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Title: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: ktm450 on April 09, 2011, 08:27:36 PM
Firstly I'd like to give a big thanks to all the people that have helped me out along the way Nino for sorting out some parts I needed, Nick & Anthony (Nicks Brother) for supplying the paint, Daniel for  more parts, Greg for vinyl cutting drop target images and pop rings, Tim for helping with the targets, Marco for the last minute coin door decal, Gav for stencils, Lee from Pinball Rescue for the key tag and decals, Tony from Pinball Shed for delivering it down here from Brisbane safely, my brothers Tim and Darren for helping financing the rebuild, my wife Brooke for being so understanding and spending many nights alone whilst I was working on the pin, and for anyone else I missed who gave me valuable help and advice along the way.
I really appreciate it guys.

Some of you would have followed some of this restore through my ‘please help’ thread:

http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=5992.0 (http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=5992.0)

Sorry if some info is repeated, On to the restoration….

BACKGROUND:
I had been thinking for a long time about my Father’s 60th birthday, he had often joked that once us boys moved out he would have a games room, so I had considered restoring an old pinball for him, I had considered games from his birth year but though they wouldn’t really be sentimental as he would never have played them as a child, so I moved forward and considered games of his teens and early twenties.  Dad has played tennis most of his life so one game stood out above the rest “VOLLEY”.  Not only is it tennis themed but it also is a great game with 15 drop targets to shoot for.
I had been keeping my eyes out for one to come up in the last year or so, but was not real serious, still unsure if it was the best gift for him, sure, I love pinball but I was not 100% sold on the idea. But then again, who wouldn't want a pinball machine next to their bar??  The best thing about it for me was I could put a lot of time in restoring it  Dad has always put a lot of time in for us boys growing up and I wanted to give him something back (even if he didn’t know how long it really took me to restore)
I had given up on the idea, as his birthday was only 2 months away when a Volley appeared on eBay, I toyed with the idea but really didn’t think I’d have enough time to get it restored, a few guys offered me their help where ever they could, and I started to really consider it, I talked to my wife and told her she would be seeing less of me in the next two months as I will be busy in the shed, asked my two brothers if they were in, and the rest is history.

CONDITION:
Backglass is in great condition for its age.  There is a small amount of paint missing on the left hand side half way down, where the backglass has rubbed on the timber light board behind it, also from the heat of the globes in the area.   I’m sure it could be touched up in the future, but is not really necessary.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0120.jpg)

Playfield is in good condition, it has had contact put down on it, I’m pretty sure it is not mylar as it is quite thin.  It has some very small areas of missing artwork, perhaps from previous mylar removal, as it is obviously not ball wear,  other than the typical under pop bumper wear it still looks quite good.  Wood grain laminate was used to cover the pop bumper wear and the shooter lane and ball arch area.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0124.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0122.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0123.jpg)

The cabinet is in poor condition, with gouge marks and graffiti, the sides of the headbox has very bad ‘planking’ of the timber, I knew I would have to restore the cabinet before purchasing so I was not at all concerned about its condition as long as I had a solid base to work from which it was.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0114.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0116.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0117.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0130.jpg)

This is a close up shot of the planking, and some well endowed fellow  *)*

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0168.jpg)

Legs supplied were incorrect for the game so I purchased some new correct length ones from Daniel.

The rest of the game was good, after checking and replacing a few fuses with the correct ratings I plugged it in for the first time and everything seemed to work.
The only thing missing was a replay knocker, which Daniel had a spare for me which he kindly donated, luckily the chime unit was complete as these are apparently hard to find.

REBUILD:

CABINET
After a couple of games to check everything was ok, I stripped everything out of and off the cabinet.
I made a stand to sit the playfield on whilst it was out of the game, and lay everything else out in different sections, so hopefully I could work out where to put it all back.
I stripped down the cabinet with paint stripper a very messy job, let it dry for a few days then started sanding.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0183.jpg)

The headbox took a long time because of the ‘planking’ I had to get rid of a lot of it, then used plastic builders filler to smooth any depressions out, same on the body, After it was dry, sand, bog, sand, bog, sand…. Spot putty, sand, spot putty, sand…
Got everything nice and smooth then lay on some primer, found a few other little areas, more spot putty, then finished priming.
This process took at least 10 hours, I had to keep telling myself that it was not a car, just timber, but unfortunately  I am a bit of a perfectionist and had to get it as good as I possibly could, which after the webbing was applied I worked out I definitely did not have to be so pedantic  (webbing was used from factory to cover and flaws in the timber and I wanted to keep it looking as original as possible).

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0214.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0216.jpg)

I must also mention a huge thanks to Nick, who organised to get his brother Anthony, a manager of a local Paint supply shop, to colour match the colours for me.  When I went back to pay for the paint, Anthony told me Nick had sorted it all out for me.  Very generous thank you mate!  He tells me that is was payback for a couple of ramps I made for him but I think I still owe him  *%*

After primer, light sand then onto the white, I lay down 3 wet coats then let dry for a day, light sand then another 3 wet coats. 
It came out perfectly, nice and smooth,  another light sand, then onto the webbing.
I wanted to produce the webbing as close to original as possible, It was originally done by spraygun at the factory, which was the way I ended up choosing to do it, I did practice with the wire brush method and the toothbrush method but both are very messy and very time consuming.
I ended up using unthinned black paint in the gun, set at 40psi with nozzle fan opened right out and paint needle screwed open too.  The gun then spits out a web as you move along which just lays on the surface, which I ended up sealing down by applying a couple of coats of clear.  I would suggest practicing on some white cardboard or plastic playing around with the gun before letting loose on your cabinet, but it was a lot easier than I thought it would be and if worse comes to worse you could wipe some webbing off (not the paint spots) if you did go a little overboard in one area.  But it is not really necessary as if you go slowly, you can always add more as you go until you get a satisfactory job.  I chose to use the flyer as a rough idea on how much webbing to apply and a few photos off the net.  I had seen some cabs with more webbing and some with less, I chose to go somewhere in between.
So then to seal in the webbing as stated before I lay down two wet coats of clear, ready for stencils, if I didn’t do this the webbing would definitely be removed when I removed the stencils.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0220.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0222.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0226.jpg)

Stencil time…
Gav’s stencils are easy to apply, just peel off, line up, apply, press down around paint edges then remove backing paper.  The large ones for the body need a helper to support.  The stencils for the sides of the headbox were about 40mm to wide so I had to trim 20mm off one edge to line up with the edge of the cabinet. Other than that they were great.  Mask off the rest of the cabinet then apply the colour.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0281.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0284.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0286.jpg)

The paint was touch dry in about a minute, so I waited until I had cleaned the gun out, about 10 minutes, before removing the stencils.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0289.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0292.jpg)

A couple of coats of clear were then applied to get ready for the next stencil.  The green took me about 5 hours to do. It was a little tricky lining up the stencils in exactly the correct place, luckly the stencil are very good quality and could be removed and restuck if I had only applied the bottom sections to check alignment.  Also the green on the front of the backbox is very close to the edge so it was a little tricky to get the stencil to stop from falling into the area where the glass sits.  I ended up taping it from the back.
I then applied 4 coats of clear, I was happy with the result but it was a little too glossy as can be seen in this photo:

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0303.jpg)

I thought I’d see how it would look if I added some satin into the clear to take the edge off the gloss, and make it look more original.  Another two coats and here is the finished result:

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0321.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0328.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0323.jpg)



PLAYFIELD
I considered removing the contact/mylar, touching up the artwork then replacing the mylar, but after a few suggestions not to, and Nino popping over to look at it first hand, he thought removing it would definitely lift the paint, as it was in good condition other than the small dots of missing paint the lifting wood grain would definitely result in more dramas than any good.
I really didn’t have the time for that anyway, I started removing the woodgrain film in the shooter lane, it looked like it had been there since the pin was new! It looks like a ball has never touched the shooter lane.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0259.jpg)

Gave it a good clean and wax to keep it from future wear.

The ball arch area was also good, very little wear before the contact/mylar was put down tiny spot next to the rebound rubber, but amazing for its age.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0261.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0262.jpg)

The woodgrain film covering the pop bumper areas was removed uncovering the typical wear

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0276.jpg)

Greg made me up some vinyl rings to cover the wear…

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0330.jpg)

Playfield was cleaned, posts cleaned, metal polished, I flattened plastics out using a heat gun then made some protectors for the lower ones to prevent any damage.
Gave the area under the apron a tidy up whilst it was off.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0336crop.jpg)

Flippers were rebuilt with a PBR kit, including new end of stroke switches, coil tubing, plungers and tips, return springs and flipper bearings.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0251.jpg)

Greg also made me some decals to freshen up the drop targets as you can not clean them the original paint just wipes off as I found out.
He made me heaps of black and white stars and clear mylar covers

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0335.jpg)

They were fiddly to apply but came up great. I just cleaned the targets with Novus 2 which removed all the original paint then I used the outline of the ‘hot stamp’ impression to line up the decal then applied the mylar covers to make future cleaning easy.
Unfortunately during cleaning I snapped the middle yellow target,  @.@ obviously brittle after years of hits, luckily Daniel came to my rescue, he had an old yellow target with a blue star, I just novused off the blue paint and put the black decal on.  I cant believe what a pain in the butt it is to remove and replace a single target, solid units but not made easy for maintenance.  Took about half an hour to swap out.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallIMG_2903.jpg)

With everything looking so good, I decided I couldn’t very well leave the apron as it was and gave it a freshen up as well.  I ordered the decals from Lee at Pinball Resource.  They have recently released reproduction Volley Plastics, luckly my originals are in great condition, but I asked Lee if he had a spare key chain to finish the game off, he found one for me and threw it in with my order for free!
Everything arrived nicely packaged, decals, applicator, backing paper, instructions, key chain and a couple of bumper stickers  &&

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0293.jpg)

I sandblasted the apron, shooter gauge and ball arch back to bare metal, applied primer, sanded back smooth, applied 4 coats of white and sanded back then 4 coats of clear then let dry for a week and applied the decals.
I had to make up my own score and instruction cards as Peter is yet to do them for a Volley, I printed them on cardstock, cut them to size and popped them in.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0351.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallSAM_0359.jpg)

Pop bumpers were rebuilt with new bodies, skirts, coil sleeves and caps.
Lane guide plastics replaced.
Ball arch gate and rebound post polished up and new rebound rubber applied

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallIMG_2886.jpg)

A couple more Playfield shots

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallIMG_2897.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallIMG_2892.jpg)

Coin door, lock down bar and side rails were re-grained and replaced, coin door also received new button and decal.
New shooter assembly too.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallIMG_2909.jpg)

Head box mechs replaced, new foam applied to pretect the glass and all bulbs were replaced with #47s to keep the heat down a bit, hopefully preventing any future damage to the artwork.

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallIMG_2884.jpg)

New legs, leg levellers and bolts polished before attaching and the game is complete!  #*#

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallIMG_2913.jpg)











Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: Retropin on April 09, 2011, 08:52:13 PM
Jesus!!! How bloody good does that machine look?

Would be a contender for Raphael's museum in France for sure.

Well done mate looks sensational and all done in the time frame


Outstanding work!
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: tonyt on April 09, 2011, 08:53:37 PM
Unbelievable looking machine, your dad will be real happy. Great job, now you can relax.
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: PinPal on April 09, 2011, 08:59:05 PM
Wow that Volley looks fantastic ,,,, well done   #*#   @@*
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: ajlaird on April 09, 2011, 09:13:09 PM
Well done, great present and hope your Dad loves it!
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: Steevsee on April 09, 2011, 09:30:25 PM
That's one sweet looking machine.
I reckon your old man will be very pleased and proud of your efforts.
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: Steve2010 on April 09, 2011, 10:13:56 PM
Matt, absolutely SENSATIONAL effort and result. ^^^ ^^^ ^^^

Beautiful machine, and I'd imagine your father would be so very stoked!!  This is an inspiration for the rest of us ..... you've sort of set a lofty benchmark for the rest of us *%*
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: pinnies4me on April 09, 2011, 10:50:26 PM
Matt, and this is no disrespect to any of the great restorations others have shared, but that really is possibly the nicest I have ever seen. I can't wait to see it in the flesh on Monday.


Amazing work mate.
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: elkor-alish on April 10, 2011, 12:05:31 AM
I've been getting into the resto threads lately and this one is really cool.
The machine looks great and your story gave me a warm fuzzy feeling.
Not just because of the whole present for your Dad thing but the way everyone helped you to get it done in time.
Nice one, let us all know what your Dad thought of it.
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: Pintoxicated on April 10, 2011, 09:16:59 AM
WOW!!!!!

Friggin fantastic job.  I still get blown away by some of the work guys can do on their machines.

Matt, you should print out your post or make up another log of the resto and give that to your Dad as well so he can understand the effort that you have gone to with this.  I reckon it would bring a tear to his eye.
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: pinnies4me on April 10, 2011, 09:43:25 AM
Matt, you should print out your post or make up another log of the resto and give that to your Dad as well ..

Great idea.
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: oldpins on April 10, 2011, 09:56:47 AM
Excellence from start to finish ! Great restore post. A very, very happy birthday for Matt's Dad ! @@*

Greg
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: goodolddays on April 10, 2011, 10:25:23 AM
I think your Dad will be stoked at your gift . Excellent job on the restore  ^^^ ^^^
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: Pinfan on April 10, 2011, 11:42:00 AM
 ^^^

Nice work Matt !
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: bossninja17 on April 10, 2011, 01:09:25 PM
What an outstanding job!!! To have a Volley like that as part of the EM world makes it a better place.
I think what I should be doing to refresh my pins having looked at this resto.
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: Strangeways on April 10, 2011, 01:57:54 PM

Matt - that is simply outstanding. I remember seeing just the base coat and splatter and I was blown away. Surely the best resto I've seen in a long time. You Dad will be very pleased with the game. Well done mate !

I really hope you do more machines to this standard  ^^^
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: ktm450 on April 10, 2011, 03:43:14 PM
Thanks heaps guys!  *%*

Matt, you should print out your post or make up another log of the resto and give that to your Dad as well so he can understand the effort that you have gone to with this.  I reckon it would bring a tear to his eye.

I think I will do that, it is a bit hard to explain what was done just by looking at photos

I can't wait to see it in the flesh on Monday.

Hopefully it is all working for you too see, I still haven't turned it back on.  Going to set it up for freeplay this arvo then check everything is working again.


I really hope you do more machines to this standard  ^^^

Thanks mate, I didn't really have time to go 'all Nino' on it  *)* , but maybe one day I'll rebuild all the mechs and polish them up as well  *%*
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: ktm450 on April 11, 2011, 10:25:43 AM
Powered up last night, had a couple of drop target switches stuck on continuously advancing the 100s reel, found that fairly easily. 
Then none of the 10 point switches were working, but when manually activated the 10 point relay switches turned the reel and sounded the chime, after a bit of mucking around it ended up being only a loose plug, I had removed one above it in the back box to clean the pins which had pulled out the smaller one, it was sitting in the correct place but not pushed home  @.@

Here are a few shots from last night after I powered it up and had a few games  *%*


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(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallIMG_2982.jpg)

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Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: pinnies4me on April 11, 2011, 07:26:02 PM
Well I just got home from putting about a dozen games on this work of art! ^%^

This game is simply beautiful, Matt has done a sensation job in turning this thing into just about museum quality. Glad to see that paint worked so well, looking forward to letting my brother know about that too.

And does it play well!! Matt has it set at 4 degrees, maybe a half a degree or so over what Gottlieb said back in the day, and it works very well indeed. Ball speed (while a long way off a DMD of course) is reasonable, pretty close to the early solid state games. The shots are all working very nicely. In keeping with the theme, back-handing the left and right target banks is particularly satisfying.

Managed to double clock it before getting too excited and setting off the way too delicate tilt on my last ball. I'd still be there mesmerized by this game if Matt hadn't needed to shoo me off so he could get to work.

Wonderful game, restored like few others, a credit to Matt's dedication to this wonderful gift for his dad.  #*#
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: ktm450 on April 12, 2011, 02:14:45 PM
Thanks Nick for the kind words, glad you go a chance to check it out before it leaves my hands, can't believe you got over 200000, at least now I have a high score to aim for  :lol

Looking forward to giving it to Dad Thursday can't wait to see his reaction  *%*

Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: ktm450 on April 12, 2011, 06:08:15 PM
How many balls do you EM guys usually set your games to, this one was set to 5 balls but I almost triple clocked (sorry Nick, I pushed your initials out from the high scores  :lol )
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: pinnies4me on April 12, 2011, 06:11:04 PM
How many balls do you EM guys usually set your games to, this one was set to 5 balls but I almost triple clocked (sorry Nick, I pushed your initials out from the high scores  :lol )

 #*#
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: punter on April 12, 2011, 06:24:07 PM
Your dad is going to freak when he sees this,it looks great.I have mine set on 5 ball play,my highest score is just under 300k,but many times it is bugger all. @@*.
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: Retropin on April 12, 2011, 06:25:01 PM
How many balls do you EM guys usually set your games to, this one was set to 5 balls but I almost triple clocked (sorry Nick, I pushed your initials out from the high scores  :lol )


Depends on the EM... in all honesty some 70's EM Gottliebs are ball drainers straight down the guts between the flippers ( centre spinners or drops are a bad design)... these are set on 5 balls.
From recollection GTB TOP SCORE is the only game ive ever owned where i shot all 5 balls and didnt get to touch one of them with a flipper!

Sounds like VOLLEY is  a great game ... ive never yet played one, but with scores like that on 5 balls id be dropping it to 3
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: Strangeways on April 12, 2011, 08:06:58 PM

EMs were operated with 5 Balls per game. I never saw a 3 ball on location.

10 cents for 5 balls - What is it nowadays - $2 for 3 balls ?
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: big dog on April 12, 2011, 08:44:53 PM
The comps in the U S ,hilton/vegas are set on 3 ball for Volley,they get 250,000 around about..now thats much harder on 3 balls per game.At least on 5 balls you get to beat the game,I have mine set on 5 balls but only 235,000 is my best.
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: ktm450 on April 13, 2011, 01:35:28 PM
Thanks for the info guys, I'll see how well Dad plays after all these years to work it out, its nice if he can at least drop all targets in one game
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: Pintoxicated on April 13, 2011, 02:20:17 PM
See if you can get a pic of your Dad's face when he first lays on the machine, I'd love to see his face.
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: ktm450 on April 14, 2011, 10:50:07 AM
See if you can get a pic of your Dad's face when he first lays on the machine, I'd love to see his face.

I'll try my best  *%*
I have just taken it over there and started to set up on legs, I'll get back over there soon and make sure everything is working ok and get some pics.
Luckly Dad is at work today so we can set up and surprise him when he gets home.
My brother and sister-in-law are flying in from Gold Coast today for a surprise visit, then we will take him out for dinner and have organised a surprise family get together.
Should be a big night  **)
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: pinnies4me on April 14, 2011, 10:55:38 AM
Geez, that's a lot of surprises - his heart i good I hope?  :D
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: ktm450 on April 14, 2011, 04:37:50 PM
Geez, that's a lot of surprises - his heart i good I hope?  :D

Yeah, he's fine  :lol

Here is a pic all set up.  Looks great next to the bar  *%*

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallIMG_2989.jpg)
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on April 14, 2011, 10:16:16 PM
WOW that has turned out soooo nice!!

AWESOME job  ^^^ ^^^
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: Strangeways on April 14, 2011, 10:19:50 PM

Finally "at home" - and she looks SWEET !
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: pinnies4me on April 14, 2011, 10:32:47 PM

Finally "at home" - and she looks SWEET !

+1  ^^^
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: ktm450 on April 15, 2011, 12:19:58 PM
Well it was a big night, the 85% Absinthe came out later in the night, bad stuff!  **)  nursing a sore head today.  Dad got a big surprise when he came home from work, here is a photo of his reaction

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallIMG_2999.jpg)

(http://i1187.photobucket.com/albums/z397/stewart_clan/Gottlieb%20Volley%20Rebuild/smallIMG_3000.jpg)
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: pinnies4me on April 15, 2011, 02:15:53 PM
He's looking pretty stoked there Matt!  ^^^
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: Strangeways on April 16, 2011, 12:40:31 AM

The journey ends, the project was done on time and the smile says it all !

This, folks, is what pinball restoration is all about  ^^^
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: Steve2010 on April 16, 2011, 01:29:21 AM
Well done Matt, and this resto thread has really been a bit of journey.  A great read, and a great ending (but really just the beginning!)
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: ktm450 on April 17, 2011, 01:13:24 AM
Thanks guys, appeciate all the help and support along the way  *%*
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: ddstoys on April 17, 2011, 01:39:38 AM
How happy Is your dad thats so awsome to see well done
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: Pintoxicated on April 18, 2011, 07:50:26 PM
Good stuff.  Appears to be a genuine look of surprise and WTF!!!!!  Hope he enjoys it.
Title: Re: 1976 Gottlieb Volley Rebuild Complete
Post by: mark jackson on April 18, 2011, 09:19:24 PM
Absolutely fantastic restoration. I loved the way the webbing turned out, and your attention to detail. This is probably the best version of this game anywhere on Earth! Wow!