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Title: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Strangeways on November 24, 2014, 11:07:01 PM

I'm gathering final details regarding the pre order commitment and how it affects distributors - up until now, distributors DID NOT handle pre orders. I have been in discussion with CPR regarding a change to this method - but before that happens - you might want to read the new rules and note the new playfields ;

Paragon
Space Invaders

Addams Family

For now - FOLLOW the instructions  ^^^

http://classicplayfields.com/order.html (http://classicplayfields.com/order.html)

More news as it is released.
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Crashramp on November 24, 2014, 11:35:01 PM
Great to see some new widebody pins being done but what happened to Medusa and Skateball from that list? They've disappeared, I really hope they're still being done?
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Strangeways on November 24, 2014, 11:44:33 PM
Great to see some new widebody pins being done but what happened to Medusa and Skateball from that list? They've disappeared, I really hope they're still being done?

Noticed that as well - I've emailed CPR for the reason - hopefully just a mistake !
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Strangeways on November 25, 2014, 12:08:10 AM

Skateball and Medusa have full lists - but not yet started. The idea behind the new pre order system is to adhere to the specified timeframe. These titles will be merged back into the pre order list when they can be guaranteed to be completed within 18 months.

Members can specify if they want to have their playfield shipped to APR - it will be cheaper if sent in bulk. There are other options we can look at. The shipping for Paragon and space Invaders will be much more than a standard playfield.
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on November 25, 2014, 03:04:02 AM
I don't like their attitude
I have bought most of their playfield, only bailed once, High Speed
Most of this run seemed to be seconds, I don't see why we should be forced to buy imperfect stock
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on November 25, 2014, 04:32:36 AM
I don't like their attitude
I have bought most of their playfield, only bailed once, High Speed
Most of this run seemed to be seconds, I don't see why we should be forced to buy imperfect stock

I raised this on Pinside Kevin (ccpr) kind of responded
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Crashramp on November 25, 2014, 06:51:45 AM

Skateball and Medusa have full lists - but not yet started. The idea behind the new pre order system is to adhere to the specified timeframe. These titles will be merged back into the pre order list when they can be guaranteed to be completed within 18 months.

Members can specify if they want to have their playfield shipped to APR - it will be cheaper if sent in bulk. There are other options we can look at. The shipping for Paragon and space Invaders will be much more than a standard playfield.

Thanks for following up Nino, I'm glad to hear they're still planning on making those playfields. I don't quite understand CPR's new structure though. If Medusa and Skateball have full lists but manufacture can't be guaranteed within the next 18 months so they don't go on the official pre order page. Then does this mean that the intention is to bump these games in favour of other new games on the page which do not yet have full lists? Hopefully it all becomes clear soon.

I don't like their attitude
I have bought most of their playfield, only bailed once, High Speed
Most of this run seemed to be seconds, I don't see why we should be forced to buy imperfect stock
Are you talking about the pre order playfields Pete or other playfields offered for sale? I must be missing something here.
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on November 25, 2014, 07:33:22 AM
That if you pre-order, you MUST buy

As I said, I have bought most of the playfield they have produced
These guys take years to produce a playfield
Maybe when they get around to making that playfield, I have no funds?
Despite being a very good customer, Iam now on their sh!t list
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Crashramp on November 25, 2014, 07:53:57 AM
Ok, I understand now. I thought you were talking about seconds playfields. I also agree that the new "must buy" system is not great. I think they may struggle unless they can guarantee delivery dates but then again what do I know? I still want to see these made, hopefully the ones I have my name down for will come back on the list soon.
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on November 25, 2014, 08:24:30 AM
I am also taking about seconds
At the start of the year the made High Speed
Most of these had issues with cracking of some of the inserts
Most were graded as seconds
What happens if all the firsts are sold by the timemy name cones up on the preorder list? Do IHAVE to buy a ssecond?
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Strangeways on November 25, 2014, 09:36:29 AM
That if you pre-order, you MUST buy

As I said, I have bought most of the playfield they have produced
These guys take years to produce a playfield
Maybe when they get around to making that playfield, I have no funds?
Despite being a very good customer, Iam now on their sh!t list

That's not correct. You can "bail out" prior to the three month "cut off" ;

"If one must bail, there IS time for that, without consequence.  Up until production (the last 2-3 months just before release), the
Inbox here will remain open.  Simply email again into the applicable Inbox, message titled "FORFEIT", and state your forfeiture.
We will simply subtract your playfield(s) from the run length - no harm, no foul, no wasted time or materials for CPR."

Yes - they have taken years to produce playfields. That's why they implemented this new system. Within those 4-5 years, production runs of particular titles didn't change to reflect the pinheads who had to pull out due to circumstances. I'm happy to wait years for playfields if I know they are going to happen and the old playfield is worn to wood. They are almost guaranteeing an 18 months turnaround.

How are you on their "shiezen list" ?
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Strangeways on November 25, 2014, 09:39:03 AM
Ok, I understand now. I thought you were talking about seconds playfields. I also agree that the new "must buy" system is not great. I think they may struggle unless they can guarantee delivery dates but then again what do I know? I still want to see these made, hopefully the ones I have my name down for will come back on the list soon.

It is not "must buy" if you sent the Forfeit email 3 months prior to the cutoff.

Seconds playfields are clearly denoted. The last batch of playfields I bought have clear "Gold Edition" stamps on them. They are perfect. I own over 20 playfields - the only seconds playfield I have is a "Flash Gordon", and there's no way the untrained eye can tell the difference until I point it out. I knew it was a seconds before I bought it.
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Strangeways on November 25, 2014, 09:52:28 AM

Kevin and I are working on a plan to have APR the "Aussie Distribution hub" for playfields. Pinheads who use this method will have their playfields sent to me in bulk - saving on shipping (figures need to be worked on). It looks like Paragon and Space Invader will be more expensive than a standard playfield. This would be organized through APR. Some details need to be worked on - but it looks like it will work.
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on November 25, 2014, 09:56:35 AM
If you bail within the last 3 months, you are then on their prepay list

I have bailed twice,:Star Trek I somehow ordered twice
High Speed, that came up at the same time as the mini run of Fathom came up, I could only afford one playfield

So, would only bailing twice since they started put me on their prepay list?
With all the red on their erb site. Probably
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on November 25, 2014, 05:46:18 PM
Far out, brusle sprout

just put my pre order in for TAF
CPRs list is full, my playfield will come from those allotted to PPS
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: DSB on November 25, 2014, 06:32:52 PM
I too just pre-ordered an Addams field and received an auto response that it would be handled by PPS. I would be happy that if I get one, that it could be sent through APR.
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Strangeways on November 25, 2014, 07:01:25 PM

The timing of the new pre order details was advantageous for Aussies as we were able to pre order before the rush from O/S. PPS would have reserved some playfields as part of the licensing agreement between CPR and PPS. Without this arrangement, we would not have seen titles such as Addams Family.

CPR will send Playfields DIRECT to APR - But all payments and the pre order info HAS to go to CPR. You can advise them in the order email that you want the playfield sent to APR. You then need to either PM or Email me. I need to provide this list to CPR at the time of delivery. Remember that for interstate customers, there is still a shipping cost to your address.

Pickup is available from APR.

So there are two cost savings - Early pre order AND shipping. These figures will be finalized at a later date.
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Crashramp on November 25, 2014, 09:19:20 PM
That if you pre-order, you MUST buy

As I said, I have bought most of the playfield they have produced
These guys take years to produce a playfield
Maybe when they get around to making that playfield, I have no funds?
Despite being a very good customer, Iam now on their sh!t list

That's not correct. You can "bail out" prior to the three month "cut off" ;

"If one must bail, there IS time for that, without consequence.  Up until production (the last 2-3 months just before release), the
Inbox here will remain open.  Simply email again into the applicable Inbox, message titled "FORFEIT", and state your forfeiture.
We will simply subtract your playfield(s) from the run length - no harm, no foul, no wasted time or materials for CPR."


Fair enough. Hopefully they prompt those on the lists just before the cut off for forfeits.

If they come back on the pre order page I'll have interest in a number of the playfields and will re order again. From there I can't see any reason why I'd want out of the playfields but you never know how your circumstances will change in the 18 months.
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Crashramp on March 11, 2015, 05:39:35 AM
Great to see some new widebody pins being done but what happened to Medusa and Skateball from that list? They've disappeared, I really hope they're still being done?

Noticed that as well - I've emailed CPR for the reason - hopefully just a mistake !

It's good to see Medusa has come back on the list. http://www.classicplayfields.com/order.html
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on March 11, 2015, 07:35:17 AM
I see they have made EK playfields now
:)

Anybody got a thrashed EK for sale?
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Crashramp on March 11, 2015, 08:21:45 AM
I see they have made EK playfields now
:)

Anybody got a thrashed EK for sale?

Forgot to mention them but they sure do look good.
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: elkor-alish on March 12, 2015, 03:01:23 AM
Nino I noticed that the new pre-order list is also missing Banzai Run.
Is CPR still going to run these playfields too?

I have sent a couple of emails to CPR with a polite query about them but I haven't gotten a response.
It's been over a month and I was wondering if you could ask about these too please?
Title: Re: CPR Playfield PRE ORDER rules and changes
Post by: Strangeways on March 12, 2015, 09:02:52 AM
Nino I noticed that the new pre-order list is also missing Banzai Run.
Is CPR still going to run these playfields too?

I have sent a couple of emails to CPR with a polite query about them but I haven't gotten a response.
It's been over a month and I was wondering if you could ask about these too please?

I have had the same problem - No responses to emails from January ! I'll resend.