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Title: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: pinball god on November 26, 2011, 04:17:47 PM
Retropin made a comment about how it was great that mr pinball doesn't have the gig for Williams anymore. I won't comment on that because I was wondering if anything has changed with the new guy in town planetary pinball?

I haven't dealt with them at all but looking at pricing ages ago when he first took over, things looked the same.

Would be great to hear how these guys compare. Btw I did be a not so nice lette from them about an eBay listing I had that sounded very close to waynes ones but I sorted that out quickly and with no fuss.
Title: Re: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: Homepin on November 26, 2011, 05:17:29 PM
Retropin made a comment about how it was great that mr pinball doesn't have the gig for Williams anymore. I won't comment on that because I was wondering if anything has changed with the new guy in town planetary pinball?

I haven't dealt with them at all but looking at pricing ages ago when he first took over, things looked the same.

Would be great to hear how these guys compare. Btw I did be a not so nice lette from them about an eBay listing I had that sounded very close to waynes ones but I sorted that out quickly and with no fuss.

Nothing to do with price or stock availability but EVERYTHING to do with attitude and overall arseholeness........
Title: Re: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: Boots on November 26, 2011, 05:57:56 PM
Retropin made a comment about how it was great that mr pinball doesn't have the gig for Williams anymore. I won't comment on that because I was wondering if anything has changed with the new guy in town planetary pinball?

I haven't dealt with them at all but looking at pricing ages ago when he first took over, things looked the same.

Would be great to hear how these guys compare. Btw I did be a not so nice lette from them about an eBay listing I had that sounded very close to waynes ones but I sorted that out quickly and with no fuss.

Nothing to do with price or stock availability but EVERYTHING to do with attitude and overall arseholeness........

Personally never had that much trouble.
Bits I ordered always arrived on time and in top condition.
Maybe a bit grumpy????
Title: Re: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: GORGAR 1 on November 26, 2011, 07:27:36 PM
Never had any trouble always arrived on time and any problems sorted straight away.

Peter
Title: Re: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: Retropin on November 26, 2011, 07:32:03 PM
Havent used the new guys.. had SOME dealings with the old, but because i publicly supported the making of Coconut Island, i get this sort of email from the old..

QUOTE:

Go **** Yourself
LOL!! I think the other "pinball manufacturers" in melbourne are just too tied up delivering fake legal notices.

Congratulations guys - looking forward to seeing CI in the flesh

Lets see how fake they are when you offer something you shouldn't.

Unlike your mates I have the money to burn on Legal Fees,

there will be no way I will approve anything for you

You can go **** yourself


As for POS CI, uses Bally Williams parts and a used Judge Dredd Cabinet, has no animations and will never make it to production mainstream.



Couldnt really see a way forward from there   !@#
Title: Re: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: Homepin on November 26, 2011, 07:57:40 PM
hahahaha - that's TAME! You should see mine!!! I'll bet mines 'bigger than yours'  %.% %.%

Oh - I already mentioned that it had NOTHING to do with parts or supply or availability - I too have purchased from said 'person' but strictly when it suited ME only.


Havent used the new guys.. had SOME dealings with the old, but because i publicly supported the making of Coconut Island, i get this sort of email from the old..

QUOTE:

Go **** Yourself
LOL!! I think the other "pinball manufacturers" in melbourne are just too tied up delivering fake legal notices.

Congratulations guys - looking forward to seeing CI in the flesh

Lets see how fake they are when you offer something you shouldn't.

Unlike your mates I have the money to burn on Legal Fees,

there will be no way I will approve anything for you

You can go **** yourself


As for POS CI, uses Bally Williams parts and a used Judge Dredd Cabinet, has no animations and will never make it to production mainstream.



Couldnt really see a way forward from there   !@#
Title: Re: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: ddstoys on November 26, 2011, 08:11:40 PM
Charming  *!@   I might be wrong but didnt COCONUT ISLAND get finished nope im pretty sure it did.   who else can say they have finished a machine like that.   BLOODY AMAZING
Title: Re: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: Caveoftreasures on November 26, 2011, 08:14:51 PM
Planetary Pinball prices have definately risen on most parts since the rights were sold back to the USA. Its cheaper to buy direct from Wayne compared to going overseas.

I always suspected the prices would increase once the USA company took over so to speak. Still makes sense to shop in melbourne and save $$.  ^^^
Title: Re: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: pinnies4me on November 26, 2011, 08:19:50 PM
Charming  *!@   I might be wrong but didnt COCONUT ISLAND get finished nope im pretty sure it did.   who else can say they have finished a machine like that.   BLOODY AMAZING

Lol!! Didn't realise that email went to more than just me!

There are so many funny things I could say, but I promised myself that I would not be bothered with all that, and Nug and I finished it and showed it as the "Expo" (for want of another description - oh - "container auction", that will do).


Title: Re: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: Retropin on November 26, 2011, 08:22:30 PM
Charming  *!@   I might be wrong but didnt COCONUT ISLAND get finished nope im pretty sure it did.   who else can say they have finished a machine like that.   BLOODY AMAZING

Lol!! Didn't realise that email went to more than just me!

There are so many funny things I could say, but I promised myself that I would not be bothered with all that, and Nug and I finished it and showed it as the "Expo" (for want of another de******ion - oh - "container auction", that will do).





And there was me thinking i got special treatment... %.% %.%
Title: Re: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: pinnies4me on November 26, 2011, 09:09:40 PM
And there was me thinking i got special treatment... %.% %.%

Sorry mate, I think that one did the round.

I'm looking on some old hard drives for some pics.....
Title: Re: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: pinball god on November 26, 2011, 10:00:29 PM
Havent used the new guys.. had SOME dealings with the old, but because i publicly supported the making of Coconut Island, i get this sort of email from the old..

QUOTE:

Go **** Yourself
LOL!! I think the other "pinball manufacturers" in melbourne are just too tied up delivering fake legal notices.

Congratulations guys - looking forward to seeing CI in the flesh

Lets see how fake they are when you offer something you shouldn't.

Unlike your mates I have the money to burn on Legal Fees,

there will be no way I will approve anything for you

You can go **** yourself


As for POS CI, uses Bally Williams parts and a used Judge Dredd Cabinet, has no animations and will never make it to production mainstream.



Couldnt really see a way forward from there   !@#
Ooooops, now that sounds a little harsh %.% I reckon you and he who must not be named should get together on Dr Phil or even better the American guy....forget his name....you know who has all the trailer trash gals on who have slept with their grand fathers mothers uncles middle brother etc etc
Title: Re: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: Retropin on November 26, 2011, 10:34:16 PM
The background to this was that i was seeking permission to distribute BALLY/WMS cabinet stencils..... this man approved on conditions.
First was a royalty fee.. this was OK.
next royalty fee went up... this had me wondering.
Then i was to supply him all my files for verification.... not stencils or PDFs of the files etc, but the actual vector files themselves... this i said outright NO to.
Then i got the email.
Then i approached WMS directly and it transpires that WMS have NEVER given permission for ANY stencils to be produced and the fact that they existed was news to them.
So "our man" who cant be named didnt have the rights to dick squat in the first place.. and for me to just hand over my files???? Er... like im really friggin stupid?

So why am i telling all this and posting the actual email?
Well, since losing the rights he has transformed into a nice guy... now as far as im concerned he can do business how he wants with who he wants these days.. makes no difference to me, but i dont deal with toads, slime bags etc.
I hope the new owner/ distributors are very different... i cant say, ive had no dealings with them... but i can say that the old owners were an absolute PR nightmare for WMS and any change in ownership can only be for the better   ^^^
Title: Re: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: Homepin on November 26, 2011, 10:43:46 PM
The background to this was that i was seeking permission to distribute BALLY/WMS cabinet stencils..... this man approved on conditions.
First was a royalty fee.. this was OK.
next royalty fee went up... this had me wondering.
Then i was to supply him all my files for verification.... not stencils or PDFs of the files etc, but the actual vector files themselves... this i said outright NO to.
Then i got the email.
Then i approached WMS directly and it transpires that WMS have NEVER given permission for ANY stencils to be produced and the fact that they existed was news to them.
So "our man" who cant be named didnt have the rights to dick squat in the first place.. and for me to just hand over my files???? Er... like im really friggin stupid?

So why am i telling all this and posting the actual email?
Well, since losing the rights he has transformed into a nice guy... now as far as im concerned he can do business how he wants with who he wants these days.. makes no difference to me, but i dont deal with toads, slime bags etc.
I hope the new owner/ distributors are very different... i cant say, ive had no dealings with them... but i can say that the old owners were an absolute PR nightmare for WMS and any change in ownership can only be for the better   ^^^

what he said times 2000!
Title: Re: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: Strangeways on November 26, 2011, 11:46:29 PM
Williams were VERY glad the rights went back to the USA.

Now please don't let Wotto see this thread - ok ?
Title: Re: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: pinball god on November 27, 2011, 03:50:13 AM
Williams were VERY glad the rights went back to the USA.

Now please don't let Wotto see this thread - ok ?
Wotto PM sent.


Only joking....sorry retropin I'm sorry for bringing up the thread....I only wanted to know how the new guys were. I have now change my opinion of he who should not be named.

Btw do you have any problem wth me writing a series of novels that involve a guy in hogwarts and some scrag a red headed guy wants to pork?

Thanks
Title: Re: Wms/Bally distributor
Post by: Retropin on November 27, 2011, 10:27:37 AM
Williams were VERY glad the rights went back to the USA.

Now please don't let Wotto see this thread - ok ?
Wotto PM sent.


Only joking....sorry retropin I'm sorry for bringing up the thread....I only wanted to know how the new guys were. I have now change my opinion of he who should not be named.

Btw do you have any problem wth me writing a series of novels that involve a guy in hogwarts and some scrag a red headed guy wants to pork?

Thanks


No mate.. im glad you did bring up the thread... ive kept all this from the majority of people and believe me my interactions are tame compared to some. This thread did allow me to make everything public though and im glad i got the opportunity to do so... been waiting for a moment like this to come up  ^^^

The man is purely about business not pinball and he aint no nice man either... but then again.. pinball dealers, car salesmen etc... there arent many that wont try and shaft you