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Title: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: elkor-alish on January 06, 2012, 12:28:42 PM
I don't really get the attraction with Facebook and Twitter.
I don't really understand my obsession with pinball either but that's completly different.

The whole getting online to check your Facebook page at inappropriate times etc.
I've had a look at it and it all seems a bit silly to me.
Am I missing something?
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: necroscope on January 06, 2012, 12:49:37 PM
I like facebook,it put me in contact last year with my 17 year old daughter who i hadnt seen since she was 2years old and there was nothing her mother or her family could do to stop it,now it looks like i will be a grandfather this year and because of facebook i will get to see pictures of my grandson a lot quicker than i would have if it didnt exist.for me it's been a great thing.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Retropin on January 06, 2012, 01:13:32 PM
My wife signed me up and i keep in contact with many old friends from UK.. some of whom have moved to LA, Israel, Malasia, Amsterdam and one moved to Sydney... is good to keep in contact... lots of pictures of me back in my punk days that i didnt have.
But am i constantly updating my profile to say "gavin is shopping, or having coffee etc"... certainly not, got more important things to do like answering posts on AP regarding FB!!!
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: ddstoys on January 06, 2012, 01:23:26 PM
Facebook is great for catching up with old friends or friends over seas.  Its also good to find out when people are not home or on holidays so you can go rob them..  My wife set up mine i log on once in a blue moon and the crap you get bombarded with gives me the shits so i log off again.

     Im forever getting texts from people asking what im doing in certain place to find out that the wife has (Not sure what its called) told everyone we are at the movies or some shit like that.   Cant go anywhere without the world knowing.

And the answer to your question your not missing anything facebook just sucks
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Strangeways on January 06, 2012, 02:33:36 PM
Facebook is a facade and an excuse to sit at home on ya bum instead of meet and mingle with friends etc. Great examples of the positive aspect - catching up with friends you have not seen or heard from for years. But people didn't have facebook 10 years ago, and they still were able to "catch up".

I've missed out on a few "gatherings" because I'm not on Facebook. That's a social issue which I see is a big problem in the future. Generation "Z" is around the corner. A lot more Tech Savvy, but they will expect high paid jobs because of this and expect everything served on a plate for them. I work in a school environment and it amazes me how stupid teachers are these days. They see Facebook as a "teaching aid" - But this creates MORE trouble than it is worth. The increase of cyber bullying is MASSIVE, and guess who has to "control" that ? IT people like me. I'm sick of seeing kids turn into potatoes - perched in front of their laptops in a virtual world. Take away their online access and they have no idea what to do with themselves. Kids should be outdoors enjoying the sunshine and each other's company. Not sitting behind a computer typing trash and acting tough !

Facebook's social impact has been a VERY negative on the younger generation. Smart phones and internet access are creating an anti social generation.

The attraction of Facebook is an extension of a game that was out years ago - "The Sims" - that's where we are heading.

I wonder if people are aware that once they post pictures etc on Facebook - it is there forever ? So that provocative picture in the mirror with duck lips and fake tan will be linked to you in 5 years time, when you have outgrown facebook and you are looking for a job ?

Two years ago - as an IT person, I was asked "Why aren't you on Facebook ?". A year later, those same people ask me "How do I get off Facebook" ?

It is a fad - a phase that people go through. It is the damage that will be there forever that is the problem - and it will still be there when they are long gone off Facebook.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Marty Machine on January 06, 2012, 04:38:59 PM
This is a T-shirt design i came up with around a year ago, a big seller indeedy.  ;-)

(http://mbaoath.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/facebook-48x48.png)UCKWI(http://mbaoath.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/twitter-48x48.png)

:lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Cow Corner on January 06, 2012, 04:55:36 PM
Brilliant...I want one!!!
how muchy!
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on January 06, 2012, 04:59:45 PM
Ill tell ya what, its a businesses dream way of advertising, utilizing facebook in your business is a must these days, the single best free way to advertise your business, when people use the check feature on facebook to check in to our shop its gets hundreds of free exposure just from one person doing that. its rediculas how much extra business we have got from going onto facebook, its worth promoting you have it also. as if one person likes your page, and they have hundreds of freinds it shows up on all their statuses, i post something like our opening times over the school holidays it really gets spread around, and updates on products we have in and what not, man its brilliant if you are not utilizing facebook with your small biz its like not having a website, and you work the two together. its brilliant for small biz, we have really big burgers, people take photos of them put it on their facebook showing how big this burger was they got from our shop, and bingo more exposure, its a marketing dream, it give you stats on how many people on Fb are talking about your company, how many hits you have, how many likes, how many check ins and where they are from who talk,like or check in to your page, its great

ps you have to remember people set their smart phones to check into a shop automatically, this give huge amount of exposure, right now my biz facebook acount says 34 people have checked into our shop in the last day, thats 34 people who have done me a shit load of free advertising
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Prince on January 06, 2012, 05:15:37 PM
Well summed up Nino.

Never joined and never will.  
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: ktm450 on January 06, 2012, 05:20:52 PM
This is a T-shirt design i came up with around a year ago, a big seller indeedy.  ;-)

(http://mbaoath.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/facebook-48x48.png)UCKWI(http://mbaoath.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/twitter-48x48.png)

:lol :lol :lol :lol


love it  *)*
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: ktm450 on January 06, 2012, 05:21:35 PM
Well summed up Nino.

Never joined and never will.  

+1
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Strangeways on January 06, 2012, 06:13:49 PM
This is a T-shirt design i came up with around a year ago, a big seller indeedy.  ;-)

(http://mbaoath.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/facebook-48x48.png)UCKWI(http://mbaoath.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/twitter-48x48.png)

:lol :lol :lol :lol


When will you be printing these ?
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Marty Machine on January 06, 2012, 06:24:27 PM
Facebook's social impact has been a VERY negative on the younger generation. Smart phones and internet access are creating an anti social generation.
NOTHING smart about a phone, nor is the person glued to it all day long.

I've been dabbling with some writings the past 2-3 years and getting closer to putting together a book ("The Rise & Rise of Anti-Social Networking"), that highlights the de-evolution of society.
It's beyond ironic that "social networking" is nothing more than "anti-social networking" and heavily controls the empty vessels that are glued to their phones & PC's 24/7 to 'connect' with eachother.

Humanity has peaked, we're now on the downhill side of life as we knew it.
Now you understand what your parents meant when they ALWAYS said something like "i remember the good ol' days"...


Two years ago - as an IT person, I was asked "Why aren't you on Facebook ?".
Because you have a LIFE !  :lol


MM.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Cow Corner on January 06, 2012, 06:24:39 PM
Please print some more, that's the best Tshirt design I have seen in ages!
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Marty Machine on January 06, 2012, 06:25:19 PM
This is a T-shirt design i came up with around a year ago, a big seller indeedy.  ;-)

(http://mbaoath.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/facebook-48x48.png)UCKWI(http://mbaoath.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/twitter-48x48.png)

:lol :lol :lol :lol


When will you be printing these ?

I should get around to another run soon, they seem to be in demand again ;-)

MM.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Marty Machine on January 06, 2012, 06:26:22 PM
Please print some more, that's the best Tshirt design I have seen in ages!
Thanx for the praise, makes it all worthwhile as i often pun around with wordplay to design shirts & car stickers.

MM.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Cow Corner on January 06, 2012, 06:38:04 PM
Please print some more, that's the best Tshirt design I have seen in ages!
Thanx for the praise, makes it all worthwhile as i often pun around with wordplay to design shirts & car stickers.

MM.
No worries mate, that is a very clever design....crude and rude yes but very clever all the same and right up my alley. Stoked you are printing some more, I would love one and I bet I could sell a few more for you too.
 ^^^
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: swinks on January 06, 2012, 10:34:21 PM
I signed up years ago and only jump on 2-3 times (Christmas / Birthdays) a year to keep in touch and watch my cousins and their kids grow up in Holland. Otherwise your so called friends in Aus just use it to do the peeping tom of anything you may have on there.

FaceSpace is a joke overall.

As for phones - there not far behind. Once work stops the phone goes in the drawer until I go back to work the next day, next week - it is so freeing like it was when I was a kid.

Luckily my wife is the same, much better things to do in life.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 06, 2012, 11:20:44 PM
This is a T-shirt design i came up with around a year ago, a big seller indeedy.  ;-)

(http://mbaoath.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/facebook-48x48.png)UCKWI(http://mbaoath.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/twitter-48x48.png)

:lol :lol :lol :lol


love it  *)*


+1 Thats great  %.% %.% %.%

facebook is nothing but a big WANK as far as im concerned

My niece wanted to set me up with a facebook account.. i said NOOOO THANKS  *.* *.* *.*
I have no interest in it what so ever, i have no interest in reading how many times someone shits in a day  :lol
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Marty Machine on January 06, 2012, 11:23:15 PM
As for phones - there not far behind. Once work stops the phone goes in the drawer until I go back to work the next day, next week - it is so freeing like it was when I was a kid.
Luckily my wife is the same, much better things to do in life.
At least you have CONTROL of your phone usage, most people are simply addicts and truly believe they NEED a phone to live.
I'm sure most teenagers these days text eachother to remind eachother to breath, it really is getting that bad ....


I don't have a mobile phone nor do i NEED one, call me at home or email me, if i don't respond then I'M DOING SOMETHING and will get back to you....it's not rocket science  ;-)


It's amazing how the telco's and social-media sites are making BILLIONS from peoples sheer stupidity, oh well....a fool and their money are soon parted  :lol :lol :lol :lol
MM.

 !@# @@^ !@#
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Cow Corner on January 07, 2012, 07:51:11 AM
Quote from: Marty [/quote
....


I don't have a mobile phone nor do i NEED one, call me at home or email me, if i don't respond then I'M DOING SOMETHING and will get back to you....it's not rocket science  ;-)


It's amazing how the telco's and social-media sites are making BILLIONS from peoples sheer stupidity, oh well....a fool and their money are soon parted  :lol :lol :lol :lol
MM.

 !@# @@^ !@#

+1
I have never owned nor will I ever own a mobile phone.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: ddstoys on January 07, 2012, 09:58:49 AM
But on a good note about face book.  It is keeping a heap of wankers inside and away from us smart sociable people who actually go out into the real world.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: goodolddays on January 07, 2012, 10:57:16 AM
But on a good note about face book.  It is keeping a heap of wankers inside and away from us smart sociable people who actually go out into the real world.

 :lol :lol
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Marty Machine on January 07, 2012, 01:53:21 PM
I have never owned nor will I ever own a mobile phone.
I bet you get the same strange looks when people find out you don't have a mobile?

I always get asked "how do you get by?", and when people on the phone ask for my mobile info (banks, loans, memberships etc) they freak out like i'm the only guy on Earth without a phone.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Marty Machine on January 07, 2012, 01:53:59 PM
But on a good note about face book.  It is keeping a heap of wankers inside and away from us smart sociable people who actually go out into the real world.
Agreed !!  ;-)
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Pinprick on January 07, 2012, 01:59:56 PM
My sentiments . . .
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: ktm450 on January 07, 2012, 07:06:29 PM
But on a good note about face book.  It is keeping a heap of wankers inside and away from us smart sociable people who actually go out into the real world.

 *)*

Is that where all the Aussies have gone, and I though we were slowly being overrun by Indians  *)*
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Marty Machine on January 08, 2012, 01:05:26 AM
Is that where all the Aussies have gone, and I though we were slowly being overrun by Indians  *)*
We Are, and most Aussies bagged Pauline Hanson for speaking her mind, now look at the country gettin' taken over !!!!

No doubt the Government will keep trying to change the flag, but soon enough they'll change the name of the Country instead, Australasia perhaps?  ;-)
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: ktm450 on January 08, 2012, 07:28:07 PM
It is scary stuff, nust people blow it off, but it is going to get tougher for my kids to get a basic job, let alone be able to buy a house.
Watched a great doco by David Attenborough on the earth and population growth, really amazing figures how quickly the population is doubling and we just dont have the resources to keep up with it.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: vinito on January 09, 2012, 07:10:11 AM
I was "phish tricked" into signing up for facebook a while back. It made it look like a request was coming from my out of town brother. So I was in I guess. Once I was on it, I did use it to look up some old friends from way back. That's about the only useful thing about it in my opinion. Otherwise I look at it about once every month or two. Just not my thing, but then again, I'm an old fart so...

The subject comes up often of late how facebook makes money. I have an idea how they do that, but I've noticed that FB and Twitter buttons are becoming an annoying part of visiting web pages these days. I use adblock on Firefox and I'd like to learn how to use something like that to block the FB and Twitter crap too. I guess it's popular enough that it's not blocked by default on adblock. I ought to look into that and I think I will today. Radio and TV are already supersaturated with ads and have very little content compared to my younger days. I'm a quick-draw with the mute button now. I'd like my internet to stick with the content thing and block all the ads that it can.

What's the attraction with Facebook? The answer is, the owner is making gajillions with it. Oh, you meant for the public? I guess, for whatever reason, snake oil always finds plenty of suckers.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Cow Corner on January 29, 2012, 10:32:16 AM
My eldest son was asking about this crap the other day, we talked about it and then i said what do you think...quote" it just sounds stupid to me dad"...smart boy.
No way in the world my kids will be using this invasive shite unless they want to pay for it themselves and I can't see that happening any time soon. Get outside and kick a footy!
Any chance a cyber nerd will actually invent something usefull for the world?....Nah of course not!
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on January 29, 2012, 11:32:09 AM
Facebook, use it, don't use it, meh

I am on FB, most of my 'friends' are pinball fans in the US, I will probably never meet them in real life

but on occasion, they will post something pinball related that I would not otherwise be aware of

Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Strangeways on January 29, 2012, 11:42:49 AM

Stupid trend with Facebook is Business' using it to promote there latest products etc ;

"Follow us on Facebook" or "Follow us on Twitter"  !!@

Um, no. You just lost a potential customer.

My favorite question is - "Are you on Facebook" ?
I reply - "no"
Next question - "How did you delete your profile ? I've tried but can't do it"  &^&
I reply -  %.%
 
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Cow Corner on January 29, 2012, 11:44:49 AM
This is a T-shirt design i came up with around a year ago, a big seller indeedy.  ;-)

(http://mbaoath.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/facebook-48x48.png)UCKWI(http://mbaoath.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/twitter-48x48.png)

:lol :lol :lol :lol


When will you be printing these ?

Bump
I'm keen for some of these!
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Cow Corner on January 29, 2012, 11:55:14 AM

Stupid trend with Facebook is Business' using it to promote there latest products etc ;

"Follow us on Facebook" or "Follow us on Twitter"  !!@

Um, no. You just lost a potential customer.

My favorite question is - "Are you on Facebook" ?
I reply - "no"
Next question - "How did you delete your profile ? I've tried but can't do it"  &^&
I reply -  %.%
 

Yes that is very annoying, f and t signs everywhere.........  :spam:
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: johnwartjr on January 29, 2012, 06:22:32 PM
That's how I feel about LEDs :) Can't understand for the life of me what the attraction is :)

Facebook is useful for some things, there's a lot of flotsam floating around that you need to ignore or block. I don't want to join your mafia, or have a virtual farm and be your neighbor. But, perhaps I *am* interested in the pinball you're working on now - or I do care that my favorite band is coming to town.

I get to see photos of my niece and nephews a few times a week, instead of once or twice a year. I've reconnected with lots of old friends. Perhaps they became old friends for a reason, and in some cases, I'm sure that's accurate, but I still see some value to it.

I don't see why it'd be hard to leave facebook - pretty easy to delete your account if you want to!

Yes, there's a lot of wasted time on there. Just like there's a lot of wasted time on smoke breaks for coworkers, or watercooler banter. Some folks will gossip, whether they are behind a keyboard, or running into an old friend at the grocery store.

Many of my facebook friends are pinball folks, too.

Hey, you could apply many of the comments about Facebook to any internet site. Some folks spend too much time reading on wikipedia. Some folks spend too much time on RGP.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: pinnies4me on January 29, 2012, 06:32:46 PM

That's how I feel about LEDs :) Can't understand for the life of me what the attraction is :)


World's easiest mod, no skill required to put 'em in, so very appealing for people who want to experiment.

I have a business and personal facebook page, and the personal one is used purely for business as well. It's like the Yellow Pages used to be - you needed an ad for defensive purposes, to keep up with competitors. Now fb is a bit like that for my business. Luckily my partner is a regular fb addict so I let her set it up, and frankly it does work for us. As for finding people, I used it to track down a lawyer who used to work for me, so we keep in touch (I'd like to swing her over to us one day). So yes, it has it's uses for me.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Caveoftreasures on January 29, 2012, 09:13:18 PM
Nick makes a good point about Facebook, it can be a business tool or a private tool with social benefits.  If people who love Facebook see your business details, its added exposure for your business. Exposure for any business is a good thing. If anything, just by being on facebook, it says to like minded people that your business is living in 2012 in the modern day, and your business is up to date so to speak.

Socially, people love to communicate, and communication is both entertainment and educational. As long as it doesnt take over your life, its a reasonable thing.
Once upon a time, to socialise with family n friends u drove over n said hello. Today, with time being in short commodity, facebook etc is a efficient way to catch up n say hello. I dont use facebook, I am too busy with work and dont have a need for it at this stage. My wife, however, is an avid user and has many girlfriends who share pictures of the young kids etc etc. Facebook is like AP, take what u want from it and use what benefits you. Plenty of useful information on the web these days. Its amazing how much stuff u can learn with a few keystrokes. Google i would argue, with wiki, is more relevant for those not using facebook.  ^^^
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on January 29, 2012, 10:39:32 PM
Nick makes a good point about Facebook, it can be a business tool or a private tool with social benefits.  If people who love Facebook see your business details, its added exposure for your business. Exposure for any business is a good thing. If anything, just by being on facebook, it says to like minded people that your business is living in 2012 in the modern day, and your business is up to date so to speak.

Socially, people love to communicate, and communication is both entertainment and educational. As long as it doesnt take over your life, its a reasonable thing.
Once upon a time, to socialise with family n friends u drove over n said hello. Today, with time being in short commodity, facebook etc is a efficient way to catch up n say hello. I dont use facebook, I am too busy with work and dont have a need for it at this stage. My wife, however, is an avid user and has many girlfriends who share pictures of the young kids etc etc. Facebook is like AP, take what u want from it and use what benefits you. Plenty of useful information on the web these days. Its amazing how much stuff u can learn with a few keystrokes. Google i would argue, with wiki, is more relevant for those not using facebook.  ^^^

as i stated on the first page it is a tool you must use if you are a business, not using facebook for your biz is like not having a webpage these days
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on February 09, 2012, 07:36:02 PM
after this thread was created and after some of my comments about the topic, ive had a few pm's from members about how i utilize facebook for our cafe. as they are considering doing something similar, so the best i can do to explain it is to show directly the page, its not that hard to do and isn't that time consuming and often updated from your phone, http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mellum-Munchies/115543965165829 to some of those members who i talked to via pm i didn't say, it also helps with google positioning with your webpage, having links to your webpage on facebook,
many peoples points are very valid about facebook, but being as big as it is, using it is very valuable if you do it correctly, this might save people a pm but feel free to pm if after some more info, i dont mind helping

ps make your posts interesting. whilst im here, some of my posts are hard to read and i often have to edit many times, i am actually dyslexic true story lol
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Cow Corner on March 07, 2012, 12:08:12 PM
I put a challenge up to some of my friends whose lives totally revolve around social media.
I told them they were addicited to it, they said I was full of shite. So I bet them they could not go an entire week-end without using a mobile phone or a computer.
None of them could even last half a day....wtf!
It may be great for business and that is fine, I have no problems with this as a tool to promote a business( small business need all the tools at their disposal to prosper) but I am convinced that it is the new psudeo drug of the 21st century among our young people.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Homepin on March 07, 2012, 02:49:16 PM
I can't for the life of me figure out how Facebook could possibly 'promote your business' and there is no site or person who seems to be able to tell me - only shonks running 'workshops' showing you how to take advantage of it.…. !!@
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Cow Corner on March 07, 2012, 03:00:46 PM
I can't for the life of me figure out how Facebook could possibly 'promote your business' and there is no site or person who seems to be able to tell me - only shonks running 'workshops' showing you how to take advantage of it.…. !!@

I dunno, I don't have a business and don't ever plan to so it makes no difference to me.
Oj seems to be getting some from it.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on March 07, 2012, 07:40:53 PM
As a person who is in a similar business to Jason, I am interested to see how promoting his business via the internet works.

I am skeptical.
Yes the internet reaches millions of people, but advertising to people the other side of the globe is a little pointless for a food shop.
At best, there maybe 40,000 potential customers who are within a reasonable traveling distance

I know that smart phones mean that we now carry the internet on out pockets. But do people research the internet when looking for a place to eat?
I do not know

Maybe Jason will prove me wrong
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: pinnies4me on March 07, 2012, 07:52:16 PM

I know that smart phones mean that we now carry the internet on out pockets. But do people research the internet when looking for a place to eat?


I have checked the net both at home on the PC looking for a place to eat, and while traveling using the hand held device Pete. So that makes one!

I recently established a web based portal which business will be made or broken purely on search engine traffic, so I might have some comments on the effectiveness of the net for business generation (as opposed to attracting work to my "shop front" business). 
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on March 07, 2012, 07:58:43 PM
Yes, but does internet traffic equal an increase in people through the door?
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: pinnies4me on March 07, 2012, 08:00:38 PM
Yes, but does internet traffic equal an increase in people through the door?

Exactly the thrust of what I am doing. If there are no bums on seats as a result we'll have some good information on just this topic.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Caveoftreasures on March 07, 2012, 08:11:59 PM
YES it does equal more people thru your front door for a few reasons.

Any successful marketing requires people to talk about your business in some way shape or form. Facebook is the biggest chat room on the planet, and if people are talking about your business/a business and saying good things, it will mean more bums on seats/or people thru the front door (front door can be via telephone or literal walk ins).

Referrals and word of mouth is paramount in any business and thats why the internet and facebook works for a business. Just look at Sterns www.acdcpinball.com site.
I found that from looking at facebook. All target marketing can have a positive result.

I had a job today (Alarm sale and install) worth a few grand to me. I never met the bloke, but he said I installed an alarm into his friends house, and his friend posted on facebook that he had got a great deal from me, so this guy got my details from a facebook post. It happens regulary. People tell people who tell people who tell people and so on. The phone rings because of it. Facebook is good for business.  ^^^

p.s - For Pete,If I had a cakeshop/pie shop, I would start a post on facebook saying anyone who comes into my store and mentions my facebook page, u get xyz off percentage wise, or a free drink with every xyz. See how many people tell their friends about your business. Post regular updates about your business. People like to read anything and everything on facebook, espescially those addicted (thats apx 95 percent.lol)  ^^^
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on March 07, 2012, 08:18:14 PM


p.s - For Pete,If I had a cakeshop/pie shop, I would start a post on facebook saying anyone who comes into my store and mentions my facebook page, u get xyz off percentage wise, or a free drink with every xyz. See how many people tell their friends about your business. Post regular updates about your business. People like to read anything and everything on facebook, espescially those addicted (thats apx 95 percent.lol)  ^^^

Would work great if most of my facebook friends did not live in the USA
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Caveoftreasures on March 07, 2012, 10:11:30 PM
everyone is your friend on facebook if they have money in their pockets.  &&  randoms will ask to be your friend if you post some photos of ya self and ya business with regular updates.    incl a wi-fi "hotspot" at your businessa as well if u have table n chairs.  people then email their friends, "oh I am down at xyz business having coffee n cake etc". people then go to that business  etc.    give it a go. cant hurt. extra sales is extra $$ for pinballs.  &&   ^^^ ^^^   
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on March 07, 2012, 10:26:31 PM
they dont have to be mates to like your page,you want randoms. its not like your personal page where you have friends and what not and invite people or they invite you. no
you have "likes" instead and people just click like.
how many friends that person that clicked like on your page has just appeared on all those peoples pages, for example- one person likes your page who has 100 friends then there is a possibility 100 people have just seen that person has liked your page, that is good advertising.
and mate it does put bums on seats. mate i post something new on facebook the next day i have a tonne of people coming in asking for it. best advertising ever. and the more clever you are with your page the better the result. this is no different for paying for an add on tv or in the paper for advertising,its still advertising. however this way its more interactive. also remember people use facebook like google, eg they want to come to Our town for a day trip they search Landsborough it will comes up with all these businesses at landsborough. if they visit the store and they click "check in" at our store, then again all there friends see that person is at landsborough at our shop. and being a cafe people are sitting there using their phone and good chances of adding your shop if they like it. make sure you advertise the fact you have a facebook page and a webpage. best part about it, its free.


people hate facebook as mentioned but they are minority, even though those who hate facebook have a very valid points as to wh ythey hate it, its crazy not to use it for your buisness, as many of the reason they hate it is the reason it works for buisness. but you do cater for the none facebook users in other ways like webpages phone book and all that, but you always run fascebook with those forms of advertising also, and mantion you have it so fans of your shop will help promote it, its just like word of mouth however it can reach more people. also the page gives you feedback like weekly views and howmany people your page has reached. so always post in prime time, so it has a better chance of reaching more people. thats a good trick also
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on March 07, 2012, 10:54:33 PM
facebook is no different from word of mouth from say this forum, say you got a good deal on your pinball and you post here saying this guy was good to me, and then other people use your feedback, difference is there are allot more people using facebook. at the end of the day when you pay to put your business on tv you are using that media to reach people, facebook is just using a different media to do the same thing. also i need to remember being a cafe in a tourist area, if i just target just local audience then im falling behind, i could reach some one in sydney who is coming up my way, thats how this works. i do everything to target a wide range of people i use free food rating places like "menu mate" which also use facebook. you need to be ontop of the internet thing.

as for people not being able to explain why its effective, thats strange, because its not hard to explain why advertising works and this is just advertising using a different medium that millions of people use daily, at the end of the day you have no problem saying you enjoyed a meal at a certain shop to a friend, you are virtually advertising by word of mouth, now seeing facebook is how people communicate these days they still have no problem telling their mates they enjoyed that meal, they dont have to tell it 100 times to tell 100 people now. lol

if you want to learn how to create a business page just feel free to ask.

popbumper you have a pie shop was itnt it? whats the name of it? i might search facebook and see if any one has liked your shop, you might actually have people checking in without knowing you are even on facebook lol, especially if you had a customer eating sitting there saying they are at your place, lol if so your buisness is already there, might also be worth your while searching for your business on websites like "menu mate" and see if your shop is there.

you also need to think, if you want to contact a shop these days, do you go through a big old heavy phone book, or do you jump on your phone or pc and search???  one takes 30 seconds max the other takes allot longer. you can search from your phone from your pocket most people dont Carry a phone book in their pocket.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Homepin on March 07, 2012, 11:25:07 PM
So all of this tells me that people don't have a life..............FFS
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on March 07, 2012, 11:27:45 PM
So all of this tells me that people don't have a life..............FFS
exactly lol, and thats why business is crazy not to utilize it. people sit in front of a tv all night long so business pays for tv adds. people sit in front of facebook all night long so same thing and when out and about on their phones, different medium but the same principle, taking advantage of people sitting there staring  at your business drilling it into their heads.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Caveoftreasures on March 08, 2012, 12:17:04 AM
Mike(homepin) u cracked me up.lol   On a personal basis, i think facebook sux, but as a businessman, I like it $$$  %.% %.%

People post when they went to the toilet, how they feel, all this random weirdo stuff, I sit n think FFSake, why are u telling the world what u had for dinner etc, who gives 3 hoots, but billions of people do it.  &^&  except me personally.

Funny Story.
A friend did a facebook page for me, without me wanting it.lol   ...all of a sudden, I had thousands of random weird people incl young kids wanting to be my friend, WTF, I dont want a website with 60 kids aged 10 yrs being my friends, it doesnt look good ! and then I had 40 people with the same exact name wanting to be my friends, what is it now, a parrallell universe like Stargate.WTF ! so after my 11 yr old daughter, let these 2 thousand random nut jobs become my friends one night, I had to go on there, and create a holocaust and kill everyone by hitting the unfriend or kill button or some dam thing, then i had randoms asking me why i didnt want to be their friends. another WTF, so i killed them all in hyperspace and am now floating alone on a empty asteroid. HOW LOVELY.  Life without facebook  ^^^  but its still good for a business site, which is different. lol  %.% %.% @.@.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on March 08, 2012, 02:14:54 AM
Mike(homepin) u cracked me up.lol   On a personal basis, i think facebook sux, but as a businessman, I like it $$$  %.% %.%

People post when they went to the toilet, how they feel, all this random weirdo stuff, I sit n think FFSake, why are u telling the world what u had for dinner etc, who gives 3 hoots, but billions of people do it.  &^&  except me personally.

Funny Story.
A friend did a facebook page for me, without me wanting it.lol   ...all of a sudden, I had thousands of random weird people incl young kids wanting to be my friend, WTF, I dont want a website with 60 kids aged 10 yrs being my friends, it doesnt look good ! and then I had 40 people with the same exact name wanting to be my friends, what is it now, a parrallell universe like Stargate.WTF ! so after my 11 yr old daughter, let these 2 thousand random nut jobs become my friends one night, I had to go on there, and create a holocaust and kill everyone by hitting the unfriend or kill button or some dam thing, then i had randoms asking me why i didnt want to be their friends. another WTF, so i killed them all in hyperspace and am now floating alone on a empty asteroid. HOW LOVELY.  Life without facebook  ^^^  but its still good for a business site, which is different. lol  %.% %.% @.@.

i couldn't agree more. lol on a personal level every negative point that has been made here is valid, lol, its crazy, but yer on the business side its a good thing and a very very very useful tool. also on the business part its good to connect with your customers and it is satisfying people want to join your page and promote your business, so its good like that and its good to reward peoples loyalty and keep them upto date on things, people do like taking interest in your business if they like it which is cool.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on March 08, 2012, 07:29:13 AM
Oh well, might give it a go
Took lots of pictures of pasties during production, should go well witg the pictures of pies i took when i got my phone
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Homepin on March 08, 2012, 09:38:25 AM
Oh well, might give it a go
Took lots of pictures of pasties during production, should go well witg the pictures of pies i took when i got my phone

Now THAT's the kind of thing that would actually interest me - I couldn't give a stuff about getting $1 off or meeting Billy Bloggs at your shop BUT seeing how stuff is made/works interests me.….that's one reason I always LOVE visiting factories in China to see how stuff is done. Good luck with it.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on March 08, 2012, 08:15:14 PM
Oh well, might give it a go
Took lots of pictures of pasties during production, should go well witg the pictures of pies i took when i got my phone

Now THAT's the kind of thing that would actually interest me - I couldn't give a stuff about getting $1 off or meeting Billy Bloggs at your shop BUT seeing how stuff is made/works interests me.….that's one reason I always LOVE visiting factories in China to see how stuff is done. Good luck with it.

i agree thats a good thing to post up, those sort of things are of interest to people. they like to see how their food is made, and its very interact9ive with your customers, just advertise the fact you are on facebook,in your shop to get the first few people joining and checking it out, and tell some of your regulars, some might not be interested some might be, thats how i started getting people to join, then before long it starts to grow quickly, make sure you fill in all your buisness details and get your staff involved. the more intereaction the better and it will seperate you from other boring shops. lol, and it actually reminds people you actually bake in house and you arent one of those buy in style shops lol where you arent buying cheap prebaked garbage from a factory some where, make sure you promote things like that. are you on menumate.com.au ?? search that shop to see if you are and if you are listed you can claim it, also add your facebook like to it, its free also, i get good buisness from that site, its a place where you can read reviews on all sorts of food outlets.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on March 08, 2012, 08:25:34 PM
for any one wanting to create a buisness fb page. here is the link http://www.facebook.com/pages/create.php?ref_type=sitefooter
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Homepin on March 08, 2012, 10:20:03 PM
for any one wanting to create a buisness fb page. here is the link http://www.facebook.com/pages/create.php?ref_type=sitefooter

Yeah - I did that but I am completely at a loss.... ^&^...I can't even "look up" my page....is there some trick to it???
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on March 08, 2012, 10:23:40 PM
for any one wanting to create a buisness fb page. here is the link http://www.facebook.com/pages/create.php?ref_type=sitefooter

Yeah - I did that but I am completely at a loss.... ^&^...I can't even "look up" my page....is there some trick to it???

lol, damn this social media,
 is your page "homepin" ill search for it

you would log into your account, on facebook.com. then on your left hand side of the page you would see your pages, it will have your buisness there
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on March 09, 2012, 03:40:32 AM
are you on menumate.com.au ?? 

There are hundreds of online directories
I doubt many of them get any traffic

I just tried to use menumate.com.au, cluncky unfreindly website
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on March 09, 2012, 11:39:42 AM
are you on menumate.com.au ??  

There are hundreds of online directories
I doubt many of them get any traffic

I just tried to use menumate.com.au, cluncky unfreindly website

remember the more websites you have your website address on or phone number the higher your business will appear on google results. its worth putting your biz on as many as possible to get a higher google rate. menu mate sends about genuine 50 visitors to my webpage a week according to my awestats in my webpages cpanel it list exactly who came to my website from what outside source,google, facebook and menu mate are the top sources to send traffic to my page, if people are searching down my webpage thats good news, the top search to send to my webpage in meta, is the search for "food at landsborough" according to my awstats, menu mate is a popular directory and at the highest on google, so it appears high also menumate is not something you have to update after you edit it, but you want to make sure it has the correct info for your business. once you see increase in real traffic to your website and facebook, you will see real increase of traffic to your shop. good idea is to google your buisness and see what is the first listing to apear with your contact details, then you try the next thing of googling pie shop in your area and see which apears, hopefully yours is one of the top, if not you can increase the possition by more links on external pages. i hope all this helps mate, reason im offering this help as i know how it was before i worked al lthis out, it is confusing
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Homepin on March 09, 2012, 04:40:21 PM
Homepin was taken so I am

facebook.com/HomepinPinball
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on March 09, 2012, 05:05:55 PM
Homepin was taken so I am

facebook.com/HomepinPinball
ok well make sure you edit the page and add your details. and maybe do like popbumper is doing and add some building board pics or something. then put a we are on on facebook tag on your webpage to advertise it. i dont think it will take long for many members here or customers to like your page. i got sent a free $50 ad voucher from facebook, im about to launch $50 worth of direct targeting adds wont spend a dollar more than the free voucher, lol but ill report back if if i get an increase of nativity from these Facebook adds, all the adds do is save me a bit of marketing pretty much it will appear on every one in my local areas fb page and those who have similar interests eg they are food people, or like hamburgers, things like that in our area, it says that fits the de******ion of 35000 people,the add will appear on these people page untill its been clicked to many times and i run out of my budget of $50 worth of clicks, so its pay per click.i thought ill take advantage of a free trial and see. i did some marketing of our page early on to get people to the page like posting on our aframe sign and that sort of thing, ill see if this facebook advertising actually increases or not and report for those interested, from time to time facebook seems to send you these sort of trial add vouchers i have previously ignored them but with al lthis talk here i thought i would give it ago and take advantage of it and see if it increases traffic, it also let me target the add to people who have just moved to our area, that might be handy advertising??? not sure will find out i guess
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: pinsanity on March 10, 2012, 08:54:29 AM
I used a fake name with a disposable email address to sign up a while back to see what all the fuss was about.

Browsed through some profiles of people I haven't seen in years and have no real interest in anymore.

Found that 99.9% of the profiles were filled with pretentious, inane crap. Yes, we get that you like watching The Simpsons, listening to the Foo Fighters on your I try hard Pod, thumbing through the ghostwritten biography of an overpaid sportsperson, and you can prove your children are far more gifted than anyone else's children by posting an endless stream of photos of them engaging in awkward poses in completely contrived scenarios.

In other words, you are the same as every other Facebook user.

Logged out, never signed back on and got on with life.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: elkor-alish on March 10, 2012, 01:33:35 PM
I should have done a poll.
I'd love to know the Love/Hate ratio.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Homepin on March 10, 2012, 02:05:20 PM
I should have done a pole.
I'd love to know the Love/Hate ratio.

Hey!! "I'M" a pole (Kalinowski) - I don't want you 'doing' me..... %.%

I think you might mean 'poll'…......
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: elkor-alish on March 11, 2012, 01:17:09 AM
Yes I did mean "Poll".

I know how much incorrect spelling annoys you, so I just did it to sh!t you off.  %.% #*#
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on March 11, 2012, 01:25:15 AM
that said homepin has some interesting pics on his facebook page,
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Homepin on March 11, 2012, 09:34:07 AM
Yes I did mean "Poll".

I know how much incorrect spelling annoys you, so I just did it to sh!t you off.  %.% #*#

You ass........ !*!
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Homepin on March 11, 2012, 09:35:30 AM
that said homepin has some interesting pics on his facebook page,

I intend to complete that series showing construction of a board from start to finish as there are probably a few interesting points that some are not aware of - that will take a few more days however...
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Retropin on March 11, 2012, 11:52:23 AM
Title is...

WHAT'S THE ATTRACTION OF FACEBOOK?

Ive just logged in and one friend in UK is telling me there is blossom on the trees... another is watching SAW V... anothers dog shit on the floor overnight.....

 :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble:


God help us all...
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on March 11, 2012, 11:09:38 PM
Title is...

WHAT'S THE ATTRACTION OF FACEBOOK?

Ive just logged in and one friend in UK is telling me there is blossom on the trees... another is watching SAW V... anothers dog shit on the floor overnight.....

 :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble: :tumble:


God help us all...

lol you should join homepins page, he has interesting things, theres an attraction to facebook am i correct?? lol
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: ajlaird on March 12, 2012, 08:45:53 AM
that said homepin has some interesting pics on his facebook page,

How do I find his page?
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on March 12, 2012, 09:22:24 AM
that said homepin has some interesting pics on his facebook page,

How do I find his page?

http://www.facebook.com/HomepinPinball

you can find my page ;
http://www.facebook.com/PeterPopesPies

:D
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: GORGAR 1 on March 12, 2012, 09:57:02 AM
Bloody hell Pete your pies look sensational bet Ballarat can't get enough

Peter
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: goodolddays on March 12, 2012, 10:00:31 AM
Great start with your page there Pete .

The pics are making me hungry  *%*
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on March 12, 2012, 10:15:22 AM
I think I am going to have to buy a video camera (or find a tripod for the phone)

I want to make a video of me making sausage rolls, still pics will not look as cool
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: pinnies4me on March 12, 2012, 10:18:01 AM
Just "Liked" your page mate - think I'd like one or two of them pies as well!! Looks like it'll be your shout for lunch when you get down here.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Homepin on March 12, 2012, 10:22:58 AM
I have added more pics in the assembling a board folder and want to add a youtube video but the Facebook site is FAR from user friendly - I find it very difficult and clunky to use.…..

I 'tried' to like your page Peter but it would only allow me to like a picture...

To be honest I find the Facebook site very user - UNfriendly.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on March 12, 2012, 10:32:57 AM
I have added more pics in the assembling a board folder and want to add a youtube video but the Facebook site is FAR from user friendly - I find it very difficult and clunky to use.…..

I 'tried' to like your page Peter but it would only allow me to like a picture...

To be honest I find the Facebook site very user - UNfriendly.

Yep, I agree, it can sometimes be hard to find that one button you are looking for
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on March 12, 2012, 12:31:26 PM
wow pete your page looks great, have you been advertising the fact you have afacebook page at your shop?? if you post that you have how you make pies and all that on your page people should join up quick. its a very neat page fantastic work. if your ever up my way bring me a tray lol they look tasty
 yer you guys are using the new time line style facebook, im not using time line as i dont understand it lol, it will be a full mandatory change to my page style at the end of this month so my page will be like yours soon, ill be asking you guys how to use it when i have to change lol, once you get used to it im sure you'll be fine.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on March 12, 2012, 01:27:46 PM
Jason, I wanted to get a bit of content on the site before I advertise it in the shop
you only get one chance to make a first impression (gawd, I cannot believe I just said that )

I need to get a big picture of the shop front for the page, then I will make up a sign to go in the shop
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on March 12, 2012, 01:36:38 PM
Jason, I wanted to get a bit of content on the site before I advertise it in the shop
you only get one chance to make a first impression (gawd, I cannot believe I just said that )

I need to get a big picture of the shop front for the page, then I will make up a sign to go in the shop
fair enough, im going to keep an eye out on your page so i can figure out this "time line" thing, as you can see my facebook page is different as im using the old style page, which new people cant use now as they are changing facebook to that style you have, i dont seem to like the time line interface as much it does seem harder, but i guess that might be because im used to the current format, ill see how you work it and might be helpful to me when i am forced by facebook to change.
your page really does look good, you already have 6 people liking your page thats good. i guess one good thing about the "time line" settup, your pictures are put nicely on the page where as mine on the current format just puts them a bit like a thread on a forum down the page and lost,

ps my missus reads allot of these posts with me here, , she said your page looks really great, so thats good when a woman says your facebook page is good that means you are on the right track, ahaha

by the way, homepin, ive spent a bit of time on your page, mate its very interesting how much work goes into those boards and seeing a bare board turn into a finish board, fantastic stuff. people looking at that would be very appreciative seeing the bang for buck on their boards they buy from you.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: ajlaird on March 13, 2012, 07:16:05 PM
that said homepin has some interesting pics on his facebook page,

How do I find his page?

http://www.facebook.com/HomepinPinball

you can find my page ;
http://www.facebook.com/PeterPopesPies

:D

Thanks, very odd that searching for homepin did not bring up the site???
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: ajlaird on March 13, 2012, 07:21:11 PM
By the way, Pete, great photo from 19 years ago in the newspaper article there!
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on March 13, 2012, 07:44:14 PM
By the way, Pete, great photo from 19 years ago in the newspaper article there!

I knew I had it and wanted to put it up on the page
only took my half a day to find it  @.@
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on March 15, 2012, 02:37:59 AM
that said homepin has some interesting pics on his facebook page,

How do I find his page?

http://www.facebook.com/HomepinPinball

you can find my page ;
http://www.facebook.com/PeterPopesPies

:D

Thanks, very odd that searching for homepin did not bring up the site???

yer i found the same thing with homepins page its very strange. first time i have encountered that i recon, must be a setting or something??? any ideas?
it does come up with his website however
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Homepin on April 09, 2012, 11:14:07 AM
Some pics and details of my latest 'paying' job....

http://www.facebook.com/HomepinPinball
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on April 09, 2012, 06:42:05 PM
yer i saw that today when you did the update, some very interesting pictures of the led display
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Homepin on April 09, 2012, 06:51:23 PM
yer i saw that today when you did the update, some very interesting pictures of the led display

It all went quite well really - I visited the factory three times in all and was trained on the software and they were very open about common problems etc. which was quite refreshing.

When I was testing it in the workshop prior to install I had a few issues and the factory was excellent helping via Skype chat for a few hours with settings and so on. All of this was very worthwhile as the final install went with almost no hitches.…..

This job was worth $100K......should have been more actually

I will add some pics on Facebook about the screen with closeups of the modules and some more display pics in a day or so.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: ajlaird on April 10, 2012, 11:27:43 PM
Nice one, was it hard to get council approval?
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on April 11, 2012, 01:02:28 AM
yer i saw that today when you did the update, some very interesting pictures of the led display

It all went quite well really - I visited the factory three times in all and was trained on the software and they were very open about common problems etc. which was quite refreshing.

When I was testing it in the workshop prior to install I had a few issues and the factory was excellent helping via Skype chat for a few hours with settings and so on. All of this was very worthwhile as the final install went with almost no hitches.…..

This job was worth $100K......should have been more actually

I will add some pics on Facebook about the screen with closeups of the modules and some more display pics in a day or so.

the module closeups would be cool to see, ive always wondered how they look right up close, how far apart are the led's? its amazing how when you stand away from them how close the led pixels are. how many leds would go into a job that big roughly?
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Homepin on April 11, 2012, 07:50:13 AM
Nice one, was it hard to get council approval?

The owner applied for - and pushed it through council - with some restrictions.

They cannot show movies, the slides must be no less than 15 seconds apart, the use of green is to be minimised (so as to avoid drivers thinking the lights had changed) and 1 in 10 slides is to be donated to charity (for things like Red Shield Appeal etc).

This screen is pretty typical of most outdoor screens and the pixel spacing is 10mm. Each group of 3 LEDs (R,G & B) is clustered and spaced 10mm from the next cluster.

The LEDs are special oval shaped ones that spread the light sideways to give a wider viewing angle.

On a full white screen the specifications show that the screen draws 1771 amps at 5 volts (not a typo). There are 2 x 60A, 5V power supplies in each cabinet making a total of 40 power supplies and a capacity at 5V of 2400 amps !!!!
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Retropin on April 11, 2012, 08:51:54 AM
Thats a lot of current on the LED side.

 240VAC side would be even more due to losses in the SMPS. The 12V supplies are pretty  inefficient.. never used the 5V.
Its suprising how much these babies cost to run.

Looks good BTW Mike... job well done  ^^^
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Homepin on April 11, 2012, 10:03:03 AM
Your right about the power consumption Gav! This screen requires 4 separate 10A 220V power points with EACH one capapble of supplying 10 amps - not connected in parallel on the same circuit.

I have updated the facebook page with closeup pics of the modules and also a couple of videos I took in the factory of the assembly process.

http://www.facebook.com/HomepinPinball

Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on April 11, 2012, 07:53:00 PM
I want a row of modules around the ceiling in my future games room

I also want a laser cutter, I have no use for one, but I want one anyway
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Homepin on July 30, 2012, 10:59:30 PM
Well I have truly tried to make a go of Facebook but I have concluded that the designers of it are complete MORONS and it doesn't surprise me one little bit that Facebook has lost HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars since it went public.

I have tried my best but it the most 'user UNfriendly' site I think I have EVER used and I have given up attempting to 'update' it. It is faster and MUCH easier to modify my own website using HTML.

Facebook is COMPLETE RUBBISH and I am now convinced it is a fad that will die.....

Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on July 30, 2012, 11:37:32 PM
Well I have truly tried to make a go of Facebook but I have concluded that the designers of it are complete MORONS and it doesn't surprise me one little bit that Facebook has lost HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars since it went public.

I have tried my best but it the most 'user UNfriendly' site I think I have EVER used and I have given up attempting to 'update' it. It is faster and MUCH easier to modify my own website using HTML.

Facebook is COMPLETE RUBBISH and I am now convinced it is a fad that will die.....



oh the fad will die for sure, that is certainly the case, lol. however sorry you are having trouble with it, i was enjoying your updates they were very interesting. there is a for a point where you must advertise the fact you are on facebook, and then you get to a point where you no longer have to, thats a viral effect. on my facebook i have grown allot and i dont need too advertise that i am on facebook anymore.
 i have also noticed that i have got the the point where if i have new product that isnt selling, i post it on my page and say how fantastic it is every body clicks like and bingo that product sells, lol it has been very helpfull reaching people in towns surrounding me that i had trouble reaching outside of our town. since my last posts here i have doubled my facebook likes and my viral reach is over 2000 people.
My buisness has grown considerably, i certainly believe that it is contributed to this form of advertising, there is no way i could have reached the amount of people i have with out it. what is amazing the most to me is having loyal fan base on a business and how people are actually willing to advertise your business.
 thats what i have found any ways. i cant see how facebook can make money, when you dont need to pay for their stupid adds, its so easy to advertise for free on it. virtually they have design a system thats work on viral effect, so efficiently you dont need adds, there system is to efficient to need to pay for adds. the adds are an after thought and that shows and they cant make money.
From time to time i tested how strong my adverts were, so i post my website on my facebook page, i have stats grabber that tells me where the majority of my hits come from, facebook is the strongest source to my webpage out doing google 100 times. yes it will die in the ass one time and when that happens i will be moving with what ever is new to do the same thing. lol
My success could be purely on the type of business i am also. heres my page to see how i am doing it http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mellum-Munchies/115543965165829
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Strangeways on July 31, 2012, 12:00:14 AM

I was in IT for 24 years, and I've seen technology advance in areas that are simply amazing. Social Media like Facebook, and leading us back into the caves. The question II used to get asked all the time "You are in IT, how come you are not on facebook". NOW the same people ask me "How do I get off facebook".

I kindly remind them that you cannot remove your footprints from concrete. You may have deleted your photos or comments, but they are not deleted forever.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on July 31, 2012, 12:12:31 AM
oh yer thats for sure. you have to be very very carefull what you post on these things.
i run my business page and thats as far as i go into it. im just taking advantage of all those on it and business is silly not too. lol
My prediction with the fall of facebook is when they finally start to charge for usage or the adds get overwhelming.
atm facebooks problem is people dont click on the adds down the side of the page, lol facebook gets paid for per click.
however when i make a posts, im not putting up an add down the side bar of facebook that no one clicks, lol it appears in their users latest posts, lol the exact place their friends posts show up, so its not being ignored.
the adds are an after thought and he is struggling to make the adds work, they also dont display adds on mobile devices lol, so companies arent paying for adds they are just relying on likes and latest posts in peoples profiles.
i think he will have to start putting in adds in users posts, that is when they will have users switching off, because atm how it is settup is only adds users wish to like will be displayed. no one will tolerate being forced to view adds. thats what i recon will happen to facebook. or now the fact they are on the stock market if they crash facebook will disappear, lol

but hey as long as people are willing to accept my posts which are essentially advertising from my business, im happy to supply that demand to them lol

i should also state my personal account has wrong birthdays, wrong addresses, and plenty of other false details, i dont like the idea of a website holding that sort of info, the sort of info that could possible get you into a bank account. i also dont link up family members to my accounts.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Freiherr on July 31, 2012, 12:47:33 AM
Quote
I was in IT for 24 years, and I've seen technology advance in areas that are simply amazing. Social Media like Facebook, and leading us back into the caves. The question II used to get asked all the time "You are in IT, how come you are not on facebook". NOW the same people ask me "How do I get off facebook".I kindly remind them that you cannot remove your footprints from concrete. You may have deleted your photos or comments, but they are not deleted forever.
+1
I was in IT for 23 years and will never touch Facebook. Call me an unsocial snob but I have no footprints to hide.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Crashramp on July 31, 2012, 12:53:41 AM
Well I have truly tried to make a go of Facebook but I have concluded that the designers of it are complete MORONS and it doesn't surprise me one little bit that Facebook has lost HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars since it went public.

I have tried my best but it the most 'user UNfriendly' site I think I have EVER used and I have given up attempting to 'update' it. It is faster and MUCH easier to modify my own website using HTML.

Facebook is COMPLETE RUBBISH and I am now convinced it is a fad that will die.....



Mate I shouldn't have looked at your Facebook page. Now I'm hungry!  @.@ Burgers look awsome and I like the sound of the ribs special.  *%*

oh the fad will die for sure, that is certainly the case, lol. however sorry you are having trouble with it, i was enjoying your updates they were very interesting. there is a for a point where you must advertise the fact you are on facebook, and then you get to a point where you no longer have to, thats a viral effect. on my facebook i have grown allot and i dont need too advertise that i am on facebook anymore.
 i have also noticed that i have got the the point where if i have new product that isnt selling, i post it on my page and say how fantastic it is every body clicks like and bingo that product sells, lol it has been very helpfull reaching people in towns surrounding me that i had trouble reaching outside of our town. since my last posts here i have doubled my facebook likes and my viral reach is over 2000 people.
My buisness has grown considerably, i certainly believe that it is contributed to this form of advertising, there is no way i could have reached the amount of people i have with out it. what is amazing the most to me is having loyal fan base on a business and how people are actually willing to advertise your business.
 thats what i have found any ways. i cant see how facebook can make money, when you dont need to pay for their stupid adds, its so easy to advertise for free on it. virtually they have design a system thats work on viral effect, so efficiently you dont need adds, there system is to efficient to need to pay for adds. the adds are an after thought and that shows and they cant make money.
From time to time i tested how strong my adverts were, so i post my website on my facebook page, i have stats grabber that tells me where the majority of my hits come from, facebook is the strongest source to my webpage out doing google 100 times. yes it will die in the ass one time and when that happens i will be moving with what ever is new to do the same thing. lol
My success could be purely on the type of business i am also. heres my page to see how i am doing it http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mellum-Munchies/115543965165829
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Crashramp on July 31, 2012, 12:59:13 AM
Well I have truly tried to make a go of Facebook but I have concluded that the designers of it are complete MORONS and it doesn't surprise me one little bit that Facebook has lost HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars since it went public.

I have tried my best but it the most 'user UNfriendly' site I think I have EVER used and I have given up attempting to 'update' it. It is faster and MUCH easier to modify my own website using HTML.

Facebook is COMPLETE RUBBISH and I am now convinced it is a fad that will die.....



Mate I shouldn't have looked at your Facebook page. Now I'm hungry!  @.@ Burgers look awsome and I like the sound of the ribs special.  *%*

oh the fad will die for sure, that is certainly the case, lol. however sorry you are having trouble with it, i was enjoying your updates they were very interesting. there is a for a point where you must advertise the fact you are on facebook, and then you get to a point where you no longer have to, thats a viral effect. on my facebook i have grown allot and i dont need too advertise that i am on facebook anymore.
 i have also noticed that i have got the the point where if i have new product that isnt selling, i post it on my page and say how fantastic it is every body clicks like and bingo that product sells, lol it has been very helpfull reaching people in towns surrounding me that i had trouble reaching outside of our town. since my last posts here i have doubled my facebook likes and my viral reach is over 2000 people.
My buisness has grown considerably, i certainly believe that it is contributed to this form of advertising, there is no way i could have reached the amount of people i have with out it. what is amazing the most to me is having loyal fan base on a business and how people are actually willing to advertise your business.
 thats what i have found any ways. i cant see how facebook can make money, when you dont need to pay for their stupid adds, its so easy to advertise for free on it. virtually they have design a system thats work on viral effect, so efficiently you dont need adds, there system is to efficient to need to pay for adds. the adds are an after thought and that shows and they cant make money.
From time to time i tested how strong my adverts were, so i post my website on my facebook page, i have stats grabber that tells me where the majority of my hits come from, facebook is the strongest source to my webpage out doing google 100 times. yes it will die in the ass one time and when that happens i will be moving with what ever is new to do the same thing. lol
My success could be purely on the type of business i am also. heres my page to see how i am doing it http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mellum-Munchies/115543965165829

Mate I shouldn't have looked at your Facebook page. Now I'm hungry  @.@ the Burgers look awsome and I like the sound of your rib special.  *%*
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on July 31, 2012, 01:06:25 AM
ahaha your welcome to come in any time mate.  ^^^
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: pinsanity on July 31, 2012, 05:02:49 AM
Further proof of biological devolution.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on July 31, 2012, 12:19:33 PM
Could i make a suggestion homepin?? when you send out your boards maybe include your facebook link on a printout, if they join your page and see your product updates it might increase future sales.
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Homepin on July 31, 2012, 12:29:07 PM
Maybe - the issue I have with Facebook is that it takes a LOT of time to keep updating it and the site is VERY user un-friendly. It is a very 'clunky', poorly thought out site.

I can't believe so many use it - it's next to unusable for me???
Title: Re: What's the attraction with Facebook?
Post by: Olivia_jason on July 31, 2012, 01:17:10 PM
Maybe - the issue I have with Facebook is that it takes a LOT of time to keep updating it and the site is VERY user un-friendly. It is a very 'clunky', poorly thought out site.

I can't believe so many use it - it's next to unusable for me???

yer facebook has certainly got worse, this is their latest system, they changed to this format prior to dropping facebook on the stock market. it is shithouse, the older system was a better system, your not alone on this this format of facebook. i have had to take allot of time to learn this format, it is clunky as you say, it was stupid how they changed from a very userfriendly system to a shit one. this was a case of they shouldnt have tried to fix what wasnt broken. hopefully they change this format soon i have feeling they will have too soon