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Aussie Pinball Forums => General Discussion => General Pinball Discussion => Topic started by: illawarra_steelers on November 27, 2009, 07:21:56 PM
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$#$ i have vol 1,2,3 now i need 4.tried to get it last chrisse but was not available.thanks tony.
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Most of us would probably like a volume 3. When will volume 3 be back in stock ? Anyone asked Michael ?
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Hey Tony, why not try to get Michael to become an AP member? Then he can advertise his wares directly. It would be great to have such a knowledgeable pinball person here.
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Fortunately there is just not too much rubbish going on here!
Occasionally someone might cross a line in stirring another member but usually they have gotten over it.
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I've got all 4 books from Michael himself & can't wait for number 5.
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...and if you ever want a game, whatever the era if anybody can get it - it's Michael
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I will second that, a casual chat with Michael about one day wanting to get the skydiving themed and within 6 months I have them (Sky Jump, Free Fall, Sky Divers & Sky Kings) $#$ $#$
His books are fantastic, I have all 4 signed by him - well worth the money.
Cheers
Graeme
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The books do look good - had a quick squiz at the Expo and they looked well put together. I was tempted but I was on a meagre budget that weekend.
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I'm looking forward to collecting all Micheal's books - I keep "saying" that, but I never get around to it !
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Hey Tony, why not try to get Michael to become an AP member? Then he can advertise his wares directly. It would be great to have such a knowledgeable pinball person here.
Hey Tony,
He is a member && Check under user name Shalhoub
Mike just doesn't want the politics, ego (lots of that in the hobby) and all the BS that goes with it.....
The guy might cop some sh*t from people from time to time but that is only because of the 'tall poppy syndrome' here in Australia
Anybody that knows him will tell you there is not another guy in the hobby here in Australia with the amount of years and passion that he has.
Have know him for over 25 years and not once in that time has he done the wrong thing by me....and if you ever want a game, whatever the era if anybody can get it - it's Michael
So why did he bother to join if he doesn't want to contribute here? !@#
I guess from your comments you are saying that he thinks this forum is full of politics and BS?
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Hey Tony, why not try to get Michael to become an AP member? Then he can advertise his wares directly. It would be great to have such a knowledgeable pinball person here.
Hey Tony,
He is a member && Check under user name Shalhoub
Mike just doesn't want the politics, ego (lots of that in the hobby) and all the BS that goes with it.....
The guy might cop some sh*t from people from time to time but that is only because of the 'tall poppy syndrome' here in Australia
Anybody that knows him will tell you there is not another guy in the hobby here in Australia with the amount of years and passion that he has.
Have know him for over 25 years and not once in that time has he done the wrong thing by me....and if you ever want a game, whatever the era if anybody can get it - it's Michael
So why did he bother to join if he doesn't want to contribute here? !@#
I guess from your comments you are saying that he thinks this forum is full of politics and BS?
Tony - I have personally invited Micheal here on a number of occasions &&
He is VERY supportive of AP and if you check the threads on the Pinball Expo - you can see he went out of his way to hand out AP flyers. He just does not post on forums, including RGP
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Tony,
There is a political statement at the end of every post you make. it is directed at someone is it not?
Ive spoken to Michael about being a member here and he has very valid reasons to not contribute to any forum
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Retropin, which Tony are you responding to?
If it's me then I say this to you...He is already a member here. Why bother joining if he has no intention of contributing. Makes no sense to me at all.
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Professional people like michael, mark etc are businessmen and accordingly, always act professionally and are passionate about the hobby and their respective businesses, so they always avoid hassles, like any smart business people, so i understand why michael may choose, not to post on this or the other forum. His books do his talking for him. (but can someone find me a friggin copy of the 1982 to present ? the books cant be read if ya cant bloody buy them) or can someone lend me one for a few weeks. I'll buy anyones spare copy ?)
As for egos and politics, we arent machines, sometimes the passion gets the better of us, and typed english can be interpreted in so many ways, sometimes wrongly.We are just all pin loving guys trying to have a bit of fun.If the forums werent full of different personalities and people, we would all just go to the library,not. lol
*still waiting for volume 3. Michael, sell me a book. pls.pretty pls. !@# !@# !@#
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Well said mate.
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So why did he bother to join if he doesn't want to contribute here? !@#
I guess from your comments you are saying that he thinks this forum is full of politics and BS?
Think this is very unfair. How do you define contribution? Don't think contribution should just be how many posts you make on the forum or how long you spend on it. Michael has helped a number of members of this forum source games that they may not have been able to source otherwise, me included and has directed a number of people to the forum. There aint too many people I hold in as much high regard.
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Think this is very unfair. How do you define contribution? Don't think contribution should just be how many posts you make on the forum or how long you spend on it. Michael has helped a number of members of this forum source games that they may not have been able to source otherwise, me included and has directed a number of people to the forum. There aint too many people I hold in as much high regard.
Fair enough but you've missed my point completely. He has become a member of our forum, last visited in July and never made a post. I'm not doubting his contribution at all to the pinball community. In fact, he is undoubtedly the most influential pinball person in Australia. No denying that. I'm questioning why go to the bother of joining this forum if he doesn't want to contribute or lurk even?
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At expo Michael contributed to this forum by helping to hand out AP flyers and especially making sure that anyone who purchased a pin on the Sunday got a flyer. He also gave the forum a very good plug during the Saturday night dinner.
Every one is different and has their own reasons for the way they do things; it would be fantastic if Michael posted on the forum given his enormous wealth of knowledge, but maybe he prefers to spend his time doing other things rather than hanging out on a pinball forum (inexplicable I know, but it could be true).
I can see your point about why join if you are not going to get involved, but I can understand not posting as well - I am on a couple of mailing lists which I used to contribute to, but don't any more. I still find it interesting to see what is going on, however, so I remain on them. And if someone was bugging him to join maybe he did so to stop the bugging...
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OK look, it's obvious I'm in the minority on this one so let's just leave it then. No point flogging a dead horse. If you guys believe he is contributing here then so be it. I'm happy if you're happy.
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Think this is very unfair. How do you define contribution? Don't think contribution should just be how many posts you make on the forum or how long you spend on it. Michael has helped a number of members of this forum source games that they may not have been able to source otherwise, me included and has directed a number of people to the forum. There aint too many people I hold in as much high regard.
Fair enough but you've missed my point completely. He has become a member of our forum, last visited in July and never made a post. I'm not doubting his contribution at all to the pinball community. In fact, he is undoubtedly the most influential pinball person in Australia. No denying that. I'm questioning why go to the bother of joining this forum if he doesn't want to contribute or lurk even?
In all honesty - does it really matter?
he joined cos Tony M kept hounding him.. i have done the same and directed him to restore threads... maybe he joined to be able to read threads properly... maybe he joined but then read something that reminded him why he doesnt involve himself in forums.. maybe he joined to just shut Tony M up?
maybe he joined and then saw open discussion about someone that he thought was unfair ( just read this thread).
Maybe...maybe..maybe
At the end of the day... he did join but decided not to post.. that was his choice, anything else is speculation and the whys and wherefores are really none of our business....why is this being discussed anyway???
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....why is this being discussed anyway???
Gee I don't know, maybe it has something to do with the fact that we live in a free country and we can generally talk about things we have an opinion about.
If you want a direct answer to your question...I see his wares advertised here all the time. Our sponsors pay for the privilege of advertising their stuff on AP, you included. For some reason he appears to not fall into the same category, yet his products continue to be advertised here. That's all Gavin, nothing more, nothing less. Before you say "others advertise their stuff here all the time", the difference being is that his book sales and machine sales are part of his ongoing commercial concern. i.e. it's more than a hobby to him.
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I've got Michael's third book (1982 - present) which I bought and had him personally sign at the Expo . They are fantastic books IMO and well worth the $ .
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There's always lots of enthusiasm for these books. I have 1-3 (well 3 has been with Nug for ever, might get it back one day). While they are a great source of information and pictures, the writing style left me just looking at the pics and captions. Not sure if these are self-edited, but they sure could have done with some input. That did put me off buying 4 (and truthfully my wife bought me the other 3!!)
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I read so many interesting sentences in all of the above mentioned posts. i will side with creech just for the hell of it.i like minority's. lol ^^^
first question, what do u have to do to become "undoubtedly the most influential pinball person in Australia".
dont answer that. i was just wondering who he was influencing ? i just saw the funny side of it. it was like Michael had the ear of the "pinball boss's".
(If you can imagine "pinball combined with the soprano's", it looked great in my head. like a new TV series. lol :D :D
and the second funny thing was that u got a "free flyer" if u purchased a pinball machine.
yep, that again, sounded funny. probably one of the most generous offers i have ever heard of. spend 2 grand and get a 5 cent brochure. !@#
perhaps i didnt see the attractiveness of that offer.
but, from what i hear he is a nice bloke. i actually bought a bugs bunny pinball machine from someone and it had michaels card stapled inside the machine. it took beaky about 10 hrs to fix all the hack repairs inside it. i wish the pinball tech who attempted to fix it had of bought one of michaels books and looked at some of the photos in better detail. !@#
maybe book 3 was out of stock still. lol *)* one day, i will get him to sign my book, if i ever find one ! !^! !^!
ps- only read if u have a sense of humour. ^^^
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I'm still trying to buy the 4 books since this was announced last year.
I realise Michael is often O/Seas, but i rarely (never) get a reply, so it's hard to complete a purchase.
Michael recently (last week) replied to me about a machine purchase, but when i mentioned also buying the books i get no reply.
What the???
All i want is to buy some books, can't be that hard !*!
MM.
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All i want is to buy some books, can't be that hard !*!
MM.
How does the cost work out from Amazon these days with the good AUD
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The prices from Michael are way below anywhere else.
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I have the first three books, they are well worth the money, with some great insight into the game design and the various people involved
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I'm still trying to buy the 4 books since this was announced last year.
I realise Michael is often O/Seas, but i rarely (never) get a reply, so it's hard to complete a purchase.
Michael recently (last week) replied to me about a machine purchase, but when i mentioned also buying the books i get no reply.
What the???
All i want is to buy some books, can't be that hard !*!
MM.
Same here, just wont to buy the books. *%* but no reply.
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Yep, using that email tony...
As i said earlier, he did replay just last week about a machine enquiry, and when i responded and added enquiry about books it's gone quiet again.
WTF !! ?? !!
i'm guessin' he's busy takin' care of biz etc.
Tony, do you (or anyone else) wanna setup handling of the books for AP members to help lighten the workload off Michael ??
Clearly he's too busy for us.
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Forgot to add, i'm looking for ALL 4 books, although i believe one is sold-out?
Anyway, please grab the 3-4 books for me if anyone's gonna handle orders on behalf of Michael.
Marty.
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Yep, using that email tony...
As i said earlier, he did replay just last week about a machine enquiry, and when i responded and added enquiry about books it's gone quiet again.
WTF !! ?? !!
i'm guessin' he's busy takin' care of biz etc.
Tony, do you (or anyone else) wanna setup handling of the books for AP members to help lighten the workload off Michael ??
Clearly he's too busy for us.
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Forgot to add, i'm looking for ALL 4 books, although i believe one is sold-out?
Anyway, please grab the 3-4 books for me if anyone's gonna handle orders on behalf of Michael.
Marty.
Same email address i used as well.Looking to get the complete set ,and sign as well if possible.
Just waiting to he from him but if someone else wont to help him, let me no as just want a set of books.
Thanks
Craig
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Thanx Tony,
I'm hoping the orders will fly now &&
MM.
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Mate, did he die or something? #@#
Tony, are you in a better position to grab/order/push several orders for the few of us that still want the books.
Maybe you can crack a better deal if you were arranging 5-10 lots of books?
Unfortunately we're in different states, otherwise i'd jump on the distribution side of things for him. (at least for the AP crew deals anyway).
Marty.
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Thanx for your help Tony.
I wanted ALL 4 books, although i believe 1 is sold out? anyway 3 or 4, whatever can be managed.
I believe several others in this post wanted ALL 4 too, or just 1 issue...
With Thanx,
Marty. ( Cashed up ready to Bank-Deposit or PayPal whoever i need to ) %$%
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Hi Tony.
I'd also be interested in the three that are currently available, if it's not too much trouble to post them up to Brissy.
Happy to direct deposit or paypal.
Steve.
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Thanx for your help Tony.
I wanted ALL 4 books, although i believe 1 is sold out? anyway 3 or 4, whatever can be managed.
I believe several others in this post wanted ALL 4 too, or just 1 issue...
With Thanx,
Marty. ( Cashed up ready to Bank-Deposit or PayPal whoever i need to ) %$%
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These are what are available....no Vol 3 at present
Volume 1 (1930's to 1960's) $40.00
Volume 2 (1970 to 1981) $50.00
Volume 3 (1982 to present) - out of stock
Volume 4 (electro mechanical era) $65.00
Ok, Books 1,2, & 4 it is.....(guess i can source #3 online elsewhere).
Done! Sold! now how do i get them hehehehehe
If it helps (postage-wise and minimal packages, saves Michael having to package numerous orders) the VIC-orders could all go in 1 box to me, and the VIC guys can pickup from me here.
Marty.
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Has anyone ordered and got any of his books before christmas, I ordered one and got a reply a couple of weeks later,confirmed what i wanted and have not heard anything from him.the Email sounded like he would send it then pay when it arrived???
i was hoping to get it before christmas, my wife was going to give it to me.
Ian
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Still no progress for me for 6 months.....oh well...
I'll take pics of pins and make my own damn books !!!
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Does anyone know of a reliable source where we can go online tonight, order the pinball books we want, pay tonight online & get the things in a week or so. ?
The post read "book sale". I dont see any books getting sold. Can someone who knows Michael ring him up and see if he is still interested in selling his books, or has he moved on to something else. Post his phone number, perhaps 50 of us can call him. I am sure he would like some $. !@# !@# !@# !@#
Where are these dam books ? ANYONE ?
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Does anyone know of a reliable source where we can go online tonight, order the pinball books we want, pay tonight online & get the things in a week or so. ?
" tell him, he's dreamin' son..."
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Does anyone know of a reliable source where we can go online tonight, order the pinball books we want, pay tonight online & get the things in a week or so. ?
" tell him, he's dreamin' son..."
yeh, i guess i will just have to look forward to this months penthouse instead. lol. $#$ $#$ :D :D :D :D :D :D ^&^ ^&^
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yeh, i guess i will just have to look forward to this months penthouse instead. lol. $#$ $#$ :D :D :D :D :D :D ^&^ ^&^
At least you can GET IT... #@#
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Will talk to Michael and see if i can distribute to the forum for him... odd thing is that it wasnt that long back that i had approx 10 or so boxes of books in my hands... should have kept some for you guys...
Give me a few days... will try and sort something out
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Thanx for that, that will be a BIG help to everyone here, no doubt.
I realise it's getting too close to Xmas now, but i'd hope to at least get mine in Jan sometime??
Please keep me posted, waiting to place/pay for my order....
Marty.
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Have spoken to Michael who is in Melbourne at the moment.
He will be giving me some copies of the books for members here to have... If those interested in the books PM me ill make a list of who wants what and sort it out for you all. Ill be getting the books in Jan and can distribute them then ^^^ ^^^
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I have spoken to Michael and he sent me the second book as I requested earlier this week. He was hard to get to because he is busy but when I made contact he sent it immediately and I was able to transfer the money to his account.
Easy.
I havent seen it yet as it is my Christmas present!!!!
Thanks for the post Tony!
J.D.
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Retropin! Still no progress with this, wazzup????????
MM.
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book sale. !@# !@# what book sale. lol @.@ @.@ @.@
someone should scan one of those long lost books, then throw the link on here so we can all read it.
it could be a virtual book. *)* after all, no one chops down trees anymore and reads paper books do they. *.*
(certainly not these long lost elusive little buggers).
get out the scanner lads. pretend its a set of decals or something. lol *)* *)* *)* *)* *)*
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Michaels trip to Brisbane got postponed and so we havent met up yet this year. I will be talking to him in the week though and will chase him up on these.
To be perfectly honest, ive spoken to him many times, but the books just never came up in our conversations.. in other words, i completely forgot about them... but i WILL bring them up again and i WILL get something sorted for you guys
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book sale. !@# !@# what book sale. lol @.@ @.@ @.@
someone should scan one of those long lost books, then throw the link on here so we can all read it.
it could be a virtual book. *)* after all, no one chops down trees anymore and reads paper books do they. *.*
(certainly not these long lost elusive little buggers).
get out the scanner lads. pretend its a set of decals or something. lol *)* *)* *)* *)* *)*
All said in good humour I'm sure but I don't think MS would appreciate his books being scanned and made publicly available.
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Michaels trip to Brisbane got postponed and so we havent met up yet this year. I will be talking to him in the week though and will chase him up on these.
To be perfectly honest, ive spoken to him many times, but the books just never came up in our conversations.. in other words, i completely forgot about them... but i WILL bring them up again and i WILL get something sorted for you guys
PLEASE write a note to remind yourself !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MM.