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Title: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 05, 2009, 05:28:09 PM
Here is another restore im currently doing.  This one will be a long process no need to rush it and ruin it considering its age.   Again this machine came from Mark c never expected to win but your snipe programs must have stuffed up again lol.  This machine is missing its backglass and the cabinet had been resparayed but it looked complete.  Once i had it home i set it up and gave it a once over and it fired into life was missing an arm for the match feature but found a replacement next time i visited mark.  I removed the Stainless trims which covered the woodrails.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 05, 2009, 05:39:24 PM
This is the first woodrail ive ever seen in the flesh let alone played. I love the manual ball return and the gobble holes what a great idea.  For its age the playfield is in great condition i think. It has a badly yellowed mylar on it but im to afraid to attempt to remove it.  Im still toying with the idea of removing it?  What do you guys think?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 05, 2009, 05:41:50 PM
The cabinet is in pretty solid condition except for the paint so ill strip it down and repaint it as original. I love the wooden door
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Ford Fairlane on April 05, 2009, 09:51:17 PM
Cant wait to see the finished product!!! Looks like a great base to work with!
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ktm450 on April 06, 2009, 08:55:17 PM
Awesome! what a great project!
Look forward to the updates  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: pinnies4me on April 06, 2009, 08:56:39 PM
Excellent Daniel - make sure its finished for the mini-meet tomorrow please! ;)
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 06, 2009, 08:57:54 PM
No worries ill get right on it lol
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: millsy on April 06, 2009, 09:11:59 PM
Hey Daniel,
What do you do in youre spare time - have you got a bed in your Shed/Gamesroom.
Kev
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 06, 2009, 11:20:42 PM
No such thing as spare time millsy ive always got something on the go.  And no i dont have a bed but i do have a really comfy couch and pillows and blankets tucked away incase she kicks me out lol
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ajlaird on April 07, 2009, 12:11:24 AM
Excellent Daniel - make sure its finished for the mini-meet tomorrow please! ;)

Mini-meet?? What mini-meet??
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 07, 2009, 06:32:59 AM
Hey Mate
              i invited a couple of the local boys over while the shed is half Tidy still dont have room for too many people but i promise once these stupid machines are gone ill invite a few more of you over
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ajlaird on April 07, 2009, 08:48:51 AM
Hey Mate
              i invited a couple of the local boys over while the shed is half Tidy still dont have room for too many people but i promise once these stupid machines are gone ill invite a few more of you over

Have fun - looking forward to coming over some time in the future.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: pinnies4me on April 07, 2009, 11:02:24 PM
No worries ill get right on it lol

You did, but before I could play it, Matt broke it!   !*!

Evil Matt.  %@#
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ktm450 on April 08, 2009, 10:35:33 AM
Hey hey, it was broken before I got to it  :lol
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 08, 2009, 04:08:08 PM
Lol its all my fault guys i pulled the glass of late the night before to help out Peach and must have stuffed something
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 08, 2009, 04:44:02 PM
Problem solved matt it will be working next time you visit. When i lifted the playfield the wires from the playfield to the main board fell across the tilt relay when i put it down.  But i knew at least one would have to stuff up
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ktm450 on April 09, 2009, 08:29:25 PM
Cool, see I get the blame for everything  :lol
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: pinnies4me on April 10, 2009, 04:27:50 PM
Makes up for the times we didn't catch you causing grief Matt.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 22, 2009, 06:22:02 PM
Well for those of you who didnt see my other post on this i removed the mylar from Marathon after months of chickening out im pretty happy with the result as i only lost small areas of solid color but no writing yeahhh $#$
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 22, 2009, 06:28:41 PM
Then me being not being able to help myself i tried to remove the brown stain the mylar had left. I tried everything from Eucalyptis oil to some stuff i cant even spell from ZEDX (Thanks mate) Only thing that worked was to rub the top layer off the paint with either ISOCOL and ME or just using wetrub.  Found wet rub to be best as i could apply more even pressure and cover a greater area.     The 2 pics shows my attempt to use ISOCOL and ME at least i found out how far i could go lol !!!
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 22, 2009, 06:32:26 PM
And a few shots of the progress so far at the moment im just trying to get the blue areas to be similar all over its not worth the risk going to far with this after my first failed attemp.  First pic ive sanded the right side only really shows the difference
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ktm450 on April 23, 2009, 04:59:22 PM
Looking much better mate  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 25, 2009, 01:21:52 AM
Just after some input before i go any further on this.  Should i sand and re laquer the top ball arch and apron or leave it original?  The bottom arch is missing a section should i try and make the missing piece or just make a whole new one?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 25, 2009, 01:28:11 PM
Ive found some photos of inside this machine this will all be cleaned up while the cabinet is stripped down for its respray
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 26, 2009, 01:06:04 PM
Well ive removed most of the PF inserts as they were all wonky but there are 4 large ones that i cant get out so ill just leave them there only a tiny bit below the surface.  Ive jsut picked up a 45kg gass bottle for my shed heater so might get a bit more done when im not freezing my ass off. Pictures to come later
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 26, 2009, 07:18:05 PM
Well big improvement today removed all te inserts sanded of as much yellow muck as i could and reseated them.  Didnt want to rub to far and lose the number so i just stopped when i started getting nervous *!@

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Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 26, 2009, 07:20:16 PM
refitted sorry forgot to add to last post
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 26, 2009, 07:30:50 PM
i made a trip to Super Cheap for some pure Canuba wax i remembered reading in a post that Mothers Californian gold works well and i have to agree its great stuff.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 26, 2009, 07:35:13 PM
After 6 coats of wax. Photos dont really do it justice
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 26, 2009, 07:40:04 PM
These few pics give a fair idea of the changes
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Strangeways on April 26, 2009, 07:44:57 PM


Magnificent ! Looks excellent.

Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 26, 2009, 07:47:50 PM
After ive finished cooking tea and putting my son to bed i might start to reinstall the playfield parts getting exciting now $#$
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 26, 2009, 08:01:13 PM
I also attempted to fix the delamination on the bottom of the playfield its not dry yet so fingers crossed it works.   I pushed wood glue as far down into the delaminated parts as i could them clamped it all together.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 26, 2009, 10:41:17 PM
Well been hard at it for almost 12 hours today and im glad to say im happy with the results.  But ive had to walk away before i smash something ive managed to loose one of the steel pieces and of course its not just flat plate its the crinkly looking one GGRRRRRRR ^.^   But enjoy the photos
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 26, 2009, 10:48:03 PM
Here are the plastic parts after a soak in hot water and dishwashing liquid, scrub with a toothbrush and then hit with novus 2. 

And a comparison photo before and after of the playfield for good measure
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: goodolddays on April 26, 2009, 10:55:09 PM
Its looking great mate  ^^^ . I admire your stamina and determination . Don't worry about the missing part .. it'll turn up, they always do  *%*
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ajlaird on April 26, 2009, 11:04:15 PM
Its looking great mate  ^^^ . I admire your stamina and determination . Don't worry about the missing part .. it'll turn up, they always do  *%*

Fantastic result. Just look in the last place first for that missing piece, you know it's always in the last place you look.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Retropin on April 27, 2009, 12:49:29 AM
Looks stunning!
 Well done mate... is one beautiful looking machine
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Strangeways on April 27, 2009, 10:03:36 AM

Great persistence, Daniel - Results are stunning  ^^^

Question - Have you thought of a coat of varnish for the ball arch ? That would finish it off beautifully !
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ktm450 on April 27, 2009, 10:15:52 AM
Fantastic result Daniel, hopefully your lost piece turns up soon  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on April 27, 2009, 11:15:38 AM
Real nice work there Daniel!

You must be stoked. All that hard work has really payed off.

Any news on the supply of those pix to help you with the reproduction backglass?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 27, 2009, 10:34:15 PM
GOOD NEWS  $#$  I found the missing part.  When i was pulling the machine apart i was putting all the metal parts into a Steel coinbox so i put a magnet in the center to stop all the screws and stuff going walkabouts which worked to well the missing part had magnetised itself to the wall of the cash box so no matter how much i tipped or shook it it stayed there LOL !!@
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Ford Fairlane on April 27, 2009, 10:55:19 PM
The last photo you posted looks FANTASTIC!!!!!, please tell me how you took that photo (dark room flash etc).  The photo really brings out your hard work so well done!
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 27, 2009, 10:58:16 PM
Hey Rob
             To be honest i cant tell you. I take photos with the flash on and off then just use whichever is the clearest but i do have a Fleuro Light Directly above where i work on them so either way there is plenty of light for the pics
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 27, 2009, 11:29:18 PM
Hey Nino
                      Yeah i have thought about recoating the ball arch i have to sand back all the Woodrails and re laquer them so ill wait and see how they turn out with the dark rusty patches. I also have to either remake or repair the lower apron as its missing a small section. So ill wait till the cabinet respray and see how i go.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 28, 2009, 06:29:45 PM
Well the playfield is almost done  $#$  Just need to connect the bumper rings to the coils and either fix or make a new wooden apron and replace the playfield nails and a few guides.   

 
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 28, 2009, 06:33:35 PM
I couldnt decide which of these pics looked best so you decide
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: goodolddays on April 28, 2009, 07:42:31 PM
I vote the 1st Pic Daniel .. shows more shine ... refresh my memory .. exactly what new parts have you had to buy for this game? .. it seems none to me  *!@
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: markc on April 28, 2009, 08:49:40 PM


mate  dosent look much different from when it left my pile  factory
at least you could've cleaned it ....



well done

mark
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ajlaird on April 28, 2009, 09:07:42 PM
Fantastic job - looking like a real winner now, whichever photo you pick.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on April 28, 2009, 09:17:58 PM
Feel the love for these old games....my vote for the last photo looking up the playfield between those flippers  *%*
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 28, 2009, 10:09:02 PM
Well so far for this game ive had to buy???????   Rubbers and Globes?  Yeah thats all
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ktm450 on April 29, 2009, 03:36:44 PM
Very nice Daniel  ^^^ Second photo without flash
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 29, 2009, 04:08:15 PM
Thanks Matt
                       Im glad i posted both as there is a mixed response
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Strangeways on April 30, 2009, 01:58:58 PM
Very nice Daniel  ^^^ Second photo without flash

I agree. Without Flash always brings out the natural colors.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 30, 2009, 05:20:47 PM
Im pretty happy with my attempt at repairing the delaminating playfield i didnt really get any good photos of it before but it turned out ok
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on April 30, 2009, 07:30:27 PM
Daniel,

Do you have one of these for your game? http://www.pbresource.com/signatur/gtb48.jpg

If not let me know and I will send one down

Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: pinnies4me on April 30, 2009, 09:13:33 PM
Looking forward to a game on that one Daniel, seeing Matt broke it last time...
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 30, 2009, 10:21:42 PM
Hey Tony
               I do have one but it has been broken and glued back together . If you have a spare that would be great
 Thanks
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 30, 2009, 10:23:11 PM
Hey Nick
               Your more than welcome to have a game once i get the playfield finished ill get you to come over before i start the cabinet respray as that might take me a while
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ktm450 on May 01, 2009, 10:38:11 AM
Looking forward to a game on that one Daniel, seeing Matt broke it last time...

Oi, not true  :lol

(Mods, we need a shit stirrer emoticon for Nick) *)*
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on May 01, 2009, 04:22:53 PM
Hey Tony
               I do have one but it has been broken and glued back together . If you have a spare that would be great
 Thanks

No worries,

Will send up with the other stuff when it's ready. Also noticed on game there is a beehive on the lower ball plunger - that isn't supposed to be there, so when you do your respray take that off and fill any holes (if any)
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on May 01, 2009, 04:37:01 PM
Yeah it does have a bee hive and two extra holes drilled so ill fill them and use the ball lift from the Continental Cafe
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on May 02, 2009, 11:24:32 PM
Well i cracked the shits with the Rock pinball and decided id do a bit more to marathon.  I made up a dodgy piece of wood to complete the apron and connect all the pop bumpers and reinstall all the standup switches.  Once that was all done it was ready for the big test..............

 Guess what happened??
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on May 02, 2009, 11:26:56 PM
You guessed it.    Didnt work grrr was fully working before i stripped it but wasnt once it was done.   So i spent the night trying to get it going again finally got a game from it aslong as you dont score one point as the one point score reel is sticking.  Hopefully i get a chance tomorrow the rebuild the reel and get a full game from the old girl.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on May 03, 2009, 03:20:10 PM
Well i finally got my first full game on Marathon today after finding a light socket that was occasionally shorting out and blowing the light fuse we had lights and away i went.   Found a few little issues like one pop bumper occasionally sticks and a few relays are noise buat apart from that all the scoring and specials all work as they should.   Once i strip it down for the cabinet respray ill rebuild the bottom of the playfield and relays but untill then it will be staying as it is.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: goodolddays on May 03, 2009, 04:35:30 PM
Well i finally got my first full game on Marathon today after finding a light socket that was occasionally shorting out and blowing the light fuse we had lights and away i went.   Found a few little issues like one pop bumper occasionally sticks and a few relays are noise buat apart from that all the scoring and specials all work as they should.   Once i strip it down for the cabinet respray ill rebuild the bottom of the playfield and relays but untill then it will be staying as it is.

Congrats Daniel . ^^^
 Must have been a fantastic feeling to play that 1st full game  *%*
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on May 03, 2009, 05:35:07 PM
Yep first game was great so was the second lol  Here are some pics of it lit up but hard to get a good photo with the lights on.
 This is how the old girl will sit for a while until i clean up the backlog of machines im working on for other people. Hope you have enjoyed the restore so far as much as i have
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ktm450 on May 04, 2009, 02:01:28 PM
Well done Daniel, looks great  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on May 06, 2009, 04:55:51 PM
Well the playfield is a done as its going to be until i do the cabinet respray so ive been researching what the original design looked like.  Ive gound a photo of the original design which matches the flyer but im just unsure of the colors.   
  To me i think the side colors would be similar to the playfield colors but they are just faded and stained in the photo

  What are your thought?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on May 07, 2009, 07:36:33 AM
The playfield and the cab would of been built at 2 different spots in Chicago. From memory the only part that Gottlieb didn't make for their games was the cabs whih were contracted out.

Suppose it depends on how fussy you are regarding matching the exact colours....even a close colour match when all resprayed will look so much better than what you have at present.

Just be warned though - that respray will be a massive job that will take weeks  *%*
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Strangeways on May 07, 2009, 09:37:56 AM

Daniel - The photo is not accurate !

The siderails are varnished - not Red. Although your lock down bar should be wood, not metal. Maybe ask Mark if he has the original and swap it over ? chances are that the machine arrived like that..

I would repaint it.

But I would do a lot of research to ensure the restoration of the cabinet is faithful to the original. You could also remake the legs.

One hell of an undertaking, but the reward would be worth it in my view !
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on May 07, 2009, 03:46:29 PM
Tony put me onto a bloke who has a lockdown bar for sale but he has gone quiet so ill be patient. Legs will be a pain but ill get there.  And im going to enjoy playing the machine for a few weeks before i strip it for the respray stripping it back will suck as im sure it will be lead based paint.  *!@
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on May 08, 2009, 10:22:31 PM
 $#$   Yeah i got an email from the guy regarding the lock bar i should have a postage cost this weekend  $#$
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on May 09, 2009, 08:36:33 AM
This was an email back from Clay regarding either to varnish or stain the timber:

Neither. The original finish used on side rails was lacquer.
If you want to do a nice woodrail finish, i recommend this.

1. sand rails. do not go nuts and try and make them look
perfect. you're missing the point if you do. go 100, 150, 220,400.

2. stain rails. the original finish was nitrocellulose
lacquer. it yellows something fierce, which anyone in
the finish biz would think as "bad". hence the change to
acyrlic lacquer in the 1960s. but you need to get that "look".

I use ainline alcohol dyes. Yellow with a touch of red and brown.
apply with a rag to the rails. Dries in minutes.

3. Spray with Krylon Crystal Clear or Triple Thick. Both are
basically acrylic lacquer. Don't put too much on! If using
TT, it needs only 1 or 2 coats compared to 3 coats with CC.

4. optional: let dry, then lightly sand with 1000 grit.
Take a rag and some Novus2 and polish.


Hope this helps.

As with the metal lockdown and side rails  ^.^ The ops did this around 1960/61 once all the woodrail games were now being made as steel rail games.....bastards! Anyways PBR has single player rails available - they are US$32 each (from memory) but they don't make the multiplayer rails that were wider.

Also Daniel - did you know that the rails had cigarette holders on the rails? PBR sells reproduction of these also:

Gottlieb Reproduction Cigarette Holders #A3889+ US$6.27ea
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on May 09, 2009, 11:47:18 AM
Thanks Tony
                      Yes i have the cigarette holders from my machine and the rails were going to be re laquered not painted red like the tools in that photo lol
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: hamish_nz on May 20, 2009, 01:10:20 PM
Wow looking great
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on June 03, 2009, 09:54:27 PM
Well im slightly Nervous hopefully nothing to worry about but i paid for My lockdown bar and two days later the guys emails are bouncing back?  So fingers crossed for me guy !!!
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on June 03, 2009, 11:07:32 PM
Well im slightly Nervous hopefully nothing to worry about but i paid for My lockdown bar and two days later the guys email is no longer Valid (Emails bounce back)  So fingers crossed for me guy !!!

How long ago did you send payment?

The joys of pinball collecting - here is to the lockdown bar arriving very soon
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on June 09, 2009, 07:43:23 PM
 $#$ YEAH my lockbar arrived today   $#$    I sent him an email through the paypal email address and he got back to me that night not sure why they were beeing returned but he wondered why i never answered his questions.   But there are some pics

Now i really need to pull my finger out and get the cabinet respray done to finish this old girl off
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Extra Ball on June 09, 2009, 08:12:17 PM
that machine looks huge! Nice work on getting the lock-down bar.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on June 09, 2009, 08:15:42 PM
Same size as a normal pinball it has an old piece of playfield glass out of a newer pin
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Extra Ball on June 09, 2009, 08:17:59 PM
hmm looks longer in the photos. Bet its heavy though.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on June 09, 2009, 08:19:10 PM
Ill let you know how heavy it is once i get some legs for it but i think your right it will be heavy
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on June 09, 2009, 08:21:55 PM
hmm looks longer in the photos. Bet its heavy though.

The bodies are around the same weight, the heads (especially the 4 players) are real heavy but no different to a 4 player Gottlieb/Williams/Bally EM head from the 1970s.

Game is coming along real nicely Daniel....still if it was my game would think twice about respraying it.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on June 09, 2009, 08:26:26 PM
Yeah not going to be easy but it looks really shit as is
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ajlaird on June 09, 2009, 09:25:32 PM
The lockdown bar looks good, nice pickup there.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: goodolddays on June 09, 2009, 10:18:02 PM
Great news Daniel .. looking forward to pics of her when she's finished.

Cheers
Dave
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Strangeways on June 14, 2009, 11:35:47 PM

Good work Daniel - She is going to look great with a set of legs !
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on June 16, 2009, 04:51:45 PM
Well just got an email from Texas and the legs will be posted tomorrow so should have then in two weeks yeah $#$
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on June 24, 2009, 03:31:24 PM
Well the legs arrived today and im very happy with them.  They wont be going onto the game until the cabinet is resprayed incase they never come off.  Just a little incentive for me to pull my finger out i guess
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Extra Ball on June 24, 2009, 04:47:20 PM
There in great condition.
 #*#
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on June 24, 2009, 07:47:10 PM
Daniel,

Do you know what game they came off? Did he have the rest of the game?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on June 24, 2009, 07:49:10 PM
No im bot sure of the game but these legs were attached to a nice looking cabinet
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: MartyJ on June 24, 2009, 09:03:40 PM
Wow!

I've never seen wooden legs before!

Does the pin sit the same height?  Or is it more designed those less verticle like myself?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on June 24, 2009, 09:05:42 PM
I cant tell you Marty as the im not going to let myself put the legs on untill its resprayed to try get myself to do it asap
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on June 25, 2009, 07:58:16 AM
Wow!

I've never seen wooden legs before!

Does the pin sit the same height?  Or is it more designed those less verticle like myself?

All pinballs used timber for legs until mid 1958.

The game Daniel is rebuilding - the legs sit at a slight angle (around 15 degrees) and the pin will sit a bit higher than post 1980 games.

All single player games that used timber for the legs were straight like the legs on todays pinballs, it was only a few Gottlieb and Williams 1950s games that used legs like this that were on an angle
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Strangeways on June 25, 2009, 11:45:40 PM

It has all come together nicely, Daniel !

This poor game might have been parted out, but your perseverance and passion has really been highlighted with this restore. I hope that the respray goes to plan and the game will look unbelievable !

 $#$
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ktm450 on June 26, 2009, 11:24:04 AM

It has all come together nicely, Daniel !

This poor game might have been parted out, but your perseverance and passion has really been highlighted with this restore. I hope that the respray goes to plan and the game will look unbelievable !

 $#$

+1 mate
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on August 02, 2009, 09:16:48 PM
Well the sheds almost done and the marathon respray is priority one so i can get the old girl back on its legs.

Ive decided with the respray ill be using similar colors on the cabinet that are on the playfield and want some opinions Yes No??? !@#?

And the legs lockbar and Rails will all be varnished and left wood color not painted Red like the moron in the picture %.%

Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on August 02, 2009, 09:50:36 PM
Bit of love for these old girls at present mate  ^^^

What is the situation with the pix on the backglass?

Do you know where in Sydney the person with the other game is located?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 10, 2009, 03:59:15 PM
BUGGER CRAP POO  ^.^   I was all fired up to strip down the cabinet for the respray while we have this beautiful weather the plan was to leave it on the trolley and wheel it in and out as i work on it but it wont fit out the roller door with all the jukeboxes and pinballs in the way so ill have to re arrange the shed before i can start GRRRRRRRR
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on November 10, 2009, 04:07:34 PM
 @.@ @.@ @.@ @.@ @.@
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Post by: johnwartjr on November 10, 2009, 05:59:25 PM
Very nice work. Always neat to see an older game I've never seen before, wonder how many survivors there are out there!
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 10, 2009, 06:03:18 PM
Very nice work. Always neat to see an older game I've never seen before, wonder how many survivors there are out there!

I know of one more in australia but its been swapped into a newer cabinet !!@

@.@ @.@ @.@ @.@ @.@

I think i have it sorted tony im going to clean up Strikes and spares and push it into the lineup as it only needs playfield work to finish it $#$
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 11, 2009, 09:39:24 PM
Well im one step closer to starting the cabinet respray i can atleast get it out the door now.    I was spewing i was so pumped to start stripping it yesterday  !!!
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 20, 2009, 08:43:57 PM
Well i said i was going to wait till the Simpsons was gone but i ran out of patience so i started to strip Marathon ready to respray the cabinet hopefully start the actual paint removal on sunday as the wife will be at work from 4am til 8.30pm.  If only i could get her to take up a 3rd job i could retire and do up pinnies full time !*!


 Keep an eye out for photos
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 20, 2009, 09:50:59 PM
Well what was a complete working pinball is now an empty shell.

  I was a little nervous pulling apart a 50 year old wooden box wasnt sure what was going to happen......


  Everything came off without to much damage i even managed to get the wooden rails off in one piece (Well Mostly)

Depending on the weather i may start paint stripping tomorrow  @@*
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Strangeways on November 20, 2009, 10:30:31 PM

Looks like you have quite a job ahead of you, Daniel ! Just take your time and it will turn out very nice  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on November 20, 2009, 10:56:34 PM
Oh have fun my friend *)*

So what are your plans from here?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 21, 2009, 12:17:51 AM
Well ive stripped the first layer off the front Door and found the original Art so im going to trace that. And see if i can find whats left on the rest of the cabinet so i can atleast get a starting point.    I think im going to paint the cabinet the similar colors to the playfield as they look to be similar.     
   What do you think Tony?    Might the colors have been bright like the playfield?????
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on November 21, 2009, 12:30:30 AM
She is your game so you can paint it what ever colour you want.

Would try to keep the original colours and design though....just take your time!

Respraying a cabinet is a huge job and will take weeks and weeks!

Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 21, 2009, 12:37:13 AM
  I want to stay as original as possible but the photo you showed before is the only photo i can find so i really have no idea what original is the morons painted the woodrails red so who know what else they painted with there crayons lol.  Lets hope i can find some good original unfaded Artwork  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on November 21, 2009, 12:40:08 AM
Hey Daniel,

In the photos you have just listed - what are the 2 parts either side of the front door that is resting on the head?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: JD on November 21, 2009, 09:50:12 AM
Daniel, Haven't spotted this post before but absoluetly amazing. Well done! Looking forward to seeing how you do the cabinet repaint. 10/10 for patience.

J.D.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: MartyJ on November 21, 2009, 03:20:58 PM
Looking forward to the finished product Daniel...I'm sure your're hard at work prep'n the cabinet.!

Are you painting it in acrylic from a gun?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 21, 2009, 03:23:09 PM
Hey Daniel,

In the photos you have just listed - what are the 2 parts either side of the front door that is resting on the head?

The two bits you asked about tony screw inbetween the head and the body purely decoration
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 21, 2009, 03:28:35 PM
Looking forward to the finished product Daniel...I'm sure your're hard at work prep'n the cabinet.!

Are you painting it in acrylic from a gun?

Yeah mate the wife cracked the sads and told me to get out to the shed she doesnt want to see me all day.   (Im not sure if thats here form of punishment but a guilt trip only works if you have a consience !*!) So ive been stripping away.

  Im going to be spraying with acrylic the under coat and the base white the rest i will probably roll on with the stencil but i might spray the whole lot yet !@#
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 21, 2009, 03:31:15 PM
Well im happy to report that ive found most of the original art and the colors are bright. so ill be matching the colors to the ones ive found  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Strangeways on November 21, 2009, 11:46:00 PM

Great news, Daniel - makes the job a little bit easier !
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on November 22, 2009, 04:04:35 PM

Great news, Daniel - makes the job a little bit easier !


It makes the job a hundred times easier  *%*

There looks enought there to make stencils off

Now the fun really starts  :D
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 22, 2009, 04:15:44 PM
Well the art has been traced and the cabinet fully stripped im tracing the backbox art at the moment and should have it fully stripped in the next hour
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 22, 2009, 06:29:31 PM
Well im happy to report the cabinet has been stripped of non original paint.
 Tracings made then completely stripped $#$.

 I was very luck when i stripped the headbox the first side i did showed no sign of original paint ^&^  But luckily on the other side i found some of the art  $#$
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 22, 2009, 06:33:26 PM
Had to make a few repairs to the cabinet as most of the joins were either split or about to.    So i gently opened the joins and pumped in some woodglue then clamped and nailed it backtogether was looking like a terrible job but once i started squeezing it all pulled back into shape   phewwwwww
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 22, 2009, 06:36:36 PM
Now im at a standstill till the glue dries....       I might start filling a few of the dings and holes and get ready for primer $#$

Heres how its sitting now
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on November 22, 2009, 06:37:29 PM
Looking good mate.

Time for some JW  *%*
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 22, 2009, 06:39:02 PM
Yep spot on tony i have one in my hand as i type  **) **)
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: JD on November 22, 2009, 08:42:37 PM
Amazing stuff DD toys!

Looks brilliant!

What product did you use to do the tracing?

J.D.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 22, 2009, 09:21:29 PM
Very basic for the tracing JD just A3 tracing paper sticky taped together and a grey lead pencil ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: MartyJ on November 22, 2009, 09:23:59 PM
Looking good Daniel.  Cabinet looks nice and solid and a great base to start with.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: JD on November 22, 2009, 09:27:47 PM
Ok thanks

It is the next step I am watching for then...

J.D.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: d3vlin on November 22, 2009, 09:44:19 PM
looks like u got me in a picture hard at work as normal lol. hope the glue holds it all together for u and every thing works out. will pop over tomorrow great job #*# #*# #*#
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 23, 2009, 09:37:19 PM
Not much to report tonight grabbed my tin of primer down and only had a dribble left in the bottom GRRRR  oh well was enough to get one coat on and give me an idea what i was up against and reminded me my spray gun needed a good clean so i spent the arvo doing that.  Bring on tomorrow  Paint shop after work then look out
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on November 23, 2009, 09:43:16 PM
The last 3 resprays I have done - just 2 coats of primer - first one light and the second a bit heavier
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 24, 2009, 07:59:55 PM
Well i got the cabinet as good as i thought possible without completely bogging the sides up and gave it its first base coat i got excited and forgot to take photos in primer  %.%
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: MartyJ on November 24, 2009, 08:14:34 PM
Looks very nice Daniel.  Good even coat.  Great base to finish artwork off!
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on November 24, 2009, 10:01:05 PM
Real nice start there Daniel,

The way you are going you will be finished before you arrive here on Saturday  :lol
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on November 25, 2009, 01:56:58 PM
Great start Daniel.. I havent posted in this thread til now but i've been keeping a close eye on your progress on this one. cant wait to see how it turns out!!

lookn forward to more updates ... cheers.. Mitch
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Belac on November 25, 2009, 06:02:20 PM
Not sure if you have this already Daniel but I came across it this afternoon:

http://www.nypinball.com/showdetailbro.php?br=739_front_org.jpg



Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 25, 2009, 06:08:35 PM
Not sure if you have this already Daniel but I came across it this afternoon:

http://www.nypinball.com/showdetailbro.php?br=739_front_org.jpg





Thanks Caleb
                 Yes i had seen that its the only reference i have to the front of the machine ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 25, 2009, 06:22:55 PM
Well ive got the white section painted but ive had to walk away ^.^    Masked up the patern on the front of the cabinet and given it a light coat of paint and the bloody shit masking tape is bubbling and peeling so if i have to remask for the second coat im going to be majorly pissed off ^.^ ^.^ ^.^ ^.^ ^.^ ^.^ ^.^

Fingers crossed that its all fine
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: MartyJ on November 25, 2009, 06:28:06 PM
Are / were you planning to give it a light hit of clear in between each coat / layer?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 25, 2009, 07:59:22 PM
Lets just start by saying
 ^.^ ^.^ ^.^ AAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  ^.^ ^.^ ^.^


Paint has Bled but only under the skinnier tape the fatter one seems to have been fine....  Ill post pics after ive cleaned up neadless to say im finished for the night... !!!
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 25, 2009, 08:13:21 PM
Well from a distance it looks ok
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 25, 2009, 08:15:29 PM
BUT UP CLOSE ^&^ &^& !!! ^.^ $$(
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on November 25, 2009, 11:06:36 PM
Dan,

Hold off until you visit here Saturday arvo....with a cold JW in your hand I will explain (and show) the way around this (and also how to fix).

It's called the Milly's Method  &&

So chill mate - you can fix - it's all cool  ()
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on November 25, 2009, 11:11:44 PM
Dan,

Hold off until you visit here Saturday arvo....with a cold JW in your hand I will explain (and show) the way around this (and also how to fix).

It's called the Milly's Method  &&

So chill mate - you can fix - it's all cool  ()

Sound Good to me Tony  $&&
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 01, 2009, 07:03:10 PM
Well ive got a little more done since Rollerballs meet here it is all masked up with the big designs still needs the smaller ones along the top
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 01, 2009, 07:05:05 PM
Here it is with the masking removed  $#$.    using the Millsy Method has worked a treat
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: MartyJ on December 01, 2009, 07:12:10 PM
Looking really nice Daniel.

Interesting they didn't centre the coin door on the design...!  I guess they were pumping them out back then in the good old days!
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 01, 2009, 07:15:38 PM
I think they put the coin door off center to allow the extra room for the manual ball lifter
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on December 01, 2009, 07:23:28 PM
Looks excellent mate!

You should be very proud  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 01, 2009, 07:28:40 PM
Looks excellent mate!

You should be very proud  ^^^

Thanks Tony

Im Happy but not proud ill be proud once it backtogether and in the line up  #*#
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: JD on December 01, 2009, 07:47:25 PM
Looks Brilliant Daniel.

Well done!

j.D.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 01, 2009, 09:36:05 PM
Well this is where im leaving it for the night managed to get the annoying little trinagle bits done so im very happy.

  Ive also got the stencils cut out for the annoying circles lets just hope they work ok
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 01, 2009, 09:37:13 PM
Heres one with the half finished head attached
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: MartyJ on December 01, 2009, 09:37:31 PM
Daniel - its looking great and will turn out better than NIB.  Can't wait to see it when its finished.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: JD on December 01, 2009, 10:19:14 PM
Brilliant!

J.D.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 01, 2009, 10:35:15 PM
Daniel - its looking great and will turn out better than NIB.  Can't wait to see it when its finished.

Thanks Marty  Im looking forward to the end result. the biggest let down will be the wood rails that hold the glass i really think i will have to try and get some new ones made

Brilliant!

J.D.

Thanks JD glad you like it
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on December 01, 2009, 11:06:34 PM
WOW thats coming along VERY nicely Daniel ^^^ ^^^

Cant wait to see it all back together.. Well done #*# #*#
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Strangeways on December 01, 2009, 11:09:22 PM

Awesome !

That looks simply awesome - You should be proud

 $#$ $#$ $#$ $#$
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: millsy on December 01, 2009, 11:33:41 PM
excellant  ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ktm450 on December 02, 2009, 09:55:48 AM
Looks great mate  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 02, 2009, 05:53:20 PM
Well i hope it looks good because the clear coat is drying $#$    Will give it another coat of clear then leave it for the night.  And i have parts in the tumbler as we speak
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 02, 2009, 05:56:29 PM
Heres a before and after shot
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Post by: johnwartjr on December 02, 2009, 05:57:51 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: d3vlin on December 02, 2009, 06:14:36 PM
its looking good. i liked it before the circles went on but it looks great. back to the day it was made. #*# #*# #*#
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 02, 2009, 06:55:31 PM
Side on views
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 02, 2009, 09:54:31 PM
Well as usual i couldnt just walk away so i started buffing parts ready to re install
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 02, 2009, 09:56:20 PM
And a few more bits only sat in loosely for the photo will wait till the paints fully dry before tightening them up
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: goodolddays on December 03, 2009, 10:39:33 AM
Excellent work once again Daniel  ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
The cab looks Fantastic.
Yet another inspiration for me to pull my finger out and repaint my Lady Luck cab (how many more do I need  &^&)
I'm thoroughly enjoying watching the transformation of this old Girl.


Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on December 03, 2009, 11:43:02 AM
Dont ya just love it when all the new or cleaned up parts start going back onto a freshly painted cab *%* *%*

lookn GREAT ^^^ ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: JD on December 03, 2009, 09:45:21 PM
Bloody Brilliant!

j.D.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: deadlydave on December 03, 2009, 09:52:13 PM
Great work Daniel.  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 04, 2009, 07:46:48 PM
Well done a bit more today more polishing and more reassembly.  Heres a few before and after photos
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 04, 2009, 07:49:10 PM
And a few more pics
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ktm450 on December 05, 2009, 06:36:49 PM
Nice work mate  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 05, 2009, 10:10:44 PM
I didnt get much done today had one visitor after another i did get a few bits polished up but sadly i forgot to take a before shot of them
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 05, 2009, 10:12:40 PM
I also have a question for anyone who might know.

 With the coin door stripped im unsure if the base color should be white or yellow.   Im in two minds i think it should be white with the blue as white is the only color missing from the front of the cabinet?????

What do you all think?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Strangeways on December 05, 2009, 11:13:40 PM

Inspirational work Daniel. You should be proud.

 $#$ $#$
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 06, 2009, 03:36:26 PM
Wel i sanded back the backglass surround today. Remounted it filled nail holes and varnished it getting there
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Pinfan on December 06, 2009, 03:52:36 PM
Love your work Daniel !  ^^^  *%*
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 06, 2009, 06:52:27 PM
its coming along nicely i got  the coin door striped primed and painted and installed all the external hardware.  Im ordering new buttons but installed the originals just to finish it off  $#$
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: daics3522 on December 06, 2009, 07:59:34 PM
MAN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT IS NICE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ORSM WORK AGAIN.........
 $#$ $#$ $#$ $#$
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 06, 2009, 08:22:49 PM
Thanks for all the support guys.    Im finally at a stage where i can clean up the shed i could literally write my name in dust on everything   Even the pooltable cloth  @.@

Will try and get the woodrails reproduced if i cant ill sand back the originals and varnish them.  So it will sit like this for a while
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: JD on December 07, 2009, 10:40:17 PM
Absolutely amazing work Daniel.

work of art!!!

J.D. #*#   #*#
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Barren on December 07, 2009, 11:49:25 PM
Hey Daniel,

 Top work on this machine, love the colour scheme. Kind of gives you a new appreciation for wood rails.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on December 07, 2009, 11:53:18 PM
Kind of gives you a new appreciation for wood rails.

Amen Brother  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 08, 2009, 08:11:02 PM
Well its been a long journey but i think im at the end well for a while atleast what started out as an ebay project has been turned into another beauty if i do say so myself.    The wood rails are the originals that ive sanded and varnished but are not atached as i would like to still get some new ones made so until this happens Marathon is finished just need to bolt the legs on and squeeze it into the line up  $#$

Here are the actual ebay photos from Marks Auction im glad i seen the potential that so many others overlooked or i may have been outbid on this Gem
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on December 08, 2009, 10:11:53 PM
Just beautiful Daniel,

That game was a basket case and you have brought her back from the dead.

Those woodies are just so beautiful - so glad somebody that is younger has learnt to appreciate them as much as the old farts like Gav and myself  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Strangeways on December 08, 2009, 10:34:43 PM
Just beautiful Daniel,

That game was a basket case and you have brought her back from the dead.

Those woodies are just so beautiful - so glad somebody that is younger has learnt to appreciate them as much as the old farts like Gav and myself  ^^^

Agreed 100 % - I'm itching to restore a woody. Maybe sometime soon.

Hey Daniel - What's the story with the legs ? Didn't you source some from the USA ?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 08, 2009, 10:41:23 PM
Just beautiful Daniel,

That game was a basket case and you have brought her back from the dead.

Those woodies are just so beautiful - so glad somebody that is younger has learnt to appreciate them as much as the old farts like Gav and myself  ^^^

Agreed 100 % - I'm itching to restore a woody. Maybe sometime soon.

Hey Daniel - What's the story with the legs ? Didn't you source some from the USA ?

Yes Nino i did get legs from the US but i need to buy some bolts for them.   And i can tell you after spending that $500 on a few bits of wood i cant wait to see them on the old girl  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Strangeways on December 08, 2009, 10:42:33 PM
Just beautiful Daniel,

That game was a basket case and you have brought her back from the dead.

Those woodies are just so beautiful - so glad somebody that is younger has learnt to appreciate them as much as the old farts like Gav and myself  ^^^

Agreed 100 % - I'm itching to restore a woody. Maybe sometime soon.

Hey Daniel - What's the story with the legs ? Didn't you source some from the USA ?

Yes Nino i did get legs from the US but i need to buy some bolts for them.   And i can tell you after spending that $500 on a few bits of wood i cant wait to see them on the old girl  ^^^

Do you have pictures of what the bolts should look like ? I assume there are washers as well ?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on December 08, 2009, 10:43:10 PM
Daniel,

I'm pretty sure old head bolts from EMs and SS pins will do the trick for the legs....doubt you will be able to buy them here
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on December 08, 2009, 10:44:30 PM
Nino,

They are different again, they have rounded heads on them....the actual bolts will be really tough to find

Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 08, 2009, 10:50:16 PM
Can you post me a pic of what they look like tony?  Head bolts do fit but i didnt have enough new ones with washers ill check out the bolt store next chance i get  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Strangeways on December 12, 2009, 10:33:07 AM
Nino,

They are different again, they have rounded heads on them....the actual bolts will be really tough to find



Tony - They sound like they are the same as Bally Bingo legs ?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on December 12, 2009, 12:21:03 PM
Can you post me a pic of what they look like tony?  Head bolts do fit but i didnt have enough new ones with washers ill check out the bolt store next chance i get  ^^^

Yep, will do after picking up the Klondike this arvo  *%*
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 12, 2009, 04:53:09 PM
Thanks Tony.   Ive ordered a couple of set of the Ciggie holder aswell cant wait for the bits to arrrive so i can have a game
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on December 13, 2009, 08:55:43 AM
Can you post me a pic of what they look like tony?  Head bolts do fit but i didnt have enough new ones with washers ill check out the bolt store next chance i get  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 13, 2009, 09:37:51 AM
Thanks Tony  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Strangeways on December 13, 2009, 11:05:43 AM

Looks very much the same as a Bingo Bolt. I'll see what I have.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 16, 2009, 04:33:28 PM
 $#$  @@*  #*#  Well im very happy after a visit to the bolt shop to find they have nothing similar i decided to add 2 washers instead of one to give me the tension i was missing to use new pinball leg bolts.    Was a little nervous after bolting the legs on didnt know if the 50 year old legs were going to break and destroy all my hard work.   Luckily the held together..
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: goodolddays on December 16, 2009, 04:35:46 PM
Top Work Daniel .. she looks fantastic  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: JD on December 16, 2009, 11:57:06 PM
Great Job Daniel.

J.D.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: The pinballist formally known as Dean Morgan on December 17, 2009, 06:29:31 PM
Nice...real nice ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: illawarra_steelers on December 17, 2009, 06:43:35 PM
Oh she is sooooo beautiful....I'm in love with her  :lol

Something about these old girls - tip my hat to you young fella for taking this game on and bringing it back to the standard that you have.

Would love to know how you find the time.

Full marks Daniel!

Also - thanks for those parts mate - they arrived today!
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 17, 2009, 08:19:30 PM
Something about these old girls - tip my hat to you young fella for taking this game on and bringing it back to the standard that you have.

Would love to know how you find the time.


Well what you need to do tony is Quit your job and get a job working in a servo 6am till 2pm Monday to Friday then you have all afternoon and every weekend free to drink and fix pinballs  &&
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: JD on December 17, 2009, 08:33:00 PM
Something about these old girls - tip my hat to you young fella for taking this game on and bringing it back to the standard that you have.

Would love to know how you find the time.


Well what you need to do tony is Quit your job and get a job working in a servo 6am till 2pm Monday to Friday then you have all afternoon and every weekend free to drink and fix pinballs  &&

Sounds like you are onto something here Daniel!

J.D.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 23, 2009, 07:55:45 PM
Went out to the shed to do some work but it was o bloody hot.    Planned on doing the flipper kit but one of the Cranks is wrong for my game  ^.^  So i installed the new buttons and ciggie holders  $#$
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on December 27, 2009, 09:31:59 PM
Does anyone know if id use Side rail nails to hold the flipper button surounds onto this game????
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on June 16, 2010, 06:53:08 PM
Well i finally bought some side rail nails but they are too long and will go straight through the cabinet will have to hit the hardware and see what else i can use.     

  And i keep forgetting to post pictures of the original manual for this game Sorry to anyone who wanted to see it
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: goodolddays on June 16, 2010, 06:56:57 PM
Well i finally bought some side rail nails but they are too long and will go straight through the cabinet will have to hit the hardware and see what else i can use.     

 

Bugger
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: FirePower on June 16, 2010, 10:12:33 PM
Well i finally bought some side rail nails but they are too long and will go straight through the cabinet

If they have the correct head and look the part , why not just cut them down to length and use them anyway?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on June 16, 2010, 10:14:25 PM
I will do that if o cant find anything suitable the heads on the nails look larger than original any way  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on June 18, 2010, 04:05:56 PM
Well for anyone who was interested i remembered to take some photos of my original 1955 Schematic
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on June 18, 2010, 04:07:59 PM
I personally find it amazing that original paperwork can still be found for things like this over 50 years old and still in great condition.  My instuction manuals for anything i buy go straight in the bin with the box  *%*
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: markc on June 18, 2010, 04:39:34 PM


manual nearly cost u as much as the pin ...
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Strangeways on June 18, 2010, 07:28:30 PM

What an awesome piece of history. Well done mate, you have shown a lot of persistance and dedication to this machine. I HOPE you never have to sell it.
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: goodolddays on June 18, 2010, 07:31:39 PM
Excellent Daniel . Always great to have the original paperwork.

+1 to Nino's comments as well .. Super work you have done on this game .  ^^^
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on June 18, 2010, 07:51:41 PM
Thanks Guys this machine wont be going any where anytime soon (Fingers crossed) And its still a work in progress a few little bits to go until its 100%.   One day...

Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on June 18, 2010, 07:53:45 PM


manual nearly cost u as much as the pin ...

LOL  your probably right?  The paint for the cab and manual would have been more than the Machine
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: markc on July 04, 2010, 07:18:10 PM


manual nearly cost u as much as the pin ...

LOL  your probably right?  The paint for the cab and manual would have been more than the Machine

lol
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on April 07, 2011, 08:09:45 PM
I've finally got some stainless steel cut for inside the cabinet above the playfield originally had rusty old tin.  Since ive clamped and glued the cabinet tight again there won't be any room for the nail.   Was thinking about gluing them in place.  Any suggestions???

 Photos once there polished and in place
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: elkor-alish on April 10, 2011, 12:57:00 AM
Oh now I see were you got your avatar pic from.

I just read though this entire thread. Fantastic!

You really have to admire the amount of work that's gone into this machine.
These old machines look fantastic when they've been restored to this level.
I love the art on them, everything from the backglass to the playfield and the cabinet art.
I'd love to have a machine like this in my collection (if I had the space).
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on May 29, 2011, 09:55:13 PM
So any suggestions on how I should glue my stainless steel trims to the inside of the cabinet?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: Strangeways on May 30, 2011, 10:07:05 AM
So any suggestions on how I should glue my stainless steel trims to the inside of the cabinet?

Can you post pictures of the problem Daniel ?
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ktm450 on May 30, 2011, 01:59:33 PM
Silicone would hold the stainless in position you would just have to clean the stainless well and clamp it in position over night to ensure a good bond
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ddstoys on May 30, 2011, 02:31:19 PM
Silicone is there anything it can't do.    Thanks matt I'll give it a shot
Title: Re: 1955 GOTTLIEB MARATHON RESTORATION
Post by: ktm450 on May 31, 2011, 10:13:42 AM
It can hold thousand litre fish tanks together and make boobs bigger, gotta get the award for product of the millenium for sure  *)*