Post by: pinoffski on December 21, 2017, 10:01:21 PM
With 7050 units made it should of not been a hard search.
I was wrong as this did not come here to Australia.
This is a massive project
Post by: pinoffski on December 21, 2017, 10:19:46 PM
There as no cabinet stencils for this pin
Post by: pinoffski on December 22, 2017, 04:55:54 PM
plastics are good .
Post by: pinoffski on December 22, 2017, 05:01:10 PM
Bagged and tagged most bits.
Post by: pinoffski on December 22, 2017, 06:14:31 PM
took the chance to remove the Mylar.
Post by: Strangeways on December 22, 2017, 10:17:49 PM
The key to this project is to not become overwhelmed. Work on different stages over time. Even if it become difficult, walk away and return to the game another day. The end product is a rare and interesting title.
Post by: goodolddays on December 23, 2017, 11:59:19 AM
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on December 23, 2017, 01:11:32 PM
:)
Post by: pinoffski on December 23, 2017, 07:39:12 PM
An interesting project that will keep you busy for quite some time. A rare title, which I'm lucky enough to have in my collection. If you need photos to create stencils, just let me know. My cabinet is very good, just needs a new backglass.
The key to this project is to not become overwhelmed. Work on different stages over time. Even if it become difficult, walk away and return to the game another day. The end product is a rare and interesting title.
Thank Mate ,
I do chop and change from project to project and unfortunately i have projects that are in pieces ..
But i have sourced the parts that are needed so there is no real rush to complete them atm.
I really want to get this one done as it is different need to get it finished before April as i need to have it in the line up for the comp..
everyone has played a Gorgar , Flash and Firepower .
I have removed paint from blackout cabinet..
I think i got lucky as artwork has good colour
Post by: pinoffski on December 23, 2017, 07:57:06 PM
Looks like a nice playfield Dave . Will watch your progress . Have fun with the resto
Thanks Dave ,
I wasn't going to do a restore thread ..
Prefer to do thing's in the background but you must of changed my mind after seeing your thread ! @.@
Post by: pinoffski on December 23, 2017, 08:28:00 PM
I had a blackout pinball lined up and unfortunately it was withdrawn from sale .
As i am on the road for most of the year i allways ask everyone about pinball's.
For a year or more i have been looking for one .
My work mates and i dropped in to a pinball dealer to have a look at some games
and i asked the owner have you got a blackout pinball and he said yes i was shocked ..
He gave me a price and i said i would think about it.
So the next week i was down in the area i had a better look at it and after a lot of negotiation we worked out a price .
I was going to buy it as i had already purchased a backglass a i thought the other one was coming.
Post by: pinoffski on December 23, 2017, 08:36:10 PM
Will scan Manuel if you haven't got one Nino @Strangeways
Post by: pinoffski on December 27, 2017, 07:10:15 PM
Finally removed the glue from the playfield .
Was just using Isocol and flour and it was taking hours
I got some De-Solv-it and with flour and using a old credit card the glue was easier removed
Post by: pinoffski on December 27, 2017, 07:15:25 PM
They have cupping and will have to flatten them .
I am unsure on how to do this ?
Post by: Strangeways on December 27, 2017, 08:43:42 PM
An interesting project that will keep you busy for quite some time. A rare title, which I'm lucky enough to have in my collection. If you need photos to create stencils, just let me know. My cabinet is very good, just needs a new backglass.
The key to this project is to not become overwhelmed. Work on different stages over time. Even if it become difficult, walk away and return to the game another day. The end product is a rare and interesting title.
Thank Mate ,
I do chop and change from project to project and unfortunately i have projects that are in pieces ..
But i have sourced the parts that are needed so there is no real rush to complete them atm.
I really want to get this one done as it is different need to get it finished before April as i need to have it in the line up for the comp..
everyone has played a Gorgar , Flash and Firepower .
I have removed paint from blackout cabinet..
I think i got lucky as artwork has good colour
You could just wax and buff the cabinet and it will look great !
Post by: Strangeways on December 27, 2017, 08:54:08 PM
After removing the mylar i noticed that most of the inserts were loose
They have cupping and will have to flatten them .
I am unsure on how to do this ?
Remove the cupped insert. Be careful if there is art on the insert, as this may cause an issue. Use a block of wood roughly the size of a sanding block, and cut the desired wet sandpaper to fit and overlap the wood. place in the vice. Spray water or windex on the sandpaper. Face down, start to sand the insert, going in circles. Observe the insert. If it has artwork starting to sand off - STOP. If not, keep going. continually check that the insert is starting to level. Change to a higher grit. Start at 400, 600, 800 (to flatten) then 1000, 1500 and finally 2000. Polish with novus 2.
Repeat for all the inserts.
If art is being sanded off - Plan B - Find an insert decal kit.
The other option is to buy all new inserts and decals.
Post by: pinoffski on January 07, 2018, 11:56:55 PM
Have removed all inserts now
also touched up some of the playflield
Just the Black only
I will say i am getting a bit overwhelmed with all the extra work
as 80 percent of the inserts were loose after i removed the Mylar
as there is no replacement for this playfield and i just don't want to destroy it ...
with a noob mistakes
Post by: Strangeways on January 08, 2018, 10:13:34 AM
Post by: goodolddays on January 09, 2018, 07:09:26 PM
Just a small update
Have removed all inserts now
also touched up some of the playflield
Just the Black only
I will say i am getting a bit overwhelmed with all the extra work
as 80 percent of the inserts were loose after i removed the Mylar
as there is no replacement for this playfield and i just don't want to destroy it ...
with a noob mistakes
Keep up the great work Dave . I think Nino is spot on with his advice too :)
I made a noob mistake with my Space Odyssey playfield swap which I must mention in that thread when I update it
Post by: pinoffski on January 10, 2018, 08:07:28 PM
The advice and support is gold..
Removed the bumpers and the plastic that surrounded them with Loctite freeze spray only had minor paint removed
Masked playfield and put in ear plugs in the light globe inserts
for a Refresh to the white that is under the plastics .
have not used the air brush in at least 2 years ..
it is not perfect but i a basically happy with the result
Wife thought the white did not match but after i showed her that that bumpers still have the the old lacquer / coating over it
Post by: goodolddays on January 10, 2018, 09:04:30 PM
I will soon be getting to try out some airbrushing myself when I attempt to spray the red back into my Space Odyssey glass.
Have only briefly mucked around with it once before
Post by: Strangeways on January 12, 2018, 10:24:03 AM
Thanks Dave & Nino
The advice and support is gold..
Removed the bumpers and the plastic that surrounded them with Loctite freeze spray only had minor paint removed
Masked playfield and put in ear plugs in the light globe inserts
for a Refresh to the white that is under the plastics .
have not used the air brush in at least 2 years ..
it is not perfect but i a basically happy with the result
Wife thought the white did not match but after i showed her that that bumpers still have the the old lacquer / coating over it
Amazing what a difference to the overall playfield when you refresh the white areas.
Post by: pinoffski on January 21, 2018, 08:17:27 PM
I tried something different as i have seen that people use superglue to level out the insert'
I used KBS ClearCoat with some success .
Was done in two batches the first lot i had some surface bubbles .
And the second batch i had the aircon on at 24 deg and had no surface bubbles .
have sanded some that have not worked out .
Post by: pinoffski on February 02, 2018, 07:48:32 PM
Sent the boards to Ken and they arrived back early in the week so i had a present to open today
very happy #*#
Post by: Strangeways on February 03, 2018, 01:18:47 PM
Post by: pinoffski on February 16, 2018, 08:58:14 PM
back on the road for work....
unfortunately i broke a insert so i then ordered some but i am not happy with the colour
so i removed one from a flash playfield this afternoon ..
it is a better match
the one on the right is the original and the one on the left is the one from Flash
and then there is the other @.@
Post by: goodolddays on February 17, 2018, 02:15:10 PM
Post by: Strangeways on February 21, 2018, 09:42:13 PM
Remember that the inserts in your game have been subjected to uniform years of a hot and bright #44lamp behind it. That new insert will more than likely be an exact colour matched with a NOS playfield.
Post by: pinoffski on June 02, 2018, 06:05:23 PM
will update the progress on how i finished this pinball..
Post by: pinoffski on June 02, 2018, 06:25:46 PM
I was using a steel ruler to level out the inserts and i was not should if they were level with the playfield
so i cut a peice of perpex ..
Post by: pinoffski on June 02, 2018, 06:28:32 PM
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Post by: ddstoys on June 12, 2018, 07:41:41 AM
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Post by: pinnies4me on June 13, 2018, 07:53:13 AM
Post by: pinoffski on June 16, 2018, 07:16:52 PM
Was very ambitious hoping in would be playable
It started up ...
Post by: pinoffski on June 16, 2018, 08:52:46 PM
He got it running someone had put a new coil in and the diode was the wrong way sorted out GI lights must of had a bad globe as we replace them one by one and the fuse didn't blow..
Post by: pinoffski on June 16, 2018, 08:59:10 PM
and removed steel plate was lucky there was no damage under it.
Post by: pinoffski on June 16, 2018, 09:07:43 PM
Post by: Strangeways on June 20, 2018, 10:39:36 AM
Post by: pinoffski on June 22, 2018, 08:43:04 PM
Nice ! How does it play ? Is it as good as Firepower and other games ?Blackout is a very simple game. Shoot the targets to complete red, green and yellow and then shot for the hole to achieve Blackout. The left spinner shot is a cool shot through both spinners to complete the Orbit.
Compared to Firepower, Blackout is more fun and good beginner game but is not as challenging for an experienced player it is still cool to play due to the awesome sounds. Firepower will kick your ass and is a lot more of a challenge and is ultimately better as it has multi ball.
I have Blackout on the hardest settings with no extra ball.
Playing on 3 Balls only.
Would be more of a challenge if you could change settings so you would have to shoot down red, green and yellow targets all in one ball to achieve blackout as it keeps the memory of the targets that are completed for the next ball.
Post by: Crashramp on July 04, 2018, 06:15:12 PM
^^^
Post by: pinball god on July 24, 2018, 09:10:50 PM
Post by: pinoffski on July 27, 2018, 11:01:00 PM
Very very nice, great stuff.
^^^
Great resto thread and happy to see you finally got to the finish line. Well done mate
Thanks
as with pinballs you are allways working on them
Now just fine tuning it to play nice set of drop targets needs work and 1 pop bumper is slow
still need to paint spinners and fit speaker ...
Post by: Inkochnito on August 30, 2018, 05:01:46 AM
Don't forget to add fuses to the bridge rectifiers or put in one of my Bridge Boards.
Nino has them for you if you want it.
http://www.rtbb.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=3890
It would be a shame to see your work go up in flames if things go bad in the rectifiers.
More info is on my website www.inkochnito.nl (click on the Bridge Board image).
Post by: Inkochnito on August 30, 2018, 05:09:25 AM
If you look closely at the wires, you will see there are four wires comming together at the fuse.
Two of them goto the backbox.
These can be split into 2 strings of 19 and 20 lamps.
That way a 5A fuse for each will suffice.
The other two are for the playfield string and the cabinet (coin door).
The playfield can't be split and will have to be fused with 10A.
The coin door only has 2 or 3 lamps, so an 1A or 2A fuse will do.
Post by: Inkochnito on August 30, 2018, 05:11:10 AM
https://nvram.weebly.com/repair--conversion-kits.html
Post by: pinoffski on September 01, 2018, 07:20:42 PM
Not the best video quality ..
but i still thought i would share
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Post by: Retropin on April 09, 2019, 07:58:18 PM
Just a small update ..
Finally removed the glue from the playfield .
Was just using Isocol and flour and it was taking hours
I got some De-Solv-it and with flour and using a old credit card the glue was easier removed
For future reference. White Spirit ( Available at Bunnings) which is a bit like Turps in that you can use it to mix with or clean enamel paint, turns the glue to a loose liquid like state and it can be easily wiped off with a rag. White Spirit will not affect cured paint.. same as turps, so its perfectly safe to use. You can also remove all the mylar if you are patient enough. Ive used it on the most fragile of playfields and all the artwork has remained intact..
Gav..
Post by: Retropin on April 09, 2019, 08:02:00 PM