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Title: kiss pf progress
Post by: RaMpAgE on April 15, 2009, 03:21:12 PM
Well I'm nearing the end of touching up the pf.

This was really worn out and I was nearly going to get an overlay for it, but persisted on.

As you can see the dragons were giving me the shits so after the third time of removing and repainting this is it.

I need to get the ONU done which is missing from the bonus.  (don't know how this will go)

The centre of the playfield was the worst, pastics all reseated, I need to go around the arrows too.

The drop target area had bad wear with the opposite side the same.

clearcoat will be next.

go easy on me, its my first attempt %$%
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: ddstoys on April 15, 2009, 03:40:03 PM
Looking good to me mate keep up the good work @@*
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: Strangeways on April 15, 2009, 03:42:05 PM

Looks great to me !
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: illawarra_steelers on April 15, 2009, 04:08:15 PM
Gee there are some talented people on this forum.  ^^^

Awesome work, you should be very proud  *%*

Top shelf work there - do you have any 'before' shots?

Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: goodolddays on April 15, 2009, 04:23:09 PM
I will soon being doing my 1st attempt .. can only wish it turns out as well as yours ! and mine is simple compared to what you have done.
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: RaMpAgE on April 15, 2009, 04:36:21 PM
Gee there are some talented people on this forum.  ^^^

Awesome work, you should be very proud  *%*

Top shelf work there - do you have any 'before' shots?



http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=1177.0

above for the before shots, before the mylar came off, also the mylar around bumpers that was removed took some paint off around them.

Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: MartyJ on April 17, 2009, 06:44:25 PM
Looks really good.     #*#
 
How many coats and what sort of process are you planning with the clear?
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: The pinballist formally known as Dean Morgan on April 17, 2009, 06:58:11 PM
Looking good Rich #*#
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: RaMpAgE on April 17, 2009, 09:49:25 PM
Looks really good.     #*#
 
How many coats and what sort of process are you planning with the clear?

I'm going with the water based clear gloss - 2 very light coats with probably 5-7 wet coats depending on the look with a fine sanding between except last one.  Finishing with a novus2 then some maguires canuba (pure)

Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: RaMpAgE on April 17, 2009, 09:50:43 PM
Looking good Rich #*#

Thx mate, hows my baby going?
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: ddstoys on April 17, 2009, 09:56:30 PM
Looking forward to the results ive never used water based clears.
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: Strangeways on April 17, 2009, 11:30:10 PM

Yes - I will be following this process closely  ^^^
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: RaMpAgE on May 28, 2009, 11:28:17 AM
Have finished the machine finally with only a couple of issues remaining.

The upper/lower bumper globes - got the upper working the lower is still out, need to check more wiring and or drivers.

The globes in the K & I in bg (upper ones were not lighting) ended up being a bad 555 ic on the board, replaced all good now.



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Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: Rod71 on May 28, 2009, 11:46:00 AM
Very Cool!

You can improve the sound by adjusting the sustain pot on the sound board. Have a fiddle around with it while the game is in sound test mode.

Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: Strangeways on May 28, 2009, 12:31:37 PM

Do you have any pictures or a description of the CC application / process ?

Looks GREAT BTW  ^^^
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: RaMpAgE on May 28, 2009, 01:02:31 PM
Very Cool!

You can improve the sound by adjusting the sustain pot on the sound board. Have a fiddle around with it while the game is in sound test mode.



It's not changing the sound at all and I don't know what this should sound like, I might go and get some 10k pots and change them as they could be shot.
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: RaMpAgE on May 28, 2009, 01:08:05 PM

Do you have any pictures or a description of the CC application / process ?

Looks GREAT BTW  ^^^

Didn't get any progress shots, but had a problem with fish eyes early in the process and was getting annoyed with them.

sanded all off and started again, problem I think was spaying too thick, so I gave it light sprays only for all of the coats which ended up being 10-15 I think, with a light sand between them.

Finishing off with 1200 grit sand with novus 3, novus 2 then wax.

Don't think I'll clear coat anymore, its too much work, messy and time consuming, the gorgar I am onto now has just been waxed after some touchups after the mylar removal.
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: Strangeways on May 28, 2009, 02:04:01 PM

What brand of CC did you use ?
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: RaMpAgE on May 28, 2009, 02:23:40 PM

What brand of CC did you use ?

Cabot's

Crystall Clear

Did some reading/research on the aussie woodwork forum.
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: RaMpAgE on May 28, 2009, 02:26:12 PM
Also just changed the 2 10k pots and the LS93 ic on the sound board with no change in the sound, I still get that really high pitch chip sound which shouldn't be there aparently.  I did put a cap kit through it also.
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: Rod71 on May 28, 2009, 03:37:00 PM
Very Cool!

You can improve the sound by adjusting the sustain pot on the sound board. Have a fiddle around with it while the game is in sound test mode.



It's not changing the sound at all and I don't know what this should sound like, I might go and get some 10k pots and change them as they could be shot.

I'll upload a quick sample of mine shortly. Will give you something to work from.
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: Rod71 on May 28, 2009, 04:30:09 PM
Here ya go. Hope it helps  ^^^

Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: Rod71 on May 28, 2009, 04:38:11 PM
Dont have a manual handy. But check to see if there is an MPU dip setting for Chimes/Tones.

Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: RaMpAgE on May 28, 2009, 05:23:54 PM
something is up with the sound board, have to go through it all.
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: The pinballist formally known as Dean Morgan on May 28, 2009, 07:53:40 PM
Rich,

The CPU went OK then, as I couldnt test in a machine?

Can you post some footage of your game with sound, we will see if we can get you fixed.
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: RaMpAgE on May 28, 2009, 08:40:05 PM
Rich,

The CPU went OK then, as I couldnt test in a machine?

Can you post some footage of your game with sound, we will see if we can get you fixed.

I had to socket the rest of the IC's and replace the roms using 2732's as I was having intermitent boot problems but apart from that thanks for repairing the corosion etc.

Go back a page Dean and you'll see my footage there (on utube)

Could the sound prom on the pcb have a problem?
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: The pinballist formally known as Dean Morgan on May 28, 2009, 09:11:23 PM
Glad you replaced the Eprom as I said at the time it wasnt looking good.
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: ktm450 on May 29, 2009, 03:19:40 PM
Looks great mate  ^^^
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: RaMpAgE on May 29, 2009, 09:29:08 PM
I think it has the wrong prom on the sound board and I have no way of burning a new one with the programmer I have, is anyone able to do this for me?

It has 729-51 on the prom, it should be 729-18 - am I onto something here for the sound to be right?

A 74S188 will need to be programmed with the file attached here.

Thanks

Edit: I forgot to mension that the board is an

AS-2888-4 which I believe is for a

Paragon, Harlem Globetrotter, Dolly Parton

A kiss sound board needs to be an

AS-2888-3 which is for

Kiss & Star Trek

Well thats what the www told me anyway !@#



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Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: The pinballist formally known as Dean Morgan on May 30, 2009, 11:59:28 AM
Ritchie,

see this link http://www.pinball4you.ch/okaegi/rep_soundold.html

728 - 51: is for Paragon, Harlem Globetrotter, Dolly Parton

You need the correct eprom as you said

Cheers
Dean
Title: Re: kiss pf progress
Post by: RaMpAgE on May 30, 2009, 03:05:21 PM
Yeah thanks Dean thats where I got the info from and studying it carefully.

Do you have the required equipment to burn a new prom?