Stern announces new KISS pinball

[Cursed]

Thanks for the vid Pete, some good pinny skills you have there.

Had to laugh as you drained the last ball you earned an extra ball, your daughters hand went onto her hip as if to say hurry up dad!  

[Strangeways]

Awesome video and an even better first ball - without even trying !

[Cursed]

Awesome video and an even better first ball - without even trying !

Stop watching the video and play the real thing ! 

Sorry Nino, seemed appropriate. 

[Strangeways]

 

I WILL ! As soon as new code is available !

Awesome video and an even better first ball - without even trying !

Stop watching the video and play the real thing ! 

Sorry Nino, seemed appropriate. 

[4_amusement_only]

A collector is pulling the pin on their LE...

 http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/KISS-LE-Pinball-/151980344702?hash=item2362bc057e:g:yaUAAOSwFqJWrykH

[Toads]

Now WWE has been updated.
Still no sign of kiss.

[Cow Corner]

WWE
 

[Strangeways]

WWE
 

+1

That should make the one owner of this title very happy.

Meanwhile, I'm thinking of putting my KISS LE back in the box and replacing it with anything else. Most likely put the Fireball back.

A collector mentioned this the other day - due to the fact the games are shipping unfinished, when does the warranty period start ? I can't play my LE, so until the code fixes the sound issue, it is still under warranty.

[Caveoftreasures]

I thought I read somewhere on this thread that someone said KISS owners have waited a year for code update but that is not true at all.

Why, because Stern announced KISS Pinball on May 7 2015.
I remember it well cause that was my 45th Birthday.

So if the game was announced on 7 May and games weren't shipped out for 8 to 12 weeks min past the May date, that means Aussie buyers must have been getting their pins around July & August 2015 as a bare minimum. I thought it was actually much closer to Xmas for most buyers which means the wait time for code is even less !
Since it is only Feb 2016, that means it's only been 6 months max since Stern could have delivered Aussie machines & then started looking at new code updates.

So if my math is correct, it's been 6 months only maximum for people wanting the final code updates.
Add in all the other production lines going at Stern with so many other titles plus the factory move etc, and Stern is prob on target to release code soon.

So it hasn't been a year for code at all.
Hang in there LE owners, it can't be long now.

Also, like ACDC LE models, the Kiss LE models will surely climb in price so it will pay to be a bit more patient.
Does all that make sense regarding dates.

[GORGAR 1]

Hopefully kiss pretty soon :)

[KBRI1700]

Why are Stern selling/shipping incomplete games in the first place?

Then making customers wait inordinate time to ensure they are playable.

[DSB]

Just my opinion but maybe its a cash flow problem. Maybe for some reason they've gotten behind on the programming in the past but now need to keep selling machines to keep the production line going and the cash coming in. I can't imagine them stopping future production so the programming can catch up with a lot of workers to pay.

[Strangeways]

I thought I read somewhere on this thread that someone said KISS owners have waited a year for code update but that is not true at all.

Why, because Stern announced KISS Pinball on May 7 2015.
I remember it well cause that was my 45th Birthday.

So if the game was announced on 7 May and games weren't shipped out for 8 to 12 weeks min past the May date, that means Aussie buyers must have been getting their pins around July & August 2015 as a bare minimum. I thought it was actually much closer to Xmas for most buyers which means the wait time for code is even less !
Since it is only Feb 2016, that means it's only been 6 months max since Stern could have delivered Aussie machines & then started looking at new code updates.

So if my math is correct, it's been 6 months only maximum for people wanting the final code updates.
Add in all the other production lines going at Stern with so many other titles plus the factory move etc, and Stern is prob on target to release code soon.

So it hasn't been a year for code at all.
Hang in there LE owners, it can't be long now.

Also, like ACDC LE models, the Kiss LE models will surely climb in price so it will pay to be a bit more patient.
Does all that make sense regarding dates.

It was a thread on the Stern FB page which was quite long and many KISS buyers were able to vent before it was tidied up and only had positive comments remain ( we don't want newbies to know Stern don't ship games with complete code !). If I remember correctly, the owner stated he PAID for the game 12 months ago, not received the game.

I received mine at the start of October, and reported the sound issue the next day. I was told that Stern knew about it and it would be fixed in the next code update. The next code update was to enable the horrible and expensive topper and to enable the bill validator. Technically, my game is still under warranty as the "code update" will fix my issue.I'm "one day" into my warranty.

I've been watching the Stern FB page daily and viewing comments such as "KISS update before Christmas", and now their constant "coming soon" is posted before the FB is tidied up (again). Even aussie Operators have been posting comments they are removing machines from site as they are incomplete and people can't play them. If Stern put as much effort in their coding as they do on FB censorship, then KISS may have had 10 updates by now !

There absolutely no way Stern can keep making up excuses. They need to hire more people or fire the inept coders to start off with. How many iPhone apps are released every day ? The amount of sales they have lost is inexcusable - and I see this "first hand" often.

[Strangeways]

Why are Stern selling/shipping incomplete games in the first place?

Then making customers wait inordinate time to ensure they are playable.

Because the buying public accept this process without question (guilty as charged).

Just my opinion but maybe its a cash flow problem. Maybe for some reason they've gotten behind on the programming in the past but now need to keep selling machines to keep the production line going and the cash coming in. I can't imagine them stopping future production so the programming can catch up with a lot of workers to pay.

My theory is that Stern have made an absolute fortune on KISS. WWE and GoT didn't sell well so they pump more time into these games to make them better. The sales cycle for WWE would be over by now, but there has always been pressure from operators who lose money over time with poor and incomplete coding. Stern won't put too much effort into KISS, as they made the $ off the KISS fans. But GoT has effectively tanked compared to KISS, so by putting more time and code, they can stimulate sales. Proof would be if Stern provided sales figures, but we all know that won't happen !

I'm absolutely sure if anyone at KISS were aware of this issue, then Stern would get the bullet up their ass that they need to finish the game (gives me an idea..)

[Caveoftreasures]

So 4 months waiting for code give or take an extra 4 weeks.
It's not a huge time but I understand the code would most be welcomed.
I have enjoyed the Pro so don't know what the LE sound issue is but I hope it's fixed ASAP.

Surely it can't be far away.

Stern acknowledges the code requests publicly so they must be keen to get this sorted.
I don't think GOT has tanked, it seems to still be selling at a high rate but yes the squeaky wheel gets the oil.

Maybe this code situation is Sterns biggest New Years resolution.
It would be a PR success to have it nailed finally.

Does anyone know who runs the Code Dept at Stern or is dropping the game designer a email the best way to get a realistic timeframe for next code update ?

I do know personally the game designers are the best to deal with and always answer unfiltered which in this case may be the way to go.