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Title: WMS World Cup - yet another machine turns up
Post by: FirePower on April 09, 2010, 07:28:28 PM
It seems lately everyone is getting one of these!

There was project WMS World Cup machine that turned up on ebay the other day. Described as not working but lighting up. Anyway I ended up buying it. The play field is filthy, dirt and dust is throughout the cabinet, back glass ok, boards look good with minimal corrosion, cabinet is a bit rough - knocked around and the rear chip board panel is disintegrating a bit, everything present except for coin mechs and coin box.

Anyway, I put it together today - checked all the fuse ratings, measured the coil resistances and diodes, verified free movement of solenoid mechanisms and finally measured the power supply with everything disconnected.  All seemed ok, so I connected it up and turned it on. Mostly it works and looks to be fun.  An "interesting" mod has been made to the right eject hole - it's got foam stuffed into it to prevent the ball landing. When I touched the ball switch the machine went ape with solenoids firing all over the place and the flippers dropped out, so maybe a good mod.  Cool early electronic sounds and the ability to simulate a chime box through the sound card! One display is not working, but other than that and needing a good clean it seems ok.  I'm a happy chap and here are some pics.

Title: Re: WMS World Cup - yet another machine turns up
Post by: ddstoys on April 09, 2010, 07:30:53 PM
Nice score Dave  its a fun game everyone loved coming back to the one i had
Title: Re: WMS World Cup - yet another machine turns up
Post by: Strangeways on April 09, 2010, 09:27:10 PM

Nice machine - interesting mods on the power supply !
Title: Re: WMS World Cup - yet another machine turns up
Post by: pinballben93 on April 09, 2010, 10:31:13 PM
Nice pick up mate
Knew someone who had one
Should sell pretty well
Title: Re: WMS World Cup - yet another machine turns up
Post by: Retropin on April 09, 2010, 11:04:02 PM

Nice machine - interesting mods on the power supply !

Yeh - whats the go there?? looks like another cap(?) in parallel... ach, ive done the same thing myself

BG on these machines is notorious for being in a bad shape.. looks like your one is just about holding up. I had one of these BGs and the artwork was just peeling off in sheets... id be sealing that one ASAP
Title: Re: WMS World Cup - yet another machine turns up
Post by: FreePlay on April 09, 2010, 11:23:48 PM
aahh I remember that game in its day
Title: Re: WMS World Cup - yet another machine turns up
Post by: FirePower on April 10, 2010, 09:02:53 AM

Nice machine - interesting mods on the power supply !

Yeh - whats the go there?? looks like another cap(?) in parallel... ach, ive done the same thing myself

BG on these machines is notorious for being in a bad shape.. looks like your one is just about holding up. I had one of these BGs and the artwork was just peeling off in sheets... id be sealing that one ASAP

Yep the power supply mod is bodgy - two caps in parallel to get the correct value, the second is loosely cable tied to the harness!  I can't live with it, but the ac ripple is very low.  The transformer also makes an awful hum, so I have to have a look at mountings etc.

The BG has bits of tape on the rear covering some scars and I'm scared of removing them for lifting paint - will have to have a closer look. As part of the clean up I plant to put leds in the backbox GI so this should help.  Retropin when you say the BG are notorious for being in bad shape do you mean WC machines? or WMS machines of this vintage or just generally machines of this vintage?
Title: Re: WMS World Cup - yet another machine turns up
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on April 10, 2010, 09:41:48 AM
JEEZ thats a pearler of a fix.. tape on the backglass @.@ i bet that would just make ya wanna find the idiot who did that and smack 'em in the head!! well thats how i feel when i see anything like that on anything i buy!! the cap hanging off the power supply board is good too :lol

looks like a good project though. looking forward to the restore thread


Title: Re: WMS World Cup - yet another machine turns up
Post by: Retropin on April 10, 2010, 10:14:38 AM

Nice machine - interesting mods on the power supply !

Yeh - whats the go there?? looks like another cap(?) in parallel... ach, ive done the same thing myself

BG on these machines is notorious for being in a bad shape.. looks like your one is just about holding up. I had one of these BGs and the artwork was just peeling off in sheets... id be sealing that one ASAP

Yep the power supply mod is bodgy - two caps in parallel to get the correct value, the second is loosely cable tied to the harness!  I can't live with it, but the ac ripple is very low.  The transformer also makes an awful hum, so I have to have a look at mountings etc.

The BG has bits of tape on the rear covering some scars and I'm scared of removing them for lifting paint - will have to have a closer look. As part of the clean up I plant to put leds in the backbox GI so this should help.  Retropin when you say the BG are notorious for being in bad shape do you mean WC machines? or WMS machines of this vintage or just generally machines of this vintage?



WMS machines are generally good for the BG holding up... but for some reason World Cup backglasses always seem to be just peeling off
Title: Re: WMS World Cup - yet another machine turns up
Post by: ajlaird on April 10, 2010, 07:20:25 PM

Nice machine - interesting mods on the power supply !

Yeh - whats the go there?? looks like another cap(?) in parallel... ach, ive done the same thing myself

BG on these machines is notorious for being in a bad shape.. looks like your one is just about holding up. I had one of these BGs and the artwork was just peeling off in sheets... id be sealing that one ASAP

Yep the power supply mod is bodgy - two caps in parallel to get the correct value, the second is loosely cable tied to the harness!  I can't live with it, but the ac ripple is very low.  The transformer also makes an awful hum, so I have to have a look at mountings etc.

The BG has bits of tape on the rear covering some scars and I'm scared of removing them for lifting paint - will have to have a closer look. As part of the clean up I plant to put leds in the backbox GI so this should help.  Retropin when you say the BG are notorious for being in bad shape do you mean WC machines? or WMS machines of this vintage or just generally machines of this vintage?



WMS machines are generally good for the BG holding up... but for some reason World Cup backglasses always seem to be just peeling off

They must have experimented with a different paint process, or something.
Title: Re: WMS World Cup - yet another machine turns up
Post by: Strangeways on April 10, 2010, 07:29:06 PM

I think it is thinner paint and the heat from the globes toasted the paint and then it falls off in flakes. WC and Time Warp are nearly always this bad.
Title: Re: WMS World Cup - yet another machine turns up
Post by: Pinballrocks on April 25, 2010, 03:32:50 PM
 Congrats on the WC.  ^^^
 
 The BG looks in better condition than mine. Im now juggling 3 projects at once so still havent fixed my displays.
 Yours will probably be completed before mine.  *%*
Title: Re: WMS World Cup - yet another machine turns up
Post by: infinite1977 on May 11, 2010, 07:03:13 PM
Looks good. I would seal the BG. mine was peeling something awful as well. Once I put the sealer on, it stopped completely. I should have mine fired up this weekend hopefully.

Good pick up.