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Title: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: Ford Fairlane on July 02, 2009, 08:21:40 PM
I bought a Toyota Kluger last year and wanted to put in a tow bar at the time. The price was $695 and i thought this was too expensive. Well now that i want to be able to transport pins, i thought i would bite the bullet and pay the $695 ... However the new quote is $950 and that is through my neighbour who works at the dealership i bought the car off. He says that if i dont go through him it would be even more as its not a simple thing to do (about 3 hours labour). Now i know my neighbour isnt bullshitting me (top bloke) but he says the dealership charges about $1300 after market for a towbar as it has to plugin to a module  !@#

WTF what a rip off!!! i dont really want to use the back of the kluger as i dont want the back of my seats all torn up. Im bummed about this cause i cant transport a pin. Why does it cost so much as i remember the good old days where i could get a tow bar for $300 max!
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: Marty Machine on July 02, 2009, 08:40:37 PM
I know the feeling, i bought MY Ford Territory last year, and nearly fell over when i was told "paint is extra"...WTF!! !! !!
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: pinmadd on July 02, 2009, 08:49:33 PM
we just got the new holden cruze over here, i priced a towbar...........$600 for bar $1000 for wiring +gst +labour to fit  #@#
i dont think i will be fitting many  !@#
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: ddstoys on July 02, 2009, 08:59:12 PM
Shit mate for $700 you could buy yourself a station wagon for transporting pins lol
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: Ford Fairlane on July 02, 2009, 09:03:15 PM
Shit mate for $700 you could buy yourself a station wagon for transporting pins lol

Plus third party insurance plus rego plus maintenance ...  :lol
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: Creech on July 02, 2009, 09:31:36 PM
Maybe you could buy a second hand trailer for less.
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: ddstoys on July 02, 2009, 09:36:43 PM
Rego and insurance what the hells that lol
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: Ford Fairlane on July 02, 2009, 09:38:02 PM
Maybe you could buy a second hand trailer for less.

I've already got the trailer (that i used with my old car) but i dont think i'll pay $950 to hook it up to the new one.

Rego and insurance what the hells that lol

Mate thats shocking  :lol :lol
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: Extra Ball on July 02, 2009, 09:48:30 PM
Recently bought a 2002 Jackaroo (transports a pin with room to spare......a few cms lol), and I count myself lucky it has a factory heavy duty towbar and bullbar, and alloys (they clinched the deal actually). I priced side-steps..... 550 bucks for two pieces of grooved aluminium (I can do without them now lol). Accessories is where we get ripped.
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: pinballist on July 02, 2009, 09:50:14 PM
Crickey mate $1800 for a bloody tow bar??  You could buy an old shit box Ford stn wagon for that price with rego & 3'rd party insurance - perfect for pinnies, though I wouldn't wanna be driving too far from home ;)
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: ajlaird on July 02, 2009, 11:21:11 PM
Or get an old ute and a tarp.
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: slammer on July 03, 2009, 08:18:11 AM
99% of factory towbars are made here in Australia by Haymen Reyse (check spelling) and rebadged by the car manufacturer I would ring a local towbar installer (most 4wd centres) and get a price from there.

They are generally 3 times the price I have found.

Also if you can rebuild a pinball, then installing a towbar is a piece of cake, a good afternoon's work really. And if your not 100% with the wiring then drop it off to an auto elect to finish off.

The box/module that they are talking about is not generally needed, but check with the auto elect.

The car manafactures always tell you need them, so when they install them it is a matter of plug n play with the wiring.

You could also get a price from the spare parts department of the car dealership on the module.

Cheers Angelo

Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: Ford Fairlane on July 03, 2009, 09:22:24 AM
Thanks Angelo, i will try that. I just refuse to believe its worth 1k  *.*
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: Pinfan on July 03, 2009, 12:30:19 PM
Rip off allright ! Way to expensive.

Mate i purchased a Factory Ford towbar assembly complete with wiring harness, tow ball, and hardware. It was purchased direct from Ford. Cost me $175.

I fitted it myself and it only took me 15 mins...Didn't even need to remove the bar !

Mine was a matter of bolt on, run the wiring harness to the adaptor and ready to rock and roll...

Most cars should have provisions for a tow bar regardless, should be a matter of bolt on, which is what the dealers basically do anyway.

Sometimes...and again i say sometimes it is cheaper to go to the dealer for parts..not for labour though... That's where the charges lay !
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: ktm450 on July 04, 2009, 10:58:31 AM
I bought a Toyota Kluger last year and wanted to put in a tow bar at the time. The price was $695 and i thought this was too expensive. Well now that i want to be able to transport pins, i thought i would bite the bullet and pay the $695 ... However the new quote is $950 and that is through my neighbour who works at the dealership i bought the car off. He says that if i dont go through him it would be even more as its not a simple thing to do (about 3 hours labour). Now i know my neighbour isnt bullshitting me (top bloke) but he says the dealership charges about $1300 after market for a towbar as it has to plugin to a module  !@#

WTF what a rip off!!! i dont really want to use the back of the kluger as i dont want the back of my seats all torn up. Im bummed about this cause i cant transport a pin. Why does it cost so much as i remember the good old days where i could get a tow bar for $300 max!

Sure is a rip off!  If a pin fits in the back of your car ok, how about investing $30 into a piece of 2mm thick lexan plastic that you could slide in and out when you need to transport pins without damaging your seats.
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: illawarra_steelers on July 04, 2009, 09:21:57 PM
Too right...I bought a new Hyundai i30 for my wife in January and was shocked at some of the extra and their prices.

Best was USB cable for her ipod for the car $89.....that part would of cost $0.50 to make  ^.^
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: v8racefan on July 05, 2009, 05:48:16 PM
Hey ford,

Try a local towbar installation company in your area, see yellowpages, these should be far more competitve than the dealership. Dealerships tend to rip customers off with the extra add ons, way cheaper to tint windows etc rather than the dealership prices  ^&^
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on July 12, 2009, 05:09:51 PM
Try a local towbar installation company in your area, see yellowpages, these should be far more competitve than the dealership. Dealerships tend to rip customers off with the extra add ons, way cheaper to tint windows etc rather than the dealership prices  ^&^

Thats exactly what i did when i bought my Camry station wagon five years ago. It ended up costing $300 all up to have the towbar fitted, and the trailer lights connector wired. I almost considered going to the toyota dealership first and getting one from them.. so glad i didnt now!!
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: shansta on July 13, 2009, 12:28:08 PM
Congrats on the Toyo - nice buy!

Go the Hayman Reece hitch - as someone pointed out, they are the factory unit! (Try the wreckers - cars been out for a while)

The module would be to hook the trailer up to the cars wiring loom / or if you have bulb failure detection - It will go nuts with the extra load!

Shop around - my contact is in Vic which is of no use to you - sorry!

The 1200/1600kg jobs I would fit myself - the 2300kg+ units - some bolt up - some need a fair bit of modification to fit...

******

MARTY: I noticed you have a terri too! Will a machine fit in the back with the headbox folded down? (Or anybody else who has a territory?) Mines a 5 seater...

Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: Ford Fairlane on July 14, 2009, 11:49:35 AM
thanks for the reply guys, it seems that you are absolutely right and that you can finf guys who will do it cheaper.. heres a quote i got

Hi,

The kluger only comes in a hitch style i.e.heavy duty --supplied fitted &
wire it is $520.
Fitting takes about 1.5 hrs

Thank you

Not a bad price i reckon  ^^^
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: shansta on July 14, 2009, 12:56:25 PM
Mate if my name was Shrek.

I would say "That'll do Donkey, that'll do...."  <.>

$520 is a good price IMO! Toyota don't mark up much do they?  :lol

Hitch style is the go - just remember to never leave it on when you park overnight.... (I LOVE Frankston......)
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: GZ20TT on July 23, 2009, 02:29:30 PM
It's not just Toyota though that overcharge on extras.

The last car I bought - a Subaru - the sales guy talked us through everything for the purchase, then they wheeled out the accesories chick.
Quite young, perfectly styled, shirt virtually open down to navel.
She looked disappointed as my wife was there with me.
I shudder to think what the bill would have been if I'd been alone.

Frankie
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: AskJacob on July 23, 2009, 02:50:44 PM
It's not just Toyota though that overcharge on extras.

The last car I bought - a Subaru - the sales guy talked us through everything for the purchase, then they wheeled out the accesories chick.
Quite young, perfectly styled, shirt virtually open down to navel.
She looked disappointed as my wife was there with me.
I shudder to think what the bill would have been if I'd been alone.

Frankie

Same when I got my Subi. They must be included with the dealer franchise....

She tried selling me tint which will help "protect my valuable asset". Then she said I need an application of "UV Plastic protection" for the dash. She was perplexed when I asked "OK so which one does not work if you reckon I need both?"

I passed thanks, and got a metal tint elsewhere and said "bugger that" to the UV goop.

I was horrified at the price of the towbar, and held off for 5 years before I ended up getting a Hayman Reece fitted for ~$550.

A tip: spend a few extra $$ for the flat cable, so you can tuck it inside the car when not in use. It is a good idea if you don't use the towbar very often, the connector won't get full of crap/corrode.

Cheers
Jacob
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: shansta on July 24, 2009, 01:05:50 AM
It's not just Toyota though that overcharge on extras.

The last car I bought - a Subaru - the sales guy talked us through everything for the purchase, then they wheeled out the accesories chick.
Quite young, perfectly styled, shirt virtually open down to navel.
She looked disappointed as my wife was there with me.
I shudder to think what the bill would have been if I'd been alone.

Frankie

We used to have a blackwoods rep like that - place used to come to a standstill once a week...
Title: Re: New cars and their extras ...
Post by: Caveoftreasures on July 24, 2009, 08:21:18 PM
Go to a wrecker...they will have almost every towbar in stock and will sell n fit it at half the cost...i personally hire a trailer from kennards, pay $40 for 24hrs, sit machine flat on 3 old tyres, wrap machine in a white sheet to protect cabinet, then wrap machine in waterproof blue tarps x 2, then use ratchet straps to tie down .I have moved seven or 8 machines from nsw to qld, 9 hours worth of driving, and every pin has never had an issue, even in the worst rain....go the rental trailer !!!....or a cheap half price tow bar from the wreckers. !@#