Stern announces new KISS pinball

[Cursed]

Was this an issue with Tron ?

Was there a fix ?

I didn't realise there was an issue like this with Tron Nino . I've had my Tron for a couple of years now and haven't noticed any black marks on the balls .. ever !

Apparently, the exact issue happened - black marks on the ball and playfield. Has something to do with the black pad on the disk. There was an aftermarket clear pad that can be purchased that alleviates the issue. It seems that not all games have the problem. I don't want crud on my game - so I'm happy to buy the clear pad if need be. Interesting to see your game didn't have the issue.

A lot of these issues are going to pop up now that the game is having it's first week on route in the USA. Fantastic reports so far - but the black crud is not consistent to all the games.

I can confirm my Tron got/gets the black marks on the playfield, but not on the balls.

A simple clean gets rid of it and it was more when it was new that it was obvious. My disc is no where near as 'whippy' now though so I do need to replace it.

The clear disc you speak of Nino does fix the problem but it is extremely fast and is a little scary! Anyone know where I can order one?

I will just post this pic

Whoa! I better go check mine....

[andypinboy]

LOLS
reading on Facebook, Stern also needs to buy a map
supposedly part of the game is to visit different concert venues
the city of 'Pittsburgh' is spelt wrong
:p

Is this a joke ?

Nino, I have not knocked KISS since its announcement
I can only report what I read online

it is not a biggie, there will be software updates, as long a Stern knows about it is an easy fix

Very lucky it's not in the artwork 

[swinks]

you can get the clear,blue or black discs here

http://www.pinballcenter.eu/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=tron+disc&x=0&y=0&search_in_description=1

[Strangeways]

LEs will be delayed 2 weeks.

I see this as a positive - they found something that was not right - and they are fixing it. I'd rather be told the truth and happily wait if I know my game is 100%.

Just reading over some of my recent posts, I'd like to make it very clear that I'm not knocking Stern - other than providing some constructive criticism. I have forwarded some of my thoughts to the Distributor I've purchased from, and they have been extremely helpful and supportive.

My comments regarding QA are still valid as I know this title is going to KISS fans - NOT "just" pinball fans or Stern Fans. So I want the KISS fans to get "hooked" into pinball - and most already have the 1978 machine. Set a GREAT impression and you will get more sales.

I'm thrilled - Should be playing our games in 4-6 weeks. 

[Brunswick Brawler]

Given Stern has just moved into a new factory, they may be having some teething troubles, regarding QC.  The of the playfield artwork smear may also relate to a new process that includes thicker clearcoating.  I'm sure it will be 'alright on the night'.

...I just played a WWE on location.  The playfield artwork print quality was perfect.  I can't see something going catastrophically wrong from their last game to this next one.

[Caveoftreasures]

If Nino is happy, and he is the fussiest in the country, when his pinball arrives, then more people will find it easier to buy new Sterns. Espescially people who haven't bought a BNIB Stern before.

It's only a matter of time and Nino shall be converted from the dark side. Lol
From master Obi One Canavey ! Lol

May the force be with you Nino as you join the Stern Fanboy club so many of us belong to. Lol

( Ofcourse it's a silly post and thrown in amongst a the serious posts. Lol)

[Strangeways]

If Nino is happy, and he is the fussiest in the country, when his pinball arrives, then more people will find it easier to buy new Sterns. Espescially people who haven't bought a BNIB Stern before.

It's only a matter of time and Nino shall be converted from the dark side. Lol
From master Obi One Canavey ! Lol

May the force be with you Nino as you join the Stern Fanboy club so many of us belong to. Lol

( Ofcourse it's a silly post and thrown in amongst a the serious posts. Lol)

That's my agenda.

I would like nothing more than to see Stern take the next step and provide a brilliant package. Here is what I'd like to tell Gary Stern ;

1) QA needs improvement
2) Clearcoat needs to be more durable
3) Do not provide "extras" while the buyers are deciding on the model they want

As I can be quoted several times - TWD LE is a BRILLIANT package. I have not played Star Trek, but I really enjoyed Metallica. I am in the minority with AC/DC as I don't like the music. I acknowledge that it is a good game.

What's around the corner ?

Boutique manufacturers are falling by the wayside.
JJP take 4 years to make one game.
Homepin, Circus Maximus and Spooky Pinball have incredible titles coming up with real innovative ideas.

There's a very positive future.

[oldskool1969]

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Boutique manufacturers are falling by the wayside.
JJP take 4 years to make one game.
Homepin, Circus Maximus and Spooky Pinball have incredible titles coming up with real innovative ideas.

There's a very positive future.
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WHIZBANG has another game next year to Dude and their first game is a ball tearer, only 2, yes 2 in AUS and I have one of them! lucky, lucky me and the WA pin freaks.

[Caveoftreasures]

I think Stern selling "extras" is a great idea from day one with all the models whether Pro or Premium or LE.

The car industry has been offering extras on any model from day one and its a great idea.
Eg - spoilers n mag tyre packages, paint upgrades, side spoilers or bonnet spoilers, motor upgrades, interior upgrades, stereo upgrades and the list goes on.

Why shouldn't the pinball industry offer upgrades from day one.
They can't just design the entire system around keeping the LE buyers only happy. The Pro and Premium sales numbers per title sales outsell LE buyers by four or five to one easily. The extras or upgrades n toppers n sidearm packages are designed to give everyone a chance to personalise their machines.

This is a good thing not a bad thing. Stern has smartly looked at the big picture.

[roundball]

Automotive  industry also offers paint and fabric protection,  so why can't Stern.!  ;)

[andypinboy]

Automotive  industry also offers paint and fabric protection,  so why can't Stern.!  ;)

Yeah but at least the car makers have enough ethics    to let you know about the extras BEFORE you've put your deposit down. And sounds like Stern should be offering "clearcoat protection".

[Strangeways]

The "extras" is something that I've communicated to Stern representatives, and they DO listen. The "sales" team are different form the "marketing" team. So these to departments need to work closer. Case in point ;

Two Premium buyers pulled out of their prospective orders as they can save $1500 by simply buying a PRO, and adding the armor kit. Viola - they have a game that LOOKS like an LE.. The game plays slightly different - but not $1500 worth of difference. Still has 2 flippers and four pop bumpers..

I have no issue with the armor kit if released 6 months AFTER the LE's are accounted for and the first batch of Premiums are sold. This would encourage more sales of the armor kits for PRO buyers AND Premium buyers have their games already - bonus for Stern is that buyers have not downgraded in the period waiting for their games.

[Caveoftreasures]

This is why I firmly believe the Pro is, and has always been the best value for money.

You can always personalise a Pro and end up with a unique game.
Compared to buying the LE, you can save between 3 and 4 grand.
That's half of the money for the next Stern title.

The Premium is still good buying at only $1500 more but I always go for the Pro.

As long as u buy something, the industry grows and wins.

[Cursed]

LE video up on Stern's facebook!

Like the start of demon multiball, reminds me of Transformers.

https://www.facebook.com/sternpinball/videos/vb.136972659243/10153393990069244/?type=2&theater

[Strangeways]

LE video up on Stern's facebook!

Like the start of demon multiball, reminds me of Transformers.

https://www.facebook.com/sternpinball/videos/vb.136972659243/10153393990069244/?type=2&theater

Love the video.

A bit worried about those balls flying out on the playfield.