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Title: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 10, 2011, 03:04:22 PM
ok thanx to tony at pinball shed selling me a complete bargain and prety tidy swc machine.
Ill do a strip down of the playfield re- art the cab and head box. but everything else is prety shmiko, all working great,
the headbox will be swapped with new one supplied, as the old headbox has some swelling.
wil lpost before pictures very soon,
just having a few hours game play before i start, really happy with purchase, great game.
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 10, 2011, 03:54:23 PM
ok guy heres the what i have atm, will get some better pictures when i finish playing, only one plastic needs replacing so far and the goaly could be re-used but ill replace as there are plenty of them available on the net, rest are great and some new plastics were already installed, which makes life easy. oh and
playfield is prety good will need very little touchups, and should polish up very nicely
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 10, 2011, 04:26:06 PM
ok under the playfield is nice and clean all the mech work was already done with brand new flipper assembly's installed and many new coils added, after the playfield is striped and cleaned and everything goes back in, i will replace the kickout insert as its all faded and looks a bit average, no big deal really, wil lrekit the playfield with Led's to make it a bit more modern will be a combo of clear white,blue and purple led, instead of the current glass globes with yellow globe covers which looks a little tacky imo.
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 10, 2011, 04:39:24 PM
ok the inside cab is very dirty but its all just dirt and dust, will clean up easy. looks like it has been in storage with no playfield, so its collected allot of dust, Ill clean it out and seal it.
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 10, 2011, 10:36:02 PM
ok, striped down playfield and the missus is at work with the novus, im polishing all the bits and peices and this machine has allot of bits, the wire ramp was a sun of biatch to polish but its like new now, done a tonne of polishing and a tonne more togo.
sanded out the inside of the cab and its all painted.
will start with the new headboard latter but tonight is polish and more polish seeing the inside cab is done and wires are back in place. get this playfeild looking nice and back together, my days off are monday tuesdays, so thats what i will be doing on my days off i guess, will post pics soon. ps i am very much a amatuer so it wont be one of the best resto's in the world im still learning.
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 11, 2011, 01:41:10 AM
picture of inside cab now
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: goodolddays on October 11, 2011, 10:04:57 AM
Huge improvement there on the inside of the cab . Looking forward to some after pics of the playfield .
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 11, 2011, 12:18:18 PM
Huge improvement there on the inside of the cab . Looking forward to some after pics of the playfield .

thank you mate, yer the dirt and crap wasnt very nice. sanded it out and sealed it up.

ok here is the nasty bits of the machine.
as you can see some worn plastics, a broken plastic, a goalie that has done one to many saves. and rusty lock down bar.
and a little wear around this pop out whole with the worn plastic.
pretty much that is it on the playfield side. which im prety happy with. have ordered a new goalie and and few other plastics so that good
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: GORGAR 1 on October 11, 2011, 12:28:30 PM
Wow coming along very nice and its such a fun game how are the ramps? need replacing or just a good clean?

Peter
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 11, 2011, 12:40:09 PM
ramps are prety good actually, the decals on them are good, were a little yellow on the plastic but they polished up nice and clear, so that is helpfull, the wire ramp was horid, but that buffed up really awesome. mostly beside a clean the plastics are good except the ones shown above. most of the let down with the looks was dirty metal parts that just needed a buff, plus the crappy style screws they used to hold down plastics and ramps and what not, bally just used zinc screws and they looks shite now they have gone oxidised, going to go down the to the bolt shop and buy some stainless screws which will make it look allot nicer and in some places use some allan screws to really give some nice finish. the screws they used on these machines was a big let down as they are very visable.

and yes its a very fun game, i hate soccer big time but its made into a good pinball thats for sure.
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Strangeways on October 11, 2011, 12:53:34 PM

Looking good. Seems all the WCS94 games are filthy - but it will come up a treat - I'm sure  ^^^
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 11, 2011, 01:07:15 PM
lol yer, and the plastics that are crappy seem to be in the same places,
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: ddstoys on October 11, 2011, 02:19:28 PM
Looking good so far Jason
     This is a great game and well worth the effort.   I can't stand soccer but whenever I see one of tear inalways have a game.

     Cabinet has come up well look forward to the rest
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 12, 2011, 02:20:10 AM
Looking good so far Jason
     This is a great game and well worth the effort.   I can't stand soccer but whenever I see one of tear inalways have a game.

     Cabinet has come up well look forward to the rest

thank you mate,

also if any one is after a new soccer ball for their wcs94 they are back in stock http://www.marcospecialties.com/product.asp?ic=23%2D6709#
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 12, 2011, 08:28:15 PM
out of interest how do i change game from free play to normal play?
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: ddstoys on October 12, 2011, 10:44:37 PM
With the buttons inside the door there is an adjustment menu and a free play option.  It's piss easy just a matter of finding it
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 12, 2011, 10:58:46 PM
With the buttons inside the door there is an adjustment menu and a free play option.  It's piss easy just a matter of finding it

yer i found it, thought it was like the older games with dip switches on the board. but its all fancy this machine lol, oh i can even set the date, lol which is cool no Y2K bug on this machine it didnt explode when i set too 2011. lol
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 13, 2011, 11:25:18 PM
hey does any one happen to know of a very good or nos left hand lane flipper plastic for this machine? i thought i found one however it was a right hand, lol
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Strangeways on October 13, 2011, 11:56:05 PM
hey does any one happen to know of a very good or nos left hand lane flipper plastic for this machine? i thought i found one however it was a right hand, lol

Might have a leftover from mine ? I've bought a full plastics set. Let me check tomorrow.
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 14, 2011, 12:14:34 AM
hey does any one happen to know of a very good or nos left hand lane flipper plastic for this machine? i thought i found one however it was a right hand, lol

Might have a leftover from mine ? I've bought a full plastics set. Let me check tomorrow.

that would be awesome mate, if you do have one just send a pm with how much and postage costs cheers mate
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Strangeways on October 17, 2011, 11:56:14 AM

PM me your postal address - I have a present for you  *%*
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 17, 2011, 02:20:06 PM
pm sent mate cheers.

anyways this is my first dmd machine, and first with this opto board style flipper switch.
the flipper is a little twitchy very much the same as if a older style flipper switch wasnt making contact. so i got a cotton bud and cleaned the sensor, seemed to have helped a but still does it from time to time, are these opto boards for these machines cheap enough? or should i just keep cleaning it? what are people ideas do they just gunk up and die or they something that can clean up?
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Homepin on October 17, 2011, 02:52:44 PM
pm sent mate cheers.

anyways this is my first dmd machine, and first with this opto board style flipper switch.
the flipper is a little twitchy very much the same as if a older style flipper switch wasnt making contact. so i got a cotton bud and cleaned the sensor, seemed to have helped a but still does it from time to time, are these opto boards for these machines cheap enough? or should i just keep cleaning it? what are people ideas do they just gunk up and die or they something that can clean up?

If they are the 'Type 1' boards -

In stock - $34.50 a pair (for direct deposit - plus post)

Made in Australia!

http://www.homepin.com/fo.html

Check the pictures out - if they are type 2 they will be available in a few weeks
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 17, 2011, 03:05:10 PM
thank you for your reply homepin, no it inst that board, the board in my machine has two sensors, it has a plastic lever that has two inserts that sit infront of the sensors when you push the button, im guessign that is type two? the boards on my machine are very clean, but i did get a bit of black shit on the cotton tip when i cleaned it, it seemed to make it work better, might just need more of a clean im guessing. but if you make these boards in the future ill keep an eye out and should be interested, especially if i cant get in there good enough to clean the lenses. cheers
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 17, 2011, 05:29:03 PM
wooo hoooo. got my parcel from mr pinball today, really happy, got a new goalie in the mail, the selectors in my team have decided our old goalie was a little over used and worn, so the new guy takes to the field lol, any ways got a set of leg protectors as well.
now looking forward to my new soccer ball to show up from yanky land,
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Homepin on October 17, 2011, 09:49:41 PM
This is a type II board (they should be available in about a month)

(http://www.homepin.com/pics/type2.jpg)
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 17, 2011, 10:08:04 PM
yup thats the board i have cheers mate
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 24, 2011, 05:59:50 PM
ok dirty soccer ball before
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 24, 2011, 06:02:41 PM
ok new soccerball. these things are stupidly over priced for a peice of rubber. but unfortunatly its such a big part of the machine. an old crappy ball makes the whole machine look crap
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 26, 2011, 09:15:37 PM
quick question to those in the know, removing side rails and who sells them? as with most finishing parts on this model its very poor quality, the stainless on the rails is very cheap so its not so stainless, lol, thinks i might i replace them with new or very clean seconhandy's also chasing the front rail.
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: ajlaird on October 27, 2011, 07:51:40 AM
ok new soccerball. these things are stupidly over priced for a peice of rubber. but unfortunatly its such a big part of the machine. an old crappy ball makes the whole machine look crap

Have the pentagons and lines marked on the original soccer ball been touched up at some point? They look quite uneven, as though someone has used a marker to redo them?
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: ktm450 on October 27, 2011, 02:58:16 PM
Definately an 'aftermarket' mod   *)*
The original ones looked the same as the new ones except the black lines went all the way to the bottom of the ball
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 28, 2011, 05:13:10 PM
ok new soccerball. these things are stupidly over priced for a peice of rubber. but unfortunatly its such a big part of the machine. an old crappy ball makes the whole machine look crap

Have the pentagons and lines marked on the original soccer ball been touched up at some point? They look quite uneven, as though someone has used a marker to redo them?
yer mate some one hit them with some paint at some point, and like so many wcs games the ball had worn around the base. so hence why i bought a new ball. cheers

ok here we have a terminator headbox soon to be my wcs headbox, the back is all cracked as you can see, i have a sheet of board to replace the back, need to do some filling on the sides as there are chips and so on, it is in reasonable condition if you take the fact the back is foocked, lol im just about to the pry the back off and replace today and fill the chips up and get it ready for paint, will get some decals made up for the headbox to finish it.
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 28, 2011, 05:51:29 PM
Ok let the filling begin,

Here is something the holden boys will reconise seeing its a 100% genuine holden part, aka Bog. but to the ford guys here dont hold it against me for putting holden parts on my pinball,  lol
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 28, 2011, 07:41:55 PM
Old BOMBA went to allot of effort putting his name into this machine, lol was a nice deep engraving all filled up now sorry bomba
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: ddstoys on October 28, 2011, 09:29:59 PM
Good thing you know how to prep for paint them some nasty scratches by bomba....
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 28, 2011, 09:34:03 PM
this corner was the worst bit, the chip took out a few laminates in the timber, it had a prety hard knock at some point, anyways smooth as a babies bottom now, with all the chips, grafity, corners and edges all nice, its ready for a prime, and paint. back board just needs the vent holes cut out and mesh reinstalled. i turned the entire garage up side down looking for a hole saw. thats 2 hours of my life i want back and no bloody hole saw. ahhhhhhhh so a trip to the hardware on monday me thinks,
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 28, 2011, 09:59:41 PM
Good thing you know how to prep for paint them some nasty scratches by bomba....

"bomba" did a pretty good job, he is truely an artist he made it all the way through a veneer
i know these things headboxes are bolted together but they tend to leave a horid join, so i will wood glue the box together, sika the inside joins keep the bolts for authentic look and smooth over the joins outside so it looks one peice.

oh one question, if any one knows, is the orignal black on the wcs headbox matt black or gloss black
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Duckman on October 28, 2011, 10:24:57 PM

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oh one question, if any one knows, is the orignal black on the wcs headbox matt black or gloss black

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Tends to be half way between, I used satin black on mine but the brand that i used has since changed formula and is now more matt.
Still on the hunt for a good satin.  :tumble:
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on October 28, 2011, 10:40:21 PM


oh one question, if any one knows, is the orignal black on the wcs headbox matt black or gloss black

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Tends to be half way between, I used satin black on mine but the brand that i used has since changed formula and is now more matt.
Still on the hunt for a good satin.  :tumble:
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ok cheers is that from a can? i am going to hit it with the gun, i was considering 2 paking the bastard gloss, but might be a little too stand outish so might hit it with an acrylic satin or mat then, after i epoxy prime it.
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Duckman on October 28, 2011, 10:56:16 PM
It was, Plasticote was the brand. Made 5 minutes down the road from me in Nottinghill.  The changed the can years ago and then the paint itself a couple years back.....not impressed. ^.^

Have tried many brands in the meantime, from the $2 buck shop stuff to $20 a can and still can't quite get the right finish.
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on November 01, 2011, 07:47:42 PM
ok got a bit of work done on the old terminator headbox. now its ready for the swc decals. just need to get my old head box off and scanned. any ways need to stil ldrill out the vents, once the glue inside dry's ill mess around reinstalling the back plate for mounting the boards too. took a few hours getting good coat of paint, needed allot of primer that wood sucks the paint up, from factory they didnt take to much attention to detail on the wood finish, i can see why its sort of gloss and sort of mat finish they didnt use primer on the wood where they painted the black, infact they didnt even sand the wood, you can see the mill marks and its actually prety average qaulity in workmanship to be honest, so that took a a fair bit of sanding and prep, turned out good
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on November 01, 2011, 08:01:17 PM
incase wondering why i went to the trouble of fixing up another headbox, well this is only a small part of the reason, this pic shows how shite my current swc headbox is, lol
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on November 01, 2011, 09:04:00 PM
ok i cheated here a little. i was getting the shits with constantly filling and sanding the front edge, so i used the old iron on edge tape. much better finish any ways and bit more hard wearing.
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: ddstoys on November 01, 2011, 10:18:57 PM
Your doin well Mate
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on November 01, 2011, 10:39:45 PM
Your doin well Mate
cheers im trying lol. i cando all this sort of thing, but yer board side of things man i have no idea, I have bought this project with good running with only cosmetics and what not needing work.

Id love to be able to afford to replace the big high voltage decal on the back of the head box, like i have seen guys like nino replace i think it was on one of his projects, but i saw the price and on them and yer im not that keen, lol
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on November 02, 2011, 02:16:55 PM
ok im now chasing down an earth strap for one of these machine, any one have this stuf?
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: ddstoys on November 02, 2011, 02:24:46 PM
Just the braid or the ones with te yellow plastic
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on November 02, 2011, 02:30:28 PM
the braid is what this has in the headbox, but the yellow plastic looks better, lol mate but im not too picky so either i guess. this isnt the heavy guage stuff, like the older machines ive noticed. i was going to reuse the stuff from the swc headbox, but i have beaky coming to change the boards over for me, so im thinking i might do new strap ready for the board change over. and out of interest does the metal backing that mounts the boards to the box on terminator would it be the same as the wcs? do they use the same boards? if so i mi8ght reinstall the one form the terminator if not ill leave it. cheers
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on November 02, 2011, 06:25:10 PM
ok vent holes finally cut out, the backboard was in good enough nick to use as a template so got them bang on. and the steel mesh from it was just dirty, not rusty and crap so i can reuse that so that is a bonus, it really does need the high voltage decal on the back to break the color up, but they are expensive
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on November 11, 2011, 03:38:17 PM
the postman was very good to me today. and thanx to Jady and ddstoys i have some new fancy bling to add to my machine.
new ramp and new side rails,
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on November 18, 2011, 06:59:30 PM
ok this could be used to kill vampires maybe? but it worked well to remove the side rails, took 10mins and both off, the plastic welder with the wide heat tip heated the tape up nice and hot and the rails virtually fell off. thanks to some advice here on heating the rails up to looses the glue on the tape
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on November 18, 2011, 08:13:53 PM
well new rails on, rails are a bloody good investment in making the machine look better,nice shiny metal is always nice,
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: Olivia_jason on December 09, 2011, 10:20:56 PM
ok shit pictures sorry, anyways after help from Beaky, we swapped over my boards into my new headbox which i fixed up. all worked great looks a tonne better not having water damged headbox, now i need decals for the headbox, will get my old ones scanned seeing its no longer on the machine and put on my new headbox.
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: beaky on December 10, 2011, 02:07:36 AM
Glad I could help
Title: Re: SWC 94 resto
Post by: goodolddays on December 10, 2011, 09:16:13 AM
Keep up the good work