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Offline pinnies4me

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Old Bally (1984) Flipper help
« on: March 07, 2010, 12:33:24 PM »
Hey guys, got roped into helping a cousin of my wife with a flipper problem on a Black Pyramid. I've never touched a Bally of this vintage before. What I found was a broken EOS and resultant fried coil. I replaced the coil and EOS switch, but still not going. I've got volts at the coil, so must be a ground path issue. Cabinet switch is fine. As these go via a flipper enable relay, I am suspecting that - a few queries for Bally wizzes -

What's the chance the fried up coil could have damaged one side of the relay (the other flipper works fine)?
Is there a simple test method for the relay?
Are there replacements available if fried?

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Re: Old Bally (1984) Flipper help
« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2010, 12:47:22 PM »
It is possible to have fried one side of the relay not sure how you would test this?    Maybe with a Multi meter check if your getting a signal out of the boards plug?

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Re: Old Bally (1984) Flipper help
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2010, 12:56:30 PM »
Could be the relay - Check for dry joints - Here's the path of the 43VDC for the flippers

J1 Pin 8 - To left flipper coil from Pin 4 of Relay
J1 Pin 9 - To right flipper coil from Pin 3 of Relay

J2 Pin 1 - To right flipper switch from Pin 5 of Relay
J2 Pin 2 - To left flipper switch from Pin 6 of Relay

It is a simple circuit, you may need to visually check the relay - It might be in a socket and if there is another Bally machine close by, you can swap them out. Check J1 and J2 on the solenoid driver board - refit just in case !

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Re: Old Bally (1984) Flipper help
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2010, 01:10:53 PM »
J2 Pin 1 - To right flipper switch from Pin 5 of Relay

We have a winner - track burnt and broken, I guess during the coil fry up!

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Re: Old Bally (1984) Flipper help
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2010, 01:13:02 PM »

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Re: Old Bally (1984) Flipper help
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2010, 01:16:23 PM »
J2 Pin 1 - To right flipper switch from Pin 5 of Relay

We have a winner - track burnt and broken, I guess during the coil fry up!

Thanks guys!!

I was just about to say check for burnt tracks when you posted this.. i've seen that happen many times on these boards