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Aussie Pinball Forums => General Discussion => General Pinball Discussion => Topic started by: DSB on February 12, 2016, 04:58:51 PM
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Hi all
I have a friend who knows nothing about pinball but is interested in an ACDC machine and he has asked me what one might cost.
As I have no idea, what do you guys think is a price range for an ACDC pro in reasonable working condition?
Thanks Dan
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Machine brand new with delivery & shaker motor fitted was just under 7 grand for those who paid up front in full to take advantage of the then AMD Super Container deal.
That price was based on $6100 to $6300 min price plus delivery plus shaker motor & fitting. This was when the Aussie dollar was at its BEST.
So if new was 7 grand, you have to go from there.
If the machine was still being made today it would be apx $8400 delivered with shaker etc.
I have a mint ACDC Pro with less than 300 games HUO.
I wouldn't sell it unless I got something between $4500 min to say $5250 because a lot of them have been sited and you really want a one owner game with low plays that is minty like new.
Most Stern machines do hold their resale values rather well.
People are paying similar $ for 1990,s DMD titles so I think the $4500 upwards figure wouldn't be hard to achieve for the best of the best ACDC Pro example.
See what others think. Good luck with your hunt.
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I'm surprised at two things, 1. The $4500 price, imo maybe a bit low and 2. CoT only racking up 300 games. I would have thought this calibre of game would hold a person's attention for many hours given the deep rule set. I'm not having a go, just genuinely surprised especially from a stern fan.
I'm guessing I would rack up that many games in a couple of weeks on any of my purchases just in trying to get the wizard modes an the novelty of a new game.
At $4500 and 300 games you'd be ripping yourself off, I think??
Dunno what Peter's clocked up but I'm betting heaps more
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Agreed Rob Brett's selling way to cheap. Two reasons low plays and ACDC ain't made anymore-it's amazing how hard they are to find considering how many where made just a great title. Mines played thousands of games and it still plays like I bought it out the box today.
Good luck with your search.
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I'd love to pick up one of these as well. If anyone has a good one let me know.
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I'm surprised at two things, 1. The $4500 price, imo maybe a bit low and 2. CoT only racking up 300 games. I would have thought this calibre of game would hold a person's attention for many hours given the deep rule set. I'm not having a go, just genuinely surprised especially from a stern fan.
I'm guessing I would rack up that many games in a couple of weeks on any of my purchases just in trying to get the wizard modes an the novelty of a new game.
At $4500 and 300 games you'd be ripping yourself off, I think??
Dunno what Peter's clocked up but I'm betting heaps more
I came in at the lowest amount because I thought the Stern badgers would give me hell for pricing it higher. Lol
I wouldn't sell mine anyway at any price because it's as close to BNIB as you are going to get, and I have the box. Lol
The reason it only has less than 300 games is that I have 55 pins in total and each gets a few games only every now & again. In fact, 200 of the 300 games on the ACDC Pro were put onto the game in one day by a dozen kids I let play it for a charity fundraiser. The other 100 games at 3 balls have been put on by me over about 4 years.
Most of my BNIB Stern games are all less than 100 or 200 plays.
It's like sleeping with the worlds best looking lady, you don't have to flog it day in & day out to realise the fun & quality. Lol
I have had a few people SMS me & ask me if I would sell my ACDC but the answer is its a forever keeper.
The translite has been signed by Steve Ritchie as well as the cabinet & spare translite and the game has every mod you could buy for it incl a $500 LCD topper. If I was ever broke & had to sell the game, it would be hard to sell it & would prob want $5500 or a bit more but would regret selling it.
Good luck with your search.
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So maybe anywhere from $4500 to $5500 for a basic un-modded pro machine?
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I'm surprised at two things, 1. The $4500 price, imo maybe a bit low and 2. CoT only racking up 300 games. I would have thought this calibre of game would hold a person's attention for many hours given the deep rule set. I'm not having a go, just genuinely surprised especially from a stern fan.
I'm guessing I would rack up that many games in a couple of weeks on any of my purchases just in trying to get the wizard modes an the novelty of a new game.
At $4500 and 300 games you'd be ripping yourself off, I think??
Dunno what Peter's clocked up but I'm betting heaps more
I came in at the lowest amount because I thought the Stern badgers would give me hell for pricing it higher. Lol
I wouldn't sell mine anyway at any price because it's as close to BNIB as you are going to get, and I have the box. Lol
The reason it only has less than 300 games is that I have 55 pins in total and each gets a few games only every now & again. In fact, 200 of the 300 games on the ACDC Pro were put onto the game in one day by a dozen kids I let play it for a charity fundraiser. The other 100 games at 3 balls have been put on by me over about 4 years.
Most of my BNIB Stern games are all less than 100 or 200 plays.
It's like sleeping with the worlds best looking lady, you don't have to flog it day in & day out to realise the fun & quality. Lol
I have had a few people SMS me & ask me if I would sell my ACDC but the answer is its a forever keeper.
The translite has been signed by Steve Ritchie as well as the cabinet & spare translite and the game has every mod you could buy for it incl a $500 LCD topper. If I was ever broke & had to sell the game, it would be hard to sell it & would prob want $5500 or a bit more but would regret selling it.
Good luck with your search.
Don't worry about the Stern haters mate there gunna hate no matter what lol just jealous I'd say haha. Your games worth over 6k easily closer to 7k :) low plays and HUO.
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I'm surprised at two things, 1. The $4500 price, imo maybe a bit low and 2. CoT only racking up 300 games. I would have thought this calibre of game would hold a person's attention for many hours given the deep rule set. I'm not having a go, just genuinely surprised especially from a stern fan.
I'm guessing I would rack up that many games in a couple of weeks on any of my purchases just in trying to get the wizard modes an the novelty of a new game.
At $4500 and 300 games you'd be ripping yourself off, I think??
Dunno what Peter's clocked up but I'm betting heaps more
I came in at the lowest amount because I thought the Stern badgers would give me hell for pricing it higher. Lol
I wouldn't sell mine anyway at any price because it's as close to BNIB as you are going to get, and I have the box. Lol
The reason it only has less than 300 games is that I have 55 pins in total and each gets a few games only every now & again. In fact, 200 of the 300 games on the ACDC Pro were put onto the game in one day by a dozen kids I let play it for a charity fundraiser. The other 100 games at 3 balls have been put on by me over about 4 years.
Most of my BNIB Stern games are all less than 100 or 200 plays.
It's like sleeping with the worlds best looking lady, you don't have to flog it day in & day out to realise the fun & quality. Lol
I have had a few people SMS me & ask me if I would sell my ACDC but the answer is its a forever keeper.
The translite has been signed by Steve Ritchie as well as the cabinet & spare translite and the game has every mod you could buy for it incl a $500 LCD topper. If I was ever broke & had to sell the game, it would be hard to sell it & would prob want $5500 or a bit more but would regret selling it.
Good luck with your search.
Don't worry about the Stern haters mate there gunna hate no matter what lol just jealous I'd say haha. Your games worth over 6k easily closer to 7k :) low plays and HUO.
Yeah, $4500 has been a figure thrown around on Aussie forums, but good luck to anyone getting an AC/DC Pro that cheap in any condition. If I was to ever sell mine with the leds, shaker and mods, I'd be asking Gorgar pricing. ;-)
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I'm surprised at two things, 1. The $4500 price, imo maybe a bit low and 2. CoT only racking up 300 games. I would have thought this calibre of game would hold a person's attention for many hours given the deep rule set. I'm not having a go, just genuinely surprised especially from a stern fan.
I'm guessing I would rack up that many games in a couple of weeks on any of my purchases just in trying to get the wizard modes an the novelty of a new game.
At $4500 and 300 games you'd be ripping yourself off, I think??
Dunno what Peter's clocked up but I'm betting heaps more
I came in at the lowest amount because I thought the Stern badgers would give me hell for pricing it higher. Lol
I wouldn't sell mine anyway at any price because it's as close to BNIB as you are going to get, and I have the box. Lol
The reason it only has less than 300 games is that I have 55 pins in total and each gets a few games only every now & again. In fact, 200 of the 300 games on the ACDC Pro were put onto the game in one day by a dozen kids I let play it for a charity fundraiser. The other 100 games at 3 balls have been put on by me over about 4 years.
Most of my BNIB Stern games are all less than 100 or 200 plays.
It's like sleeping with the worlds best looking lady, you don't have to flog it day in & day out to realise the fun & quality. Lol
I have had a few people SMS me & ask me if I would sell my ACDC but the answer is its a forever keeper.
The translite has been signed by Steve Ritchie as well as the cabinet & spare translite and the game has every mod you could buy for it incl a $500 LCD topper. If I was ever broke & had to sell the game, it would be hard to sell it & would prob want $5500 or a bit more but would regret selling it.
Good luck with your search.
Don't worry about the Stern haters mate there gunna hate no matter what lol just jealous I'd say haha. Your games worth over 6k easily closer to 7k :) low plays and HUO.
There aren't any Stern "haters" on this forum... I think youll find the same analytical level of criticism is given to all games whether they be from Stern.. Spooky... Heighway and if TAG ever eventuates then that too.
Given that the two of you ignore any member that says anything slightly critical of Stern and then unignore if they say something favourable, its fair to say you choose your own bubbles of reality to live in.
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Where is the 'like' button?
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There aren't any Stern "haters" on this forum... I think youll find the same analytical level of criticism is given to all games whether they be from Stern.. Spooky... Heighway and if TAG ever eventuates then that too.
Given that the two of you ignore any member that says anything slightly critical of Stern and then unignore if they say something favourable, its fair to say you choose your own bubbles of reality to live in.
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$4500 is way too low for a HUO 300 plays AC/DC Pro. I don't know the exact figure here, but if you are looking around - Try Joe at "Kids Just Wanna Have Fun". He has contacts all around Australia and would know the current market price very well. I have sent customers to Joe and all have ended up very happy (including me!).
I'm surprised at two things, 1. The $4500 price, imo maybe a bit low and 2. CoT only racking up 300 games. I would have thought this calibre of game would hold a person's attention for many hours given the deep rule set. I'm not having a go, just genuinely surprised especially from a stern fan.
I'm guessing I would rack up that many games in a couple of weeks on any of my purchases just in trying to get the wizard modes an the novelty of a new game.
At $4500 and 300 games you'd be ripping yourself off, I think??
Dunno what Peter's clocked up but I'm betting heaps more
I came in at the lowest amount because I thought the Stern badgers would give me hell for pricing it higher. Lol
I wouldn't sell mine anyway at any price because it's as close to BNIB as you are going to get, and I have the box. Lol
The reason it only has less than 300 games is that I have 55 pins in total and each gets a few games only every now & again. In fact, 200 of the 300 games on the ACDC Pro were put onto the game in one day by a dozen kids I let play it for a charity fundraiser. The other 100 games at 3 balls have been put on by me over about 4 years.
Most of my BNIB Stern games are all less than 100 or 200 plays.
It's like sleeping with the worlds best looking lady, you don't have to flog it day in & day out to realise the fun & quality. Lol
I have had a few people SMS me & ask me if I would sell my ACDC but the answer is its a forever keeper.
The translite has been signed by Steve Ritchie as well as the cabinet & spare translite and the game has every mod you could buy for it incl a $500 LCD topper. If I was ever broke & had to sell the game, it would be hard to sell it & would prob want $5500 or a bit more but would regret selling it.
Good luck with your search.
Don't worry about the Stern haters mate there gunna hate no matter what lol just jealous I'd say haha. Your games worth over 6k easily closer to 7k :) low plays and HUO.
There aren't any Stern "haters" on this forum... I think youll find the same analytical level of criticism is given to all games whether they be from Stern.. Spooky... Heighway and if TAG ever eventuates then that too.
Given that the two of you ignore any member that says anything slightly critical of Stern and then unignore if they say something favourable, its fair to say you choose your own bubbles of reality to live in.
I agree 100%.
I don't hink anyone deliberately HATES Stern. People find things they don't like and amplify it to bring their point across. I know I worked hard to push KISS Premiums / Pros and the criticism was code, price and clearcoat issues which are a discussion on all forums and amongst collectors. It IS frustrating and Stern themselves make it difficult to sell to newbies. No Stern bashing, just a "real world" observation based on real life experiences in the industry.
Best of luck with the search for the AC/DC.
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I'm surprised at two things, 1. The $4500 price, imo maybe a bit low and 2. CoT only racking up 300 games. I would have thought this calibre of game would hold a person's attention for many hours given the deep rule set. I'm not having a go, just genuinely surprised especially from a stern fan.
I'm guessing I would rack up that many games in a couple of weeks on any of my purchases just in trying to get the wizard modes an the novelty of a new game.
At $4500 and 300 games you'd be ripping yourself off, I think??
Dunno what Peter's clocked up but I'm betting heaps more
I came in at the lowest amount because I thought the Stern badgers would give me hell for pricing it higher. Lol
I wouldn't sell mine anyway at any price because it's as close to BNIB as you are going to get, and I have the box. Lol
The reason it only has less than 300 games is that I have 55 pins in total and each gets a few games only every now & again. In fact, 200 of the 300 games on the ACDC Pro were put onto the game in one day by a dozen kids I let play it for a charity fundraiser. The other 100 games at 3 balls have been put on by me over about 4 years.
Most of my BNIB Stern games are all less than 100 or 200 plays.
It's like sleeping with the worlds best looking lady, you don't have to flog it day in & day out to realise the fun & quality. Lol
I have had a few people SMS me & ask me if I would sell my ACDC but the answer is its a forever keeper.
The translite has been signed by Steve Ritchie as well as the cabinet & spare translite and the game has every mod you could buy for it incl a $500 LCD topper. If I was ever broke & had to sell the game, it would be hard to sell it & would prob want $5500 or a bit more but would regret selling it.
Good luck with your search.
Don't worry about the Stern haters mate there gunna hate no matter what lol just jealous I'd say haha. Your games worth over 6k easily closer to 7k :) low plays and HUO.
Yeah, $4500 has been a figure thrown around on Aussie forums, but good luck to anyone getting an AC/DC Pro that cheap in any condition. If I was to ever sell mine with the leds, shaker and mods, I'd be asking Gorgar pricing. ;-)
Yeah don't get rid of yours Adam it's to nice :) by the way is my highest score still on it lol
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$4500 is way too low for a HUO 300 plays AC/DC Pro. I don't know the exact figure here, but if you are looking around - Try Joe at "Kids Just Wanna Have Fun". He has contacts all around Australia and would know the current market price very well. I have sent customers to Joe and all have ended up very happy (including me!).
Thanks for the thoughts guys. At least it gives me a ball park to let my mate know. Thanks Nino, I will put the above in my favourites for me in future!
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I'm surprised at two things, 1. The $4500 price, imo maybe a bit low and 2. CoT only racking up 300 games. I would have thought this calibre of game would hold a person's attention for many hours given the deep rule set. I'm not having a go, just genuinely surprised especially from a stern fan.
I'm guessing I would rack up that many games in a couple of weeks on any of my purchases just in trying to get the wizard modes an the novelty of a new game.
At $4500 and 300 games you'd be ripping yourself off, I think??
Dunno what Peter's clocked up but I'm betting heaps more
I came in at the lowest amount because I thought the Stern badgers would give me hell for pricing it higher. Lol
I wouldn't sell mine anyway at any price because it's as close to BNIB as you are going to get, and I have the box. Lol
The reason it only has less than 300 games is that I have 55 pins in total and each gets a few games only every now & again. In fact, 200 of the 300 games on the ACDC Pro were put onto the game in one day by a dozen kids I let play it for a charity fundraiser. The other 100 games at 3 balls have been put on by me over about 4 years.
Most of my BNIB Stern games are all less than 100 or 200 plays.
It's like sleeping with the worlds best looking lady, you don't have to flog it day in & day out to realise the fun & quality. Lol
I have had a few people SMS me & ask me if I would sell my ACDC but the answer is its a forever keeper.
The translite has been signed by Steve Ritchie as well as the cabinet & spare translite and the game has every mod you could buy for it incl a $500 LCD topper. If I was ever broke & had to sell the game, it would be hard to sell it & would prob want $5500 or a bit more but would regret selling it.
Good luck with your search.
Don't worry about the Stern haters mate there gunna hate no matter what lol just jealous I'd say haha. Your games worth over 6k easily closer to 7k :) low plays and HUO.
Yeah, $4500 has been a figure thrown around on Aussie forums, but good luck to anyone getting an AC/DC Pro that cheap in any condition. If I was to ever sell mine with the leds, shaker and mods, I'd be asking Gorgar pricing. ;-)
Yeah don't get rid of yours Adam it's to nice :) by the way is my highest score still on it lol
Nah, it got wiped by "accident" when I did the Iron Man 2 mod. Now has Iron Man by Black Sabbath on it and Shoot to Thrill for something different.
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All of the long term collectors remember the original Aus RRP and backlash when it became apparent the Pro was missing a key playfield component from the Premium/LE versions.
You'll have to hook a new suckerfish (who isn't aware that Prem/LE's exist) to sell above that price.
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I'm surprised at two things, 1. The $4500 price, imo maybe a bit low and 2. CoT only racking up 300 games. I would have thought this calibre of game would hold a person's attention for many hours given the deep rule set. I'm not having a go, just genuinely surprised especially from a stern fan.
I'm guessing I would rack up that many games in a couple of weeks on any of my purchases just in trying to get the wizard modes an the novelty of a new game.
At $4500 and 300 games you'd be ripping yourself off, I think??
Dunno what Peter's clocked up but I'm betting heaps more
I came in at the lowest amount because I thought the Stern badgers would give me hell for pricing it higher. Lol
I wouldn't sell mine anyway at any price because it's as close to BNIB as you are going to get, and I have the box. Lol
The reason it only has less than 300 games is that I have 55 pins in total and each gets a few games only every now & again. In fact, 200 of the 300 games on the ACDC Pro were put onto the game in one day by a dozen kids I let play it for a charity fundraiser. The other 100 games at 3 balls have been put on by me over about 4 years.
Most of my BNIB Stern games are all less than 100 or 200 plays.
It's like sleeping with the worlds best looking lady, you don't have to flog it day in & day out to realise the fun & quality. Lol
I have had a few people SMS me & ask me if I would sell my ACDC but the answer is its a forever keeper.
The translite has been signed by Steve Ritchie as well as the cabinet & spare translite and the game has every mod you could buy for it incl a $500 LCD topper. If I was ever broke & had to sell the game, it would be hard to sell it & would prob want $5500 or a bit more but would regret selling it.
Good luck with your search.
Don't worry about the Stern haters mate there gunna hate no matter what lol just jealous I'd say haha. Your games worth over 6k easily closer to 7k :) low plays and HUO.
Yeah, $4500 has been a figure thrown around on Aussie forums, but good luck to anyone getting an AC/DC Pro that cheap in any condition. If I was to ever sell mine with the leds, shaker and mods, I'd be asking Gorgar pricing. ;-)
Yeah don't get rid of yours Adam it's to nice :) by the way is my highest score still on it lol
Nah, it got wiped by "accident" when I did the Iron Man 2 mod. Now has Iron Man by Black Sabbath on it and Shoot to Thrill for something different.
No worries :) next meet I'll have a go again and try for a highest score again lol
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$5k tops for a stock standard.
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Is that price HUO low plays or sited etc etc etc.
shaker or no shaker.
The Pro wasn't missing anything.
The Prem & LE had the Devils shape under playfield & different artwork but people paid apx 5 grand more for a LE & resale prices went well past original listed retail.
Securing a HUO LE will cost you a kidney if you can find someone willing to sell.
I think $4500 gets u a reasonable sited game in good condition as a starting price, with or without shaker would be hard to say.
Either way, anyone looking, don't give up & post a wanted add on the forums & ebay & gumtree etc cause karma always takes cares of those full of positivity.
There are no Stern bashers on here realistically, just those passionate and those not as passionate.
It's just like barracking for your footy team . It's all in fun with tounge in cheek.
No one is totally set on everything. Opinions ebb & flow which is normal & healthy.
Anyone know of any recent Pro or Prem or LE ACDC sales of late anywhere & condition.
Might help those looking to buy one !
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Is that price HUO low plays or sited etc etc etc.
shaker or no shaker.
The Pro wasn't missing anything.
The Prem & LE had the Devils shape under playfield & different artwork but people paid apx 5 grand more for a LE & resale prices went well past original listed retail.
Securing a HUO LE will cost you a kidney if you can find someone willing to sell.
I think $4500 gets u a reasonable sited game in good condition as a starting price, with or without shaker would be hard to say.
Either way, anyone looking, don't give up & post a wanted add on the forums & ebay & gumtree etc cause karma always takes cares of those full of positivity.
There are no Stern bashers on here realistically, just those passionate and those not as passionate.
It's just like barracking for your footy team . It's all in fun with tounge in cheek.
No one is totally set on everything. Opinions ebb & flow which is normal & healthy.
Anyone know of any recent Pro or Prem or LE ACDC sales of late anywhere & condition.
Might help those looking to buy one !
A friend of mine just sold an LE HUO for 11k stock standard-as I said earlier HUO pro 6.5k if you can find one.
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I sold a premium a month or so back for $6500. 220 games or so, still had the 1st code release
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I sold a premium a month or so back for $6500. 220 games or so, still had the 1st code release
Gee I know a few peolpe in tears now to cheap *%* Why no code update lol
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It was what i bought it for with a couple of other machines, so shared the good deals! The previous owner knew very little about them, hence no code update
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+1 I actually dislike this game but know its probably because I don't understand it. So many people cannot be wrong. I'm sure I'd love it once played enough. I hated TZ prior to purchase.......dunno why I bought it but am glad I did. ^^^
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Love this game. My first new in box and thought it was actually quite ground-breaking with 12 full music tracks to choose from. A first in pinball. I still haven't worked out the rules, but it always keeps me coming back for more.
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I still haven't worked out the rules
I hear you! Watched a few tutorials online and think I've got it. Head to time Zone for a game only to completely forget everything once I hit start.
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Acdc has a brilliant ruleset. I was the same in that i didn't like it but bought an ltbr le and once learned, i absolutely love it. One of my most played machines.
Wizard mode is achievable on a 3 ball game but you have to have a cracker of a game and a bit of luck! I have Encore mode lit....then choked on hitting the shot.
That's actually what i love about pinball - you know you can get there but sometimes the randomness beats you!
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Acdc has a brilliant ruleset. I was the same in that i didn't like it but bought an ltbr le and once learned, i absolutely love it. One of my most played machines.
Wizard mode is achievable on a 3 ball game but you have to have a cracker of a game and a bit of luck! I have Encore mode lit....then choked on hitting the shot.
That's actually what i love about pinball - you know you can get there but sometimes the randomness beats you!
and the pressure
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Encore wizard mode is awesome :)
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That Premium price was a great deal.
The great deals are around if u speak & contact enough people.
Great to hear such good feedback about a game not mentioned much on the forum these days.
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Pro models were $5950 originally and the LE $9250. Haven't seen any pro models for sale in a while but would expect them to start at 5k for a decent one.
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I would pay no more than 5k for the pro.
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$5950 excluded delivery & shaker and under playfield slide rails plus any custom mods.
Also, if u didn't pay the entire $5950 upfront, as opposed to only paying a small deposit the machine was $6300 min plus delivery & so on.
The special lowest discounted price worked for those who paid in full by cash or bank transfer and handed over the lot.
If Stern does a ACDC Pro Vault edition which is being talked about its going to be $8150 plus shaker n delivery & so on cause of the weak Aussie dollar.
So one would have to price a minty machine around 6 ish to feel satisfied.
I have every custom add on to my machine I could buy incl a expensive topper so I have probably $1500 in it more than the original base $5950 ish undelivered price.
They seem few & far between now to buy in HUO mint condition. People are really hanging on to them.
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Pro models were $5950 originally and the LE $9250. Haven't seen any pro models for sale in a while but would expect them to start at 5k for a decent one.
I would pay no more than 5k for the pro.
That sounds realistic given the reputation it has.
Tacky mods and overpriced toppers have their place for those who think that somehow adds intrinsic value to a machine, but at the end of the day it is missing an interactive mini playfield (amongst other items) from Ritchie's original intended design.
That was how Stern justified the sub 6k sticker pricing in the first place for it - by cutting back on the BOM.
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If u actually ring & speak to Steve Ritchie about ACDC like I have, he will tell you he designed two completely different machines, one being a Pro and the next being the LE playfield layout etc.
John Borg also has told me they design the Pro machine first, get that perfect and then design a LE and its differences on top. This constant claim from Stern bashers that the LE is designed first then things are taken away eyc, that claim is complete BS and totally uneducated and completely false compared to what the actual game designers will tell you face to face or over the phone.
Of course, when a person has the opportunity to buy a machine, and if they like custom purchased Mods and toppers etc, then those items will add value if the buyer likes those things on their machines.
Since the pinball Mods business is booming, I would argue that expensive quality Mods would add value to a machine.
I also was of the impression that ACDC was a massive success worldwide and a hit for Steve Ritchie & Stern.
The vast majority of people I have heard from have said the game had a excellent reputation, certainly not the opposite. All ACDC models have sold massive numbers and are appreciated by their owners.
The Pro machine is great. Of the 30 people I know who bought a Pro, not one of them has sold their machines on.
That has to mean something.
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Straight from the horse's mouth Steve Ritchie as of 3 days ago via a live Q and A.
https://www.facebook.com/sternpinball/videos/10153936706249244/
Question posed by J Dankberg via Live Feed from listener: "So here's a great question, Pro versus Premium/LE, which is designed first and do you make a Pro first (Steve interrupts question with NO) or do you make a complete machine with Premium/LE and then remove items?"
Answer from Steve Ritchie: "I start with the LE. I start with everything. On games like GoT for example we are talking a HUGE (his emphasis) difference between the Pro and the LE. It's actually insane. If you want to spend the money on an LE/Premium you are going to get that maximum play, maximum everything."
Then added as an afterthought because he realises he has indirectly crapped on his employer's product.
"But if you want a good, fun game the Pro is there too." Said whilst rolling his eyes and looking off camera.
You only need to read between the lines to see even the designer himself is not happy with the BOM cutbacks which is causing not only damage to the hobby itself, but is shortchanging the pinball playing public.
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From a design/manufacturing standpoint it simply makes no economic sense to design a machine to prototype with only 70% of the parts implemented and then attempt to shoehorn in the remaining 30% of the intended build to another model based on the existing design.
Logic dictates that it is far more practical to have the machine built to 100% of the planned specifications first with finalised build costings attached to each individual assembly and then simply remove certain assemblies/parts to cut back on the BOM in order to bring it in line with the lower price point model.
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I think the biggest problem for my mate is the fact that they just don't come up for sale often so in the end it may just be a pipe dream for him.
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I think the biggest problem for my mate is the fact that they just don't come up for sale often so in the end it may just be a pipe dream for him.
Yeah there certainly hard to find considering how many came here , just such a great well coded game :) Sterns best by a mile-it would be in the top 5 of all time great games :) I have a LE and it ain't going anywhere lol but a mate has a pro and it's also an awesome game so dam fast and hectic. Good luck searching.
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I haven't heard or read the later SR info but it sounds completely different to what he told me when ACDC was first made. I can only go on what he told me directly. Maybe things are changed, maybe they haven't.
It seems different designers have different approaches and different answers over different periods.
I still say the Pro model is a fast playing best bang for your buck machine with any Stern title.
Play the Pro, play the LE, the Pro plays faster almost every model.
Buy what you like but as long as u buy that's what matters.