONTENT and BEEPED) for completing the
guitar pick targets when doing so lights the snake lock during multiball
or during "The End Of The Line". This was implemented, but the scripts
were missing from the snake script table.
- Updated some HSTD initials.
- Crank It Up modes now wait for collect/continue to finish obtaining
user input before terminating. This allows the player to "collect" the
mode points even though the song (mode) has technically ended.
- Changed the Crank It Up default collect/continue relight difficulty
from EASY to HARD. This requires the player to re-collect the Cross,
Electric Chair, Coffin, and Snake to relight collect/continue during
the Crank It Up mode.
- Some work on The End of the Line:
- Starts as a 2-ball multiball.
- The music does not start until the mode start animation has
finished playing.
- Removed the timer. The mode will continue running during single
ball play.
- Added mystery award for single ball play. This awards the first
available shot from left to right (even if that shot is the super
jackpot).
- If the mode is played through until the song ends at 7:51, the
flippers are turned off and the balls are collected.
- The first part of the rule has been changed from all 6 shots lit
to light the super jackpot to 1 shot lit to light the first super
jackpot, 2 shots lit to light the second super jackpot, etc. up
to a maximum of all 6 shots lit to light the sixth super jackpot.
If an unlit shot is made during this stage, that shot will light
to advance to the next stage (super jackpot).
- Removed "failed" super jackpot award display effect and moved it
to "ended". (This is the animation of the car not making the jump
and crashing at the bottom of the canyon.)
- Removed the failed shots from the second stage (super jackpot).
There is now only one shot available during this stage (the super
jackpot); it moves around randomly.
- Removed some audits (super jackpot failed, completed). The mode
cannot be completed, it can only be played until the song ends.
- Added jackpot speech.
- Added super jackpot lit speech.
- Added instructions to the start display effect.
- Added instructions/status to the background display effect.
- Changed the scoring for the super jackpot. The first super
jackpot awards the total points scored during the first Crank
It Up mode played. The second super jackpot awards the total
points scored during the first Crank It Up mode played plus
the total points scored during the second Crank It Up mode
played, ... etc.
- Corrected the mode tune. The full song is now played from the
beginning, and it ends in silence.
- A ball is added when lighting the super jackpot and for scoring the
super jackpot, always.
- Added logic to shut down some rules, as this rule is not covered
under the normal multiball handling (it can be single ball play)).
- Added item collects (Cross, Electric Chair, Coffin, Snake) to light
collect/continue.
- Added collect/continue so the mode can be ended (it does not end
normally when play goes down to single ball). Collect/continue is
only available during single ball play.
- Snake lock for 2x scoring now allowed.
- Reworked the replay effect so it is more efficient.
- Shortened the replay effect if the replay is awarded during bonus (as
a result of the bonus putting the player over the replay score).
- Inhibited the trailing "free game" speech at the end of the replay
effect if the replay effect is run immediately after bonus.
- Added small explosion sound for completing a pop bumper.
- Broke out right eject kick settings into TIME and POWER. This gives
better resolution/control over the behavior of the kick.
- Added a setting to carry over the fuel lane (piston) awards (lights)
from ball to ball.
- Changed default cross hits from 2 to 1.
- Changed default item requirements for Crank It Up from 15 to 12.
- Fixed a bug in the Blackened mode where the super jackpot light would
stay lit (blinking) after it was collected and no longer available.
- Added a custom sound previewer when changing the MODE COMPLETION SOUND
adjustment so the user can preview the sound before having to try it out
in the game.
- Implemented alternate Crank-It-Up completion sounds. The sound that
is played when "completing" a Crank-It-Up mode is controlled by a new
game-specific adjustment: "CRANK IT UP COMPL. SOUND". The sound that is
played is a new sound that is more appropriate for a Metallica (https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/) game
(less fanfare-y, more metal-y).
- Game over effects are now killed when entering test mode.
- Fixed a bug in the auto-percentaged extra ball module that would
sometimes set the extra ball values (captive ball hits, combos) to an
out of range value.
- Mystery award text now expedited when the mystery award display effect
is blown off.
- Flipper blowoff for mystery locks the last frame so the player can see
the award.
- Score type changed from 32-bit to 64-bit.
- Updated to new game versioning scheme.
- "The End Of The Line" mode background lamps now higher than BLACKENED
lamps.
- Fuel mode start was also scoring the first letter of "FUEL" for
lighting double scoring during "FUEL". This has been corrected.
- If all piston lights are blinking and the fuel lane target is hit
then the score value is doubled.
- Changed fuel lane scoring. Changed fuel lane "blown pistons" so a
blown piston is awarded for each light that is lit instead of only
awarding one blown piston for any number of lights lit.
- Increased the priority of the fuel lane target hit display effect
so the extra ball lit display effect would not cut it off.
- The three lights by the fuel lane are now reset when the blown pistons
are collected.
- Fixed an issue with the skill shot where the 2x right lane award was
not being re-enabled on short plunges.
- Fixed an issue where fading the music volume would cause the music
to cut out entirely (bonus, game over).
- Snake multiball background display effect was not showing the correct
shot value when the super jackpots were lit. This has been corrected.
- Lowered the score for the snake multiball super jackpot.