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Title: rubbish or restoration
Post by: trish hill on March 20, 2012, 12:30:22 AM
hi all imnew to this sight as of today i have a pinball machine that has not seen the light of day for 20 years thought i would get it out of storage for my COD addicted 13 year old really not sure where to start backglass is gone everthing else seems fine i havnt turned it on yet (have a little mice nest ) and still havnt taken the glass off  i did a search and this is the machine i have http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=3974
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: Homepin on March 20, 2012, 12:37:47 AM
Welcome.

The very first thing you need to do is open up the headbox and identify every board - what it does and where it is located.

The second thing you need to do is make sure the backup battery is chopped off the MPU board OR chop it off yourself - RIGHT NOW!

This battery is the single most common 'killer' of the MPU (main computer board) in these machines.

If you are in doubt take some pics, put them up here and there will be plenty of members able and willing to help.

Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: Caveoftreasures on March 20, 2012, 12:43:40 AM
good advice from Mike.  ^^^  its a rare machine with only 150 made.

did u play this as a kid ? what is the machines history etc.? Youve' had it for 20 years in storage by your PM. That might have been a good thing, less use etc.

Depending on where u live, there are a few members who specialise in doing full restorations to make machines live to see another day properly for a long time etc.  ^^^

Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: trish hill on March 20, 2012, 12:51:38 AM
my partner got it in melbourne 20 years ago its been in a shipping container with the rest of our TOO BIG treasures for about 16 years i dont know how to put the photos on this site sorry
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: Homepin on March 20, 2012, 12:56:44 AM
my partner got it in melbourne 20 years ago its been in a shipping container with the rest of our TOO BIG treasures for about 16 years i dont know how to put the photos on this site sorry

That's OK - put the pics on any site you like and give us a link...photobucket, whatever......it will be great to see this come to life.
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: trish hill on March 20, 2012, 01:11:29 AM
http://s1060.photobucket.com/albums/t450/trishhill/
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: trish hill on March 20, 2012, 01:16:37 AM
when i opened it i found a manual like new
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: Homepin on March 20, 2012, 01:33:23 AM
when i opened it i found a manual like new

It looks very clean - excellent!

The printed circuit board that is top leaft Is the main computer board (MPU) and in the centre at the bottom of that board is a blue battery pack - this has obviously been replaced from the original but even so, do yourself a favor and cut it off right now and bin it - the repairs and the reason will become obvious to you in time.

Well done - it certainly looks like a 'repairer' to me.

Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: beaky on March 20, 2012, 01:35:13 AM
if you could take a close up photo of the battery area on the MPU board and upload it to where your other photos are.

the battery is the little blue thing at the bottom centre on the top left board. (as home pin has stated) I just want to see if there is any acid damage

oh  $.$ &  %)% also
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: goodolddays on March 20, 2012, 02:29:37 AM
 %)% Trish . Hopefully this machine will prove to be an easy fix
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: Olivia_jason on March 20, 2012, 02:32:33 AM
listen very carefully to guys like homepin and beaky these guys are very clever with boards, and having had beaky rebuild boards for me, if you neeed boards worked on he is the guy.
very interesting machine by the way, only 150 made, thats something we dont see all the time
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: Strangeways on March 20, 2012, 09:41:51 AM

 $.$ and  %)% to Aussie Pinball  ^^^



A conversion of Bally Supersonic. Not a bad player at all. I would check all the fuse values on the rectifier board - which is the board mounted above the transformer.

It would be a European conversion, so it should run on 240V, but you will need to change the plug. An electrician can do this for you.

Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: trish hill on March 20, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
i have added more photos to my link
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: Homepin on March 20, 2012, 12:09:37 PM
i have added more photos to my link

It looks quite good - some elbow grease and a little TLC on the connectors and you might have a goer!

The MPU 'looks' OK butyou really do nead to have a critical (close) inspection of the board for corrosion around the blue battery - corrosion here CAN write the entire board off so better to correct that before doing anything else IMO.

There are some very well known 'issues' with this era of machine (basically it is an early solid state (SS) Bally but most issues are easy to sort out.

You should have an interesting learning experience getting it all sorted - there is a wealth of knowledge on this site and many who will be willing to tell you where to go (in a nice way) for parts etc.
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: Olivia_jason on March 20, 2012, 02:16:11 PM
is that a mouse nest on the playfield??? id pul lthat glass off and remove that stuff asap. and give it a wipe over. love to see what the playfeild looks like with out the glass on.
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: trish hill on March 20, 2012, 04:04:03 PM
YES IT IS A MICE NEST i have added more photos will take some more when i can get someone to help me get the glass off
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: pinnies4me on March 20, 2012, 04:20:19 PM
A fairly large file here (might mean OK quality) scan of the backglass, maybe can be printed in good enough quality for a replacement?

https://rapidshare.com/#!download|360p8|383001023|UVP_Fly_-_Backglass.png|9560|R~D18095F807B9533DE8A99B50BBCD27AD|4000|3000 (https://rapidshare.com/#!download|360p8|383001023|UVP_Fly_-_Backglass.png|9560|R~D18095F807B9533DE8A99B50BBCD27AD|4000|3000)
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: ktm450 on March 20, 2012, 05:21:56 PM
 %)% and good luck  *%*
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: Boots on March 20, 2012, 06:30:18 PM

A conversion of Bally Supersonic. Not a bad player at all. I would check all the fuse values on the rectifier board - which is the board mounted above the transformer.


I was just about to ask that.
The backglass images are from that "Never Ending Story" movie from the 80's.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0088323/
In fact looking at the IMDB it is the exact movie poster, might make it easy to get backglass art.
I remember the ads for that movie driving me crazy, it did seem "Never Ending".
hehe
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: beaky on March 20, 2012, 08:01:00 PM
Battery area looks fine. just cut the battery off as per home pin's post.

has it ever pluged in, in Australia? does it have an Australian 3 pin plug on it?
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: trish hill on March 20, 2012, 08:21:41 PM
Yes it does have a australian plug it was working when we put it in to storage, i haven't turned it on yet because of the mice nest.
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: Homepin on March 20, 2012, 08:24:35 PM
is that "mice" - "mouse" or "meece" nest  <.>
Title: Re: rubbish or restoration
Post by: Caveoftreasures on March 21, 2012, 03:51:45 AM
U are lucky the little bastards didnt chew a few hundred wires.  @.@

I think rats/or mice in a pinball machine are a pinball collectors ABSOLUTE WORST CASE NIGHTMARE.

Good luck with the machine. Looks like it shld clean up well.  ^^^