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Aussie Pinball Forums => General Discussion => Introduce Yourself => Topic started by: beaky on March 12, 2009, 10:57:54 PM
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Hi Guys.
New to this site.
I just bought a Swords Of fury for $2000
and a complete set of insert decals to suit SOF for $50 including postage.
I also own a williams FIRE! which I am about to restore.
I payed $1000 for the fire including delivery.
The only problem with the fire was it had no sound and it wouldn't start when you pressed the start button which took about 5 minutes to fix, to plugs on the P.C. boards where in the wrong place, I swaped them around and hey presto it started and it has sound now but has a humming sound when all lights are on,the more lights that are on on the playfield the louder the hum.
I have had the fire! for just over a year now.
I used to play Swords Of Fury when i was 18 (1988)
I used to work at 10-4 and Flashback In swanston st. Melbourne as a cashier / pinball Tech.
It was my dream job back then. One of my tasks back then was once a month I had to clean and test every pinball playfield and video game monitor.
I was instructed by my boss to test (PLAY) every machine properly for at least 10 minutes each to ensure they had no hidden faults.
Gee that was hard work (NOT).
Ahh the good ol' days when you would be so excited when they brought in a brand new williams machine.
My favorite Pinnies are Black Knight 2000, Swords of fury, Pinbot, Highspeed, Black Knight, Pharaoh, Fire Power 2, Space Invaders (pinball) and Paragon.
Any way hope to talk to you guys soon.
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Welcome Beaky! Great introduction, so I moved it for you over to the introduce yourself area so other members won't miss it in the other thread.
Enjoy the forum.
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welcome mate %)%
the SOF will be sent in the morning , dont let MM see it was you that got it
good to see you joined up , really they are a nice lot here ....... (just watch out for that Mod Pinnes4 me) ......
thanks
mark
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%)% to the forum. well purchased too (Swords of Fury). Lots of interesting stuff on this site so enjoy!
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Nice purchase there. Welcome to the forum, lots of fun and help available around here.
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$.$ Beaky and %)% to the Forums !
Nice intro post - One question - "Flashbacks" or "10 / 4" - was that the arcade in Swanston st that you had to walk down a set of stairs and turn left ?
If you turned right, you would be in a MacDonalds store ?
Nice pick-up with the SoF - I had a few games on that before it left !
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$.$ Beaky and %)% to the Forums !
Nice intro post - One question - "Flashbacks" or "10 / 4" - was that the arcade in Swanston st that you had to walk down a set of stairs and turn left ?
If you turned right, you would be in a MacDonalds store ?
Nice pick-up with the SoF - I had a few games on that before it left !
I worked at both, flash back (next to Mc Donalds down the stairs and turn right for F-B) and 10-4 (up stairs on two levels further down the road) they were both on swanston st and were both owned by the same company.
(fyi) When the video game After Burner was brought to these 2 amusement centers they used a safe moving company ( the ones that install money safes not the ones that just had safe a work inviroment) to bring these machines up and down the stairs.
10- 4was a mission when new pinball machines came in as most of the pinball machines were on the second floor and we didn't have a lift there.
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Geez nealy nearly every member here has played teh SOF hope is clean *)* *)*
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Geez nealy nearly every member here has played teh SOF hope is clean *)* *)*
I hope it was cleaned before it was sent ^&^
was it?
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Welcome Mate. And nice score with the SOF and i wouldnt worry if you got it from Mark you will be happy with it for sure
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The SOF is a very nice clean machine. The other Marty (MM) was super upset he missed out!
I've never played a Fire machine....I do like the look of them....Looking forward to seeing the resto thread!
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Hi & welcome Beaky!
Matthew
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$.$ Beaky and %)% to the Forums !
Nice intro post - One question - "Flashbacks" or "10 / 4" - was that the arcade in Swanston st that you had to walk down a set of stairs and turn left ?
If you turned right, you would be in a MacDonalds store ?
Nice pick-up with the SoF - I had a few games on that before it left !
I worked at both, flash back (next to Mc Donalds down the stairs and turn right for F-B) and 10-4 (up stairs on two levels further down the road) they were both on swanston st and were both owned by the same company.
(fyi) When the video game After Burner was brought to these 2 amusement centers they used a safe moving company ( the ones that install money safes not the ones that just had safe a work inviroment) to bring these machines up and down the stairs.
10- 4was a mission when new pinball machines came in as most of the pinball machines were on the second floor and we didn't have a lift there.
I used to catch a train into the city to play the pins at Flashbacks. There used to be a Haunted House and a Spirit next to each other in 1983. I was totally fascinated by the both of them - But the were never BOTH operational at the same time. I had no interest in the other games, just these two. A couple of times I went there JUST to play Spirit. For YEARS, I wanted BOTH machines in my gamesroom and be fully operational. The only person I knew with both games was Marco (Pinfan), and when I saw them again (at Marco's), it brought back a flood of memories. Lucky for me, Childs Amusements had BOTH machines imported (projects) and I have BOTH of them awaiting restoration.
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Geez nealy nearly every member here has played teh SOF hope is clean *)* *)*
I hope it was cleaned before it was sent ^&^
was it?
Forgot to mention - nug and I put a bunch of games on that SoF too a few months back.
I cleaned up after nug! &&
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$.$ Beaky and %)% to the Forums !
Nice intro post - One question - "Flashbacks" or "10 / 4" - was that the arcade in Swanston st that you had to walk down a set of stairs and turn left ?
If you turned right, you would be in a MacDonalds store ?
Nice pick-up with the SoF - I had a few games on that before it left !
I worked at both, flash back (next to Mc Donalds down the stairs and turn right for F-B) and 10-4 (up stairs on two levels further down the road) they were both on swanston st and were both owned by the same company.
(fyi) When the video game After Burner was brought to these 2 amusement centers they used a safe moving company ( the ones that install money safes not the ones that just had safe a work inviroment) to bring these machines up and down the stairs.
10- 4was a mission when new pinball machines came in as most of the pinball machines were on the second floor and we didn't have a lift there.
I used to catch a train into the city to play the pins at Flashbacks. There used to be a Haunted House and a Spirit next to each other in 1983. I was totally fascinated by the both of them - But the were never BOTH operational at the same time. I had no interest in the other games, just these two. A couple of times I went there JUST to play Spirit. For YEARS, I wanted BOTH machines in my gamesroom and be fully operational. The only person I knew with both games was Marco (Pinfan), and when I saw them again (at Marco's), it brought back a flood of memories. Lucky for me, Childs Amusements had BOTH machines imported (projects) and I have BOTH of them awaiting restoration.
There are a few plastics broken on the fire, including the two side plastics that are over the lock area, these have buildings moulded on them so i will be attempting to to some vacum moulding to make new ones.
the paint work on the cabinet is shocking it has a lot of cracks through it so it will have to be repainted.
When it is finished i will be selling it and intend buying a BN2K
I have been waiting to buy another machine before i started stripping the fire machine (which is on its way here). So we have a pin to play while this is being done.
I also need to do some work on the circuit boards (just a transistor + battery holder and capacitors)
will keep you all informed.
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Grrrrrr, Welcome aboard....
So you're the culprit !*!
If you sell me your SOF, i'll be extra nice to you hehehehe.
Nice score, that SOF is a great CLEAN machine.
Sell it to me, Sell it to me, Sell it to me.......
At least invite me around to play it someday :lol
MM.
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Hi MM.
Sorry about the bidding fight but I have been looking for one of these for about 5 years and i thought mark had 2 when I saw the aution and the buy it now listings.
Unfortunately pins go for a lot more up here from dealers, i.e a highspeed is selling for $2950 and a pinbot for $2500.
Sorry to say I have no intentions of ever selling the SOF but I will keep my eye out for one for you but I can't see me finding one under $3000 up here + the freight cost down to Vic.
I will still have to drive to Brisbane to pickup the sof when it gets here so I still have the cost of fuel and trailer hire to add to the cost of this machine + the insert decals I have ordered which are coming from the U.S. so this pin will cost me around $2450 after I add all the expenses together.But I must admit the freight and packing cost that mark is charging me are quite cheap compared to other people who are sending there pins via freight.
The only reason why I bought this one from vic is because of the work mark has done on it i.e. new rubbers, lamps polishing and novus on the playfield + the rest of the stuff he did.
Before the decals go on i will strip the playfield then put the decals on and rewax the playfield so the decals have a coat of wax over them + i wll repaint the black areas under the slingshots and where or if needed and clear inject any bubbles left on the playfield. from what i could see from the photos most of the bubbles where on the inserts which will be gone after i put on the new decals.Even the wear on the playfield in the titans tunnel will be covered by the decals.
If I ever do decide to sell it (which I doubt) and you haven't got one you will have first choice.
And if your ever up here on the gold coast let me know and you will be most welcome to play it.
Anyway nice to chat to you.
Beaky.
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$.$ Beaky & %)%
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Was the SoF on play at the Bushfire Aid Meet and Greet?
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Was the SoF on play at the Bushfire Aid Meet and Greet?
Yes it was !
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I think I did have a quick bash on that then.
From memory it had a rather interesting layout. Seemed like one that would reward you for putting time into it rather than those interested in a quick pinball hit.
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I think I did have a quick bash on that then.
From memory it had a rather interesting layout. Seemed like one that would reward you for putting time into it rather than those interested in a quick pinball hit.
thought you played them all ??
even though about 20 have changed since .....
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I think I did have a quick bash on that then.
From memory it had a rather interesting layout. Seemed like one that would reward you for putting time into it rather than those interested in a quick pinball hit.
thought you played them all ??
even though about 20 have changed since .....
No, I didn't get around to playing them all - my mate Bruce came over and we were having comps on some of the different machines so we played the same machines over a few times. POTC and LOTR got a good workout that night, as well as WCS.
Ones I didn't play included TSPP and NBA Fastbreak (although I came back and played that one later - an interesting pin), Austin Powers and a few others. You would have thought that being there for around 8 hours I would have played them all. But I didn't.
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I think I did have a quick bash on that then.
From memory it had a rather interesting layout. Seemed like one that would reward you for putting time into it rather than those interested in a quick pinball hit.
thought you played them all ??
even though about 20 have changed since .....
No, I didn't get around to playing them all - my mate Bruce came over and we were having comps on some of the different machines so we played the same machines over a few times. POTC and LOTR got a good workout that night, as well as WCS.
Ones I didn't play included TSPP and NBA Fastbreak (although I came back and played that one later - an interesting pin), Austin Powers and a few others. You would have thought that being there for around 8 hours I would have played them all. But I didn't.
LOL well you can pop in anytime and try them .... but if youre here for 8 hours I will get you to make the coffee !
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After the 1st hour, the coin-mechs are enabled ;-)
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After the 1st hour, the coin-mechs are enabled ;-)
Last I checked the keys were in the doors...
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The SOF has finally arrived. #*# $#$ @@* ^^^
It left Melbourne Friday and it is already here (monday)
That was the longest 2 day weekend for me in a long time.
Thank god mark dropped it off at the depot on friday morning not afternoon.
Your a legend mark.
now I just have to drive 120ks (round trip) and pick it up. !!!
It could be worse, the transport depot is on the south side of brisbane not north so that will save me an hour.
and it's right next to the motor way, thats an even bigger bounus.
well back in a few hours everyone.
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The SOF has finally arrived. #*# $#$ @@* ^^^
It left Melbourne Friday and it is already here (monday)
That was the longest 2 day weekend for me in a long time.
Thank god mark dropped it off at the depot on friday morning not afternoon.
Your a legend mark.
now I just have to drive 120ks (round trip) and pick it up. !!!
It could be worse, the transport depot is on the south side of brisbane not north so that will save me an hour.
and it's right next to the motor way, thats an even bigger bounus.
well back in a few hours everyone.
now thats quick and to think I just emailed you the con note number ... @.@
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Looking forward to hearing your impressions when its all set up Beaky!
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Looking forward to hearing your impressions when its all set up Beaky!
you played this one before you broke those frogs
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Looking forward to hearing your impressions when its all set up Beaky!
you played this one before you broke those frogs
what the? (you played this one before you broke those frogs) ?????????
The SOF is dam Brilliant.
I even had enough patients to wax the playfield before I played it. It looks so shiny.
I will be getting a novus kit (1,2 & 3) for the playfield. fortunately 99% of the bubbles are on the light inserts so they will be easy to get rid of.
The translite has a couple of worn spots, but this has only removed the black behind the blue which means some small areas light up blue
instead of being dark, no great drama there, just a bit of blackout paint will fix that.
it needs some new chrome bolts to go with it's great looking legs.
cabinet has a couple of very small marks.(which are very hard to see.)
overall a 9 out of 10 ^^^ @@*.(it still has the Williams warranty sticker below the coin door on the outside).
It plays as good as the new one i use to play 20 years ago and looks nearly as good.
No broken plastics.
Very clean.
I defiantly got my monies worth with this one.
Thank you Mark and all the guys at childamusments, you are a credit to the pinball industry.
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Looking forward to hearing your impressions when its all set up Beaky!
you played this one before you broke those frogs
what the? (you played this one before you broke those frogs) ?????????
Scard Stiff + pinnies4me = broken frogs
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Scard Stiff + pinnies4me = broken frogs
I resemble that remark! I think that's "deformation of character"!!! ;)
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what the? (you played this one before you broke those frogs) ?????????
Yeah, sorry buddy!
Glad you like the game - as you can see, I did clean it up after me and Nug raped it!
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I just put the first coat of wax on the cabinet.
I'm just about to buff it.
"wax on wax off"
"wax on wax off"
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I just put the first coat of wax on the cabinet.
I'm just about to buff it.
"wax on wax off"
"wax on wax off"
So we can safely assume you like this pinball ?
$#$ $#$ $#$
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All those wearmarks, blemishes and nasties....sounds like a bucket of junk.
I'd be happy to take it from you !*!
hehehehehe
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All those wearmarks, blemishes and nasties....sounds like a bucket of junk.
I'd be happy to take it from you !*!
hehehehehe
hahahahah
well done congo man you wont get it back from Andrew its GONEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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10 points for trying hahahahahah....
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Wow it's amazing what a coat of wax does to a black blue and silver cabinet.
downloaded a manual for it to day.
trying to find the only electronic fault it has.
the more lights that light up on the play field the dimmer they get.
not the gen illuminination but all the lamps under the inserts.
has anyone had this problem with a system 11b before?
if so let me know so i can save my self some time in fault finding.
it's not overly bad but it is noticeable.
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Sounds like power-supply regulation problem, could be a bunch of things in the 'chain'...
Could also just be a semi-corroded connector (VERY common) that suffers during higher current demands.
Might be as simple as the main filter cap gettin' old...
I'd suggest measuring the volts on the transformer (that eventually leads to the lamp supply) and make sure the transormer is rated well enough (not lowering in volts) as more lamps come on - design fault?
If volts are stable, then measure at the bridge rectifier, then the filter cap output and eventually into/thru the regulation transistors etc etc......
Somewhere along that line you will see an obvious voltage change as you bring on more lamps.
MM.
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thanks.
I've repaired lights and solonoids that stay on or don't work at all but have never come accross anything like this before
all the connections between the tfx to the bridge and to the board look pretty sound (i.e no sign of heat stress due to resistance in a bad or week connection)
Voltage on main filter cap seems to fluctuate quite a bit (16 vdc down to 12 vdc) but the ac input to the bridge only flucuates 2 vac so i think i will start with that cap.
thanks again.
i will keep you posted.
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Sounds like the GI connector - but you have already checked that.
Possible Dry joints ?
Does this machine have multiple GI relays ? (One for the head, one or the Playfield)
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i have another system 11 board here,i will try swapping them over and see if it is on the board or else were.
I should have 18V.dc on the cap but it is dropping down to 12V
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well i tried another cpu board and i have exactly the same problem so i will work my way back from the bridge and cap for the playfield lighting circuit.
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Cool, that's a good elimination for a start....
MM.
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Well I got desperate and swaped the sof transformer with the tfx from FIRE! and well. I now have 16 to 18vdc across the cap. There still is some flucuation in the insert lamps but nowhere near as much. the g.l. is brighter, the flippers have more power. I checked the voltage to the flippers after i changed the tfx, 49 volts.
looks like the tfx has been changed with one out of an older machine at one stage i'm assuming.
I haven't put the tfx in the fire! pin yet but i hope i don't have the same problem.
the fire doesn't have as many inserts so im hopeing it will be ok.
10 points to marty m, he did mention it could be the transformer. well done and mm and thanks to everyone else who gave me some seggestions.
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Nice progress.
Hmmm, possibly not the original transformer fitted?
You might be lucky that the SOF transformer may work in your 'fire' if it requires less grunt....a win-win maybe?
MM.
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I got around to putting the sof transformer in the fire and now i have the problem in the fire.
the g.i. is duller and guess what the more lights that are on the duller the inserts get.
i will have to see if mark has any spare transformers around.
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I got around to putting the sof transformer in the fire and now i have the problem in the fire.
the g.i. is duller and guess what the more lights that are on the duller the inserts get.
i will have to see if mark has any spare transformers around.
You might be facing a brick wall there, as it took me a lot of searching to find a 'spare' transformer at Marks just 2+ weeks ago. (unless you wanna buy a project pin).
Perhaps put out the call here on AP for anyone with spare transformer/cabinet project etc.
If it's only the GI lamps that are dimming, perhaps just look for ANY tranny with 6.3VAC wiring at some decent AMPs and use it AS WELL as the one in your pin.
MM.
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i sent mark an email about it.
but it would be probably cheaper to get another transformer.
i was thinking about doing that (an extra transformer) but i didn't want to modify it.
i will probably do it to one of the other pins that i will sell.
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have a couple of pins coming in we are going to wreck so might be in luck
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have a couple of pins coming in we are going to wreck so might be in luck
cool
is there a pinbot in the to be stripped lot?
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have a couple of pins coming in we are going to wreck so might be in luck
cool
is there a pinbot in the to be stripped lot?
no but a bally / williams of around the same age
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have a couple of pins coming in we are going to wreck so might be in luck
cool
is there a pinbot in the to be stripped lot?
no but a bally / williams of around the same age
no probs.
did you get my pm about the rivets?