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TAITO COCKTAIL KEYS
« on: August 18, 2011, 01:08:40 PM »
Hi,
 
Hope someone can help me I'm after keys for my Taito Cocktail, on the locks the number is 7800 is printed so of course I'll pay.
 
Thx
 
Peter

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Re: TAITO COCKTAIL KEYS
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2011, 01:31:01 PM »
Good luck Pete I tried getting keys cut for my table asthey have some strange lock setup and the wanker locksmith lost the lock grrrrr

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Re: TAITO COCKTAIL KEYS
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2011, 06:45:40 PM »

They will most likely be tubular locks. I have the machne that can cut these keys if you have the original.
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Re: TAITO COCKTAIL KEYS
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2011, 07:51:34 PM »
If you are handy and have a key to use, you can re-key these locks.

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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2011, 08:53:36 PM »

They will most likely be tubular locks. I have the machne that can cut these keys if you have the original.

I don't have a key Nino was hoping someone else may have a similar machine with the same lock code there couldn't have been many codes would there?

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Re: TAITO COCKTAIL KEYS
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2011, 08:56:02 PM »
If you are handy and have a key to use, you can re-key these locks.

I wonder if a locksmith could cut me one if i take the lock in? just thought it would be easier if someone had the same lock number

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Re: TAITO COCKTAIL KEYS
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2011, 10:53:42 PM »
If you are handy and have a key to use, you can re-key these locks.

I wonder if a locksmith could cut me one if i take the lock in? just thought it would be easier if someone had the same lock number

Thx Peter

all depends - it could be the original lock and key - and only one set would have been made.
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Re: TAITO COCKTAIL KEYS
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2011, 07:15:20 PM »
If you are handy and have a key to use, you can re-key these locks.

I wonder if a locksmith could cut me one if i take the lock in? just thought it would be easier if someone had the same lock number

Thx Peter

all depends - it could be the original lock and key - and only one set would have been made.

Hmmm, never had much luck with locksmiths.
He would have to take the lock apart to cut a new key, could be costly.
New locks usually sell for $5 to $10 so its probably not worth it, I imagine the old lock is a bit rusty looking after 30 years anyway.

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Re: TAITO COCKTAIL KEYS
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2011, 11:11:04 PM »
Yeah will buy new ones I thought I'd try and keep them original and actually there in pretty good nick , why are the keys always gone do the ops throw them when they sell them.

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Re: TAITO COCKTAIL KEYS
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2011, 11:22:02 PM »
Yeah will buy new ones I thought I'd try and keep them original and actually there in pretty good nick , why are the keys always gone do the ops throw them when they sell them.

Peter
I think they have several machines with the same keys, so they don't want to give away any keys that will unlock their other machines.

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Re: TAITO COCKTAIL KEYS
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2011, 01:02:25 AM »
Yeah will buy new ones I thought I'd try and keep them original and actually there in pretty good nick , why are the keys always gone do the ops throw them when they sell them.

Peter
I think they have several machines with the same keys, so they don't want to give away any keys that will unlock their other machines.

Correct !

When I was 8-10 years old, I remember the massive bunches of keyrings with keys attached for every game on every location. All new games had original locks, that were not keyed alike. A unique key for every machine. So I guess at some point in the late 70's, Dad made a decision to have a "universal" key created. So he went to a locksmith and paid a fee to have a key created that was unique to him. No one can have this key replicated without his permission. He ended up doing this for several different keys and had the locks mass produced. Over time, hundreds of machines had their locks changed. The only keys that could open these locks were his "custom" keys.

There is a massive box that weights more than I do - full of original Bally / Gottlieb / Stern / Williams / Taito / Midway / Atari locks AND keys - because they were removed and replaced by the universal locks. The idea was to replace the bunches of keys with only 3 - 4 keys that opened all games.

As I've restored machines - Videos and pinballs, I've located the original locks and keys and removed the universal lock and key. I still have hundreds of locks and keys. In fact, I have the keys with labels for each machine - so there is a history of many games that are well and truly gone. But I know what games were operated in the old days. I have a set of original KISS, Space Invaders, Harlem Globetrotters and Paragon  - just to name a few..

Peter - I might have a set of original Cocktail table lock and keys that you might find useful. Can you post a picture of the mechanism ?

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Re: TAITO COCKTAIL KEYS
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2011, 11:35:30 AM »
Thanks Nino for the offer heres a picture of the lock mech hope it helps.

Peter


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Re: TAITO COCKTAIL KEYS
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2011, 01:14:20 PM »

Peter - You might be able to remove the barrel and replace it with a standard pinball lock. Just ensure the tongue fits. I'd remove the locks and measure the depth. If it is the same depth, then it should be easy. I don't have that lock, but we should still be ok..
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Re: TAITO COCKTAIL KEYS
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2011, 01:29:38 PM »

Peter - You might be able to remove the barrel and replace it with a standard pinball lock. Just ensure the tongue fits. I'd remove the locks and measure the depth. If it is the same depth, then it should be easy. I don't have that lock, but we should still be ok..

Ok thx mate will do

Peter

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Re: TAITO COCKTAIL KEYS
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2011, 09:47:46 PM »

Peter - You might be able to remove the barrel and replace it with a standard pinball lock. Just ensure the tongue fits. I'd remove the locks and measure the depth. If it is the same depth, then it should be easy. I don't have that lock, but we should still be ok..

Pinball lock or arcade lock?

The type of lock mech in the photo takes a standard barrel type arcade lock with a 6mm threaded shaft with flats on both sides.
It should be 22mm long.