Pinball 2000 question

[felixthadog]

Please excuse my n00biness, but why was RFM released under the 'Bally' name and SWEP1 released under the 'Williams' name? 

Matthew

[indazone gav]

I could be wrong but I think that towards the end all pins were badged on rotation. ie, 1 Bally then next Williams then Bally then Williams and so on and so forth.

[Strangeways]

Please excuse my n00biness, but why was RFM released under the 'Bally' name and SWEP1 released under the 'Williams' name? 

Matthew

not such a N00bie question, Matt - I've never really noticed - so I'm keen to find out the real reason !

[pinnies4me]

I think indazone gav is right, it was just a rotation thing.

[pinball god]

I'm pretty sure it was to keep both names/divisions out there in the marketplace. There was talk that pin2000 being the more expensive "premium" model would eventually be marketed under the Williams banner and bally dedicated to the dmd models.

[pinballist]

I was googling for WMS repair info and a link led me to the WMS website - of course the link was no longer there, however, while I was there I clicked on the "Our Story" link and found:

Our Story
Success Is Created By Those Who Dare To Change The Game
WMS has played a decisive role in games and entertainment since Harry Williams founded his Chicago-based company in 1943. A Stanford engineering graduate who devised the “tilt” mechanism for pinball machines, Williams changed the nature of pinball in wartime America. He and his firm had an unsurpassed ability to devise new game features and stay in touch with the changing tastes of the amusement market. The company retained this inherent strength when it entered the home video market in the 1980’s and, eventually, casino-style gaming in the early 1990’s..

How f*cking sad is that; 50 years of WMS pinball history condensed into two vague sentences 

[MrMaloo]

I'd thought the same thing Matt . Had seen RFM's for sale on ebay etc. with the title as "Bally RFM.." and thought it was either a typo or them trying to get people confusing it with AFM . Hadn't really noticed that they were badged as Bally until now . Weird.

[pinball god]

I'd thought the same thing Matt . Had seen RFM's for sale on ebay etc. with the title as "Bally RFM.." and thought it was either a typo or them trying to get people confusing it with AFM . Hadn't really noticed that they were badged as Bally until now . Weird.

That would explain why RFM was marketed under Bally seeing if was basically a concept copy of AFM to quickly get RFM on the market for P2000