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Aussie Pinball Forums => General Chat - Non Pinball/coin-opp Discussion => Topic started by: Caveoftreasures on August 03, 2012, 02:02:05 PM
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Well, I have 2 x new additions. %.%
They cost me $700 each, they are a 100percent American models, are alot louder than any pinball machine I have, need regular attention, are only 7 weeks old, not many plays yet, this model comes with 2 x balls only.lol, with the other model having no balls, and the jackpot you get is lots of love back, and some serious security.
Introducing my 2 x new American Staffy pups. They come from an American breeder on the Gold Coast who specialises in pure breds.
I named my boy CHEVY, (short for Cheverolet muscle) He is the black boy with brindle thru-out his coat, and my kids came up with SNOWY being the white female with black patches.
They are tuff looking dogs even at 7 weeks old, and the parents were great looking dogs as well. Muscles on muscles.
Anyway, they are charging around the backyard, rumbling each other and are muscley dogs for that breed. I plan on taking them pig shooting which I have done alot of and these 2 shld prove great hunting dogs as well as great pets. The parents were placid dogs (until u jump their fence.lol) and were great with kids.
Anyway, 2 x additions to the family. Alot of fun. They love all the attention the kids give them, and sleep inside of a night.
As they get bigger, I will update with some more photos as they grow. ^^^
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a few more
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We have a female Staffy - 9YO now.
GREAT dogs
Congrats mate ^^^
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I always had dogs around me as a kid, but my wife has been anti for years. Until a few months ago when out of nowhere she wanted a dog. I know how happy I was to bring the little fellow home, so I imagine you're chuffed with those two beauties! ^^^
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well you certainly got me with that post, lol
i was going to say arent you downsizing your collection then i read puppies, lol
I a huge dog person, they look like fantasic little pups, congrats mate
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Well done puppies are great! Just added one to my collection
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Thanks guys. They r heaps of work being puppies so I am hoping they grow out of the .crapping everywhere part.
The trick is too take them out the backyard often, cause cleaning up dog poop is just nasty.lol
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nice dogs, they love everyone
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Superb wtfg!!
I am a english staffy guy myself but those pups are just beautiful.
Even better that they are in a loving home like yours, brilliant!! ^^^
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After some research, I found that USA breeders X-breed the staffys with the pitbull to get the dog a little meaner/tougher etc etc.
In Australia, in most states i believe, American Pitbulls are banned, so the breeders up here can legally sell the pups if they are a staffy/american pitbull cross which apparently is the difference to the english staffy etc.
The parents of these pups were a definate pitbull X staffy and u can tell very quickly cause the pitbull head is alot more square than the staffy, but only slightly. Purebreed pitballs can be 30 to 50 percent bigger dogs from the books i have been reading.
As we talk, the little bastards are ripping the head, arms n legs off the large teddy bear i put in their play pen. It lasted 1 hour before they basically destroyed it. Aggressive little buggers. You shld see them fighting over a skipping rope, they wont give up and go at it for at least an hour.
They rumble non stop and play fight for hours on end, and even at 7 weeks old, run very fast. They were both attacking my ankles this afternoon and the little bastards drew blood twice. I have to calm them down before they get bigger.lol
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rev the little mongrels up $#$, make good gaurd dogs!! Bred for fighting and pretty unpredicatble this breed...a mongrel staffy but a very nice looking one.
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rev the little mongrels up!!
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my ankles cant take anymore.lol
thats why i called the boy Chevy, because he goes hard like a 350 Chev and just keeps on revving (biting).lol
calling the girl snowhite was also a funny one, cause her behaviour is also far from being snow white, shes a little attack dog already. I cant believe how much they eat n how quick they have grown in ten days. I am looking forward to walking them every day when they are big enough to keep them in top condition. (might get me in better condition as well).
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Beautiful looking pups mate, love the breed and make very nice and loyal dogs.
Good choice!
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Nice pups. 4 legged balls of muscle with non stop energy to burn. *)* Not my #1 choice of breed, but one i might consider in the future.
I bet your kids are having a blast with the pups. *%*
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Nice pups. 4 legged balls of muscle with non stop energy to burn. *)* Not my #1 choice of breed, but one i might consider in the future.
I bet your kids are having a blast with the pups. *%*
thanks, yes the kids are loving the pups who are growing very very quickly. muscles on muscles is correct. tough little bastards for sure. they rumble all day n night and are so tuff looking its not funny.lol cant wait til they are full siozed and i can walk them everyday up n around my estate etc. the dogs will get me a bit fitter and i will give them a daily walk n change to get out n about. because the 2 dogs are brother n sister, i have to make sure they dont inbreed etc. they r a classic the way they do everything together and sleep ontop of each other. very cute.
the kids/wife took them to school this arvo for show n tell and the wife has gone to supervise the 30 kids patting the puppies. i was told years ago to get staffys for pets and i always wanted to etc. these american staffys are a bit tougher bigger than the std staffys so i think i have the best staffy/usa combination breed here. time will tell, but so far everything tells me that they were a excellent choice. very fit looking parents with great everything so these 2 x dogs shld be just as good, if not better etc.
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Nice dogs. One of my favourite breeds.
Typically American Staffys are taller and English Staffys are wider. My Staffy is VERY wide, like a barrel. :)
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Thanks Roundball. Yeh, these dogs are solid for sure. Never seen dogs eat so much food, so often. I will have to walk them alot when they get bigger so we all dont blow up.lol For small muscley dogs, they sure run bloody quick. Had a bloke over this morn from the Harley bike shop and his staffy rides on his Harley bike tank and wears sunglasses. very cool. Next time i will take a photo.
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I thought those dogs were illegal in qld?
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I only deal in legal.
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I only deal in legal.
Rightio....pretty sure they are on the banned list...I will check.
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I only deal in legal.
Rightio....pretty sure they are on the banned list...I will check.
Daz, American Staffordshire are not illegal. Recognised pure breed and shown in all states of Australia.
The only problem some owners can face involves uneducated/untrained local council rangers who mistake them for pitbulls. It can and does happen.
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Fair enough mate, thanks for the info.
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Nice dogs. One of my favourite breeds.
Typically American Staffys are taller and English Staffys are wider. My Staffy is VERY wide, like a barrel. :)
exactly right, American ones are taller and leaner and the English more block shaped
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Biggest problems with staffies in the west of melb is they go missing very fast. Seems there's a big enough market for stolen dogs. I actually took my German shepard out one night and he likes to run ahead and a car saw him but not me and stopped. They tried to call him over but he's smarter that most of the DH's here and once they saw me they took off real quick. I know one person had their taken from the back yard while at work. So just watch out if you can.
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^^ Yes, an unfortunate thing indeed. Was happening in Brisbane, and probably still does. They are stolen for baiting pitbulls (dog fighting) and other fighting dogs as a Staffy won't back down until its as good as dead.
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Are these sorts of dogs OK around young kids? from just what I've seen on TV they can get real aggressive at times? I'm no dog expert but just wondered. Well done on the new additions Brett.
Peter
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I bought puppies so they grew up around the kids. I would have been nervous buying fully grown staffys around the kids that i hadnt known from birth so to speak.
Staffys trained properly shld remain very mellow unless provoked. The parents of these 2 x dogs were very placid, so hopefully mine stay that way as well.
The little buggers have driven me nuts this arvo because the kids are at dancing and i have been to the doctors and they now want attention.
Just had to give them the worming tablets with their dinner, and they have doubled in size over the last few weeks. Very energetic and driving me nuts. Hurry up kids n get home n give Dad a break for a while. (the kids dont get pocket money unless they clean up the doggy doo doo, its a bad job and i am to old n lazy to do that either.lol) When the kids whinge about it, i say remember your pocket money depends on dad not stepping in crap when i go out the backyard to the BBQ ! they soon realise, no pick up doggy doo doo means no late night thursday shopping night with their girly friends down at Westfield etc). Ahh, pocket money and dog crap, they certainly fit together nicely. ! *)*
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Dogs aren't born aggressive, they're taught aggression. There are no bad dogs, only bad owners. Simple but true.
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Dogs aren't born aggressive, they're taught aggression. There are no bad dogs, only bad owners. Simple but true.
+1 just a thought when reading the posts, I read the dogs had a toy bear they ripped apart. Bears/kids look pretty much the same to dogs, so keep the toys simple like balls. They might not eat your kids as they may become part of the pack but others could be in trouble if they get that prey drive going with animal looking toys especially if you play fight with the toys and dogs. Even aggressive play is how a dog learns how to attack etc. I've had only German shepherds and know how to make pussy cats or killers out of them.
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Cool dogs dude. Your a nice guy, and dogs reflect their owners so sure your dogs will be sound as a pound. ^^^
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Dogs aren't born aggressive, they're taught aggression. There are no bad dogs, only bad owners. Simple but true.
But if it's an aggressive breed isn't it "built in"? like a pitbull? I'm not saying Brett's are just asking.
Peter
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there must be a bit of truth in the genetics passed down bit. i cant see how dogs can be much different to humans in the good or bad natured arena.
if the breed is a bit aggressive, and then u treat the dog poorly, you will get an extra 100 percent of aggression from the breed as opposed to treating the dog well and it being placid. u dont see king charles cavs or poodles used as guard dogs etc but u do see dobermans and german sheps and pig dogs/pitbulls /staffys used for guard work or hunting etc so i guess some breeds do have a bit more grunt than others. but primarily even the most aggressive breads stay big puppy dogs for life if they are treated kindly from day one. thats the hope of every dog owner i guess.lol
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A breed isn't aggressive nor is a dog born aggressive. Ever heard the term ban the deed not the breed ?
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You have to be very careful with kids though... they dont always understand that a dog can turn in an instant... ANY dog.
Had a Border Collie when my boy was small, then one day while my back was turned he put one finger up its nose.. dog turned and bit him on the face taking a chunk of skin out beside his eye... my son is scarred for life after this on the left eye.
It happened in a fraction of a second and was all over before i could even turn a round... thats a Border Collie.. would hate to see a Staffy turn
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You have to be very careful with kids though... they dont always understand that a dog can turn in an instant... ANY dog.
Had a Border Collie when my boy was small, then one day while my back was turned he put one finger up its nose.. dog turned and bit him on the face taking a chunk of skin out beside his eye... my son is scarred for life after this on the left eye.
It happened in a fraction of a second and was all over before i could even turn a round... thats a Border Collie.. would hate to see a Staffy turn
Agreed, I will never forget when I was a little kid, our beloved Labrador taking a chunk out of my father's face in front of me (leading to a trip to hospital and reconstructive surgery) - we never understood why, they were playing as they had for years, and something upset the dog, and it bit its master.
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You have to be very careful with kids though... they dont always understand that a dog can turn in an instant... ANY dog.
Had a Border Collie when my boy was small, then one day while my back was turned he put one finger up its nose.. dog turned and bit him on the face taking a chunk of skin out beside his eye... my son is scarred for life after this on the left eye.
It happened in a fraction of a second and was all over before i could even turn a round... thats a Border Collie.. would hate to see a Staffy turn
Agreed, I will never forget when I was a little kid, our beloved Labrador taking a chunk out of my father's face in front of me (leading to a trip to hospital and reconstructive surgery) - we never understood why, they were playing as they had for years, and something upset the dog, and it bit its master.
that's why I don't put my face too close to my wife anymore.....she's getting a bit long in the tooth %.%
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You have to be very careful with kids though... they dont always understand that a dog can turn in an instant... ANY dog.
I don't think kids have a good understanding of the dangers of many things, not just dogs. Take the roads for example. Turn your back for a second and it can be all over. Comes back to responsibilities of the parents be it dogs, the roads or whatever. So many times the poor old dog cops the death sentence due to an owners ignorance or lack of supervision.
I'd have no hesitation letting any future kids i had around my Rottweilers, under supervision until a set age. My current and only Rotty is a different story and i don't let him near anyone without my supervision due to the fact he suffered severe bashing for his first 2 years thanks to his original owner.
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the 2 x staffs are now about 10 to 11 weeks old, and all they do all day is play together and basically playfight nonstop and lay in the sun occassionally.
BUT this afternoon, when the 3 yr old son (3 yrs in december) when he went in the backyard, both dogs attacked him and he had one ripping into his arm and one ripping into his back, and in a very aggressive way. I saw the whole thing before i ran out to save him. My son hadnt done anything at all and was walking from the trampoline when they went ballistic at him and ran accross the yard at him. I have to admit, if i hadnt have stopped them, they would have kept biting him and dragging him to the ground. I was amazed at the aggression. It didnt look like play either. It was very aggressive.
So, until my son gets bigger, i wont allow him with them anymore without my supervision/me being with him at all times, til he is big enough to smack them/get them off him. Even when i smacked them both hard, they wouldnt let go til i really belted them both very very hard, and even then they tried to attack again. I couldnt farkin believe it. It went bad very quickly. If i had one dog only, the aggression would be less cause each dog wouldnt be play fighting with each other all day, so i am now wondering if getting brother n sister dogs at the same time was a bad idea. I
I am due at the vets this next week so i might get some advice, but the aggression they showed, the growling, the shaking of their heads today, and the continual aggressive attack they wouldnt give up on has me worried cause they bit him hard and drew blood in 3 or 4 places. They havent done it to an adult yet, so i can only imagine they would do it to him cause he is small. Anyway, thought i would share it cause i think the mistake here is 2 x dogs and not 1. Stay tuned.
Always something friggin going pear shaped.
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Thats not good mate.. sounds like the dogs are beginning to make their status in the pecking order... small kids are always the first im afraid.. theyll do it again for sure
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Thats not good mate.. sounds like the dogs are beginning to make their status in the pecking order... small kids are always the first im afraid.. theyll do it again for sure
+1 big time. Get rid of them, one or two makes no difference. I'm amazed they're still there and you said you won't let the kid near them until he's big enough to belt them. Are you planning on him be Conan or something seeing you had problems. Not good family dogs and cut your loses now, you got lucky mate.
If they decide you're not top dog anymore, they'll go you too
Good luck
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Yeh i will be monitoring things very very carefully. The dogs have almost tripled in size over the past 3 weeks/month.
It was exactly the same behaviour I have seen when taking dogs pig hunting, once they latch on, they just wont let go and shake their heads side to side violently. I was completely shocked this afternoon because there were a few adults in the backyard and the dogs still had a big go with no notice or reason whatsoever...
Might contact a staffy dog website/forum and get some advice from a few experts. I am sure some will say that they can be trained properly, and some will say the opposite. Time to make some serious enquiries.
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F*ck me mate.. im going to be REALLY blunt here.
IF it happens again.. you will never forgive yourself.. theyve done it once - you can never trust these dogs anymore. Next time it happens it could be fatal - get rid of them.
BTW - no pound will take them now.. once theyve attacked a child they will never be allowed into a pound as statistics say that a dog will do it again.
Dont risk it Cavey.. piss em off pal
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F*ck me mate.. im going to be REALLY blunt here.
IF it happens again.. you will never forgive yourself.. theyve done it once - you can never trust these dogs anymore. Next time it happens it could be fatal - get rid of them.
BTW - no pound will take them now.. once theyve attacked a child they will never be allowed into a pound as statistics say that a dog will do it again.
Dont risk it Cavey.. piss em off pal
+1 .. easy decision I reckon .
Simply a case of what do you value more, your child or the dogs .?
Get rid of em now before something worse happens .
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So, until my son gets bigger, i wont allow him with them anymore without my supervision/me being with him at all times, til he is big enough to smack them/get them off him. Even when i smacked them both hard, they wouldnt let go til i really belted them both very very hard, and even then they tried to attack again. I couldnt farkin believe it. It went bad very quickly. If i had one dog only, the aggression would be less cause each dog wouldnt be play fighting with each other all day, so i am now wondering if getting brother n sister dogs at the same time was a bad idea. I
Your son will *never* be big enough to defend against a two-pronged coordinated attack - most adult males would be hard pressed to win against two adult dogs with intent. There is no decision to make, other than whether to sell, give away or other humane action.
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I sincerely hope your son is OK after the attack and he is not scared of dogs. Terrible news.
I am surprised that as a pup this has happened. I understand they play fight amongst themselves (my 10week old pup does with the other two dogs all day) and when playing with toys with me or the wife sometimes he has accidentally nipped, but not bitten. We've trained him out of this habit already. Unfortunately if they are showing aggression at this early age its in their breed and not simply misbehaving. I don't think having two would make any difference as far as the attack on your son.
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Glad your sons OK Brett but that's "warning bells ringing" get rid of them straight away before they hurt someone else if they escape or your kids, as others have said you will never be big enough to fend off these fighting dogs! that's why I bought up this subject in this thread these dogs are bread to fight its just "in built" its a no brainier get rid of them.
Peter
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Hey mate I don't know much about dogs but if it was me the dogs would go... family first mate.
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Yeh i will be monitoring things very very carefully. The dogs have almost tripled in size over the past 3 weeks/month.
It was exactly the same behaviour I have seen when taking dogs pig hunting, once they latch on, they just wont let go and shake their heads side to side violently. I was completely shocked this afternoon because there were a few adults in the backyard and the dogs still had a big go with no notice or reason whatsoever...
Might contact a staffy dog website/forum and get some advice from a few experts. I am sure some will say that they can be trained properly, and some will say the opposite. Time to make some serious enquiries.
I can put you onto the biggest/best dog forum in the country. Full of experienced breeders, with all the knowledge you need. I do think training of any pup should start from day one. I'd be booking them into puppy pre school ASAP and make a start with the training. The longer you leave it, the harder it is.
For example, the biting and attacking of your ankles the other week should've been stopped right there and then.
I can find out the best trainer in your area too if you need any advice or questions now or in the near future. I wouldn't throw the towel in just yet and get rid of the dogs.
ETA...Have you contacted the breeder you bought the dogs from ? What are their thoughts on the matter ? Their response will tell you a lot about them. If it's a short, don't really care answer, you know their not dedicated to the breed and just out for a buck.
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Hope the kids are ok ^^^
If it happened to me, I would have taken the dogs to the vet for the "Green Dream". They have attacked once, they will do it again. Get rid if them.
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Wow, I just caught up with this.
Hope your son is ok but there is only one thing to do here.
Those dogs MUST be put down immediately, selling them or giving them away is not an option as they could easily rip into someone else.
Once a pet dog bites a human, thats it....put em down.
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I have got a professional dog trainer coming over tomorrow, he actually has staffys himself. I will seek his advice and go from there. If he says get rid of them i will, if he can convince me I can do something with these pups, and devise a way for my young bloke to have some sort of small involvent until they are fully trained, i might, might consider keeping them, but its a might til the professional twists my ear.
At this stage, he is saying that the dog next door, barking like a lunatic at the fence for 3 days non stop would have stirred the growing puppies up and he wanted to know if my dogs were barking at the fence, or running up and down along the fence / what else was happening just prior to the 2 of them going at my son. (the dog next door was being minded by my neighbours and it has now gone back to where it came from, and it was a viscious bloody thing that never stopped attacking the fence and carrying on etc).
Since it has gone, the pups havent bit the young bloke or been aggressive at all. But i dont 100 percent trust any animal, so any involvement i ever let my son have with these or any dogs ever will be very minor and totally supervised from now on. Spoke to thye breeder, i have seen the pups parents, veasy easy going/placid to the max, and the bloodline history according to the breeder is placid from the parents/granparents etc. She thinks the dog next door at the fence was the cause etc. We dont have dogs anywhere near our property so thats a good situation to have til i sort things out.
anyway, stay tuned for the bill $$ i get from the dog trainer, and the advice i get.
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I don't suspose you will say who the breeder/kennel name is and which trainer you have coming out ?
Dog trainers/behaviourist are not expensive at all. Well worth the money IF you find a good one. Hope it goes well for you tomorrow.
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I don like telling people stuff but I think get rid of them by way of giving them to someone with lots of dog experience in biting dogs. These people can either get the dgs to behave or they will make the hard decision. These are not kid family dogs seriously.
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if in doubt
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I don't suspose you will say who the breeder/kennel name is and which trainer you have coming out ?
Dog trainers/behaviourist are not expensive at all. Well worth the money IF you find a good one. Hope it goes well for you tomorrow.
the breeders are a couple on the gold coast who my wife found on facebook. i will get the details from her, i was just the mug who drove over, payed out the money x 2 and kept the kids happy.lol
the dog guy my brother reccommended. have only spoken on the phone so far and i will find out tomorrow if he knows his stuff or not.
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How did you go Brett ? Any update with the dogs and opinion/advice from the trainer ??
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After getting the professionals advice, there are many different things required to socialise the dogs properly.
1. they need to be fed more, and at more frequencies. Less hungry, less nippy.
2. adults to meet n greet dogs when going outside first, calming them down from their excitement and jumping before kids go outside to play.
3. kids to pat n meet n greet dogs before just running off or past dogs without patting/greeting first.
4. dogs to come inside more whilst in the growing stage to calm and socialise them more.
5. no yelling and screaming from kids around dogs, which will keep dogs calm instead of hyping them right up.
5. give dogs some chew toys to chew on.
6. start walking dogs in 2 weeks time and start professional training with collars n leads etc with trainer.
7. 10 other things i have forgotten already.
So at this stage, we will give the professional fellow a good run at it, and if the dogs can be trained to my satisfaction, and his, then i will keep them, but really, i will be keeping the young bloke well away until he gets alot bigger, and the dogs will never be around him EVER without me being right there, and i will muzzle the dogs til training is over, and even after training, i think it might/muzzle will stay a permanent fixture when the young bloke goes in the backyard. That way it will always be 100 percent safe.
I will take things very slowly. I only have the 2 x kids (girl aged 12 and boy aged nearly 3) so everything will be done to accomodate this family safety first. Even a labrador can bite, so a muzzle around kids is always a safe option during training and after. We will see how things go. Stay tuned.
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Wow............
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Brett if you have to muzzle a dog to keep your kids safe is it really worth it? I had a dog for 8 years then my young bloke come along when he was 2 the dog bit him next day dog gone and I thought the world of that dog and it was a Australian terrier not a fighting dog just my 2c worth.
Peter
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Brett if you have to muzzle a dog to keep your kids safe is it really worth it? I had a dog for 8 years then my young bloke come along when he was 2 the dog bit him next day dog gone and I thought the world of that dog and it was a Australian terrier not a fighting dog just my 2c worth.
Peter
Border Collie went that afternoon.. no 2nd thoughts about it. Cannot even contemplate gambling a kids well being. Its an absolute no brainer
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..... so a muzzle around kids is always a safe option......
Seems cruel to be muzzling the kids though! :lol
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:lol Might have to try that out, could stop them arguing so much, definately make them a bit quieter *)*
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After getting the professionals advice, there are many different things required to socialise the dogs properly.
1. they need to be fed more, and at more frequencies. Less hungry, less nippy.
2. adults to meet n greet dogs when going outside first, calming them down from their excitement and jumping before kids go outside to play.
3. kids to pat n meet n greet dogs before just running off or past dogs without patting/greeting first.
4. dogs to come inside more whilst in the growing stage to calm and socialise them more.
5. no yelling and screaming from kids around dogs, which will keep dogs calm instead of hyping them right up.
5. give dogs some chew toys to chew on.
6. start walking dogs in 2 weeks time and start professional training with collars n leads etc with trainer.
7. 10 other things i have forgotten already.
So at this stage, we will give the professional fellow a good run at it, and if the dogs can be trained to my satisfaction, and his, then i will keep them, but really, i will be keeping the young bloke well away until he gets alot bigger, and the dogs will never be around him EVER without me being right there, and i will muzzle the dogs til training is over, and even after training, i think it might/muzzle will stay a permanent fixture when the young bloke goes in the backyard. That way it will always be 100 percent safe.
I will take things very slowly. I only have the 2 x kids (girl aged 12 and boy aged nearly 3) so everything will be done to accomodate this family safety first. Even a labrador can bite, so a muzzle around kids is always a safe option during training and after. We will see how things go. Stay tuned.
Sounds like a positive start. I hope it all goes well. If you put in the effort, you'll see results. Keep us updated with the progress.
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Any dog that bites should be put down...this trainer, specialist stuff is crazy stuff.
Just another waste of $$$......they will bite again......
*%*
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the only dog in the world that cant or doesnt bite is one born without a mouth or teeth.lol
a small investment cant hurt. no pun intended.lol
we have seen big results by following training so far.
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Hi mate
I only just caught up on this thread, terrible to hear and hope your kids are ok.
Personally I would not keep them as that behaviour is natural for those dogs, along with pitbulls etc and when taking them out they always attack the other dogs, My Jack has been attacked a few times and especially when there are 2 of these as they go into pack mode.
Also just make sure your son isn't scared with all this as they tend to have a fear of dogs for a long time if not life so if he can't go in the back yard etc it will affect him and he is your priority.
cheers
Jady
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the only dog in the world that cant or doesnt bite is one born without a mouth or teeth.lol
a small investment cant hurt. no pun intended.lol
we have seen big results by following training so far.
Amazing, simply amazing...the stupidity that is.
You would see bigger results from a bullet behind the ear of both of them, problem solved.
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*dogs have been perfect since next doors barking/viscious dog at fence etc has gone.
*training is working well.
*kids dont go in yard unless accompanied by adult.
*dogs have been playing with young bloke alot whilst supervised and no hassles at all since.
*will continue with the experts advice training etc. young bloke will never be left with dogs without an adult or a muzzle.
everythings working fine. training and correct management is the key with any animal.
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CC, if he follows the advice and puts in the effort, they will have two great family dogs for life. Too many ignorant and lazy dog owners in this world who won't train their dogs are the real problem.
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CC, if he follows the advice and puts in the effort, they will have two great family dogs for life. Too many ignorant and lazy dog owners in this world who won't train their dogs are the real problem.
Yep that may be true but those dog owners did not attack a child without provocation, that is what has happened. Bottom line is these dogs are dangerous and bred for fighting, no amount of training will change that. I love dogs but this breed should be banned, no ifs, buts or maybes. They will attack again, no matter how much so called expert training they have.
I can't believe there is any other outcome other than these two being put down.
I do believe it is way more reckless and totally irresponsible of any owner not to put dogs down after they have attacked without provocation.
Just amazing.
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I dont think there is a puppy in the world that hasnt had a nip/chew of a new owner or the kids in the first few weeks of being in a new home.
Puppies bite n chew everything in their first few weeks/months of life. They play rumble all the time and its part of them learning and growing.
99 percent of dogs grow out of it. No one keeps dogs that continue to show aggression, owners only keep dogs that show less or no aggression as they get older. same rules will apply here ofcourse. its all good and under control, i wouldnt have it any other way.
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I dont think there is a puppy in the world that hasnt had a nip/chew of a new owner or the kids in the first few weeks of being in a new home.
Puppies bite n chew everything in their first few weeks/months of life. They play rumble all the time and its part of them learning and growing.
99 percent of dogs grow out of it. No one keeps dogs that continue to show aggression, owners only keep dogs that show less or no aggression as they get older. same rules will apply here ofcourse. its all good and under control, i wouldnt have it any other way.
So it's just a little nip and chew and not the vicious attack you described earlier that had you so worried? I must have read it wrong or you were over dramatic and way over the top about the whole thing......no problems then. %$%
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no, u were correct with ya first impressions, and because i am a very fair and balanced man.lol I will say that my first opinion was correct, they did have a decent go, but the end result was a nip and a quick chew. If the end result was anything else, they wouldnt be here. But knowing what i now know, we dont have the kids running or screaming around the dogs, they get fed more etc and the dog next door has gone. We also calm the dogs by patting them before anyone goes outside to play etc. All the little common sense effort things that shld have been done which we were not etc have made some dramatic changes.
i am a positive man who looks at a glass as always half full versus half empty. everything in life comes with its teething problems. no pun intended.lol
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I respect your opinion Daz, but ASBT is not a pitbull and is not bred for fighting. They can make the perfect family dog given training and socialisation from an early age. That should go for all dogs, regardless of breed.
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Hope it all works out but not for me just can't trust dogs really and even worse with 2
Peter
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+1 To each their own .. I wouldn't have got them in the 1st place myself .
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Any updates you can report here ? Do you still have the dogs ? Training moving along ??
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Any updates you can report here ? Do you still have the dogs ? Training moving along ??
everything going really well.
dogs are fine. the male, chevy play bites alot when he jumps on me from ecitement but he will grow out of that. its just play n nothing else. my little bloke is fine with both dogs. I still always supervise when kids with them cause my 3 yr old(in DEC) likes to hit them with toys etc but he is just having fun but they just lick him now. he climbs in the kennel with them and sits down with them and has tea partys etc for a hour non stop and they just lay with him. but i watch every second just the same because its him who hurts them, not them him.lol
have trained them to get used to collars and the occassional walk out the front. (my back yard is half the size of a football field.lol so they run around the whole day and get plenty of exercise. but i have to get them used to a lead which they both dont like.
otherwise everything is excellent.
might add some photos when i can find 10 minutes. they have doubled in size, at least. ^^^
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Thanks for the update. Sounds like a happy house.