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Re: Williams Pinbot Restoration
« Reply #45 on: November 30, 2009, 09:01:17 AM »
Had to be a bit inventive there - I take it it is near impossible to get parts for this machine? Or is this one on a tight budget?

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Re: Williams Pinbot Restoration
« Reply #46 on: November 30, 2009, 09:30:09 AM »
Had to be a bit inventive there - I take it it is near impossible to get parts for this machine? Or is this one on a tight budget?

Andrew - I try to fix things where possible (if it is withing my skillset). I didn't even look for a replacement.

Looks like this part is always damaged, so I will make it stronger.
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Re: Williams Pinbot Restoration
« Reply #47 on: November 30, 2009, 02:36:37 PM »
looking fantastic nino.what did you use to fill the divots in the playfield before decalling?what paper did you use for the decals,photo/gloss/normal adhesive paper?p.s. if it plays the same as my jackbot it is a great game,my favourite.damien
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Re: Williams Pinbot Restoration
« Reply #48 on: November 30, 2009, 06:02:03 PM »
The same basic design is used for moving target banks on a lot of games - Who Dunnit, Attack From Mars and Stern Spiderman use similar pieces that work with 3 targets instead of 5. The parts do wear. Interestingly enough, the Stern parts from Spiderman will work in Attack and Who Dunnit, as they are identical.

I think Mousin Around uses something similar, but I've never been under the hood of one.

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Re: Williams Pinbot Restoration
« Reply #49 on: November 30, 2009, 06:14:21 PM »
Seen this machine in the flesh last thursday and i must say ill be ordering a tc set

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Re: Williams Pinbot Restoration
« Reply #50 on: November 30, 2009, 06:55:58 PM »
looking fantastic nino.what did you use to fill the divots in the playfield before decalling?what paper did you use for the decals,photo/gloss/normal adhesive paper?p.s. if it plays the same as my jackbot it is a great game,my favourite.damien

Wotto did the art for me (as always).

I tried some plasti bond as the filler - hard as a rock and easy to sand

I used some Adhesive paper - Avery J8167

Mylar on top.

The grey area way just a 1/2 page print with the word printed on top. I cut to shape around the arrows etc..

Simple yet effective - until I learn how to do touch up work the proper way !

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Re: Williams Pinbot Restoration
« Reply #51 on: November 30, 2009, 08:28:38 PM »
Looking very good Nino.  Glad to see the TC kit worked well (and not too messy for you!).

Did you give the scotchbright pad a run yet for graining?

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Re: Williams Pinbot Restoration
« Reply #52 on: November 30, 2009, 08:35:30 PM »
Looking very good Nino.  Glad to see the TC kit worked well (and not too messy for you!).

Did you give the scotchbright pad a run yet for graining?

Not yet Marty - I regrained the parts on the Pinbot before you gave me your samples. Will do on the next machine  ^^^
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Re: Williams Pinbot Restoration
« Reply #53 on: November 30, 2009, 08:46:20 PM »
Looking very good Nino.  Glad to see the TC kit worked well (and not too messy for you!).

Did you give the scotchbright pad a run yet for graining?

Not yet Marty - I regrained the parts on the Pinbot before you gave me your samples. Will do on the next machine  ^^^

Cool!  Sooooo are we going forwards or backwards in years for the next installment?

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Re: Williams Pinbot Restoration
« Reply #54 on: November 30, 2009, 10:39:22 PM »
Looking very good Nino.  Glad to see the TC kit worked well (and not too messy for you!).

Did you give the scotchbright pad a run yet for graining?

Not yet Marty - I regrained the parts on the Pinbot before you gave me your samples. Will do on the next machine  ^^^

Cool!  Sooooo are we going forwards or backwards in years for the next installment?

Forwards just for kicks - Then back into the time machine to the early sixties, late sixties and mid seventies.

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Re: Williams Pinbot Restoration
« Reply #55 on: November 30, 2009, 11:35:25 PM »
my moving target guide had a similar problem with the broken plastic.  i tryed araldite but it only held for a few games, i repaired mine with a $2 L bracket from bunnings, i only had to redrill one hole in the L bracket.

mine didn't split down the center like that, the tab at the top where you put the screw to hold it to the play field broke off so there wasn't much surface area to glue


looking good
 
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Re: Williams Pinbot Restoration
« Reply #56 on: November 30, 2009, 11:47:24 PM »

Tonight I hopefully came up with a fix for this problem. I drilled the old holes to a larger size in the plastic and the brackets. I used four nuts and bolts and it seems to be stable. I drilled two additional holes in the mounting bracket that fixes to the play field. I will test tomorrow !







I'll see how I go tomorrow.
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Re: Williams Pinbot Restoration
« Reply #57 on: December 01, 2009, 09:43:06 AM »
The same basic design is used for moving target banks on a lot of games - Who Dunnit, Attack From Mars and Stern Spiderman use similar pieces that work with 3 targets instead of 5. The parts do wear. Interestingly enough, the Stern parts from Spiderman will work in Attack and Who Dunnit, as they are identical.

I think Mousin Around uses something similar, but I've never been under the hood of one.

I think the Mousin' Around! design is similar - I have seen under the hood of one and had to fix the target bank so had to pull it apart and put it back together.

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Re: Williams Pinbot Restoration
« Reply #58 on: December 03, 2009, 11:51:05 PM »

Fired Pinbot up and had a few games. I took some quick pictures of the playfield lit up without a flash ;







I'll take more tomorrow.

It plays VERY well, and has a few minor issues I need to sort out. Player 4 Display was dead - luckily I had a spare, so that was installed. Then it would randomly blow F2 (solenoids and flashers) on the power supply. I narrowed it down to the two outholes (Left and Right) - or so I think. All solenoids tested perfect in the self test. It would blow the fuse only if the ball was kicked out of the outholes. I've done nothing special to repair it, but it played 10 games in a row without an issue. So I might change the fuse clip and the diodes on the outhole coils.

I need to source a flasher board or a couple 5 Ohm 10 Watt resistors. One is missing, so two flashers are not working

Final issue is the top two displays have some weird problems. They miss segments in single digits, or, leave segments on in single digits. Best way to describe it is to post pictures ;








Strange !

Anyone with ideas - feel free to advise as I'm still scratching my head !

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Re: Williams Pinbot Restoration
« Reply #59 on: December 04, 2009, 01:57:28 AM »
possible fault with the ribbon cable between cpu board and master display, or the headers for the ribon cable need cleaning,or cracked/dry solder joints on ribon cable headers if you have another ribbon cable try swaping it or try moving the plugs on the ribbon cable up and down while it is on and see if it runs properly,
My bk 2000 has the same problem, when i move the plug on the ribbon cable (cpu side) it works properley, try both ends


on another subject i noticed the top of the vortex is broken, if you want to fix the top of the votex here is a link to show you how http://www.stevechannel.com/pinbot.htm
just thought i would share it with you
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