The Aussie Pinball Arcade

Aussie Pinball Forums => Restorations => Topic started by: el_timbo86 on March 27, 2014, 11:03:32 PM

Title: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: el_timbo86 on March 27, 2014, 11:03:32 PM
Hi guys,

This is a VERY brief overview of a Guns n Roses we have just completed at work. The game came in and was complete, but generally pretty tired.
The client had begun collecting parts here and there which really helped us out. Tough to find items like the topper and a solid 'R' ramp were supplied along with the base unit for restoration.

I hope the following overview shines a light on a few of the major challenges of the project...

Base game delivered by the client
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img001-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img001-1.jpg.html)

The first thing we do is go over the starting platform. Its great when the client can deliver the game as it serves as an opportunity to talk through the expectations and goals of the
restore. Here are a few of the major issues with the game upon early inspection...

Cabinet is very tired...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img005-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img005-1.jpg.html)

Backbox splitting in the corners...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img002-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img002-1.jpg.html)

Light corrosion throughout the game...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img006-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img006-1.jpg.html)

Backside is pretty bad too...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img003-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img003-1.jpg.html)

Factory powder was chipped out etc but we are going with more of a gloss look for this example...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img004-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img004-1.jpg.html)

Fast forward through, the cabinet is gutted and moved into the restoration stage...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img009-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img009-1.jpg.html)

The playfield is stripped and mechs are broken down to be tumbled, polished or re-plated. Plastic hardware is washed, cleaned and bagged up, and same goes for the wiring harness...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img008-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img008-1.jpg.html)

Playfield almost stripped...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img010-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img010-1.jpg.html)

Various parts cleaned, refinished and set aside for rebuild...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img012-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img012-1.jpg.html)

Taking a look at the playfield, there were a number of problem areas, most notably the GNR logo in the center of the field. It deals with a lot of traffic from the 3 magnets dragging
the ball(s) around the surface, as well as the Axl kick out running the ball right out across the area. Add in the fact that the Data East inserts are notorious for lifting/separating and
you have a nice major repair to take care of.

Here is an overview of the area and damage...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img007-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img007-1.jpg.html)

Detail...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img013-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img013-1.jpg.html)

More detail...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img015-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img015-1.jpg.html)

If you look closely the halftone effect gives a deeper yellow in the middle of the logo, and a bright yellow on the outer edges, so this is replicated as closely as possible...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img016-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img016-1.jpg.html)

This is the completed repair (before clear)...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img020-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img020-1.jpg.html)

During this time we also repair any structural damage and refresh some minor issues...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img017-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img017-1.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img018-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img018-1.jpg.html)

The cabinet restoration continues and at this point the cabinet is ready to be built with the restored components...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img024-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img024-1.jpg.html)

Pictured here...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img022-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img022-1.jpg.html)

On many of our games, i try to add some better serviceability than what the factory offered. Making small molex looms for many of the 'upkeep' mechs (flippers etc) really makes the process easier down the track for clients. They are also commonly found connections in pinball machines so they can be tucked away into the loom and dont look 'wrong'...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img026-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img026-1.jpg.html)

Installed...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img027-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img027-1.jpg.html)

Fast forward again the underside of the playfield is built and the playfield is paired once again with the cabinet...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img025-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img025-1.jpg.html)

Pictured here the game is almost there...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img028-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img028-1.jpg.html)

I dont often go the LED route but on some titles i can see the need. I made a small kit up consisting mostly of cool white; while steering away from too many colours etc. The game is powered and we go through the process of dialing the game in. Again, AP favourite and all round nice guy ddstoys needs the credit here, thanks for everything as always mate...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img032-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img032-1.jpg.html)

Just to give an idea of the look...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img031-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img031-1.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img033-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img033-1.jpg.html)

So the following photo set is just our shameless outside photography. Its a good way for us to document the results and it helps close the lid on another job.
Again just a big thanks to all the guys on here that lend a hand and share their knowledge to make these projects possible. Notably...

Stuart
ddstoys
Pinnies4me
Strangeways (APR)
ktm450
MartyJ
Greg - Without RTBB running this business is Australia wouldn't be possible (thanks Greg).

Thanks for reading guys.

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img035-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img035-1.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img036-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img036-1.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img040-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img040-1.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img041-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img041-1.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img043-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img043-1.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img042-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img042-1.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img048-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img048-1.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img049-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img049-1.jpg.html)

We altered the standard Date East texture apron to gloss to tie in more with the rest of the game...
(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img051-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img051-1.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img047-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img047-1.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img050-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img050-1.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img056-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img056-1.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img055.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img055.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img054.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img054.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img059-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img059-1.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img057-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img057-1.jpg.html)

(http://i374.photobucket.com/albums/oo189/el_timbo86/img060-1.jpg) (http://s374.photobucket.com/user/el_timbo86/media/img060-1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: pinnies4me on March 27, 2014, 11:23:51 PM


That is awesome man - beautiful indeed!
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: Crashramp on March 27, 2014, 11:25:06 PM
Beautiful work as always there Tim.  @@*
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: Retropin on March 27, 2014, 11:40:47 PM
Nice airbrush work.. have addressed the kick out wear on GnR myself and it takes good air brush skills to replicate.
Finished game looks just brilliant..
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: Replay on March 27, 2014, 11:52:22 PM
Nice work! Love the new coin door too
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: Slash on March 28, 2014, 12:13:03 AM
Looks great, the cabinet artwork really shines. Did you spray a clear on it or something?
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: Pintoxicated on March 28, 2014, 08:31:56 AM
Very very nice once again Tim.
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: GORGAR 1 on March 28, 2014, 08:56:44 AM
Awesome work on a fantastic game can't wait to play gunners again :-)

Peter
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: oldskool1969 on March 28, 2014, 10:00:25 AM
As a hobbyist, I love these pro threads. Something to aspire to.
AWESOME  #*#
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: Strangeways on March 28, 2014, 11:57:52 AM
Stunning result Timbo. Best Gunners in the country, possibly the planet !

Title: Re: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: MartyJ on March 28, 2014, 12:02:15 PM
Excellence.

Well done outstanding attention to detail.
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: Caveoftreasures on March 28, 2014, 12:12:17 PM
Best restorer in the country.

Cant wait to see the Pinball Wars.lol

Timbo versus Nino. Same title. same rough condition. same amount of time to fix with one helper each.

Machines to be presented at a charity function and machines auctioned off to charity.

Who will stand alone as the final winner, crowned the RESTORATION King. (drum roles music in the background)

IRON CHEF  now goes to Iron Pinball RESTORER !

Well done to all the restorers out there doing great jobs for this fine hobby ! incl Timbo ofcourse.
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: pinballheaven on March 28, 2014, 12:13:45 PM
Tim, unbelievable work mate, looks amazing indeed! ^^^
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: Dimsims on March 28, 2014, 01:08:33 PM
Well Done, it doesn't get better then this  ^^^

Makes me what to go and buy more pins  :D
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: delarge on March 28, 2014, 01:40:23 PM
I love this machine and it's always so deserving of a good restoration. What an awesome job!

Inspired me to play mine on the weekend.

Cheers!
Adam.
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: riverinapinball on March 28, 2014, 03:51:41 PM
Man.. That Awesome!
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: Toads on March 28, 2014, 06:47:48 PM
Great work again Tim. Lock down bar does look better in gloss.
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: clickaus on March 28, 2014, 09:18:58 PM
That looks awesome mate nice work
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: Tank01 on March 31, 2014, 01:30:56 AM
Tim, That is Awesome. Love reading the HRP resto threads.  ^^^
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: Redback on March 31, 2014, 06:43:57 AM
Great work!

Thanks for showing what is possible,

Red
Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: 4_amusement_only on March 31, 2014, 07:17:07 PM
Huge amount of talented effort shown there...looks too blingy for mine with the gloss instead of wrinkle finish and other non original finish elements. More of an enhancement than resto IMO.

Still, brought it up to the highest finish possible. Great stuff

Title: Re: HRP Guns n Roses Black...
Post by: ktm450 on April 01, 2014, 02:05:09 PM
Well done Tim, another awesome restoration, better than new  *%*