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Title: How do you LED?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on September 01, 2019, 04:25:39 PM
 
How do you LED?


OK, so I finally found LEDs that I like the look of
being brighter than incandescence I can now see the ball


So I now have to LED out my games


Do you carefully color coordinate your GI, or do you jus use white LEDs everywhere?
Inserts, do you use the same color LED as the insert, or just use white LEDs?
Title: Re: How do you LED?
Post by: ktm450 on September 01, 2019, 06:12:56 PM
Don’t do it mate, original all the way  *%*
Title: Re: How do you LED?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on September 01, 2019, 06:29:54 PM
Don’t do it mate, original all the way  *%*

guess I know where to send all my old bulbs ;)
Title: Re: How do you LED?
Post by: oldskool1969 on September 01, 2019, 07:38:14 PM
LED all the way baby ( done tastefully of course )
Warm White frosted for GI and colour those inserts for the POP that only LEDs can do.
Title: Re: How do you LED?
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on September 02, 2019, 09:12:46 AM
I don't mind the warm white LEDs, and have used them on a few machines now, (not on any EMs though).
I HATE the coloured ones you see every man and his dog using
I definitely see the benefits of using them.. less power draw, less heat etc
Title: Re: How do you LED?
Post by: Strangeways on September 02, 2019, 09:57:32 AM
I get asked this 2-3 times a week. There is no "right" or "wrong" way to LED a machine. The only rule I have is to keep to the same format for ALL the games you are going to LED out. The reason for this is that as soon as you do the first game in the line up - you will have to do the rest of the games. As to "how" to LED a game - Buy several different styles of LED. Organize them in boxes or bags and then try each of them throughout a playfield. As you try each LED, you will find the ones you like in the game. Stick to those LEDs for all your games. Don't be afraid to experiment - I remember Greg giving me Super Brights for a ToM to be placed behind the translite. I thought he was nuts - but it looked AMAZING. This was YEARS before others started placing them there.

Personally, I use only Ablaze LEDs. Not because I sell them, but because I found these to be the best on the market - which is WHY I sell them. The "Ghostbusters Premium" range is the best on the market. They come in frosted and standard. Thankfully, the are VERY much a standard LED without looking like an extra on a "Men in Black" movie set with 5 arms and 4 SMD panels per arm. I use these for feature lamps. I use Ablaze SuperBrites 4-LED SMD for the translite. For GI, I use color co-ordinated standard #44 - depending on the game. Sometimes I use Cool Whites throughout, or in some case - like T3 - Red throughout.

I have not dipped the toe in LED for pre 90's games YET - but I have done some for customers that did look AMAZING.


Kits - I keep away from these. Rarely are they the correct ones for the game, and they suit the taste of the person who put it together.
Title: Re: How do you LED?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on September 02, 2019, 04:22:10 PM
I Thankfully, the are VERY much a standard LED without looking like an extra on a "Men in Black" movie set with 5 arms and 4 SMD panels per arm.


I used ugly LEDs along the board at the back of MiniPosts Spiderman
you cannot see the bulb when playing,but it lights up a playfield
Title: Re: How do you LED?
Post by: Cursed on September 02, 2019, 05:58:53 PM
While it is all personal this is how I like and have done my games Pete, if you remember how they look.

Cool white frosted for all GI - I really do not like colour GI as it washes out the colours in the plastics, frosted purely to protect the eyes.  %$%
Colour match all coloured inserts with the exception of Yellow and Orange - I find white can make colours look 'fluro'
Yellow and orange inserts, test with colour matching, cool and warm white - I have used all three in different machines under these colour inserts.

As Nino said, there is no wrong way to do it. Just play with what you like the look of.
Title: Re: How do you LED?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on September 03, 2019, 07:59:35 AM
@Cursed, i just remember a beautiful collection of games
Title: Re: How do you LED?
Post by: Cursed on September 03, 2019, 06:16:52 PM
@Cursed, i just remember a beautiful collection of games

Cheers Pete.

Doors will be opening again this coming November, more than welcome mate.

Maybe I can get some more AP'ers this year... ()
Title: Re: How do you LED?
Post by: Pop Bumper Pete on September 06, 2019, 09:45:43 AM
is it true that Williams games from the 80s (black knight etc) need no midifications or extra boards to work with LEDs?
Title: Re: How do you LED?
Post by: ddstoys on September 06, 2019, 09:46:36 AM
That’s true Pete just swap them in


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Title: Re: How do you LED?
Post by: phreak97 on February 01, 2020, 10:34:34 PM
is it true that Williams games from the 80s (black knight etc) need no midifications or extra boards to work with LEDs?
Do some games need modification?
Title: Re: How do you LED?
Post by: ddstoys on February 02, 2020, 09:38:07 AM
is it true that Williams games from the 80s (black knight etc) need no midifications or extra boards to work with LEDs?
Do some games need modification?
Yeah for example Bally Solid state games like Kiss Playboy evil kinevil etc can’t run LEDs without a replacement lamp board


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Title: Re: How do you LED?
Post by: phreak97 on February 04, 2020, 06:14:42 PM
is it true that Williams games from the 80s (black knight etc) need no midifications or extra boards to work with LEDs?
Do some games need modification?
Yeah for example Bally Solid state games like Kiss Playboy evil kinevil etc can’t run LEDs without a replacement lamp board


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Do you know the reason why they need more load?
Title: Re: How do you LED?
Post by: Strangeways on February 07, 2020, 10:29:13 AM
is it true that Williams games from the 80s (black knight etc) need no midifications or extra boards to work with LEDs?
Do some games need modification?
Yeah for example Bally Solid state games like Kiss Playboy evil kinevil etc can’t run LEDs without a replacement lamp board


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Do you know the reason why they need more load?

It is more to do with the fact that technology is different. Lamp Driver boards were designed to run incandescent globes. They are not compatible with LEDs, as LEDs are different technology, and less current draw. Globes can dim with different voltages, whereas LEDs need to be on or off.