The Aussie Pinball Arcade
Aussie Pinball Forums => Restorations => Topic started by: Strangeways on July 12, 2014, 01:24:11 AM
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A very "busy" game that sneaks under the radar and is a whole lot of fun. Funhouse on steroids and a widebody that may have been more successful with a different theme ? This is a reconditioning job for another AP member.
Condition Report
Cabinet - 9/10 - Best I've seen. Has some scuff marks and the only problem I see is the security bolts on the front panel.
Playfield - 9/10 - Zero wear. Should really be a 10/10 as I can't find a blemish..
Electrical / Electronic - 9/10 - Very clean boards. An excellent example of a low play game.
BEFORE pictures
This is a really nice machine. Looks like it is a low play game in excellent condition. Regardless, it will get the full treatment. This is a really "busy" game that is very interesting if it is working 100%.
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20008.JPG)
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Just a dirty playfield. No wear in the outhole area.
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20012.JPG)
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Boards are all in great shape. connectors will be checked, but this has been a well looked after machine.
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20041.JPG)
One of the cleanest games I've ever seen. Under the playfield was immaculate. Very interesting to see how clean it is..
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20059.JPG)
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Seriously, I have not done ANY work on this machine. It is that clean !!
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20071.JPG)
Pop Bumpers. Old and tired. Need to be replaced with NEW parts. They will look so much better !
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20135.JPG)
Playfield stripped and a quick clean with Novus 2 - VERY VERY pleased !
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20137.JPG)
The factory mylar was removed from the Pop Bumper section. New parts will be added.
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20138.JPG)
End of Part 1 !
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I haven't seen the whole thing yet, but the apron looks wonderful. Most of the ones I've seen over the years had heavy rust under the apron, and the paint was flaking off.
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I haven't seen the whole thing yet, but the apron looks wonderful. Most of the ones I've seen over the years had heavy rust under the apron, and the paint was flaking off.
The apron, the mechs and the wiring look extremely clean. Not "this has been shopped out clean", but the entire game has had low plays. All the other Roadshows I've seen are beat to death.
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They are beet to death as it is a super fun game. Was this the first game with a shaker motor as standard?
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Amazing condition Nino,
was this from your latest DMD haul #@#
are 2 heads better than 1 &&
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I can't believe there is no playfield damage near the fish. The game will look great when it is all cleaned up and back together.
Was there any mylar near the slings? Mine had mylar there, not sure if it was something that was provided with a new game and was up to the operator to install?
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I haven't seen the whole thing yet, but the apron looks wonderful. Most of the ones I've seen over the years had heavy rust under the apron, and the paint was flaking off.
WMS had a bad batch of aprons installed on Roadshows that later had heavy rust. Pretty common. But seemed to only effect Roadshow's more than any other title. Hence the reason the apron decals were quick to be remade
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They are beet to death as it is a super fun game. Was this the first game with a shaker motor as standard?
The first Bally / Williams. DE had been doing it earlier on Checkpoint.
Amazing condition Nino,
was this from your latest DMD haul #@#
are 2 heads better than 1 &&
No - This game was from a genuine private collection in another shipment (The words "private" and "collection" seem to be overused these days for games clearly hoarded or forgotten about) from Europe.
I can't believe there is no playfield damage near the fish. The game will look great when it is all cleaned up and back together.
Was there any mylar near the slings? Mine had mylar there, not sure if it was something that was provided with a new game and was up to the operator to install?
The only mylar was around the pops. The sling mylars were still on their backing on the bottom of the machine !
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No it's not. Earthshaker had a standard shaker, back in the Sys11 era :)
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are you putting mylar back under pop areas. the game looks sweet
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are you putting mylar back under pop areas. the game looks sweet
No need. The factory mylar has protected the area since the day it rolled off the production line. There's no way this area will ever wear.
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As per all my restoration work, the entire playfield is stripped. The parts are washed and then tumbled. After tumbling, I sort and store them ;
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20161.JPG)
The Ramps are in excellent condition. they are stripped, cleaned and polished.
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20164.JPG)
Here it is - my favorite "short cut" - the Pop Bumpers ! Stripped and cleaned. All parts that look like they are on the way out are replaced NOW.
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20165.JPG)
I know I whinge a lot about pop bumpers, but the other important part of the game are the flippers. I've seen some really bad work lately in this area, even to the point of tumbling WORN assemblies. The only way to ascertain if the parts are not broken or fatigued is to completely strip the assemblies. Cleaning the stripped parts can demonstrate what I'm referring to. I've stripped and cleaned the flipper parts. I'm going to replace these anyway, but the problems appear AFTER cleaning. Here's a cleaned bushing - that looked ok - but dirty when I stripped the mechanism ;
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20173.JPG)
It has a crack in the shaft. Here's a new bushing for comparison ;
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20174.JPG)
Another example - These look like four NEW flipper coil stops ;
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20176.JPG)
Two ARE new and two are VERY worn !
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20177.JPG)
Flipper rebuild process ;
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Other mechanisms are completely rebuilt - Even the shaker motor
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Cabinet is cleaned and re assembled
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Back to the topside of the playfield. Metal guides and posts are installed
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A nice shine to the playfield as I reassemble
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20192.JPG)
Outhole repair - This is done properly. I don't simply install a Cliffy without repairing the damage, otherwise the newly installed Cliffy will follow the shape of the wear area.
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20193.JPG)
Repairs to the area ;
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Prepare for fitting
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Done !
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Bill and Red have a makeover !
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Stripped and cleaned. This process also reveals any outstanding issues
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Someone is happy !
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Both happy !
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Installed into game for testing..
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Heaps more to go on this involving restoration !
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Looking like it will be a nice machine when finished! Thanks for sharing the information. I have picked up many techniques from your threads.
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Looking like it will be a nice machine when finished! Thanks for sharing the information. I have picked up many techniques from your threads.
Thanks for the positive comments ! I enjoy documenting the process, and I'm happy to hear members pick up tips that they can use on their games ^^^
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Looking like it will be a nice machine when finished! Thanks for sharing the information. I have picked up many techniques from your threads.
*%* just don't get the same result! YET
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I've always wanted to ask but keep forgetting, do you replace all coils with new when rebuilding or just those that are obviously cooked? What do you look for and consider to decide its time to replace a coil? Difficult to remove sleeves, low resistance readings?
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I've always wanted to ask but keep forgetting, do you replace all coils with new when rebuilding or just those that are obviously cooked? What do you look for and consider to decide its time to replace a coil? Difficult to remove sleeves, low resistance readings?
The first thing I do is check that the correct coils are in the correct position. Sounds basic, but most games have the incorrect coils. Most commonly - Flippers. If the coil sleeve is burned or difficult to remove, I check the resistance of that coil, and if it is not good, I throw it out. I check the resistance of all coils. If the wrappers are falling off, or if they are generic labels, I print off new labels and install.
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What is the time frame on doing all of this?
I am an amateur with up keep of a machine, but try to do things correctly when I have to.
But the time you put into each machine is amazing. Average?
Simon.
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What is the time frame on doing all of this?
I am an amateur with up keep of a machine, but try to do things correctly when I have to.
But the time you put into each machine is amazing. Average?
Simon.
Each game is different. I never put a limit on the timeframe as I don't want any part of the work compromised. I know that dealers pride themselves on finishing games within 20 hours, but mine take more than 35 as I remove just about every moving part. Usually I strip the game and then take notes of parts I need and then I start cleaning etc until the parts arrive. If i have to order game specific from O/S. then I put the game to one side and work on something else. I never time the hours it takes. Mainly because I enjoy doing it. The only time I record time is for repairs, or if I have to go over someone else's "work" - which happens quite a lot. I don't do "half jobs" - it is "my way or the highway" !
I'd say this game is around 35-40 hours.
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I'm playing a bit of "catch up" with my restoration threads, and this game has been completed for a while. There's a lot of mechanisms that need to be rebuilt, and I'm amazed at how much is crammed into games like Roadshow, ST TNG and TZ.
Here's the completed underside of the playfield after every moving part has been removed and rebuilt ;
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The playfield has been completed and most of the testing done. I'm very pleased with the end product.
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20231.JPG)
The cabinet has a lot of color for a game of this age. Original legs are in great condition
(http://australianpinballrestorations.com.au/pictures/Restorations/Roadshow/Roadshow%20230.JPG)
Here's some bling shots of the completed game.
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Completed machine
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This machine is VERY much a sleeper title. I can't recall playing a perfectly working example, so I've never appreciated it and as such, categorized it as a "C- Bally / Williams", but I have to say is is definitely a VERY good player if working correctly. It plays as well as a ST TNG or IJ widebody. I have a blast play testing the machine !
The game will be picked up by an AP member next month ^^^
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Nino, that machine looks NIB, great work. I agree with you about machines needing to be 100% to trully appreciate their play. I often see crappy coments by people rating older machines which I played when new. People should play machines set up the way the designers intended them to be played. That is the heart and soul of a machine and not just the shell.
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Lucky owner. Good original themed game ^^^
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Very nice work Nino,
Played one awhile ago for the first time, great entry level machine that's for sure