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Aussie Pinball Forums => General Discussion => General Pinball Discussion => Topic started by: Caveoftreasures on January 18, 2012, 07:59:58 PM
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Well, a few lucky members who have ordered a AC/DC Pinball.
I dont think a title has been so highly anticipated than this title, and many people have good, bad, or undecided neutral feelings towards the machines because no-one has seen one in the flesh yet ! ALOT of people are just die-ing to see one in the flesh and play it and hear the great music and see what it plays like !
Probably the most wanted pinball EVER by Aussie Collectors !
If you have ordered one, add ya name to the "ordered" list below, including which model u have ordered ! and any comments u would like to add about why you ordered it and what u like or dont like, and what you are liking the most.
I have decided to give the Pro model a go at $5950 (and have ordered one today) because of the video I just saw, and also, a few sneak peak photos someone slipped me from a machine that was on a test site overseas. I dont think it will ever be a hard machine to sell, and the waiting lists are getting longer so i have taken a punt. The music won me over in the end, and I will live with the colours which will probably be much better in the flesh.
Who has ordered a AC/DC Pinball ?
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I've ordered a LE back in black can't wait, awesome title I'm a massive ac/dc fan and knew with Steve designing this there would be speed and flow that's what I like in pinball roll on march
Peter
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Hi Cave of Treasures,
Great to hear you bought the Pro model Ac/Dc pinball. I'm sure you will be happy with your decision and as you said, you should have no trouble moving it on if you wanted to upgrade to the premium model at a later date. Bang for buck, I think there is good value there. I think many more people will follow your suit soon and buy a Pro Or Premium model. AC/Dc pinball ROCKS!!!!
Regards,
Joe Tripoli
Kids Just Wanna Have FUn Amusement Hire Perth
www.amusements4kids.com.au
0408 855722
Official Stern Agent For Western Australia
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Thanks Joe,
At $5950, this is the lowest cost buy in option for a BRAND NEW STERN AC/DC. You have to say it over and over again, because thats about $1000 or $1500 cheaper than what it usually costs to get into a Brand New Stern, so financially, it makes ALOT of sense. I was very hesitant at first, and thought the machines colours were not 100 percent to my liking, but face it, if i didnt have something to complain about, the price would be alot higher.lol
The video of the machine, shows the reds to be alot more red than the browny colours i previously thought, so i dont mind admitting i was wrong about the cabinet colours. I NOW see why they have used the big head/face on the playfield, cause it is needed for the under playfield for the other models. ^^^
I am not a rich man, I work like a dog for my weekly and monthly income, like all the other members on here, but at $5950, and with it being a Brand New machine, and a machine that should have good interest for resale, I think if anyone is going to buy a New in Box, this would have to be it. Seeing other people play it will be the fun.
To all the lucky buggers who bought the LE models, well done. ! Thanks for the updates Joe about the Premium models. ^^^
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1 LE Black
1 LE let there be rock
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1 LE Black
1 LE let there be rock
If they breed you will have 1 LE Blackrock...cool!
:D
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I am putting an order in tomorrow for the Premium version with a shaker motor included.
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wow this machine is dominating the pinball realm atm, every second thread, thats great for pinball, i hope many of these pins get sited, the more out being played the better for the industry
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Spoke to Bruce again today from AMD in Sydney cause he is the closest for me to buy from.
ALOT of people are ordering the $5,950 Pro Model. The phone is ringing hot. Deposits on the Pro and Premium models is only around $1900 and $2000 for a March 'ish delivery.
I have put my name down to fly to Sydney for the AC/DC Pinball release party so hopefully I will be able to go. If I do, i will take some photos and a video if Bruce doesnt mind. The venue/party is very close to maximum numbers and Bruce mentioned they are doing something special for the distributors with Tournament set up's for Operators to run as part of their Stern dealerships/businesses. Some new and exciting other surprises also happening on the night. I think it will be fun to fly down from QLD and have a look. I have another member in mind who I was thinking of surprising with a few airtickets if I get the 2 x spots confirmed. &&
I decided to save 2 grand by buying the PRO model, so i can put the saved 2 grand (compared to the premium model) towards another NEW Stern that I am arranging with Bruce hopefully. I have asked if Bruce can get a New in Box other title for me that STERN has in the USA that no-one has in stock in Australia, but a few are sitting at the STERN factory, and hopefully Bruce can get one thrown into the AC/DC pinny container when that batch comes out. If i get the nod tomorrow or Monday, I will be placing another deposit down for that surprise STERN title.
I will share some more news tomorrow after i speak with Bruce again about some of the upgrade prices for both the AC/DC and other title pinnys. It also sems everyone is upgrading for the shaker motor, and alot of people are telling me that they will be adding mirror blades to the AC/DC pin and a backboard mirror for the pro model etc etc.
I have decided on a few bling items to jazz up my Pro model straight from the get go.
QUESTION - for the guys who have ordered a AC/DC pinny, who is spending the few hundred on the coin mech/coin door option, and who is leaving it out ?
P.S - delivery from Sydney to QLD was $200 overnight. ^^^
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I'm still in two minds if I was ever going to get a new in box it would have to be this one. Basic one would be my only real option but what to sell??? My two cars arnt worth $6000 %.%
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I'm still in two minds if I was ever going to get a new in box it would have to be this one. Basic one would be my only real option but what to sell??? My two cars arnt worth $6000 %.%
you could get $50 for your monaro, thats a good start, oh im sorry mate i had to have a dig at the holden man lol
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I have come up with a MAD idea, a mod for my Pro model AC/DC pin when it arrives. Basically, i will have it made/worked out before the machine arrives. The mod has to do with the legs. One part will be a very quick to do add on, and the other part will be a quick reworking/re-manufacture part to the leg which i worked out today with a local steel company.. I wont give too much away, as I want to make it work on the machine, and then video and photograph it for the forum etc and introduce it as the first MAD mod to do to a AC/DC pinny. Ithink it will look great and just be very very eye catching, nothing you cant reverse, sort of.. #@#
Can anyone think of any great mods to add to their AC/DC pinball. !@#
I was thinking a electric guitar sitting on the top of the headbox as a really cool topper with some leds inserted into the guitar etc. Go all out i reckon. AND i will try n set the world record for how loud you can turn a pinball machines volume way way up. *)* *)*
Anyone got any bling or mod ideas or toppers for the AC/DC pinny ? !@#
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f**k the shaker i wanna get a real brass bell
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1 BIBLE for me
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Stern should be applauded for executing this tittle. A winner for both pinball collectors (NIB status) and operators (definitely going to make money with that ball drain straight down the middle).
Looking forward in reading your stories guys.
Ps - any Vic members thinking of selling their CV to finance this new Stern title, feel free to pm me.
Stephen.
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Coin mech didn't think of that &^& does door just have coin slots but no mech?
Peter
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correct Pete. You have to pay $210 from memory.Bruce asked me if i wanted the coin mech and mentioned the price etc. The shaker motor can be added anytime etc.
I would rather have the shaker motor come seperate, its very easy to fit, anyone can do it in 15 minutes i am told. I would fit it later than the have the machine get pulled out of the box to get it added etc by someone else. I am sure STERN will make some with the shakers already done, but Bruce says he adds the coin mechs here mostly, although, again, some can be added at factory.
I am waiting to see if the std pro model comes with the slide rails or just the pegs. I will find out tomorrow.
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correct Pete. You have to pay $210 from memory.Bruce asked me if i wanted the coin mech and mentioned the price etc. The shaker motor can be added anytime etc.
I would rather have the shaker motor come seperate, its very easy to fit, anyone can do it in 15 minutes i am told. I would fit it later than the have the machine get pulled out of the box to get it added etc by someone else. I am sure STERN will make some with the shakers already done, but Bruce says he adds the coin mechs here mostly, although, again, some can be added at factory.
I am waiting to see if the std pro model comes with the slide rails or just the pegs. I will find out tomorrow.
All recent Sterns,ie standards have come out with pegs.
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"I have finally decided Stern is doomed for all time. If they have farked up this release, nothing else ever has a chance of getting off the ground.
Now you have bought one? #@#
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Yes, adding a shaker motor is quick and easy
The only problem is drilling holes in your NIB machine
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"I have finally decided Stern is doomed for all time. If they have farked up this release, nothing else ever has a chance of getting off the ground.
Now you have bought one? #@#
yes, I am a fickle bastard. I can change my mind very quickly if i get more information that changes the ball game. It was the video i saw in High definition of the AC/DC game being played. The reds are red and not brown like the photos mostly show. I still reckon the head on the playfield is really ugly, but i now see why they did it, because of the other models that need this big head shape to insert the small under sided playfield.
I actually watched about 4 hours of youtube videos of angus etc and bon scott in the old days. after doing that, i thought i would definately change my mind. This will be the first New In Box Stern i would have bought, and whilst I am unsure about how it will play and feel, its more about seeing if i like the technology and feel of these new machines. I have been trying to buy a Avatar locally for the right price and it hasnt come to fruition, hence the decision to go with the AC/DC. Quite a few friends who cant afford to buy one, have said I shld buy one so they can play it as well. That was the deciding factor. Any excuse to get the guys around to play pinball.
I dont think Stern is doomed for all time, well, not today anyway. I did think that the other day, cause I was miffed as to why they would dominate the PRO AC/DC playfield with the ugly head, but i didnt know about the other models at that stage. Thats my fault. I think STERN will go back into the doomed market again if they dont make the PRO models of their releases more interesting with more great features and toys. STERN cant carry on business and keep healthy $$ just by charging 9 thousand dollars for a LE version by adding a few plastic bits. They will have to up their game like I honestly believe they did with the Excellent TRANSFORMERS pinball title.
Yes, I often change my mind. Head like a scrambled egg after too many long hours at work. :D ^^^ P.S - the $5950 price tag was also a massive decider. If it was say $7250, it would have been a big NO.
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none for me dont know wether it's a player or not + the face in the middle of the playfield looks real ugly
just had a look at the stern website plenty of pics there
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Went to see Bruce today and put my order in for the Premium version with shaker motor fitted.Stern will not fit the shaker motors in this model as Bruce rang to check if they would do it before they were shipped.My wife and myself had a game on an LE Transformers and first impressions for us both was that it is a real nice game to play also.
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"I have finally decided Stern is doomed for all time. If they have farked up this release, nothing else ever has a chance of getting off the ground.
Now you have bought one? #@#
yes, I am a fickle bastard. I can change my mind very quickly if i get more information that changes the ball game. It was the video i saw in High definition of the AC/DC game being played. The reds are red and not brown like the photos mostly show. I still reckon the head on the playfield is really ugly, but i now see why they did it, because of the other models that need this big head shape to insert the small under sided playfield.
I actually watched about 4 hours of youtube videos of angus etc and bon scott in the old days. after doing that, i thought i would definately change my mind. This will be the first New In Box Stern i would have bought, and whilst I am unsure about how it will play and feel, its more about seeing if i like the technology and feel of these new machines. I have been trying to buy a Avatar locally for the right price and it hasnt come to fruition, hence the decision to go with the AC/DC. Quite a few friends who cant afford to buy one, have said I shld buy one so they can play it as well. That was the deciding factor. Any excuse to get the guys around to play pinball.
I dont think Stern is doomed for all time, well, not today anyway. I did think that the other day, cause I was miffed as to why they would dominate the PRO AC/DC playfield with the ugly head, but i didnt know about the other models at that stage. Thats my fault. I think STERN will go back into the doomed market again if they dont make the PRO models of their releases more interesting with more great features and toys. STERN cant carry on business and keep healthy $$ just by charging 9 thousand dollars for a LE version by adding a few plastic bits. They will have to up their game like I honestly believe they did with the Excellent TRANSFORMERS pinball title.
Yes, I often change my mind. Head like a scrambled egg after too many long hours at work. :D ^^^ P.S - the $5950 price tag was also a massive decider. If it was say $7250, it would have been a big NO.
i has turned out great, i can see why you changed your mind, ^^^
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Went to see Bruce today and put my order in for the Premium version with shaker motor fitted.Stern will not fit the shaker motors in this model as Bruce rang to check if they would do it before they were shipped.My wife and myself had a game on an LE Transformers and first impressions for us both was that it is a real nice game to play also.
Doesnt Transformers look great. The audio is great, and they have done some amazing work with the dot matrix programming, which is very technical on this model. Transformers is a big step up.
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I might wait for Costco to have a sale before I buy one..
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I'm hearing very good things about the costco version, I really hope it lives up to the hype.
:D
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I decided to save 2 grand by buying the PRO model, so i can put the saved 2 grand (compared to the premium model) towards another NEW Stern that I am arranging with Bruce hopefully. I have asked if Bruce can get a New in Box other title for me that STERN has in the USA that no-one has in stock in Australia, but a few are sitting at the STERN factory, and hopefully Bruce can get one thrown into the AC/DC pinny container when that batch comes out. If i get the nod tomorrow or Monday, I will be placing another deposit down for that surprise STERN title.
Any news on this? I am very interested to know what title it is?
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I decided to save 2 grand by buying the PRO model, so i can put the saved 2 grand (compared to the premium model) towards another NEW Stern that I am arranging with Bruce hopefully. I have asked if Bruce can get a New in Box other title for me that STERN has in the USA that no-one has in stock in Australia, but a few are sitting at the STERN factory, and hopefully Bruce can get one thrown into the AC/DC pinny container when that batch comes out. If i get the nod tomorrow or Monday, I will be placing another deposit down for that surprise STERN title.
Any news on this? I am very interested to know what title it is?
I got a email today from Bruce about the "2nd un-named" title that is available for me and he gave me a price too.
I have 2 decide this weekend if I will spend the extra 7 grand..... on this surprise title, or if I buy the Transformers with the AC/DC model. I have to think long n hard this weekend. I have always thought it would be nice to walk around the Stern factory, looking for a new in box model sitting down the back left over ready to ship. #@#
Unfortunately, I have just paid out another 7 grand cash yesterday for a medical operation I am getting on the 20th Feb at a private hospital. Oucchh.
I will make a "will" leaving my collection to all the members on the forum if the anesthetic Dr doesnt like me ! Stay tuned for the surprise other title once i decide. I sort of got bored collecting older dmd pinnys, so why not look at a few new sterns this year to finish off. there goes the superannuation. i will also sell some to buy some i think. maybe smarter to do that given the economic climate is a bit euro.
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a few people chasing Avatars,,, not sure why !@#
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gameworks up here just sold 4 or 5 Avatars and a few blokes who bought them were very happy. another 4 or so people bought ironmans and were equally as happy. it has had a knock on effect. its not the "other" one i have decided on.... #@# beautiful looking machines both Avatar and Ironman. both look friggin nice.
anyone got any AC/DC photos of the 2 x LE models yet ?
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+1
Not a fan of this pin or the film it came from.
I tried to like the pinball and have played it many times ...... I just couldn't get into it... (((
Maybe you get a free trip to Pandora instead of a free shaker motor and leg protectors?
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WOW,hasnt this thread gone off track, any others members purchased an ACDC?
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it doesnt matter if it goes off track here n there. its all about comparing other new sterns to the AC/DC pin etc. best to have a thread with a few snakes n ladders, than no thread at all.
also, i have had 3 members tell me they have also ordered AC/DC Pro models and are keeping quiet about it as they want to surprise their otherpinball friends with a surprise New in box opening party, which is always fun. the funny thing is, that the 3 blokes are all mates, so they will be surprising each other with new in box openings too which will be fun as well.
alot of people are also selling machines to fund their new AC/DC purchases, which they won't announce til they definately have money in hand to make the new stern purchase. hopefully, we will have half a dozen AP members all taking photos/videos of their AC/DC machines all being opened n played for the first time. lots of fun ahead for all members to enjoy. thats what its about. ^^^
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WOW,hasnt this thread gone off track, any others members purchased an ACDC?
you used to be a lot nicer David
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WOW,hasnt this thread gone off track, any others members purchased an ACDC?
you used to be a lot nicer David
you used to answer your phone,now ACDC......
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I have never seen this much hype over a pinball machine before, it's pretty mental...this is the same type of hype in relevance of course before star wars ep1 was released in cinemas( a LOT more fans than this were going Nuts!...unfortunatley the film sucked big time other than the last 20 mins!) ...what a bummer that turned out to be.
Hype is very easily generated!
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When I open my NIB the first song I will be selecting is Hells Bells, my room will be decked out in AC/DC posters and a DVD will play on the LCD screen and I'm going to have a ball-It was good having a chat Friday Dave(Silverball) how excited where we lol.
Peter
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Just to get all those getting a AC/DC excited, there is a show on ABC2 - Video Killed the Radio Star - AC/DC tonight at 7pm (30 minute show).
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^^^ I am going to take a video of the unboxing ceremony for my AC/DC. I was going to ask a few of my local AP mates around and get them to be a part of it, have a few alcoholic beverages, as well as draw a name from the hat, and let one of the other guys have the first game and switch machine on etc.
that sounds like a bit of fun to share around anyway. something different. ^^^
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WOW,hasnt this thread gone off track, any others members purchased an ACDC?
you used to be a lot nicer David
you used to answer your phone,now ACDC......
as I said David....you used to be a lot nicer
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I sold my INDIANNA JONES WIDEBODY today to pay for the AC/DC. !!! !!! !!! Because the economy is a bit Euro (or might be during the year) I decided to fund the new STERN with the sale of the Indy. A big thankyou to AP member Mickthepin for being a great buyer. ...and , this is the first pinball machine I have EVER sold ! Blasfamy.lol
Although I could have sold other titles to buy the AC/DC, Mick asked me if I knew anyone who was selling a Indy, and only a Indy , so it worked out well for both parties, a spur of the moment, quick sale for me. Since the private hospital just got apx 7 g's large outta me, I thought it wouldnt hurt selling a few to fund a few.
I might sell my BK2000 ! (more blasfamy) !!! !!! !!! and maybe some others I have in great condition for another NIB STERN title. !@# !!! !!! Lots of great STERN titles to choose from. AVATAR LE or TRON LE, or a Ironman. OR a PREMIUM AC?DC to go with a PRO AC/DC ?
Would anyone on here ever think about both AC/DC models if money wasnt a hassle (30 million lotto on soon Lads, we all might win a dollar yet). I dont pray, ever, unless its at the newsagency whilst checking the Lotto tickets. ^^^ %.% %.% %.% %.%
(to throw in a curve ball, what abvout going to the Casino and playing red/black on the roulette and doubling up and making 7 grand in one minute (a new Stern) or losing 7 grand in one minute. ?... hmmm, i need some elephant balls and half a bottle of Jim Beam. thinking..thinking...thinking.. %.% %.%)
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It's about bloody time Brett one had to go sooner or later. I hate selling any games even if I buy them to resell lol
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Spoke to a few people today who said they have ordered 2 x the LE models of AC/DC and reckon they are going to keep 1 x machine on ice, never opened, and wait 6 or 12 months and try n sell it for a nice FAT profit.
anyone here thinking of buying one to play (LE) and keeping one in box to make a profit on never opened resale. A few people have done it with Spiderman Blacks and have made some serious coin !
Pete, I am die-ing to see the artwork on both the 2 x LE models. (hope its great and not something weird like a Maverick (lol. @.@ %.% %.%). I think the Back in Black will be a stunner.
Has anyone asked to be on the LE Cancel List" incase someone pulls out so u can buy one, or will the dealers just sit on these and sell later for a fifty percent profit. &&
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Spoke to a few people today who said they have ordered 2 x the LE models of AC/DC and reckon they are going to keep 1 x machine on ice, never opened, and wait 6 or 12 months and try n sell it for a nice FAT profit.
anyone here thinking of buying one to play (LE) and keeping one in box to make a profit on never opened resale. A few people have done it with Spiderman Blacks and have made some serious coin !
Pete, I am die-ing to see the artwork on both the 2 x LE models. (hope its great and not something weird like a Maverick (lol. @.@ %.% %.%). I think the Back in Black will be a stunner.
Has anyone asked to be on the LE Cancel List" incase someone pulls out so u can buy one, or will the dealers just sit on these and sell later for a fifty percent profit. &&
I too have heard that story of making some coin on the 2nd LE why not if your cashed up then well done-I just can't wait to get my Back in Black home should I buy some leg protectors? some cloth to put over the leg bolt so the socket doesn't wreck the bolt? ask anyone helping to wear gloves? am I over reacting?
Peter
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If I do end up getting one It will end up a work bench in the first month.
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Black LE for me #*# would have loved one of each, but anyway....
selling that first pin is the hardest, it does get easier after that
especially when there is a new one on the way
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Black LE for me #*# would have loved one of each, but anyway....
selling that first pin is the hardest, it does get easier after that
especially when there is a new one on the way
Well done mate,first impressions for me is that it is a fast playing game,with a nice open playfield.We have only seen the Pro version so far and it plays great.The main thing i like about the LE and Premium versions are the drop targets,this is what swayed me into buying one.Stern have finally released a title thats got some old school play about it,and thats what i like in a pin.I would not buy a one dimensional pin in regards to hitting the same thing over and over on the playfield as the main focus point.I have had 10k in my pinball fund for months,and had looked at and considered many titles,i do like LOTR,IM,CV but i kept waiting for ACDC to be reveiled.The choice for me was easy as if you lined all of these title up,for me i like the layout ect on ACDC.Sorry to hijack your post,but nice pick up and enjoy ^^^.
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Is it just me or does this version have a very similar layout to T2?
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yes, similar layout to a Terminator 2 by the looks of it.
I think it will play really fast. with the music cranked up, bouban and coke strapped to ya back like a professional hiker, it shld all be good. $&& $&& **) $%$
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Black LE for me #*# would have loved one of each, but anyway....
selling that first pin is the hardest, it does get easier after that
especially when there is a new one on the way
Well done mate,first impressions for me is that it is a fast playing game,with a nice open playfield.We have only seen the Pro version so far and it plays great.The main thing i like about the LE and Premium versions are the drop targets,this is what swayed me into buying one.Stern have finally released a title thats got some old school play about it,and thats what i like in a pin.I would not buy a one dimensional pin in regards to hitting the same thing over and over on the playfield as the main focus point.I have had 10k in my pinball fund for months,and had looked at and considered many titles,i do like LOTR,IM,CV but i kept waiting for ACDC to be reveiled.The choice for me was easy as if you lined all of these title up,for me i like the layout ect on ACDC.Sorry to hijack your post,but nice pick up and enjoy ^^^.
nice one and congratulations! a top title to dump a heap of cash on, which one did you decide on?
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I approached the landlord of my shop today who has the shop on the corner and suggested he install a pinball machine...
"what do i want one of them for?" was his reply.
"to make money" i said... "put one in the corner for everyone to play and its 50/50 on the takings.AC/DC is the next title out and it will make a bomb".
His reply?
"That's all i need... a shop full of bogans hanging around to play an ACDC pinball... no thanks Gav"
LOL!!!!!
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Isnt it funny how peoples attitudes are so wrong.
Choice 1.
Teenagers down at the local pinny and cocktail arcade, spending some coin on some games, having social interraction, enjoying hand/eye co-ordination whilst enjoying healthy competition. Usually under the view of CCTV cameras etc, mostly always behaved so they can stay a member and be included. Adults also having fun at the same venues reminissing about their teenage years. A good healthy mix.
Choice 2.
Teenagers taking drugs, bored at home, locked away in a bedroom on facebook 20 hrs a day, or at a mates place, down the local shops spray painting walls n trains, vandalising stuff etc. Nothing fun to do means boredom and frustration leading to anti-social trouble.
Yeh, Pinny arcades are real bad for society. @.@ Its about time people woke up. Local councils could fund the rent locally for a small and accessible site, an experienced operator could supply the place with stock and make coin from pinnys and cocktail machines. Everyone wins ! The savings on local council purse strings paying out for vandalism could pay the rent for a site ten fold, and save local councils millions. Julia Gillard shld use her brain and work out an arcade tax.lol instead of stupid carbon tax etc. We live in 2012, but somedays it seems like we still live in the 1950's with peoples close minded views.
and AC/DC, has its lead band member wearing a school uniform, who said AC/DC doesnt promote education ! %.% %.%
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yes, similar layout to a Terminator 2 by the looks of it.
I think it will play really fast. with the music cranked up, bouban and coke strapped to ya back like a professional hiker, it shld all be good. $&& $&& **) $%$
Yep any Machine that has Steve Ritchies Design input will be fast as a Highway to Hell %.%
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Black LE for me #*# would have loved one of each, but anyway....
selling that first pin is the hardest, it does get easier after that
especially when there is a new one on the way
Well done mate,first impressions for me is that it is a fast playing game,with a nice open playfield.We have only seen the Pro version so far and it plays great.The main thing i like about the LE and Premium versions are the drop targets,this is what swayed me into buying one.Stern have finally released a title thats got some old school play about it,and thats what i like in a pin.I would not buy a one dimensional pin in regards to hitting the same thing over and over on the playfield as the main focus point.I have had 10k in my pinball fund for months,and had looked at and considered many titles,i do like LOTR,IM,CV but i kept waiting for ACDC to be reveiled.The choice for me was easy as if you lined all of these title up,for me i like the layout ect on ACDC.Sorry to hijack your post,but nice pick up and enjoy ^^^.
nice one and congratulations! a top title to dump a heap of cash on, which one did you decide on?
I missed the cut off time for the LE models,which was my fault and i can live with that.I bought the Premium version with the shaker motor fitted.I will have the same game play as you but without some of the bling.This model will also look nice,and as i will not be looking to sell i am happy with my choice.I am looking forward though to seeing how good the LE models come up.
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Punter, did u ever consider/wondr about just buying the PRO model, thus saving 2 grand plus, and waiting to see if they redo another LE model since so many people are screaming for a LE model but missed out due to low numbers of LE's. Ofcourse another LE model will be different to the 200 and 300, to keep those buyers happy, but i will put $$ on it another LE version will come out to satisfy demand.
You could always sell the PRo model and upgrade later, or keep both. What are ya thoughts on that ?
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Brett i took too long to make a call on this title.I got a call from Bruce to see if i wanted to buy the LE model,but i had so much s**t going on in my head i could not make call on it until i had time to chill and see what each model had in it.I can honestly say that i am very happy with my purchase and am looking forward to picking it up #*#.For me as stated already this model with shaker in it is going to have the same play as the LE and at $800.00 cheaper i can spend that on something else,maybe some nice mods that no doubt will be made for this game ?,or maybe 20 bottles of JD @@*.
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Rumour is possibilty of another Le run with different song title! GS underestimated the run!@!@
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Rumour is possibilty of another Le run with different song title! GS underestimated the run!@!@
I hope not, not enough TRON LEs, to many TF LEs, AC/DC should be left as is. i thought
the whole idea of the Premium model was to meet market demand with a "complete" game !@#
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this information is from another site....
About the Four AC/DC Pinball Models:
• Offered in four models:
o Back in Black LE (“Black LE”); ONLY 300 units
o Let There Be Rock (“Rock LE”); ONLY 200 units
o Premium (this is a NEW model)
o Pro (Coin Op)
• LE’s and Premium are SUPER LE’s with more features and higher price points than
recent LE games from SPI
• With the SUPER LE’s, we are responding to market demands
• We do not expect to offer SUPER LE’s very frequently, which adds to their value as a
collectible
• The Premium is new and is designed for customers and players that want GAME PLAY
like the LE but the artistic simplicity of the Pro
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• The Premium is a SUPER high-end game, but priced lower than the SUPER LE’s to
account for the artistic simplicity and lack of collectible features (such as numbering,
signatures and limited production runs)
• There are NO PRODUCTION LIMITS on the Pro or the Premium models and the game
is subject to change
About the Game:
• Designed by STEVE RITCHIE, the highest selling designer in pinball history
• Programmed by LYMAN SHEATS, widely recognized as one of the most creative rule
makers in pinball history
• 12 COMPLETE iconic AC/DC songs:
o Back in Black
o You Shook Me All Night Long
o Highway to Hell
o For Those About to Rock
o T.N.T.
o Hells Bells
o Thunderstruck
o Let There Be Rock
o Rock N Roll Train
o Hell Ain’t a Bad Place To Be
o Whole Lotta Rosie
o War Machine
• An incredible new sound system that makes this game the best sounding pinball game in
history
• A packed playfield featuring:
o For Those About To Rock Cannon
Pro: Rotating cannon perched on top of the right slingshot that shoots
balls. A diverter on the right ramp feeds balls to the cannon.
LE and Premium: A crossover ball track with diverter also feeds the
cannon.
o Hells Bell:
Pro: The custom-made bell is stationary on the Pro model. There is a stand-up
target behind the (overhead) bell. Once the target is hit the trademark AC/DC bell
sound loudly resonates!
LE and Premium: The custom-made bell is on a pivot and a ball hangs below it
just above the playfield. Hitting the ball swings the bell and the trademark
AC/DC bell rings loudly! There is a ball lock behind the bell. Also, there is
a magnet under the playfield. Under certain conditions, when playing in the Hells
Bells song mode, the bell becomes interactive: when the player hits the Fire
button, the magnet is energized and the bell swings on its own, prompting
the trademark AC/DC bell to ring once again!
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o Rock N Roll Train:
Pro: The iconic train from the Black Ice album is eye candy and symbolic
of the band. There is a flash lamp behind the train display.
LE and Premium: The train is custom-made and molded with an LED in
the train headlight. There is also a flash lamp in the back.
o Hell (lower) Mini Playfield:
Pro: Not available on the Pro model.
LE and Premium: The game features an “Underworld” lower miniplayfield
seen through a Lexan window. With 2 flippers, 3 Targets and 2
orbits, the action is fast and fun.
o T.N.T. Detonator:
Pro: The detonator has a plunger handle that is fixed. Hitting all three
T.N.T. stand-up targets kicks off a simulated “fire” light show.
LE and Premium: After hitting all 3 T.N.T. drop targets, the targets stay
down. Then, a detonator target is exposed behind the letter “N”. Hitting
that target activates a solenoid that causes the plunger to go down, kicks
off the detonator, and sets off a “fire” light show.
o The Highway To Hell: The right ramp is “The Highway to Hell”.
Pro: A billboard-like image of the band is placed over the right ramp in
the corner.
LE and Premium: An LED board is mounted that contains yellow, red and
orange lights. When a ball travels on the ramp, the colors randomly flicker
simulating fire and flames on the ramp. Also, the Premium and LE
versions feature a mechanically animated band with each character
rocking and swaying in time with the music.
o Devil's Juke Box: On the back panel is the horned juke box tune selector that
allows the player to select any of the 12 complete AC/DC songs
o Drop targets: Drop targets available on the LE and Premium models only.
• A ground-breaking rule set that enables players to:
o Choose FULL songs they like to hear
o Choose rules they like to play
o Choose areas of the playfield they like to play
o Pursue a nearly infinite number of scoring strategies
o Stack and overlap three multi-ball modes (Jam, Album and Tour)
• An outstanding art package from the incomparable John Youssi featuring an over-sized,
hand-drawn, sneering face of Angus Young that embodies the rock “n” roll attitude of
AC/DC.
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I thought i was a little confused about what was what when 3 versions of the game were available.... now i know that i am actually confused
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3 or 4 versions? :lol
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didnt i say Gary Stern would put something out saying "we have responded to demand for the LE model". ^^^ ^^^
it just makes sense to do another high end LE run. He shld either just do another identical 300 LE back in Black, and another 200 LE Let there be rock machines, that way all the previous (first) buyers of the LE models still have the same model and will not complain (hopefully) or if he does a super LE as they have put it, then some people who have bought the original Premium will/might think they have got the 2nd best version, not the best version.
either way, exciting times. Now u can see why i just ordered the Pro, cause i just knew there would be another LE run, which i can pick up later.
also, see how they used the word, machines can change etc etc etc, maybe the ugly head will go, and the playfield artwork might be upgraded/changed.
makes u think about just holding off til u can see ALL the models. I wonder how many people are chopping n changing their orders now ? more so Pro or Premium machine buyers ?? !@#
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You may be right Brett,this LE problem will always come up if you uderestimate how many you need to produce.This title was always going to be a big seller,so no doubt Stern have stuffed up with their numbers.After the LE version sold out so quick i thought as many would have,WHY limit it to 500 when it should have been 1k produced.This whole thing with so many models it was only a matter of time that this issue would arise.If they do decide to make more LE models they at least have to keep to the same theme as with the 2 versions already produced.If i had already bought an LE version i would be pissed off as if it was advertised as a run of 500 in total then it should never be produced again.The quote given that,with the super LE"s we are responing to market demands suggests to me that they are going to make more of the high end models,not the Premium as they are already not limited in numbers.I will be making a call to Bruce tomorrow to advise to keep my deposit but to hold off on my order as i want to see what developes first.If the chance to buy the LE high end version becomes available i feel that i should be given a chance to buy if it does get made.You only have to read between the lines in that update that Stern have a backup plan to produce more if they decided to.
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Rumour is possibilty of another Le run with different song title! GS underestimated the run!@!@
I hope not, not enough TRON LEs, to many TF LEs, AC/DC should be left as is. i thought
the whole idea of the Premium model was to meet market demand with a "complete" game !@#
+1
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gee, its a bloody catch 22 now. dammed if they do, dammed if they dont.
IF they produce identical LE's to the original 500 (200 back in Black and 300 Let there be Rock) then this protects the 500 buyers for the first batch LE owners. But even if its the same exact machine some will complain. I think it is fair to say 50% of people buying the first LE were going to sit on a LE, kept New in Box to then resell n make a dollar. The other 50 % who are keeping to play, and hoping for big resale because of a small original production run, will now see the $ resale pricing come down, which is an overall good thing for the pinball market.
Personally, if u are a buyer of the first LE run, and u dont like it so to speak, and then cancel, there will be many many people wishing to take over that LE machine, so Stern and its dealers, and the public still win. I say Stern shld do another run for all those who missed out. Thats only fair to all people in the pinball hobby. The people who put their deposits down for the original LE run shouldnt complain at all really, cause the LE machines HAVE NOT even be made yet, and none haver been distributed, so they have lost nothing. If the new LE run is different, well no one can complain either, because the original 500 LE owners still have a limited number machine only, and the new LE machine will be different, therefore its then different, probably priced the same as the original LE, maybe even higher to cash in on demand.
Either way, the pinny hobby wins if more machines get made. some will disagree, but its fairer to those who miss out, which will be numbered alot higher than those who did get a LE. More i reckon is better for all parties. (example - someone who has a LE Back in Black can now also pick up a LE Let there be Rock and so on. That works well in that regard) !@#
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maybe a SPECIAL PREMIUM model... and leave the LEs as they are, like I said, the
whole idea of the PREMIUM model is so players can have the complete game.
And if they keep doing extra LE runs it defeats the purpose of having a Limited Edition
to start with.
If you want an LE you have to get in early, have your order in before the cut off,
put down a big deposit and then wait and hope for several months that they
produce a good game... *%*
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maybe a SPECIAL PREMIUM model... and leave the LEs as they are, like I said, the
whole idea of the PREMIUM model is so players can have the complete game.
And if they keep doing extra LE runs it defeats the purpose of having a Limited Edition
to start with.
If you want an LE you have to get in early, have your order in before the cut off,
put down a big deposit and then wait and hope for several months that they
produce a good game... *%*
the only problem is, that alot of people, incl me, only knew about the LE model when it was over completely.
Also, a company like Strern, shldnt offer a product, and get people to committ many thousands of dollars, for a product the client hasnt even seen. Thats not fair on the client. Does taht mean if u want to buy a LE model, u have to gamble, be a pschcic.Also, alot of people just buy LE machines to sit on, never opened and its drives the resale price up, again, making it unfair for the buyer who missed out. If anyone who has secured a LE is wondering what i mean, give up your LE to someone else, then try n buy one. You wont be able to (perhaps). The re-release of the addition LE models makes it alot fairer for everyone, which is the aussie way of doing things i reckon.More machines cant hurt anyone. Time will tell. A re-release will make more people happy than those unhappy.
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put down a big deposit and then wait and hope for several months that they
produce a good game...
LOL - that still reminds me of the cockney barrow boys in London..... "alright ladies.... whos gonna give me ten quid for whats on my mind?"...
... youd be suprised how many tenners are handed over
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put down a big deposit and then wait and hope for several months that they
produce a good game...
LOL - that still reminds me of the cockney barrow boys in London..... "alright ladies.... whos gonna give me ten quid for whats on my mind?"...
... youd be suprised how many tenners are handed over
classic %.%
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maybe a SPECIAL PREMIUM model... and leave the LEs as they are, like I said, the
whole idea of the PREMIUM model is so players can have the complete game.
And if they keep doing extra LE runs it defeats the purpose of having a Limited Edition
to start with.
If you want an LE you have to get in early, have your order in before the cut off,
put down a big deposit and then wait and hope for several months that they
produce a good game... *%*
this is a good point if you ordered a LE at this stage your putting your money down on a Unsighted game
so shouldn't you get that little something special .... your the one paying 9+ grand on a game that no ones seen, there are unlimited Premiums available for those who missed the LE
and really the difference between a LE and a Prem is a 12" sub woofer a shaker , back glass instead of a Translight and cabinet cosmetics and paper work
that said Stern changed the amount of LE Transformers nobody jumped up and down then
I think its time Stern broke there word again....... 2nd run of Spiderman Black maybe some more Tron LE and not forgetting they only did about 200 - 250 Avatar LE-
hell i'd be hanging for a T3 LE Silver Edition
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HIGHWAY TO HELL VERSION ^^^
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HIGHWAY TO HELL VERSION ^^^
ok I'd swap my BIB for a HTH LOL
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u guys made some good points. why cant Stern do another LE run for Tron, Avatar and say Spiderman Black etc. !@#
I cat see why u shldnt be able to contact Bruce at AMD, or any of the Stern Aussie dealers, and ask for a specific model in a specific title.
I would love a Tron Le and a Avatar LE. Why cant a order be put thru, and Stern USA just makes it. Its not like they dont have the ability or the parts sitting there.
Just to make a comparison, you can go to Ford or Holden and ask for a certain model and have various changes and add ons done at the factory. Even HSV used to invite people to the factory and let u watch your car actually being made on the production line, with the extras or the mods being put on. Now thats customer attention.
Why cant Stern make a machine to order in its stock standard original configuration.
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ACDC buyers if you get a chance check out the vid on you tube posted by tattyadams,gives a good look at the machines gameplay.This thing is very quick and with 2 machines side by side it is worth a look.The guy playing it does not need a shaker motor either ^^^.I do not know how to post the link,so if someone can, thanks.
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Great vid
This title is just insane, iconic to australians as the V8 SS Holden ute, well done Stern.
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that is awesome! and that is the pro model, wait,, just wait for the Premium and LEs !*!
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I think we always knew Stern would make a shit load of cash off this title and isnt it good for pinball more money in the bank hopefully means more money to spend on future titles %$% I reckon there will be more LE's and there probably silly if they don't cash in but they might be new titles instead of back in black they might be a TNT version or any of the other songs on the game-I've ordered a Back in Black version as I love the song so I'm not disappointed.
Peter
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Here is a short interview with Gary stern about ac/dc in London
Follow the link.
http://www.pingamejournal.com/update/
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Thanks for putting up the link Tony ^^^.I will have to get shown how to do it one day,it is the same for me with posting pics of a machine.
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Here is a short interview with Gary stern about ac/dc in London
Follow the link.
http://www.pingamejournal.com/update/
might answer some questions #@#
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Here is a short interview with Gary stern about ac/dc in London
Follow the link.
http://www.pingamejournal.com/update/
might answer some questions #@#
thanks for that, could not work out the link with the ipad early this morning.
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Is it possible to get excited about the same title more than once.Well for me it is,after missing out on an LE version and putting a deposit down on the Premium i thought bugger this i will get in touch with Bruce from AMD to see if he could keep an eye out for an LE for me.He advised me that at that time there was none left,so i asked him that if one came up available that i would grab it.I told him i wanted the ROCK version and well i was advised today that he has got one for me #*#,you bloody beauty,this is going to make getting on the piss tonight even more enjoyable *%*.I would have stuck with the Premium version for any other title but for ACDC i really wanted the LE.
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well done Punter. ^^^
it definately pays for anyone who wants a LE to place their name down with Bruce from AMD because more stock is being made available to AUST and some people cancel/change their minds/dont pay deposits etc, so some LE's can be had if u register with Bruce and keep an eye on ya email or your mobile.
Glad it worked out Punter. Its also great dealing with good people when you buy a great product. Nothing like good memories of the sales experience. ^^^
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well done Punter. ^^^
it definately pays for anyone who wants a LE to place their name down with Bruce from AMD because more stock is being made available to AUST and some people cancel/change their minds/dont pay deposits etc, so some LE's can be had if u register with Bruce and keep an eye on ya email or your mobile.
Glad it worked out Punter. Its also great dealing with good people when you buy a great product. Nothing like good memories of the sales experience. ^^^
Thanks Brett,i cannot fault the service from Bruce and co,they are very good to deal with.Some people in this case might have just thought he has already put a deposit down on the other version, so do i take the time ect to chase up the LE version for him.No such issues here as the response was yes i will get onto it,and it has all turned out good for me.
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Nothing to do with people cancelling or pulling out , the distributor and agents have just secured more LE's for Australia
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Nothing to do with people cancelling or pulling out , the distributor and agents have just secured more LE's for Australia
Thats good news,as other people who may have missed the cut off for an LE model will now have a chance to get one.
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Is it possible to get excited about the same title more than once.Well for me it is,after missing out on an LE version and putting a deposit down on the Premium i thought bugger this i will get in touch with Bruce from AMD to see if he could keep an eye out for an LE for me.He advised me that at that time there was none left,so i asked him that if one came up available that i would grab it.I told him i wanted the ROCK version and well i was advised today that he has got one for me #*#,you bloody beauty,this is going to make getting on the piss tonight even more enjoyable *%*.I would have stuck with the Premium version for any other title but for ACDC i really wanted the LE.
Well done Tony. I think the Rock version of the backglass looks better as well
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Those two backglasses are a big improvement.
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I do like the 'Let there be Rick' backglass
Almost makes me want to buy this game
Almost....
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I do like the 'Let there be Rick' backglass
Almost makes me want to buy this game
Almost....
:lol
Not me...not even close.
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I do like the 'Let there be Rick' backglass
Almost makes me want to buy this game
Almost....
:lol
Not me...not even close.
You really don't like it do you? Very anti AC/DC pinball can't understand why..but each to there own
Peter
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Is it possible to get excited about the same title more than once.Well for me it is,after missing out on an LE version and putting a deposit down on the Premium i thought bugger this i will get in touch with Bruce from AMD to see if he could keep an eye out for an LE for me.He advised me that at that time there was none left,so i asked him that if one came up available that i would grab it.I told him i wanted the ROCK version and well i was advised today that he has got one for me #*#,you bloody beauty,this is going to make getting on the piss tonight even more enjoyable *%*.I would have stuck with the Premium version for any other title but for ACDC i really wanted the LE.
Well done Tony. I think the Rock version of the backglass looks better as well
Thanks for the pics Tony,bloody hell how good are these backglasses going to look in the flesh.I am rapt in the Rock backglass as well,i chose this version because i wanted the red and yellow rails,hinges ect as i thuoght it would look a bit different.That pic of the backglass has just pushed up the blood pressure again,man it looks awsome #*# #*# #*#.
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I do like the 'Let there be Rick' backglass
Almost makes me want to buy this game
Almost....
:lol
Not me...not even close.
You really don't like it do you? Very anti AC/DC pinball can't understand why..but each to there own
Peter
becuase it's deadset fugly and the theme has no attraction for me whatsoever. the videos did nothing to change my mind, i knew the game would be fast and the music would be good quality but there is nothing else there to get me motivated or excited to shell out the coin for it, it's just not worth it imo but as I have always said...as long as the fanboys are happy thats all that matters.
Yep whatever floats ya boat or horses for courses or whatever....
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I think they look great
Glad I have a BIB coming soon
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I do like the 'Let there be Rick' backglass
Almost makes me want to buy this game
Almost....
:lol
Not me...not even close.
You really don't like it do you? Very anti AC/DC pinball can't understand why..but each to there own
Peter
becuase it's deadset fugly and the theme has no attraction for me whatsoever. the videos did nothing to change my mind, i knew the game would be fast and the music would be good quality but there is nothing else there to get me motivated or excited to shell out the coin for it, it's just not worth it imo but as I have always said...as long as the fanboys are happy thats all that matters.
Yep whatever floats ya boat or horses for courses or whatever....
Hmmmm ok
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It's all good I know I am in the vast minority and that's fine but more thought and work on this title esspecially in the artwork may have swung my mind around. I can understand the hype, so many fans have been waiting a long time for this to happen.
It makes no difference to me, i'm not buying one..so all that matters is those that are are happy.
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99 percent of orders have stuck and the extra amount of LE's can be counted on less than 2 hands. Still worth registering your interst for a LE just in case.
Glad to see everyone likes the backglasses. ^^^
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It's all good I know I am in the vast minority and that's fine but more thought and work on this title esspecially in the artwork may have swung my mind around. I can understand the hype, so many fans have been waiting a long time for this to happen.
It makes no difference to me, i'm not buying one..so all that matters is those that are are happy.
That's better I just thought you hadn't given it a fair go considering you love iron man which like AC/DC is fast and has great flow so well done
Peter
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Pete, we will convert Daz yet.lol Free beer, bourban and women for every AC/DC game played.
you must be excited Pete to see the cool backglasses. very nice indeed. looking forward to seeing you open your LE. Xmas will have come early ! ^^^ ^^^
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Pete, we will convert Daz yet.lol Free beer, bourban and women for every AC/DC game played.
you must be excited Pete to see the cool backglasses. very nice indeed. looking forward to seeing you open your LE. Xmas will have come early ! ^^^ ^^^
No birds mate, my missus will do me just fine but.....throw in some quality buds and mushies and you might be a chance.
:D
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when you say "you" I hope KNOW u mean the other women I was providing.lol %.% %.% ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
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:lol
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I was dead set against this machine when i first saw the photos from Stern, espescially the head, but in person the machine is T'riffic. The whole package I think will convert anyone still wondering. The playfield large head is the last thing u remember when playing. Alcohol, horny women and loud AC/DC will bring out the devil in anyone.lol
I reckon people will dance literally around this pinny with the audio cranked up...when has that ever happened with a pinball machine before ? grog in one hand, girl in the other, and a pinny a few metres away ! bring it on ! ^^^
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I seriously don't think any collector/player can actually pass any judgement/opinions on acdc until they have played it for at least an hour or so...
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good point. ^^^
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Most people will be buying this sight unseen and unplayed until unwrapped in their home, distorts the argument a bit me thinks.
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I am glad i dont play tennis with u Daz, or u might return serve and hit me in the nuts with your return. me thinks Leon meant any negative opinion.lol til u play it for a while.
u guys can debate it over 10 alcoholic drinks when Leon beats u on a game of doubles at my joint.lol
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Pete, we will convert Daz yet.lol Free beer, bourban and women for every AC/DC game played.
you must be excited Pete to see the cool backglasses. very nice indeed. looking forward to seeing you open your LE. Xmas will have come early ! ^^^ ^^^
Brett I'm soooooo frigin excited I can't wait and I love the back in black BG and can't wait for more LE pics oh and I really enjoyed your videos and posts on the new game, I've decided to play whole lot of Rosie for the first song on the first game I play after the un boxing
Peter
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if you did not get in at day one of the release you have missed out on the LE's,sorry.
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first song has got to be 'back in black'
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Lets just wait and see the reviews from the 100 plus australian LE AC/Dc owners/collectors later in the year, me thinks 100% of them will be very happy with there nine grand limited editions.
I doubt very few of the BIB or LTBR will ever be traded, time will tell I guess...
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I am sure the Premium and the LE's will be streets and streets ahead of the pro...I am looking forward to seeing what they are like and if like some of the recent Stern LE's etc are anything to go by I think they will be fanstastic, a great investment and will surely grow in value in years to come. I can certianly understand some fans who are buying two LE'S one to play and one to keep in the box.
My beef is with the pro, I haven't seen the other models yet so I won't comment until then.
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Ordered 2 AC/DC Pro for a launch party/tournament here in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada, February 25. So Stern has 10 in North America, 2 in Canada, Toronto, & Halifax. I'm trying to build pinball in my area with a monthly league, & now a launch.
The launch party is at one of our best hotels, should be lots of fun, & allowing multiple plays on the 2 pins.
http://sternpinball.com/
http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-community-events-AC-DC-Halifax-Pinball-Launch-Party-Westin-Nova-Scotia-Hotel-W0QQAdIdZ350956783
http://greatpinball.com/
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I doubt very few of the BIB or LTBR will ever be traded, time will tell I guess...
Pins get sold all the time, Spidy blacks, LOTR LE's
no matter how awesome the game is, some people like to turn over their games
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Well done greatwichjohn on your release party for the AC/DC ^^^ I know it will go well for you and you shld be commended for putting something back into pinball to grow the pinball interest in your part of the world. Positive marketing always brings positive results. Well done mate. ^^^
The great thing about the 2 different models of the AC/DC machine (Pro versus Premium/LE models) is that they really are going to be 2 x very different games to play.
If I am right, the Pro model will be the faster model, and the other LE design, will be the game with a few more shots, the small underground playfield and the bling bling. Sometimes LE doesnt neccessarily mean a better game. (Although the LE/Premium models in this case I think will be worth every cent extra that they are priced at).
I played the Pro version and the LE version of Transformers. and IMHO I found the Pro Transformers was a better game for me. Why, it was faster, and the the LE was slower. The bling on the LE was very nice, but I couldnt justify the extra $2250. IF Stern keeps to the 200 and 300 LE models of AC/DC, and the game is rated as well as the Pro AC/DC, watch the resale prices climb. If it turns out the LE models look the part, but it turns out that the gameplay is a little slow, or if some feel there is something quirky/not great about the LE design, the LE will still keep its value, because it is such a short run, and the artwork package, with the music, will still be a great pin no matter what. (if the LE version plays even faster than the Pro model, wow, this will be the best of the best) ^^^
Something I have been wondering about, is if STERN will do the following for AC/DC, in the next 6 months, which i reckon would be really welcomed by the Public >>> !@#
Pro model - unlimited run whilst orders keep coming in.
Premium Model - unlimited run whilst orders keep coming in
LE Back in Black - sold out
Let there be Rock - sold out
Pro LE model - a small numbered run of a modified Pro model which just stays the same as the first Pro ,but bling added, signed playfield, modified backglass, small art change
Premium LE model - a small numbered run of modified Premium models, again with a few specific changes, made to sell extra units, by making a special Premium short run
There are so many marketing opportunities that Stern could make, and I think different versions of the Pro and Premium would be lapped up by the public.
Does anyone else on here think a modified short run of the Pro and Premium would be a successful idea. Would u guys like to see that happen ? !@#
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Well done greatwichjohn on your release party for the AC/DC ^^^ I know it will go well for you and you shld be commended for putting something back into pinball to grow the pinball interest in your part of the world. Positive marketing always brings positive results. Well done mate. ^^^
The great thing about the 2 different models of the AC/DC machine (Pro versus Premium/LE models) is that they really are going to be 2 x very different games to play.
If I am right, the Pro model will be the faster model, and the other LE design, will be the game with a few more shots, the small underground playfield and the bling bling. Sometimes LE doesnt neccessarily mean a better game. (Although the LE/Premium models in this case I think will be worth every cent extra that they are priced at).
I played the Pro version and the LE version of Transformers. and IMHO I found the Pro Transformers was a better game for me. Why, it was faster, and the the LE was slower. The bling on the LE was very nice, but I couldnt justify the extra $2250. IF Stern keeps to the 200 and 300 LE models of AC/DC, and the game is rated as well as the Pro AC/DC, watch the resale prices climb. If it turns out the LE models look the part, but it turns out that the gameplay is a little slow, or if some feel there is something quirky/not great about the LE design, the LE will still keep its value, because it is such a short run, and the artwork package, with the music, will still be a great pin no matter what. (if the LE version plays even faster than the Pro model, wow, this will be the best of the best) ^^^
Something I have been wondering about, is if STERN will do the following for AC/DC, in the next 6 months, which i reckon would be really welcomed by the Public >>> !@#
Pro model - unlimited run whilst orders keep coming in.
Premium Model - unlimited run whilst orders keep coming in
LE Back in Black - sold out
Let there be Rock - sold out
Pro LE model - a small numbered run of a modified Pro model which just stays the same as the first Pro ,but bling added, signed playfield, modified backglass, small art change
Premium LE model - a small numbered run of modified Premium models, again with a few specific changes, made to sell extra units, by making a special Premium short run
There are so many marketing opportunities that Stern could make, and I think different versions of the Pro and Premium would be lapped up by the public.
Does anyone else on here think a modified short run of the Pro and Premium would be a successful idea. Would u guys like to see that happen ? !@#
In all honesty, im kinda tired of the whole ACDC pin thing already... this version.. that version etc. Most people are buying it cos its ACDC and therefore has an Australian band as its theme. I saw ACDC some 30 years ago.. they were OK if 3hrs late to come on stage. Good luck to those who have purchased... best of luck to those who have laid down some serious money for something thats unseen... holy cow, i hope it lives up to your expectations.
Bottom line is that its out.. it has a soundtrack youve all heard many many times, it is friggin ugly with that bloody face... title alone sells this pin and its fast and flowing cos of the lack of toys cluttering up the PF... thank god ACDC wanted serious coin for the rights.
Personally, i care very little for the machine and honestly think the whole LE,PRO, STD, Sweaty shirt version, VB version or whatever is a bloody joke... maybe the flippers will be like BTDK and its nigh on impossible to lose a ball... ive even walked away mid ball on that game... yawn yawn.
PLUS!!!.... does it have drop targets??? And if so why arent they Marshall stacks that you knock down?
Im with Cow on this one...
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I just want a Midnight Oil pin...not too much to ask for I don't think...would be a better pin and as far as musicians go...... it's chalk an cheese...Oils Rule!
I am there right next to you on that ^^^
It will never happen mate,just keep that feeling...we all know that they were the best live band aus has ever produced......I have seen them all and the oils at their peak were fking amazing...25+ shows for me easy..the most brilliant and unpredicatable band ever....I would not be playing guitar today without them.
I owe Martin and Jim sooooo much!!!
OILS!!!!!
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Anymore pictures around?
Peter
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Anymore pictures around?
Peter
I viewed some pics of the LTBR side rails last night on Pinballhead.No pics up yet of the BIB rails,but both of these titles are going to look great.
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glad this topic is back on track...
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There's a picture of the LE's train on the net but I can't upload as I'm On my iPhone at work and it looks awesome
Peter
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I like to think about interesting stuff from left field, because life without an imagination is boring.
A few interesting thoughts bouncing around in my head re the AC/DC LE models are >
1. does Stern have a seperate "special" AC/DC developement area closed off with extra security, and "very limited" staff only access areas.
2. who at Stern has tried to steal a sneak picture and get it out unauthorised with the typical i.phone quick photo.
3. does Stern have a "diversionary" game that is awful and not even close to the real deal LE that they leak photos on for the Jersey Jack People to see, just to put the industry off and keep people guessing.
4. does Angus get to lay some guitar tracks down with the Stern audio engineer to play on the LE game, and how good would that be
5. which LE model will get released first, the Back in Black LE or the Let there be Rock LE
6. which LE will reign supreme after the two LE's are released, who will be the happier buyer since people have invested 9 plus grand on speculation alone (but worth it !)
7. will the AC/DC pinball be the biggest seller of new Stern games and will it outsell The Simpsons whioch had several runs
8. what will the first LE AC/DC machine be "resold": for on Ebay and will someone ask something crazy like $15,000 in 6 months time
9. will the Wizard of OZ pinball feature munchkins and midgets dancing to AC/DC in one of the superb LCD backglass display.lol %.%
anyway, just a percentage of some imagination floating around just for some fun.lol (beats being serious about work all the time.
Pinball is meant to be fun ! as a good mate always says ! ^^^
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Looking forward to it and cant wait to play ^^^
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Here's the train nice but big?
Peter
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Can we keep this thread on AC/DC please :)
Peter
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Can we keep this thread on AC/DC please :)
Peter
Agreed. Thread tidied up. Keep the posts on topic, or start new threads people !
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to get everyone excited - here is your machine getting made.....
https://plus.google.com/photos/101765089097091765365/albums/5702001551776417649
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Here's the train nice but big?
Peter
I had already seen that pic also Peter,is that the finished version,as i was expecting it to be a bit more colourfull ?.
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Here's the train nice but big?
Peter
I had already seen that pic also Peter,is that the finished version,as i was expecting it to be a bit more colourfull ?.
Yeah not sure if finished but will look great with led's fitted
Peter
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to get everyone excited - here is your machine getting made.....
https://plus.google.com/photos/101765089097091765365/albums/5702001551776417649
Interesting title to one of the pics... " Here McDonalds Shrek toys are reused for SHREK pinball" $$(
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I called in to see Bruce on Moday to update my order from the Premium to LE.I do not know how many more LE versions that were supposed to be extras for dealers ect in Australia ?.I asked if the version he found for me was from any more that were given to AUS dealers and he said mine was from someone who had not paid the deposit.The rumour is that the ROCKS are sold out ?,so i may have been lucky to get one.I had to skip away from work to go to see Bruce so i did not have much time to ask many questions,but i did ask if the original playfield colours ect were going to be changed in anyway on the BIB version as some have suggested on various sites on the net that it may clash with the BIB backglass and cab artwork ?.I cannot see a problem with it as i think this version will look great with the Black and Chrome effect.He said he does not know of any changes,so unless there is a last minute change from Stern thats how it is.I was walking out of his office and i saw the Pro version sitting there,Bruce said to have a game before i go ,so i had a couple of games and my first thoughts were this is nice,it has a good feel about it,it got me once with a straight down the gutts suck,but i soon learnt you have to give it a nudge at times depending on how it exits the pop bumper area,it did not happen again after that.The first thing to catch my eye was the display @@*,love it nice and bright red led lit display,they should have done this in previous games.Brett you are also spot on when you said that in the flesh that big face is not as bad when you see it up close,no put off for me as it looks ok and would not put me off buying the Pro version.
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Well done Swinksy for the excellent photos and links. ^^^ it seems the AC/DC Pro machine is in full production. I think the Stern factory will have a AC/DC look and feel/theme for a long time to come.They must have huge orders for this title. It looks great full of Pro AC/DC cabinets. Visiting Stern now would be a great visit/fun trip for any pinball collector.
Well done Punter for the update and info on visiting Bruce. I think alot of people will come to realise just how good the Pro model is. and yes, its good to see you experienced the drain right down the guts. The body nudge is the only way to beat that quick badboy. I like the fact that the machine can catch u out easily, makes u play the machine, and a machine that is too easy is no good. Bruce mentioned to me like he did you about the few cancellations/deposits not paid which has helped those who missed out on a LE now get one, plus the small gift from Gary Stern re the few extra LE's of both type to help out Bruce with extra orders etc. I am glad u saw and played the game. The colours look great dont they and the translite looks excellent. Fun times ahead. I also reckon there will be some great mods for the AC/DC machine cause there are alot of talented people out there who will surely have some great ideas to bling out the machine.
I have a day off tomorrow, so I am off to the powdercoaters to pick up my custom AC/DC toppers. A bit of extra construction and we will be ontrack for a custom topper that any Pro or LE owner would love I reckon. Something fun to do anyway.
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It's getting exciting waiting for them to be released and hopefully more LE pictures come out soon as its driving me crazy waiting and brett post some topper pictures ASAP :)
Peter
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It's getting exciting waiting for them to be released and hopefully more LE pictures come out soon as its driving me crazy waiting and brett post some topper pictures ASAP :)
Peter
+1 Peter,the deposits are down the order books are full,lets have some pics to see what the whole machines look like.Also me too Brett i want to see the Toppers.
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Thanks Punter,
those pics of the LTBR siderails look great
Looking forward to seeing the BIB ones
I got a feeling they will look sensational
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Premium backglass.
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Premium backglass is easily the best. Great artwork.
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Premium backglass is easily the best. Great artwork.
+1, If i had to choose from all the versions shown,this wins hands down for me,what a cracker @@*.
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Oh wow that backglass is sweet. i hope i get a chance to play this game. any one on the sunshine coast buying one? lol
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I have to say the Premium backglass is better than the LE and the Pro
Pitty it isnt glass,Id swap my BIB for it,for sure
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interchangeable backglasses might be the answer..
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very good idea replay. a interchangeable backglass/translite would be a dam good idea. ^^^
I wonder what Stern will charge for them, if they will even supply spares. That will be a question to ask Bruce from AMD asap. The cabinet photos are too come soon for the LE and Premiums. Things are heating up. Excellent. I am thinking a chrome/black topper for the Back in Black LE might be on the cards too.
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If you locate a machine to test, " bonus or software glitch ???" hold the fire button down while launching the ball until another ball is launched into the plunger lane - instant multball
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Does anyone know where and when a pro modle will be available to play in Melb?
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Does anyone know where and when a pro modle will be available to play in Melb?
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unless Bruce from AMD fly's more AC/DC Pro's in via airfreight (which costs more $$), it may be when the sea freight containers come in at the end of March for a AC/DC Pro to hit the melbourne area ?
where-ever u find one, make sure the audio is turned up, and play a good 3 or 4 un-interrupted games to really get the feel for it.
!@# !@# !@# !@# the next question is, is how much longer after the first batch of Pro's hit the docks, will it take for the Premium's and LE's to arrive after the end of March ? I have a feeling AMD-Bruce will fly in some of each to show people/to sell more off, but when will that be ? when will the Production line at Stern switch from Pro to Premium/LE models ? !@#
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interesting question,,, i thought the LE's were due late March, maybe the are all coming out together ??
Would seem a bit unusual as the Pro models alway come out first. Might be a bit more of a wait for the LE's
than I expected.
More info needed...
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LE's towards end of March pros middle March I would think, sterns line and the mexcicons will be flat out as we speak taking time line into consideration, they will want these out ASAP
Peter
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wonder if any of the boys in the band will get an LE?
Surely they grew up playing pins
sure it wouldnt hurt sales,if Angus was filmed playing one???
Look out on you tube
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QUESTION - !@#
Is anyone on here who has ordered a AC/DC machine going to hold a "Unboxing Pinball Party" etc for the unveiling ? and if so, will you play the first game on the machine or give the first game to a friend/member who comes to the unboxing party ? !@#
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Does anyone know where and when a pro modle will be available to play in Melb?
WE HAVE ONE HERE AT BUMPER,NOT ON THE SHOWROOM FLOOR YET BUT WILL BE SOON. ASK FOR ME AND I TAKE YOU UPSTAIRS TO VIEW/PLAY THE MACHINE.
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Sounds great Dave
Thanks and see you soon as I can get down to the city
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Order my Pro yesterday. At this time, there are less then 20 made for USA... Launch Parties. Stern production is all overseas at this time. Confused Could be a month before I see mine. Im going to add full Flipper Fidelity Speaker system and shaker motor.
Please post video of unboxing and gameplay.
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Does anyone know where and when a pro modle will be available to play in Melb?
WE HAVE ONE HERE AT BUMPER,NOT ON THE SHOWROOM FLOOR YET BUT WILL BE SOON. ASK FOR ME AND I TAKE YOU UPSTAIRS TO VIEW/PLAY THE MACHINE.
thanks DAVID
good to know
Kids just wanna have Fun -Perth
Bumper -Melbourne
Cashbox - Melbourne
AMD - Sydney
Newcastle NSW (Swinks has the address)
all have a pro to veiw & play
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Does anyone know where and when a pro modle will be available to play in Melb?
WE HAVE ONE HERE AT BUMPER,NOT ON THE SHOWROOM FLOOR YET BUT WILL BE SOON. ASK FOR ME AND I TAKE YOU UPSTAIRS TO VIEW/PLAY THE MACHINE.
thanks DAVID
good to know
Kids just wanna have Fun -Perth
Bumper -Melbourne
Cashbox - Melbourne
AMD - Sydney
Newcastle NSW (Swinks has the address)
all have a pro to veiw & play
one in Newcastle is at Pinball n Pizza in Broadmeadow, open 4pm to late Tues to Sunday - good pizza too as well as 5 other games (TOTAN, MH, RFM LOTR,T2).
Another sited one in Sydney is:
The Stella Inn - 735 Princess Hywy - Tempe.
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one in Newcastle is at Pinball n Pizza in Broadmeadow, open 4pm to late Tues to Sunday - good pizza too as well as 5 other games (TOTAN, MH, RFM LOTR,T2).
I keep hearing great things about this place, I might have to have rd trip one of these days soon.
I love a good pizza and if there are 6 different games to have crack on while having a few slices and talking crap with your mates...that's sweet!!
I don't suppose they sell grog or have a byo?
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one in Newcastle is at Pinball n Pizza in Broadmeadow, open 4pm to late Tues to Sunday - good pizza too as well as 5 other games (TOTAN, MH, RFM LOTR,T2).
I keep hearing great things about this place, I might have to have rd trip one of these days soon.
I love a good pizza and if there are 6 different games to have crack on while having a few slices and talking crap with your mates...that's sweet!!
I don't suppose they sell grog or have a byo?
I have only been there once and it was on the dot of opening so didn't take notice of the grog side of things, pretty sure they don't serve grog but reckon you could get away with BYO. They also have a function room with 5 other pins for functions only access but have a Friday happy hour every now and then for $5 for one hour so hoping to visit that also.
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My 2 AC/DC pro pins arrived today after some bad winter weather for my launch/tournament party. I have one unboxed & set up for play. Waiting to see if one of our local rock radio stations want to try one for 48 hours. If the managers don't respond with interest, it gets set up with the other one after 24 hours.
I'm very happy with the initial plays, but will close down the outlane posts like all my other Stern pins. Here is the info on the last North American launch party I'm holding: http://halifax.kijiji.ca/c-community-events-AC-DC-Halifax-Pinball-Launch-Party-Westin-Nova-Scotia-Hotel-W0QQAdIdZ350956783
It's a blast becoming a new Stern Dealer for my area. Get to live the dream of playing new pins just like my high school years, along with my friends.
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Order my Pro yesterday. At this time, there are less then 20 made for USA... Launch Parties. Stern production is all overseas at this time. Confused Could be a month before I see mine. Im going to add full Flipper Fidelity Speaker system and shaker motor.
Please post video of unboxing and gameplay.
Dont bother changing the speakers, sound is good enough
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yeh Silverball is definately correct, the audio on the AC/DC is loud and exceptionally clear. I was told that the Transformers machine really NEEDED the update speaker package to hear some sounds that you cant hear with the std package ? I havent turned one up loud enough to make a call on that yet.
Well done John on the pinnall party and congratulations on becoming a Stern dealer. The radio company idea u had was a great idea so i reckon that would be a great idea for marketing. Hope u sells heaps of NIB Sterns mate, well done ! ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
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Just add the sub kit as that completes the sound as I heard the one at AMD and the one at P n P and the one with the sub sounds just that little bit better - more bass...
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has anyone on AP bought a Pro Transformers, and if so, any feedback. I havent met anyone who bought a Pro only. I have one coming and bought on theme alone for me and the kids ?
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Does anyone know where and when a pro modle will be available to play in Melb?
WE HAVE ONE HERE AT BUMPER,NOT ON THE SHOWROOM FLOOR YET BUT WILL BE SOON. ASK FOR ME AND I TAKE YOU UPSTAIRS TO VIEW/PLAY THE MACHINE.
There you go, didn't know you were working at Bumper. Say hi to the other Dave for me (the one that sits on playfield glass and breaks it).
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has anyone on AP bought a Pro Transformers, and if so, any feedback. I havent met anyone who bought a Pro only. I have one coming and bought on theme alone for me and the kids ?
We have a pro setup in the workshop ,I like the game myself,you wont be disappointed ,as far as sound goes in all the latest Sterns you also have controls in the menu to adjust background and speech volumes independently to the main volume on the door,it pays to play around with these.
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Does anyone know where and when a pro modle will be available to play in Melb?
WE HAVE ONE HERE AT BUMPER,NOT ON THE SHOWROOM FLOOR YET BUT WILL BE SOON. ASK FOR ME AND I TAKE YOU UPSTAIRS TO VIEW/PLAY THE MACHINE.
There you go, didn't know you were working at Bumper. Say hi to the other Dave for me (the one that sits on playfield glass and breaks it).
LOL,will do so,pop in and say hello Andrew.
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Do u think the USA armed forces listen to AC/DC when they are going out to kick some butt ? Probably. And i bet very soon there will be ALOT of USA Armed Forces bases all over the world with AC/DC Pinnys to play in the mess hall/lunch room. Very cool for Pinnys and for the AC/DC movement. ^^^
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wonder how big this pin will be in the USA
Im betting not as big as it seems to be in Aust.
I see,two people only rated it around 6.5/10 on Pinside
Probably had a game each
a bit harsh,I would have thought
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wonder how big this pin will be in the USA
Im betting not as big as it seems to be in Aust.
I see,two people only rated it around 6.5/10 on Pinside
Probably had a game each
a bit harsh,I would have thought
spoke to a Stern distributor in the US yesterday
he said most ACDC LE's went to Aust and the EU and he didn't think the demand within the US would be all that great... time will tell
he also said his still had Trons, Transformers, big bucks and IM all NIB sitting there
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does anyone know how many pro's and premium's were made?
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I would love a transformers as well :) I'm
Told the LE 's will arrive end of march
Peter
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I would love a transformers as well :) I'm
Told the LE 's will arrive end of march
Peter
Pete
March - transformers or ACDC?
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Pete, Transformers LE are here in abundance. AMD have apx 12 in stock. They have sold a whack of the LE and the Pro. I liked the Pro better for a bunch of reasons, buts thats just my call. I felt the LE Transformers looked the part, but the Pro played better. I found the LE toys etc, that do move, or have an impact on gameplay, didnt have much of a impact at all, hence the $2300 saving by looking at the Pro was a better decision for me. But i reckon most would have bought the LE just on the bling alone.
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got to play today, had a good dozen games, really funny playing to a song, not bad just very different.
Was quite fast and a bit of a drain monster with the outlanes wide open, and liked going straight down
the middle too.
No doubt will be better with the code updated, at the end of the day.... bring on the LE's
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Got the Decepticon Transformer LE
With the lastest code update and the Stern Update kit which fixes the megtron standup target issue i would rate this game up there with SM!
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Got the Decepticon Transformer LE
With the lastest code update and the Stern Update kit which fixes the megtron standup target issue i would rate this game up there with SM!
cool, did you change the flipper rubbers? if so, did you find much difference?
Yet to install the update kit here, all the love has gone back to Tron.. dont know
why, there is something about it though...
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I would love a transformers as well :) I'm
Told the LE 's will arrive end of march
Peter
Pete
March - transformers or ACDC?
AC/DC late March I'm told
Peter
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Nice little LE teaser
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they look sensational
where did you find the latest pics??
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so thats the Let there be Rock LE, now for the Back in Black LE. well done Pete. ^^^
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Nice find Pete, looks good *%*
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they look sensational
where did you find the latest pics??
facebook
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sweet looking side rails, thanks for the pics pete ^^^
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a couple more pictuyres here as well
http://pinballhead.com/acdc-premium-and-le-whitewood-pics/
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Thanks for the pics,they look very good,and the BIB versions will be great also with the black over chrome.
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just need a peak at the cabinet art,now
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just need a peak at the cabinet art,now
I agree can't wait should see some new pictures this week fingers crossed
Peter
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FOR ME, THE BIGGEST DAY OF THE 2012 PINBALL YEAR WILL BE THE DAY I SEE PETE (GORGAR) HAVE HIS AC/DC BACK IN BLACK nEW IN bOX MACHINE DELIVERED.
I HAVE SEEN THE PRO IN PERSON, I NOW HAVE HUGE HUGE DESIRES TO SEE PETE OPENING THAT BRAND NEW BLACK IN BLACK LE.
I DONT THINK ANYTHING ON THE FORUM THIS YEAR WILL TOP THAT. A LET THERE BE ROCK LE IS GOING TO BE AN INCH BEHIND IT, IF NOT AS GOOD, BUT THE GORGAR OPENING OF THE N.I.BOX ACCA DACCA WILL BE HUGE.
EVERY BLOKE ON HERE FOR 10,000 MILES WILL BE CHEERING FOR YA PETE.
CAN IT GET BETTER THAN A BACK IN BLACK LE ACCA DACCA. WIZARD OF OZ, MAYBE, BUT PETES DAY WILL BE SPECIAL.
BRING ON PETE'S LE !
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FOR ME, THE BIGGEST DAY OF THE 2012 PINBALL YEAR WILL BE THE DAY I SEE PETE (GORGAR) HAVE HIS AC/DC BACK IN BLACK nEW IN bOX MACHINE DELIVERED.
I HAVE SEEN THE PRO IN PERSON, I NOW HAVE HUGE HUGE DESIRES TO SEE PETE OPENING THAT BRAND NEW BLACK IN BLACK LE.
I DONT THINK ANYTHING ON THE FORUM THIS YEAR WILL TOP THAT. A LET THERE BE ROCK LE IS GOING TO BE AN INCH BEHIND IT, IF NOT AS GOOD, BUT THE GORGAR OPENING OF THE N.I.BOX ACCA DACCA WILL BE HUGE.
EVERY BLOKE ON HERE FOR 10,000 MILES WILL BE CHEERING FOR YA PETE.
CAN IT GET BETTER THAN A BACK IN BLACK LE ACCA DACCA. WIZARD OF OZ, MAYBE, BUT PETES DAY WILL BE SPECIAL.
BRING ON PETE'S LE !
Ya right Brett this will be huge for me and I'm so dam excited it's unbelievable even the guys at work are pumped for me lol cause they reckon they never hear the end of it :-) had to sell two nice pins to afford this I'm far from wealthy so to spend 9k on a pinball is massive, I'll have a couple of close friends to enjoy the opening and I'll film it also so I can share with others online so yeah bring it on :)
Peter
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Stern facebook
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NOW its getting interesting. *%*
Man, this is hopefully going to look very very sweet.. hmmmm....which AC/DC LE will reign supreme ("Pinball chef America") %.%
does anyone want to say now which will look better, put your wager down so to speak...
WHICH will be the best looking LE ? Back in Black or Let there Be Rock... or will the Pro look better which is also what some are saying !@# !@# !@#
Gentleman, place your bets ! ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ whats going to be the best looker ? !@# !@#
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Back in black for sure: reason cause that what I ordered :)
Peter
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Back in black for sure: reason cause that what I ordered :)
Peter
+1
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latest info of where to find a ac/dc pro to play - 9 machines
Qld - Brisbane Area > Chermside > Timezone
Qld - Brisbane City > Albert St Mall > Timezone
Qld - Gold Coast Areas > Surfers Paradise > Timezone
NSW - Sydney Area > Tempe > The Stella Inn
NSW - Sydney Area > Alexandria > AMD
NSW - Newcastle Area > Broadmeadow > Pinball and Pizza
Vic - Melbourne Area > South Melbourne > Bumper Action
Vic - Melbourne Area > North Melbourne > Cashbox
WA - Perth Area > Perth > Kids Just Want to Have Fun
Anyone else know of any others that are sited
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Hi Guys,
There are currently 3 Ac/dc Pros available to play in Perth W.A.
These are located at:
* The Spearwood Tavern -432 Rockingham Road Spearwood
* Leisure Island Fun Centre - Carousel shopping centre Albany Highway Cannington
* Kids Just Wanna Have Fun Amusement Hire Showroom - Unit 2 / 5 Goongarrie Street Bayswater.
There will be more arriving soon along with Premiums that will be sited around the places. These will be advised asap.
Regards,
Joe Tripoli
Kids Just Wanna Have Fun Amusement Hire
0408 855722
www.amusements4kids.com.au
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Lucky bastards. There are only 25 Pros in usa. All are going to you guys. Luckily I got one coming to my house.
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BIB Side art?
Peter
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BIB Head Box Art
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yes. now i am considering finding a LE Back in Black as well. Those colours look fantastic. gee this is going to be a nice machine. ^^^
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yes. now i am considering finding a LE Back in Black as well. Those colours look fantastic. gee this is going to be a nice machine. ^^^
I'm tipping the PF color will match the Side art so nice blues and blacks I'm hoping #*#
Peter
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looks spectacular. blue black chrome. anyone waiting for one shld be very happy i would have thought. *%* *%*
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Here are the pieces of the puzzle.
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That Lyman and Steve in the background
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http://www.pingamejournal.com/update/
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Thanks Mr Tilt for the excellent update. That journal update press release is great. Some great info there for sure.
NOTE - its a bit dissapointing to say the least, that people who live n work at Stern in the USA cant even speak english for gods sake. @.@ Steve Ritchie points out they cant speak english on the production line ! I would NEVER have anyone work in my business who cant speak english. I think it is so disrespectful, that you go and live in a english speaking country, and u dont even make the effort to learn the native language. I also hate that trend in Australia. No wonder America is stuffed economically.
At least Stern is making great pinballs. It says something about cost cutting at stern when u have people who cant speak the language working in your business. I mean I believe in saving on costs, but its scraping the bottom of the barrell when your employees cant even communicate directly with your staff. Thats insane.
English speaking Americans who are getting passed over for jobs at that place by non speaking immigrants should be pissed off, I certainly would be. Seems VERY un-american to me. Very un-patriotic indeed. The world is going to the dogs. ! If my NIB Stern turns up with a spanish manual, i will be very pissed.lol %.%
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link
http://www.pingamejournal.com/update/
sorry guys same link as Mr Tilt, probably old news - the 2 LE's and the middle cabinet has different trim and is a premium
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latest photos of the cabinets released this afternoon.
follow link
http://www.pingamejournal.com/update/
sorry guys same link as Mr Tilt, probably old news - looks like the 2 LE's but the middle cabinet has different trim so wonder if that is a premium ???
Why can't I open this link?? can someone pls post pictures on here
Peter
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photo attached
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one more that is new, I think
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The "Premium" and the "Let there be Rock" have the SAME headbox artwork as the Pro, WTF ? now I am confused, that cant be right can it ? surely Not ? !@#
but the sidetrim metal along the side of the cabinets is different for the Premium and the Let there be Rock. ?
how can the headbox artwork on the Premium and the LE Rock be the same as the Pro, and each other ? !@#, something aint right there. ? is that a mistake, or a hybrid, or whats going on.
Also, if u look closely at the paperwork on the first Back in Black, there is a note which says "this machine belongs to Gorgar 1 in Australia, hurry the fark up and deliver it to me".lol %.% %.% %.% ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
whats going on with the same headbox artwork for the premium/Let there be Rock /Pro? !@# !@# maybe those Spanish instructions have krept back in ! lol @.@ %.%
ohhh, and the face edges of the two last games have blue edging on the front leading edges, like the back in black, yeh, so the whole photo aint worth dog do do. Its un-finished, OK, i get it now, someone jumped the gun and took a worthless photo at the Stern factory. (THANKS FOR BLOODY CONFUSING US !- GREAT !
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I posted this on another thread but worthwhile for those guys getting a AC/DC just to be aware of:
http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=8044.0
Just to add to the wear around the flipper buttons, my Iron Man has the Candy Apple Powdercoated Armour Trim and it must be noted that the paint has chipped off (about size of a 5 cent piece but elongated a little) on the left side about 4-5 cms from the button towards the lockdown bar = lots of guys who are married (guessing). I checked the play count and 4200 paid games have been played.
So those people getting a AC/DC - LE or Premium just be aware, though not sure on the solution but you may start to see wear on the left side after a while. Maybe some vinyl start button protectors from pinball pal ????
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I think the cabinet art it only differnet on the BIB ...
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Thanks for the updated pic,Swinks
Cheers
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Brett I just laughed my beer up thats funny mate I pissed myself and cause I've had a few stubbies I tryed to zoom in on that paperwork just in case you where not joking :) not really but your a funny guy oh and thx swinks for uploading pics
Peter
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The "Premium" and the "Let there be Rock" have the SAME headbox artwork as the Pro, WTF ? now I am confused, that cant be right can it ? surely Not ? !@#
but the sidetrim metal along the side of the cabinets is different for the Premium and the Let there be Rock. ?
how can the headbox artwork on the Premium and the LE Rock be the same as the Pro, and each other ? !@#, something aint right there. ? is that a mistake, or a hybrid, or whats going on.
Also, if u look closely at the paperwork on the first Back in Black, there is a note which says "this machine belongs to Gorgar 1 in Australia, hurry the fark up and deliver it to me".lol %.% %.% %.% ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
whats going on with the same headbox artwork for the premium/Let there be Rock /Pro? !@# !@# maybe those Spanish instructions have krept back in ! lol @.@ %.%
ohhh, and the face edges of the two last games have blue edging on the front leading edges, like the back in black, yeh, so the whole photo aint worth dog do do. Its un-finished, OK, i get it now, someone jumped the gun and took a worthless photo at the Stern factory. (THANKS FOR BLOODY CONFUSING US !- GREAT !
It was made very clear right from the first release day that all models would have the same artwork except BIB which has screen printed artwork,the blue tape is covering the chrome stripping on the headbox,thats how t modeling comes off the roll
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NEW (I think) - LE FEATURES BEING RELEASED, HOPEFULLY ALL TRUE.
"I came across this at pinside where a guy got this info from Pinball Bash .
Found this update on Pinball Bash. Implies that this update comes from Steve Ritchie himself! This is looking better and better...
The AC/DC Limited Editions… what you don’t know.
A Hells Bell plastic toy that swings when a pendulum ball attached to the bell is hit. It’s
awesome and it is ours, custom made to my specs. It is beautiful. You bash this thing and
interesting things happen! Watch out!
A hidden magnet below the bell can start the bell swinging without being hit! This is like a mini-golf open-close skill shot, and is fun!
A high-powered ejector pocket behind the bell pendulum ball is used as a lock and shoots the ball out at high-speed under/through the pendulum ball.
It has a beautifully molded *BIG* AC/DC Rock N Roll Train with LED headlight above the left ramp. It is a custom toy that we own and was custom molded to my specs.
An Animated Bandstand with all band members rocking and swaying back and forth, the
drummer raises and lowers his drumsticks, and Angus’ leg kicks out like he is doing the duck walk. It’s like a 4-inch tall by 10-inch long Swiss music box mechanism, and makes people smile! It’s just cool! It always rocks in time with the music.
There’s an extra diverter on the left ramp that feeds a cross-track so that the cannon can be loaded from either ramp.
An animated Highway to Hell multi-LED “Flames Tunnel” that looks like burning fire.
A 5 bank of drop targets with great rebounds and spells AC/DC.
A 3-bank of drops in the center, spell T-N-T and include a SLAM target to hit when all 3 targets are down. The SLAM is inset fairly deeply, so it isn’t a gimme. Some of the rules require that you have to knock all 3 targets down to have a SLAM hit count.
4 standup ROCK targets on the right side, so it is possible to hit targets in all 3 banks with one good shot.
An animated Detonator with a coil that triggers the T.N.T. feature and sits right above the T.N.T. drop targets. It’s just fun to hit, and with our lighting (BEST EVER) the game goes off!!!
A 12-inch woofer and a newly revamped sound system done scientifically that
rocks! (The PRO and Premium still have 8-inch woofers but also benefit from the improved cleaner audio.) Even a deaf man can hear the difference!!!!
A LOWER PLAYFIELD (Hell) with Lexan window, Lit in RED, two smaller (WPT size)
flippers, 3 targets, and a two way orbit shot for fast crazy fun. The ball inside is always there for instant play. It’s fast and furiously fun, especially repeating orbits two ways! It can also be removed for cleaning with 4 screws. This is just one feature that lets me have a bunch of features and the real estate usage of a wide body without the slow play.
“Rosie” has been downplayed a bit, mostly from the standpoint of taste and family game room appeal. There are images of her in the backglass and some on the playfield, but they are from the neck up more or less. An owner/operator will be able to change a software adjustment to allow the full Rosie effect on the dot matrix display.
Beautiful laser cut side armor with a large cannon, lightning bolts, AC/DC logos, etc. The side armor, legs, front molding, and backbox hinge are powder coated glossy bright red in the Let There Be Rock LE model.
The Backbox hinge is also laser cut in the shape of Angus’ guitar, about 10 inches long, and it’s stunning. This is a unique feature.
Both laser cut side armor and hinges have bright yellow gloss backing plates behind them, (for the release of Let There Be Rock LEs) and the look is outrageous.
Lyman’s writing some great rules! Future updates (“Performance Packs”!!!) are promised,
guaranteeing no unfinished code! Lyman gets to work on it until it is a masterpiece.
The LE game is lit with LEDs, including mostly double LEDs and a bunch of different kinds for absolutely stunning lighting out of the box! The game is bright because I have added a lot of LED’s to the LE, over and above the quantity of bulbs in the PRO. Bulbs are more efficient and provide more light than LED’s on the whole, so the Pro looks plenty bright too. There are some great lightshows that are mega-powerful and entertaining!!
We have 4 independently controlled General Illumination zones. The playfield and back panel can be All RED, All WHITE, or All BLUE LEDs, and is its brightest best when all the strings are lit. I could see how someone might want to customize the LEDs even further, but it isn’t necessary. We already did it.
The AC/DC tunes don’t step on themselves!! The game rocks and plays very, very well, but is a very different approach to a pinball game rule set.
The rules are unique and built around the playing of a certain song/mode, but bonus can be accumulated for all other song/modes while playing the one feature song. Our music doesn’t change all the time, and it is more fun than having the music interrupted all the time with new tunes, BUT, the player can change the tune/mode if he wants to!
The music coming out of AC/DC is much higher quality, doesn’t step on itself, and the game is massively entertaining.
We also have 16 multicolor LEDs under clear inserts in key positions! This means that when the three lane change lights above the 3 lanes are green, the lanes light a lock! When they are amber, they can light Extra Ball! When they are purple, completing them can award an instant multiball! Shots can be many things, and the colors will lead you through what you need to do!
We are very excited about this.
The dots display is now all LED’s."
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/acdc-le-update
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Reading the info off the link, suggests this info is from Steve Richie and also that the angus face won't be there.....
Who's switching to a LE ???
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It was made very clear right from the first release day that all models would have the same artwork except BIB which has screen printed artwork,the blue tape is covering the chrome stripping on the headbox,thats how t modeling comes off the roll
thanks Rat(ter)
me and my (Spanish speaking) great grand mother thank you
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It was made very clear right from the first release day that all models would have the same artwork except BIB which has screen printed artwork,the blue tape is covering the chrome stripping on the headbox,thats how t modeling comes off the roll
thanks Rat(ter)
me and my (Spanish speaking) great grand mother thank you
grassy arse
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I can't see anyone getting bored of the LE very quickly
Going to take a while to know all the different rules
bring it on,baby
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Sensational guys. Ssensational.
The artwork being pretty much the same on the Let there be rock, Premium and the Pro makes life a little boring, however, it just means that Gorgar(Pete) is so far the most switched on bloke to take a dig at the Back in Black from day one.
Perhaps the side armour metal will be enough with the different translites to really differentiate the models etc, making them all highly wanted. I think a Premium model will go next to a Pro at my house very well if business stays alright. Its certainly not a given, but it doesnt hurt to dream huh.
Its hard to say really, because the pro is so dam good, and the music package is what this AC/DC machine is really all about. I wonder how many collectors, will end up having a few different AC/DC models in their line up. I think Silverball was already switched on enough to have already ordered a pair. Smart thinking I would say. Notwithstanding, that the money to do this by anyone, cannot be underestimated, because it is alot of money to anyone. But its a great thought to think that someone on AP might end up having a few variants. Pete's place in Melbourne, I think is going to be a very sought after address for the next 12 monhs.lol(lucky bastard).lol
The problem, now is, that anyone who even wants a BIB or LE Rock etc, aint going to be able to find one anyway. Premium here has to be the answer. I didnt think they would sell as many Premiums as Pro's, but i think that theory just went out the window. The premium shld be a great seller after reading that latest Steve Ritchie info.
I am sure, Bruce from AMD and Joe from Interstate are going to have ALOT of new buyers come out of the wood work and want one the moment we all see the models properly the first time.I wonder what our American friends/collectors are thinking IF the large majority of the LE models are heading over seas. I wonder if anyone with a close communication line could find out just how many LE units are staying in the USA. I am sure the various Stern dealers are getting some, but it will be hard to sell extra units given massive demand, a very small run. I mean, how far can the 200 and 300 only go for the whole world ?
You can tell the confidence in the statements made by Steve Ritchie when he talks about the game. You can tell he has a massive amount of confidence with this one.
I wonder if Mr Gomez, and his next title "Resident Evil" can get a leg up and give Mr Ritchie, the king of the Pin, a run for his money.
Thanks again guys for the outstanding info. it just gets better every day ! ^^^ ^^^ and yes, I am rambling and totally obsessed with these new AC/DC Sterns, so sorry for my constant chatting/typing, but it really is alot of positive fun stuff if u are addicted to the pinball hobby. Playing one / a AC/DC pin makes things better (or worse) because that itself revved me up even more. lol
Grassi-Arse as well.lol %.%
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Cavey ,you are one excitable lad
Bet you were a shocker as a kid,coming close to Christmas
How many sleeps til AC/DC Arrives?
Dont worry,I'm looking forward just to seeing some pics of the bloody thing
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Richyrich, I am glad u are scoring your AC/DC machine very very soon. Well done mate. and YES, we expect photos please and a unboxing video etc. Always liked on here.
As for being exciteable, yes, definately bi-polar crazy bastard, yes. too much ram, not enough hard drive up here, or something like that. or both, but there is a definate error area51 happening on a recurring basis. %.%
patience is hard to come by. the world travels too dam slow. i am sure both Pete(Gorgar) and I are the same at the moment. The days cant go fast enough.
Maybe the ac/dc container lands in a month or more, maybe less. wE will have to check with Bruce from AMD, but i know he will let us know in a decent TIME frame anyway. probably gets the same questions 20 times a day so i wont do that to him.lol
and now, I have the next few sterns in my head. Resident Evil. The artwork just has to be right on this one. Pray please they dont dumb it down and leave it dark, morbid, gory and hard edged. (no moving mick targets accross the playfield either doing a dump, that was real bad).
we need more info. i need a job at Stern. things happen too slow in the USA for us aussies.lol %.%
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Latest Stern made video's for AC/DC Pro attached 2 x NEW videos attached, both excellent, both narrated by Steve Ritchie.
http://www.sternpinball.com/Media/Videos/Games/acdc-pro-rules.aspx
and
http://www.sternpinball.com/Media/Videos/Games/acdc-pro-gameplay.aspx
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apparently,the LE'S hit the production line at Stern,last Thursday
I think some pics this week of the playfield and in the finished cabinet
hoorah
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Finally got to play the pro version
Fast and Fun
My first impression, a winner for sure
Great for the price
cant wait to play my BIBLE
I think it will be twice as good
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Wooooo who I'm excited these pic's are better than porn :lol
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Wooooo who I'm excited these pic's are better than porn :lol
Better then porn , wtf are you watching ?
You need some new material lol
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here is a bit of inspiration for the pinball's train
http://www.nervoussquirrel.com/acdc.html
I can't take any credit apart from borrowing it from another site &&
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anyone got any other pics?
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Hey guys apparently there's photos on the net of the LE's with metal ramps Im at work and can't look so someone try
Peter
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nothing on Sternpinball ? what site i wonder ? !@#
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Facebook maybe
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interesting.
www.acdcpinball.com
www.acdcpinball.com is stern's official facebook web page, which is dedicated to the ac/dc pinball. its different to their stern website, but is rather well put together.
there are more pictures here than i have seen before.espescially production line stuff. ^^^
overall, i like the way stern is doing their websites. well done. easy to navigate, and easy to read. ^^^
this link has more photos.
http://acdcpinball.com/?page_id=33
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eight of these LE's coming to South East Queensland (that I know of) YIPPEE!
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Posted on Facebook ???
Is that a sneaky grin there or sinister grin Steve'O
Pinballs, firecrackers, and a pipe?
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time to email Stern and ask for some of their latest pics
I am emailing them NOW
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Email sent
Let you know the outcome
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Email sent
Let you know the outcome
Hopefully you get some PF pics that's what I'm now hanging for.
Peter
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LE not due to mid April now in Australia :(
Peter
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maybe we will get pictures by the end of March
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got a email from Bruce AMD today.
in his containers, ALL AC/DC PRO - SOLD OUT
ALL LE SOLD OUT
ONLY a few PREMIUM AC/dc LEFT
ALL will be here last day or two of March. Same container holds all models.
The next container has a whack of AC/DC Pro which are SOLD as well.
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got a email from Bruce AMD today.
in his containers, ALL AC/DC PRO - SOLD OUT
ALL LE SOLD OUT
ONLY a few PREMIUM AC/dc LEFT
ALL will be here last day or two of March. Same container holds all models.
The next container has a whack of AC/DC Pro which are SOLD as well.
Maybe depends on state? Hope I'm Wrong
Peter
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Saw this on pinside this morning.
Gary Stern is going to have a not so exciting announcement this morning, but with the announcement will have pics of the Long Awaited AC/DC LE and Prem Pinballs!
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FYI
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I hope this guy wipes his fingerprints off Peter's number 1 Back in Black. %.% I told Gary to hide it properly out the back. @.@ %.% %.%
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Saw this on pinside this morning.
Gary Stern is going to have a not so exciting announcement this morning, but with the announcement will have pics of the Long Awaited AC/DC LE and Prem Pinballs!
NOT so exciting news? wonder what that means
Peter
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I hope this guy wipes his fingerprints off Peter's number 1 Back in Black. %.% I told Gary to hide it properly out the back. @.@ %.% %.%
I allowed a couple of Pic's Brett #@#
Peter
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This is an email I got from Stern,this morning
Thanks for your order and your support of our product!
We should have photo's of the Back in Black, Let there be Rock, and the Premium version up on the website in a few days, if not sooner. Nothing available yet.
Shelley Sax
JOAT
Stern Pinball, Inc.
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Thought I was getting number one <.>
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Thought I was getting number one <.>
Doesn't the queen always get the first one!
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FYI
a photo of the photographer ::)
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furst under playfield shot of a LE
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Premium I think judging by side rails?
Peter
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acdc tribute band playing at the souths acacia sports club on the southside of brisvegas on the 15th for anyone into tribute bands....... :lol
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There's a stir in the US that some announcement is going to happen that is going to upset LE buyers - some wild ones and some feasible ones - with one released by the guy who provided the photo below that Stern seriously under estimated the LE sales and rumours of a copper and black limited edition - For Those About To Rock. !@# !@#
Gotta love rumours
LE photos rumoured to be released US time in the morning ( for us late tonight or early tomorrow morning if not on Monday)
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There's a stir in the US that some announcement is going to happen that is going to upset LE buyers - some wild ones and some feasible ones - with one released by the guy who provided the photo below that Stern seriously under estimated the LE sales and rumours of a copper and black limited edition - For Those About To Rock. !@# !@#
Gotta love rumours
LE photos rumoured to be released US time in the morning ( for us late tonight or early tomorrow morning if not on Monday)
Hope it isn't true but that does not suprise me at all...LE is suddenly not that LE after all.
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I hope an extra LE model or extra LE models do come true. ^^^
Extra anything of pinball is good, less is no good. I hoped from day one that they did a extra LE for those who missed out. Why should people miss out if you have money and want to spend it on a brand new pinball. Best to sell an extra 200 LE and keep an extra 200 people happy, plus u get the extra revenue. Last time i checked Stern were in business to make money.
Why should exsisting LE buyers care. Their keeping their LE's. Someone owning an extra LE down the road isnt going to change the fact that you have a LE sitting in your loungeroom. The LE numbers were always loosely based on demand. Demand changes, and so shld extra production with it.
Bring on an extra LE model, or extra LE numbers. Great idea.
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Just don't make anymore BIBLE'S but who knows just ship them pls
Peter
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punters can speculate to the max, sounds like more promotion for the Pro and Premium models
end of the day LE is LE and thats it, want an LE... plenty of Transformers available %.%
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I think to make more LE models would be a short sighted move
No one would ever pre order again,why would you?
You may as well wait til there released,play them and see if its worth the money
Why pre order,if you know if they sell out,they will just make more
Why call it a Limeted Editon
Surely that is why they made a premium model
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I think to make more LE models would be a short sighted move
No one would ever pre order again,why would you?
You may as well wait til there released,play them and see if its worth the money
Why pre order,if you know if they sell out,they will just make more
Why call it a Limeted Editon
Surely that is why they made a premium model
correct
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+1 to that
Stern can do want they want with the next theme .
I think to make more LE models would be a short sighted move
No one would ever pre order again,why would you?
You may as well wait til there released,play them and see if its worth the money
Why pre order,if you know if they sell out,they will just make more
Why call it a Limeted Editon
Surely that is why they made a premium model
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To all the other members that have also ordered a LE, there is no need to worry about all the crap other jealous people are saying because all the LEs are numbered and come with a certificate. End of story!
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I think to make more LE models would be a short sighted move
No one would ever pre order again,why would you?
You may as well wait til there released,play them and see if its worth the money
Why pre order,if you know if they sell out,they will just make more
Why call it a Limeted Editon
Surely that is why they made a premium model
Totally agree
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I am trying to work out who is jealous. thats a very weird comment. its not a matter of people being jealous, its a matter of people not buying it in the first 48 hrs then missing out. God forbid u went away for the weekend with ya family and came home to find out you couldnt get one LE (which has happened with many many unhappy buyers).
I never wanted a LE but many people i know did but missed the boat. I am thrilled with a Pro. More than happy. I am sure there are many Pro buyers who never wanted to spend the extra $3500 for artwork and a few extra features. Each to their own. Thats why they made the $5950 model.
The way it is now doesnt work either. Remember, people are paying $9500 and u dont even get to see the machine. People from outside the pinball hobby (and alot within) would call that madness. Almost 10 k on a coin toss.lol
The problem here is that the business model is not working for pinball collectors if the LE numbers are too low.
What Stern shld have done is made 500 LE BIB, and 500 LTBRock LE.
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you can still buy a LE today on ebay if you want one.
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I dont want one. but since u mentioned it, are u talking about the USA ebay for anyone who may be interested in a LE LTBR ?
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I dont want one. but since u mentioned it, are u talking about the USA ebay for anyone who may be interested in a LE LTBR ?
In Melbourne from cashbox amusements
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The Announcement
"Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,
The response to all models of our AC/DC pinball machine has been
overwhelming. This is a great game with a great title, great music and
great art, executed by 2 great designers - Steve Ritchie and Lyman
Sheats. I have attached some pictures of the AC/DC Limited Edition and
Premium models, which I know you will agree are absolutely stunning.
The first photo shows all three of these versions, with Let There Be
Rock LE on the left, Premium in the center and Back in Black LE on the
right. The playfield photos represent all 3 of these versions, as the
playfield is the same in each.
We have just completed production of our first batch of AC/DC Pro
games. We started production of AC/DC Limited Edition and Premium
models this week. As is normal practice, we are starting with Export
models of the LE and Premium models. We will make more AC/DC Pro over
the next months, breaking into the LE and Premium production
periodically. We are working with our suppliers to increase our
production rate. At the current production rate, it will be late April
before we fill all of our current orders. All of our LE models are
sold. We will make some Premium and Pro's available for new orders
during this production run.
We are sold out of Big Buck Hunter, Avatar, The Rolling Stones, Tron
Pro, and Transformers Pro. We are accepting orders for these models in
order to schedule future production. We are nearly sold out of
Transformers LE Combo, which will end the LE run for this title.
We thank you in advance for your patience.
Best regards,
Gary
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Looks like the rumour was wrong - I think by the statement from Gary - Expect Delays to fulfil all orders > end of April
As for design can see:
- a new train
- a bike diverter on the left side I thinking linking to a SS ramp thing across the playfield to the flame tunnel
- pinball ball donger on the bell
- no angus head - under playfield
- drops
- perspex flame tunnel on the right
- moving band figures on a graphic detailed perspex panel
amongst other things
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website just updated with more detailed photos of the ramps and features
http://www.sternpinball.com/Games/acdc-le-and-premium.aspx
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Nice up date swinks ^^^
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AC/DC Premium Model-- Additional Features:
“Underworld” Lower Mini-Playfield W/2 Flippers, Angus Face and Targets
Hells Bell Swinging Newton Ball Pendulum W/Score Sensor
Hidden Magnet Pendulum Attractor To Start Bell Swinging Remotely
Molded 3D "Rock N Roll" Train With LED Headlight and Horns
5 Bank AC/DC Drop Targets (on left)
3 Bank T.N.T. Drop Targets (in center)
SLAM Action Target Behind Center TNT Drop Target
Crossover Ball Track w/Diverter From Left Ramp To Right Ramp
T.N.T. Detonator Animated W/Solenoid Actuated Handle
Animated Band Member Display
“Highway To Hell” Animated LED Flames Tunnel
“Back In Black” Super Bright LED Strobe Lights
Wedge-Based LED GIs
LED Control Lamps including 16 Tri-Color LEDs Under Key Inserts
Classic Lock Down Asssembly and Playfield Slide Supports
Unique Backglass Translite
Red Gloss Power Coated Legs, Hinges, Front Molding, and Side Armour
with Flipper Button Protection
AC/DC Limited Editions: Back In Black & Let There Be Rock
--Additional Features:
Unique Mirrored Backglass for each LE model
"Shake And Quake" Shaker Motor
12” Subwoofer for Enhanced Sound Performance
Designer Autograph Under Playfield Hard Coat
Numbered Plaque (Back In Black:1-300 ; Let There Be Rock: 1-200)
Authenticating Stern Pinball Inc., Official Product Hologram
Signed Certificate Of Authenticity
Laser Cut, Glossy Powdercoat Side Armor With Backing Plates
Matching Laser Cut Backbox Hinges
Matching Laser Cut Legs and Front Molding
Red Transparent Lower Arch
Unique Silk Screened Cabinet Decal Artwork
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Is it just me or do those inserts in the lower playfield look out of place?
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Is it just me or do those inserts in the lower playfield look out of place?
Still better than the Angus head!
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Looking very good
Glad they export,first
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Is it just me or do those inserts in the lower playfield look out of place?
Still better than the Angus head!
Anything is better than that thing.
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$#$ LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT money well spent it looks awesome "bring it on"
Peter
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$#$ LOVE IT LOVE IT LOVE IT money well spent it looks awesome "bring it on"
Peter
Well said, Peter
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Is it just me or do those inserts in the lower playfield look out of place?
Way out of place, it looks like they already had the mini PFs routed ready to print the angus head on it, when they had to react to people saying how shit it looks so they just changed the artwork to flames !@#
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As for design can see:
- a bike diverter on the left side I thinking linking to a SS ramp thing across the playfield to the flame tunnel
I think you'll find that is two cannons crossed not a push bike
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The playfield on the LE models look so close to the pro model, I had to look twice. Perhaps they could have incorporated more blue/chrome onto the LE Back in Black, to give the machine a different look n feel. A few subtle things could have made a big difference, and then done something similar with the LE LTB Rock model.
Another thing they could have taken from Transformers LE was to change the leg colours on the different LE models, again to make them more visually different.
Perhaps some might look at doing that with a spare set of legs to make some bling/mods.
The lower playfield on the LE was obviously changed due to early criticism of the Angus Head on the Pro. The fact remains that in person, the head on the Pro looks really good, and fits really well with the machine. Most people have commented that the head isnt as big a deal, as first thought, myself included.
The LE lower playfield looks bland compared to the Pro's playfield which I find dissapointing. Maybe its better in person as well. ? there is not much going on down there either. Like the lower PF on CONGO, its more of a gimmick/game interuptor/sidetrack to normal gameplay, but offers nothing huge.?
We just need the video now of the LE in action. It wont be huge compared to the Pro, but the use of the scoring/game rules with the lower PF/dot matrix displays shld be interesting.
Does anyone else think the LE could have been more different to make it a different feeling game for the extra $$. I ask this cause I hope the next Stern title will bring out a LE which feels/looks more radically different.
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As for design can see:
- a bike diverter on the left side I thinking linking to a SS ramp thing across the playfield to the flame tunnel
I think you'll find that is two cannons crossed not a push bike
Your right, it was early when I posted - quick glance and just thought of one of those penny farthing things.
As for the flame boy in the lower playfield wonder if the light rectangles will change colours - you would think they could at least screen print some sort of eye graphic over it with todays tech....
With all respect Cavey I had to have a little laugh as you sounded a little bummed about the LE - almost $3k for not much more, but it is a LE %.% %.% %.%. I do understand though compared to what the WOZ sounds like it is going to have - various quality toys / features with the LE's just a little more $ because it is blinged up. I am sure the guys getting a LE especially a BIBLE will be stoked. I think the guys getting a Premium get a great deal really.
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the inserts have apparently multi-colour changing leds in them.
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Well I was right all along
I rember posting that the lower playfield of the LE would be in flames!!!!!
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your on fire mate ! (can the jokes get any worse.lol)
i have a burning desire to play a ac/dc pinny. @.@
where the hell is my machine @.@
"what did the ac/dc pinball say to its owner after a 2 hour marathon game ?" >> "you shook me all night long" (boom boom) @.@ @.@ &^& &^&
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Just looked at the pics on sterns web site,
I don't like the look of the flames in the lower playfield on the LE's, that's just my opinion YUK!!!
It looks to me that they were going to put the big angus face in the lower playfield BUT then changed their minds !@#, the inserts still look like a face???
The train however does looks awesome, big improvement from the train on the pro version.
I have to agree with Brett, I'm strugling to see the extra value of $3,250 in the limited edition model vs the pro edition???
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In regards to the lower PF by memory there's color changing LEDs so that may light up in all different colors hi lighting the flames but we will see! Extra 3k I'm very happy I went the LE no problem there just get them here Gary :-)
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hint hint
But you would like to see the prices come down on the next Stern LE's titles/releases wouldnt you Peter ? && &&
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Swinksy, to be honest with you, I am a bit dissapointed with Stern. I mean, I want to be positive about everything in pinball. I want Stern to produce machines, I am grateful they produce machines, I have recognition that they have the talents and man power, innovation and skills to make new pinball machines, but there are a few things, that if i was to be brutally honest about, there are a few things which piss me off, and should piss off alot of other people as well.
The LE models, and the way Stern is doing it is a blatant money grab, which is in no way value for money at all to the end consumer. I want to sit down one day and have a coffee with Gary Stern when I visit his Stern factory in the next 12 months cause thats something i would like to do, but I have to also be honest by making some direct and honest opinions that I cant seem to just shake. Having said that, I still love Stern/the company/the people, but i just think that the customer is mostly right, and the honest feedback is what is best.
On the Transformers LE, its a $8250 machine, compared with the $6350 Pro. (and these prices are current, without further discounts which may or not be available via Aust Stern agents because of the aust dollar. That means you are getting a Pro for $1900 less than a LE, or a LE for $1900 more than the Pro. Given a shaker motor comes with the LE, and its a $220 item, the real difference is $1680, lets say $1700. On the LE Transformers, I just couldnt justify the $ difference, after playing both.
So, u buy the Pro and save the money if u feel the same. But my argument, is that perhaps there shld just be a machine, that has what the LE has, to start with. If u called it a $1000 difference, u MIGHT just argue the side armour, different paint, different lockdown bar, and a few small playfield changes are worth the grand. BUT $1700, no way. Its just not value for money in my honest opinion.
Then u get to the AC/DC pins, and the LE difference in price jumps to $3250. Thats double of the Transformers LE price variance, for again, what.?
How can the difference in pricing now be doubled. There were 500 LE Transformers made, there are 500 total AC/DC LE made. Why a pro-rata price jump of almost another $1700 on top of the already upmarked $1700. This is NOT value for money in anyway shape or form.
Some people would say that the PRO version of a Stern pinny, has the absolute, or less than absolute basics, compared to say the 1996 to 1998 models of Segas/late Data Easts etc etc. Even the LE models still dont have the same mechanicals and toys of the early to mid 90's machines. So why pay thousands of dollars extra, for machines, that even in LE form, arent up to the features of machines from the nineties. When u have 35 machines , all dmd machines to compare to, its a sobering realistic truth that Stern still has to lift its game ALOT for the $$ they are charging. The current games, need more mechanical toys n more features to be valued as good as the late 90's stuff in my opinion.
My honest feedback to Stern, or Stern's Aust agents, is that they need to pass on what I have said, back to Stern USA, because, the $3250 price jump, compared to the Pro, is absurd. How can it be justified to have doubled between the transformers LE and the AC/DC Le pro-rata.?
If u have bought a LE AC/DC, and u feel that the pricing is high ($9250 is alot of money in anyones book) I say u shld give feedback to Stern, and say whilst u are happy with the machine, in future, u feel that the pricing difference, and subsequest massive price hike is not acceptable on the next model. If u dont, expect to keep paying through the nose, for a LE model, that u have to order sight unseen, which again, is madness.
I just think the pricing is absurdly too high in Australia. Unless people complain/give feedback, it will stay too high for the next LE models.
Also, when u look at the prices in the USA, even when u work out the shipping costs to Australia, pro-rata, again, our LE models are at least $1,600 more, take away shipping, and its still $1000 minimum on top of the USA prices. Something isnt right. The Stern guys in Australia should make profit, but the figures dont add up and are too high pro-rata no matter how u look at it.
I will pen a email to Stern and give my feedback, whether it does anygood or not, I dont know, but someone needs to ask why the massive price jump ontop of the Transformers LE. Otherwise, we are destined for outrageously priced Sterns for the future.(and yes, its only my opinion, so it doesnt mean i am right or wrong on the issue, its just an opinion). ^^^
Brett your forgetting in the early 90's NIB pinballs where around 8.5 k so twenty years later we are doing ok I reckon
And there's license costs so I bought one and I'm happy
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The Transformers LE's 1-35 were $8750...extra $300 for designers signature
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on the next LE, if they charge the same hiked $$, compared to a Pro at $5950,
for the extra $3,250 you pay/get
*$1000 extra - for a different translite
*$1000 extra - for side armour n lockdown bar paint
*$1000 extra - for half a dozen small playfield add ons
$250 shaker motor (which is fine)
* value for money, NOT
Ok, end of LE pricing complaints from me. ^^^
* dont mind me today, I am just in a complaining mood. @.@
Good Now stop complaining ha ha
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the impatience of waiting for my PRO to turn up is giving me the shits.lol @.@ %.% %.%
unfortunately, the yanks have to be all the way over the other side of the bloody world. a tad inconvenient. &^& %.%
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Hey Cavey whens your Transformers coming (I know off topic, but may ease the pain) - played the Transformers LE that was in Norberts office today in downtown Belmont - great game, seems like a deep rule set.
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I think the pics dont do them justice
I recon they will all look a lot better ,when your in front of them #*#
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The 3 x machines all look great. Premiums, LE BIB and LE LTBR all look T'riffic. Pro looks great too ofcourse.
Swinksy, beause I had a 8 grand $$ medical operation last week, I asked to have the Transformers delivered with the AC/DC Pro, just incase the operation didnt go right and I had to fork out extra $$, but all is well. So, with the AC/DC Pro in 3 or 4 weeks etc.
I am seriously considering ordering a TRON and a AVATAR from Bruce at AMD as well very shortly. The Pro prices are fine, and represent value for money if you like new Sterns.
If i wasnt going to open a "Pinball World" or something like that on the Gold Coast sooner or later, i wouldnt buy extra STERNS, but given I want a large contingent of machines that represent the whole of the Pinball industry, the Sterns are a must have really. I have a mate who has a SHREK in his personal collection which I will buy sooner or later, and someone else has a FAMILY GUY which i want.
There are still more 1990's DMD machines I am collecting as well. Titles like terminator 2, Getaway HS 2, Star Wars Data East, Addams Family, Twilight Zone, plus 3 or 7 more others at least which I want to cover most of all the great 1990's dmd's that I dont have. I want people to walk into the Pinball World and say its over stocked versus understocked. Nothing is for sale, just a place for pinheads to call home and play anything in there. It has to have all the machines u would expect if i am to hang a large neon sign on the front of it.lol I just want a place I can open to the public and get new people interested in pinball. I would also like to sell new Sterns from there and will just order numbers from Bruce at AMD. If i make a dollar great, but its not a money making exercise, with my financial focus required on my security business which i can piggy back and run from the same premises as the pinball place (seperated internally/externally).
I need to do something extra with my time since i sleep few hours and am usually bored shitless, even though i am still busy in my security business. Anyway, everyone has something they want to do with their time n energy.lol The gold coast is a perfect place for a pinball world given the millions of tourists every year. A walk up start i would have thought. I still want the LE prices to be more reasonable. I think its important for future healthy Stern sales of LE in Australia.
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Brett your enthusiasms for Pinball is bigger then Ben Hur , and your love for acdc is massive so to settle your adrenaline some what I thought that we should all chip in and buy you this .
Its the least we can do *%*
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-AC-DC-Schoolboy-Costume-Men-Adult-Slim-Fit-Soft-T-shirt-tee-top-S-M-L-XL-2XL-/200658263094?pt=US_Mens_Tshirts&var=&hash=item746c1d1bff#ht_2381wt_1143
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Brett your enthusiasms for Pinball is bigger then Ben Hur , and your love for acdc is massive so to settle your adrenaline some what I thought that we should all chip in and buy you this .
Its the least we can do *%*
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-AC-DC-Schoolboy-Costume-Men-Adult-Slim-Fit-Soft-T-shirt-tee-top-S-M-L-XL-2XL-/200658263094?pt=US_Mens_Tshirts&var=&hash=item746c1d1bff#ht_2381wt_1143
+1 %.%, I think you should get yourself one of these Brett for opening night.
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Brett your enthusiasms for Pinball is bigger then Ben Hur , and your love for acdc is massive so to settle your adrenaline some what I thought that we should all chip in and buy you this .
Its the least we can do *%*
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-AC-DC-Schoolboy-Costume-Men-Adult-Slim-Fit-Soft-T-shirt-tee-top-S-M-L-XL-2XL-/200658263094?pt=US_Mens_Tshirts&var=&hash=item746c1d1bff#ht_2381wt_1143
+1 %.%, I think you should get yourself one of these Brett for opening night.
Now just checking, is that the Pro T-Shirt or LE T-Shirt?
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thanks guys. %.%
I was thinking more of a gold coast modelling agency full of hot babes wearing bikinis for the opening night..
and a pinball calender, with hot models sounds like a new idea as well. #@# #@# ^^^
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FOR SALE,you asked the question in one of your posts Brett about would anyone be selling their LE ect.I will be selling mine as i am not happy with the finished machine.I do not want to piss other LE buyers off but as i have forked out for an LE model i will put up my thoughts about this version.I might be wrong but from the pics shown to me there are a few things not there that were supposed to be,Matching Laser cut legs and Matching Laser cut front moulding ?,Hells Bell TOY as put on SR list of things that are on this machine?.As i said maybe i cannot see these things but from the pics where ?.Stern stuffed up the lower playfield in my opinion,the cutout was made for a FACE,so once they canned that and changed to FLAMES it looks crap with those inserts in there.This was a late change from Stern and should never have been finished this way.Then we go to the Flames Tunnel,WHAT FLAMES TUNNEL,a tunnel for me is something you go through/under a semi circle type cover i thought would have covered a section of the ramp.So we get a perspex flat panel with some LEDS behind it,it looks cheap.The band member display,i was thinking they would be on a stage in a 3d type charactors thing doing their movements ect,once again flat figures does not look good to me.Overall i like the rest of machine but i think they could have done better without rushing this title.This is the first and last time i buy an LE model, putting cash in without seeing the end result is just too many headaches.Good luck to all the LE buyers out there and i hope you all have a blast playing this game and are happy with it.
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FOR SALE,you asked the question in one of your posts Brett about would anyone be selling their LE ect.I will be selling mine as i am not happy with the finished machine.I do not want to piss other LE buyers off but as i have forked out for an LE model i will put up my thoughts about this version.I might be wrong but from the pics shown to me there are a few things not there that were supposed to be,Matching Laser cut legs and Matching Laser cut front moulding ?,Hells Bell TOY as put on SR list of things that are on this machine?.As i said maybe i cannot see these things but from the pics where ?.Stern stuffed up the lower playfield in my opinion,the cutout was made for a FACE,so once they canned that and changed to FLAMES it looks crap with those inserts in there.This was a late change from Stern and should never have been finished this way.Then we go to the Flames Tunnel,WHAT FLAMES TUNNEL,a tunnel for me is something you go through/under a semi circle type cover i thought would have covered a section of the ramp.So we get a perspex flat panel with some LEDS behind it,it looks cheap.The band member display,i was thinking they would be on a stage in a 3d type charactors thing doing their movements ect,once again flat figures does not look good to me.Overall i like the rest of machine but i think they could have done better without rushing this title.This is the first and last time i buy an LE model, putting cash in without seeing the end result is just too many headaches.Good luck to all the LE buyers out there and i hope you all have a blast playing this game and are happy with it.
I am sorry to hear that mate, I hope when the game arrives you are happy with it and it becomes a long time stayer in your lineup but I would never buy anything sight unseen or unplayed, not tried on etc etc.
Even if another Marvel pin is released I will be waiting to play it before I decide to buy it and Marvel pins are pretty much all I want gamewise but I won't be taking a leap of faith.
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Like the pro hopefully it looks better in the flesh and with all the color changing LEDs and so on it'll look the goods I must admit the music box is dissapointing it looks abit cheap
Peter
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Like the pro hopefully it looks better in the flesh and with all the color changing LEDs and so on it'll look the goods I must admit the music box is dissapointing it looks abit cheap
Peter
Lets hope so
I think it will
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Totally agree with your comments Cow Corner,i had made a statement before that i would never purchase a machine sight unseen,BUT being a big ACDC fan i will admit that i got caught up in the hype a bit also.I am also a fan of the Marvel type movies ect and was looking forward to a pin with this theme maybe being made.I had already spoken to the misses about buying some future new releases from Stern or JJ if they appealed to me.After this purchase things have changed for me as i will not get sucked into buying an LE version from any of the makers,as i want to see the finished machine before buying and if that means i miss out so be it.
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At the end of the day, I reckon they have done a cracker of a job on the Pro, but I am a little miffed about the blandness on the LE with the lower playfield ?
Luckily for me, I bought a CONGO machine 6 months ago and got to see n feel the lower playfield on that model, and got a real feel for what a lower PF does or doesnt do. And it doesnt really do diddly. But it is different. What Stern shld have done with the lower playfield, was incorporated something new, and something that is a bit harder or just something that does something better. It was because of this, and knowing that the under playfield was going to be a bit boring, i went with the Pro.
On CONGO, the Gorilla is what hits the ball, so its a backwards situation to the flippers on the LE. Now being backwards, makes you have to think backwards when hitting the flippers which roughens up your hand eye co-ordination better for a while, that makes the under playfield design on Congo better than the LE AC/DC. With the Congo under PF, u are hitting the ball towards u, not away from you. That makes it a little fun, not huge, but JUST enough to say its worth having.
I think honestly, if you or anyone bought a Back in Black, because of the unique blue/black colours u have done alot better than the other LE, on looks alone. Does the blue fit in with the playfield colours when u stand in front of it, I am leaning towards no, not really, but from afar the blue/black looks great. I dont like the Premium backglass, so that was out for me, and I think the Pro has a better translite than the Premium.
The Pro ands the LE will play different, because of the under playfield etc.I personally think the under playfield real estate wasnt used properly, and reckon the artwork on the Pro without the under PF will be liked alot more, maybe even by LE owners after they play both. When u stare at the Angus head on the Pro, it actually looks great when u play it. I am wondering when u play the LE, will staring into a relatively empty window with only basic flames be enough eye candy. The window detracts from the artwork, it hasnt increased it. Look, if the LE was only $1500 to $1700 more than the Pro, i think most LE owners would be very happy, but at 3 plus grand for the differences, I dont know, i think alot of people will be let down with the lower Playfield.
People will still love their LE models, dont get me wrong, but i wonder how many will play the Pro, and think the extra money was not as well spent on the LE as thought. I think Stern made a big mistake on the under playfield artwork. That alone has changed the whole feel for the LE. I bet any money, they change the Premium artwork down there relatively quickly IF any LE buyers complain to Stern after their machine arrives IF the flames dont look as good as they want.
Maybe, in person, the under PF art will look alot better, just like the angus head on the Pro looks fine.
But having said all that, how many machines in the last 20 have had a under playfield ? none, so just by having one there, may be enough difference to keep people happy too. One of the reasons I play Congo, is cause I can smash the ball repeatedly with the gorilla under the playfield, its not a huge thing, but its different enough to play it sometimes. I reckon most people will just hear the music on any of the ac/dc models, be blown away by the music, and will be happy anyway. No machine is perfect. The next LE just has to be less expensive, back to the LE transformers pricing or less in this now competitive market where companies need to fight to get your dollar.
Does anyone think they might make some changes to the Premium ?
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I don't think there will be any change to the premium and with color changing LEDs in the lower PF it'll look great and with the sound and so on I'm sure it'll be a beauty
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I wouldnt mind buying a Premium, because its different enough, but i need to see the translite in person. Its amazing how bloody picky we can be as buyers.lol @.@
The music on these machines are going to blow people away. i dont think people realise just yet how GREAT the music is on this machine(s). The loudness and clarity is world class. I mean, only on apx 3 outta 10, on the volume control, its as good as any home stereo worth a few grand, and that was the Pro !, the LE' s have a better audio system again.
Every wife in Australia is just about to be rocked, whether they like it or not. lol %.% %.% %.%
better hide the credit cards boys, the wifes are going to be looking to leave the house on a regular basis. %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.%
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I wouldnt mind buying a Premium, because its different enough, but i need to see the translite in person. Its amazing how bloody picky we can be as buyers.lol @.@
The music on these machines are going to blow people away. i dont think people realise just yet how GREAT the music is on this machine(s). The loudness and clarity is world class. I mean, only on apx 3 outta 10, on the volume control, its as good as any home stereo worth a few grand, and that was the Pro !, the LE' s have a better audio system again.
Every wife in Australia is just about to be rocked, whether they like it or not. lol %.% %.% %.%
better hide the credit cards boys, the wifes are going to be looking to leave the house on a regular basis. %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.% %.%
I'm glad I'm not married then... :lol
Better than a home system worth a few grand....highly doubtfull. Yeah it does have good music and it sounds great but it is not in the same league as mine or most peoples home theatre setup...not even the same sport.
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Great to see some kids enjoying themselves
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Great to see some kids enjoying themselves
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Great vid there are a couple of future ACDC fans ^^^.
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Daz, when i said the quality coming out of the ac/dc pinny was as good as a few grand stereo, i meant it. ^^^
I have the best surround sound systems money can buy, and when u crank up the audio on the ac/dc its that loud n clear, u CANT tell its not from a expensive stereo.
The one u played onsite would have been turned right down, compared to the Pro we gave a work out at AMD. anyway, u know what i mean anyway.lol ^^^
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Daz, when i said the quality coming out of the ac/dc pinny was as good as a few grand stereo, i meant it. ^^^
I have the best surround sound systems money can buy, and when u crank up the audio on the ac/dc its that loud n clear, u CANT tell its not from a expensive stereo.
The one u played onsite would have been turned right down, compared to the Pro we gave a work out at AMD. anyway, u know what i mean anyway.lol ^^^
We will have to agree to disagree on that one mate..sorry.
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cavey,he has not played it.as you have worked out by now.lol. ()
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cavey,he has not played it.as you have worked out by now.lol. ()
Yeah I have played it... *%* quite a few times actually.
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Damo, yeh, the stereo is crystal clear and the volume goes WAY UP and doesnt get crackly, even turned up so loud, u could hear it a street away.
the pro was like a bloody juke box it was that good. onsite ofcourse, the machine would probably not be turned up at all so u wouldnt even get a chance to fully understand the quality stern has come up with. ALOT of people are going to be impressed with what stern has done with the audio on this machine.
i am wondering if the next stern titles keep the same sound upgrades, or if it goes back to the previous way.
for the hell of it, I am going to write stern a email and ask since i am bored.lol
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A 12-inch woofer (!!!), and a newly revamped (!!!!!!!!!!) sound system done scientifically that rocks! (The PRO and Premium still have 8-inch woofers but also benefit from the improvedcleaner audio.) Even a deaf man can hear the difference!!!! #*#
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A 12-inch woofer (!!!), and a newly revamped (!!!!!!!!!!) sound system done scientifically that rocks! (The PRO and Premium still have 8-inch woofers but also benefit from the improvedcleaner audio.) Even a deaf man can hear the difference!!!! #*#
bring on the Premiums and Le's! wonder how many games before these songs get repiticous
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I dont think it will get boring. The Pro is such a fast player. 12 songs will be fine to keep ya entertained enough. Can u ever get sick of acca dacca.
just have to find a new girlfriend every 3 months to share it with.lol %.%
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I go back & forth playing the 2 demo's I have. Funny how there are many pro's around the world & they are less than 100 in the USA. I'm sure once Stern keeps cranking them out for their domestic market, there should be lots of sales. All the LE's sold quickly in Canada from our distributor along with the pro's, so only pro's & premiums becoming available this month or April in Canada.
This pin is fast, will kick your ass, has great songs & game play. Looks awesome except the vinyl Stern applies is kind of cheap & can be applied better for alignment. I have 2 that weren't perfect, one is off 1/2" from bottom front, some have peeling at corners (adhesive), one had a knife cut at front bottom AC/DC, cabinets could get a better coating of black paint around buttons.
I'm still trying to see if I have a switch problem, sometimes no recognition at top lanes & bottom lane switches. Stern suggested I switch mpu's which I did, seems like the problem still there at times. I'm still on original code, so maybe this is a bug.
Overall very impressed with this pin, Stern has finally awoken to the threat of some competition from Jersey Jack. If your thinking about a NIB purchase, get the pro.
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Focus on what I am writing here please , not anything else .
Thanks for the input , I read a dealer has problems with 4 cabinets , he's customers want the cabinets replaced because of dodgy work man ship . Don't know the out come ?
QUESTIONS
Where's the quality controll ?
Has there been problems like this in the pass ?
Will the problems continue ?
Do they care ?
Will they fix the issue ?
Do they closely inspect each pinball before they are Boxed
Do they (Mexicans) Box damaged pinball , behind management's back ?
It's a lucky dip guys , good luck .There's no perfect cabinet ,you may need to do some touch up when yours is unboxed or just leave it as it is .
I visited the Stern factory for a day , Gary is a top bloke , he treated my family like royalty and we had a great time there and he is a friend .
I observe the process on long the production line . When I sat down with Jack , one of the first things I told him , see if you can get rid of them bloody trolleys , they cause half the problems , there like dodgem cars in his factory .
Jack has address that issue , been a new factory comes a new process which JJP will inplement . Gary may stay with his old old system , but it would be a massive job to change over ,
The cabinet I saw at JJP was a piece of furniture ( awesome) it's heavy as ,I mean heavvvvvy , lets hope everything turns out well with JJP , and Gary can meet the market on QC .
Gary decals and cabinets are subbed out , so you can't directly blame him , but where's the quality control form him to send them back before they build the bloody thing .
Bit grumpy today , I am .
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Bit grumpy today , I am .
You don't say, Yoda!!
Interesting observations from someone who has seen things first hand.
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Gary decals and cabinets are subbed out , so you can't directly blame him , but where's the quality control form him to send them back before they build the bloody thing
Yes you can blame him directly, same as when i contract subbies.. they fall under my company and my control.. the buck stops with me, thats why WHO you hire is just as important as what they do. I do vinyl signs, laminate print signs all the time. Often i have to employ help to put these up while im onsite erecting the main signage. If they cock up, the business owner comes to ME to get it sorted which i do at my own expense... then again, it doesnt happen cos i only employ those i know are 100% cpapable.
Stern have these cabinets in the factory BEFORE going out... there is absolutely NO excuse for bodgy workmanship to leave the shop floor... unless you dont care that is
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WOW. I am thinking the cabinet issue(s) are a one off. I mean things are put together by wage earning humans. It happens in every factory in the world, rightly or wrongly.
When a brand new machine arrives at your house, we ALL hope that the machines will be damage and mark free. If its not, well then u contact your local STERN agent.
But I am not worried, I have seen a hundred new sterns at peoples houses, and never seen a issue yet.
One point John(greatwichkohn) made, was that "there are so many Pro's all over the world", BUT they arent all over the world YET. Like Australia, only a small amount of half a dozen units each have been sent out and only to a few countries, for dealers to have on their showroom floors to sell other machines off. In fact, if the USA has over 100 out in the wild/at dealers businesses, that means u guys have more out n about than any other country.
I reckon the Pro will sell here like hot cakes, and probably to people who want one in their home bar etc. Some cashed up people will pay the $8200 for a premium, instead of the $5950 for the Pro, but it will probably be a high percentage of Pro's being sold into new homes. maybe the Premium wont sell as much, perhaps it might get a price drop or a extra few things like side armour (better side armour) in order to sell more of that premium design.
One thing is for certain, AC/DC has been excellent for the pinball hobby/industry world wide, which is a positive thing to see. I wonder how many countries for interest are getting imports of the AC/DC pinnys ? !@#
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So are we looking at first week in April still for Pro's and LE's into Australia?
Peter
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Bruce from AMD says YES in a recent email to me and confirms container due ontime, barring any hassles/hold ups with Aust customs etc. ^^^
(all machines for VIC,NSW,QLD etc go to AMD in Sydney for distribution).
Joes (kidswannahavefun) container(s) go straight to him from the USA.
Any machines airfreighted in, also always go to AMD for distribution also.
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Cheers Brett thank
Peter
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A little Steve Ritchie update
March 11, 2012--PinGame Journal EXCLUSIVE --AC/DC LE UPDATE FROM STEVE RITCHIE! Here's another "almost live" update on AC/DC LE and Premium edition progress direct from Stern.
“It’s Sunday, the fourth of March at 4:52 pm and I’m here at Stern STILL WORKING! I want to leave no stone unturned to make these games their best. We have about 30 games built but they’re not finished yet. It’s now all about the little things: I’m designing red “horn” plastics to fit between the lower and upper playfields that will cover the LED so you don’t see the bare light in the horns. Also, I have been asking Lyman to make a mini golf shot using the Bell. Make the bell swing with the magnet and then entice the player to shoot the hole behind it.
You won't believe how cool the LE and Premiums look when they’re all lit up! Some people here have been saying that the game has the best lighting ever on a factory machine. There are more than 140 LEDs. We have established four general illumination zones and I have spread red, blue and white DOUBLE LEDs around the board, so the entire playfield can be red, white, blue or any combination, as well as lighting up the lower playfield (dare I say ... HELL?) all red or off. All zones have 100 dimness levels! I can’t wait until people get to see these games!"
http://www.pingamejournal.com/update/
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Sounds Great
I think it will look a lot better " in the flesh" than it does in the pics
I also think the game play will be unreal
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If there still designing plastics on the 4th March and only 30 built how are we going to see these the 1st week of April?
Peter
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LE turned on
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If there still designing plastics on the 4th March and only 30 built how are we going to see these the 1st week of April?
Peter
Better to get them 100% and a bit later
than getting them early and having probs
Look on the bright side :D
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If there still designing plastics on the 4th March and only 30 built how are we going to see these the 1st week of April?
Peter
Better to get them 100% and a bit later
than getting them early and having probs
Look on the bright side :D
I'm trying but I'm impatient lol
Peter
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HOT UPDATE !!! !!!
Just got a email from Bruce AMD. and he got a email from Gary Stern,
THERE IS NOW a 2 x week delay in shipping of the containers due to the hold up with the LE machines ! It doesnt say specifically on Garys email, but Bruce has been advised of the short delay. Best they get it right before shipping. Machines look great. (copy email from Gary below)
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,
The response to all models of our AC/DC pinball machine has been overwhelming. This is a great game with a great title, great music and great art, executed by 2 great designers - Steve Ritchie and Lyman Sheats. I have attached some pictures of the AC/DC Limited Edition and Premium models, which I know you will agree are absolutely stunning.
The first photo shows all three of these versions, with Let There Be Rock LE on the left, Premium in the center and Back in Black LE on the right. The playfield photos represent all 3 of these versions, as the playfield is the same in each.
We have just completed production of our first batch of AC/DC Pro games. We started production of AC/DC Limited Edition and Premium models this week. As is normal practice, we are starting with Export models of the LE and Premium models. We will make more AC/DC Pro over the next months, breaking into the LE and Premium production periodically. We are working with our suppliers to increase our production rate. At the current production rate, it will be late April before we fill all of our current orders. All of our LE models are sold. We will make some Premium and Pro's available for new orders during this production run.
We thank you in advance for your patience.
Best regards,
Gary
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Played it again today to gauge the audio, I asked to turn the sound up and they obliged, it does sound very good..... but...all you hear is acdc and associated pinball noises...ummm this is not a fair and proper gauge of a decent sound system..Maybe if you could plug some different DTS..SRD..SDDS feeds into it to get a real example of what the sound could do then I MIGHT feel differently but this does nothing to change my mind. It is a pinball machine not a theatre system.
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your right, but for a pinball machine, it sounds as good as anything crystal clear coming from a stereo before you turn it up to silly levels. Pro owners will be happy, LE owners will be over the dam moon. *%*
i think people will be happy having a machine cranked up to buggery in their house. put it this way, every basterd in my street will know when i am playing tyhe AC/DC machine.lol
(what shits me, is when the wife n kids go to bed, i will be regulated to turn it way down !!! !!! !!! !!! !!!)
!@# !@# who on here can now come up with the plug in headphone jack and bits n pieces for late night playing (Beaky to the rescue me thinks.lol) %.% ^^^ ^^^
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The one in Newcastle has the Sub and Shaker - it does sound good, clear and bassie, with the sub making a difference as I heard the other one at AMD without a sub though don't get me wrong this sounds very impressive as well. It stays clear when cranked but doubt it matches to a good home theatre system (sorry Cavey) as I have a Bose system connected to a NAD amp and it cranks.
But for all those getting a AC/DC Pro or better you will be stoked as for a pinball it's loud and clear.
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I've played and heard it , off the bat its pretty good . If you want to blow $150 on sub go for it , other wise leave it stock and crank it up .
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At this stage, I cant see the need whatsoever to spend the $$ on any sub woofer for the machine. i think i saw a sub woofer for pinnys on ebay for $99 plus postge, but it just seems to be not even needed. i think the games in the past (pre the ac/dc audio upgrade) could have benefited from the upgrade, but the ac/dc seems perfect already.
the LE got the extra, prob to just make it a bit better on paper, but adding a sub to the existing package is like adding a 2nd turbo to a ferrari, its already great to start with. maybe the extra bass (boom boom) is worth it. never been a boom boom sort of guy.lol but i am open minded. will have to see the premium when i pop in and see Bruce again when i fly down again when the premiums arrive. i am really interested now in the lighting on the LE. is it just a matter of adding color changing leds, or is it a software upgrade on top of the Pro with the combo of LEds. Interesting. The blue will look t'riffic with the back in black.
its getting even better Pete(Gorgar). ^^^
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think you will have to grab a BIBLE,Cavey
you know you want one !*!
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I will never own my mercedes benz if i keep buying pinballs.lol %.% %.%
i am just dying to see Pete unbox his.
QUESTION - who on here has a "Let there be Rock" AND HAS ANYONE ORDERED a Premium ? !@# !@# !@# !@# !@# !@#
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I will never own my mercedes benz if i keep buying pinballs.lol %.% %.%
i am just dying to see Pete unbox his.
QUESTION - who on here has a "Let there be Rock" AND HAS ANYONE ORDERED a Premium ? !@# !@# !@# !@# !@# !@#
I'm dying to see Peter unbox his too just wish stern would hurry up $#$
Peter
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Lifted info
Here you go Brett
apparently each string of GI has 3 LED's per 'site' and can be red, blue or white. so where you see that blue effect you can also have red and or white or a combination of all 3
At this stage, I cant see the need whatsoever to spend the $$ on any sub woofer for the machine. i think i saw a sub woofer for pinnys on ebay for $99 plus postge, but it just seems to be not even needed. i think the games in the past (pre the ac/dc audio upgrade) could have benefited from the upgrade, but the ac/dc seems perfect already.
the LE got the extra, prob to just make it a bit better on paper, but adding a sub to the existing package is like adding a 2nd turbo to a ferrari, its already great to start with. maybe the extra bass (boom boom) is worth it. never been a boom boom sort of guy.lol but i am open minded. will have to see the premium when i pop in and see Bruce again when i fly down again when the premiums arrive. i am really interested now in the lighting on the LE. is it just a matter of adding color changing leds, or is it a software upgrade on top of the Pro with the combo of LEds. Interesting. The blue will look t'riffic with the back in black.
its getting even better Pete(Gorgar). ^^^
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I'm dying to see Peter unbox his too just wish stern would hurry up $#$
Peter
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Me too,because when Peter unboxes his
Mine wont be far away #*#
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source: Pingame Journal
PinGame Journal EXCLUSIVE --AC/DC LE Whitewood VIDEO!I've had this video for for 5 months, waiting for the right time and the time is NOW. Get your FIRST look at the AC/DC LE version in action in this video of Steve Ritchie playing a whitewood version. This is a very preliminary version of the game but you'll see some aspects in action here for the first time. This type of behind the scenes, show the process information is my favorite part of publishing the PinGame Journal but we can't show a video on paper. There WILL be much more in the magazine, but for now, enjoy this FIRST glimps of the game.
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The Lower PF looks very fast just how I like it.
Peter
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looking forward to the completed LE's, Pingame Journal has been sitting on that video for 5 months
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Does anyone know if the BIBLE
Still comes with, Matching Laser Cut Legs and Front Molding ?
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Here's the flyer, I must say I'm very disappointed the Angus face is gone and loved it and thought it would blend in nice on the lower PF with targets and flippers and so on. I just hope with the use of LED's the flames look better in person than in the pictures but having said that I'm still excited and can't wait to get mine.
Peter
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Pete,
I can scan the face on the Pro, make up a sticker and send it to ya Pete, have a play with it and u might be able to incorporate it into the bottom playfield very easy. ^^^
I think u will find that a "mod" will become available very quickly and alot of people will experiment, or STERN might change something.
WHY NOT email Steve Ritchie directly at Stern and give your feedback and ask if they could consider changing the artwork down there, they would be open to discussion right now, before all the LE's get done. They are working on the plastic down there, why not ask for a art change to be considered ? wouldnt hurt.!
I have deciided on some mods for my Pro already, and will take photods once the Topper, and the other 3 or 4 things have been done. It will look great, a few major changes that are still subtle but will make a huge difference to the eye candy factor. ! ^^^
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Pete,
I can scan the face on the Pro, make up a sticker and send it to ya Pete, have a play with it and u might be able to incorporate it into the bottom playfield very easy. ^^^
I think u will find that a "mod" will become available very quickly and alot of people will experiment, or STERN might change something.
WHY NOT email Steve Ritchie directly at Stern and give your feedback and ask if they could consider changing the artwork down there, they would be open to discussion right now, before all the LE's get done. They are working on the plastic down there, why not ask for a art change to be considered ? wouldnt hurt.!
I have deciided on some mods for my Pro already, and will take photods once the Topper, and the other 3 or 4 things have been done. It will look great, a few major changes that are still subtle but will make a huge difference to the eye candy factor. ! ^^^
How would I find his email addy
Peter
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http://steveritchiepinball.com/
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http://steveritchiepinball.com/
Thanks for the link-email sent.
Peter
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best to use a proper Stern email address. click on the link below.
http://www.sternpinball.com/Contact.aspx
Just email Jody and ask him to pass onto Steve, which is what i did. The other one u got is OK, but thats his personal site, not his Stern site etc.
I would think the more feedback that goes via Stern formally, would count for me decision making so to speak.
Cavey ! ^^^
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I just got a very interesting email back from Steve in regards to the angus face please see below:
Hi Peter,
Thanks for being a fan.
The face was NEVER going to be on the LE. It isn't a flat piece of plywood like the Pro playfield; it has 3 dimensional parts like targets, plastics, ball guides, etc. the face would not have fit there BUT...even it could be fit there it wouldn't. My lower playfield (and it is mine, to do what I wish with, you understand, I am sure, MINE. My GAME!) was always meant to be "HELL", glow red and have a fire-based creature curse and commend you as the player. I am the voice of the creature and it's a lot like the voice of No Fear.
You will love your LE, and there are plenty of Angus images throughout the game!
I hope you will not fret about this anymore.
If you love the face so much, buy a Pro to sit next to your LE! :<))
I appreciate that you are a fan, but I am the designer of AC/DC pinball. I did my best to make a great game, and I think you will be overwhelmed when you see it. The LE is simply the most exciting and attractive pinball machine ever made!!!
Steve Ritchie
Interesting hey Peter
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I just got a very interesting email back from Steve in regards to the angus face please see below:
Hi Peter,
Thanks for being a fan.
The face was NEVER going to be on the LE. It isn't a flat piece of plywood like the Pro playfield; it has 3 dimensional parts like targets, plastics, ball guides, etc. the face would not have fit there BUT...even it could be fit there it wouldn't. My lower playfield (and it is mine, to do what I wish with, you understand, I am sure, MINE. My GAME!) was always meant to be "HELL", glow red and have a fire-based creature curse and commend you as the player. I am the voice of the creature and it's a lot like the voice of No Fear.
You will love your LE, and there are plenty of Angus images throughout the game!
I hope you will not fret about this anymore.
If you love the face so much, buy a Pro to sit next to your LE! :<))
I appreciate that you are a fan, but I am the designer of AC/DC pinball. I did my best to make a great game, and I think you will be overwhelmed when you see it. The LE is simply the most exciting and attractive pinball machine ever made!!!
Steve Ritchie
Interesting hey Peter
I wonder if he is the designer %.%
Angus has gone to !*!
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Pete,
Can't argue with a response like that! Very straight forward and direct indeed and good on him for responding in such a timely manner! ^^^
Jeff
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Pete,
Can't argue with a response like that! Very straight forward and direct indeed and good on him for responding in such a timely manner! ^^^
Jeff
I agree
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Got to respect the passion he has for what he has designed, great to see. Thanks for sharing Peter.
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Hey Peter you should have asked him if no Face was ever going to be there then why did HE leave those stupid inserts in there ?.At least you got a response from somebody at Stern,as i have not recieved a reply from my issues with the final machine which was 3 days ago. ^&^.
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YES, Steve Ritchie is a straight shooter thats for sure. I like that, the world needs more direct and blatantly honest people.
It is becoming more and more apparent that the lighting, together with the software, and the voices coming from the hell area, that Steve's design has incorporated all of these things in his decision making. Accordingly, it gives me 100 times more the confidence that the LE is going to even more special, and what some think is bland now down in the bottom playfield, (only cause we have pictures only to see) when the LE turns up in person, its going to be a WINNER. I would trust Steves call on this, hence them redesigning a red horns plastic down there etc.
Trust in the King of Pinball, and he shall deliver. ! (The Pro IS special, the LE will be EXCELLENT as well.
*Now i know more from the email Pete shared, I have changed my mind about the look of the bottom playfield. Its just too much a stretch to judge the LE yet without seeing the thing in person, just like the Pro and the Angus head, the Angus head looks great. I think the LE will look great too ! Steve Ritchie is a legend ! ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
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Hey Peter you should have asked him if no Face was ever going to be there then why did HE leave those stupid inserts in there ?.At least you got a response from somebody at Stern,as i have not recieved a reply from my issues with the final machine which was 3 days ago. ^&^.
maybe its meant to represent Angus is in rock hell or something similar and tounge in cheek fun ? (dont alot of people assosciate rock n roll music with the devil.lol %.%)
Punter, are u still selling your LE and which LE did u buy ?
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Hey Brett,yes i am selling for the reasons i have stated in a previous post.I think this is going to be a very good game but for me they got it 80% spot on and had they put more effort in to some of the finished extras i would have kept it.I ordered the Rock version and i think both versions look good.I was going to bring it home and sell later but i thought if someone else is on a waiting list it would be fair to give them the chance to buy.I only want to get back my deposit of $7250 as this will sit in my pin fund and i will wait and see what new releases come out in the future from JJ and Stern.I only want to buy NIB so if a title is something i like and all the little things are done WELL i will buy it.I have contacted Bruce from AMD and am waiting to hear back from him in regards to the above.If he cannot find a buyer i will bring it home and sell later as i am sure once it arrives here there will be peole wanting to buy.
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Deposit is $7250???...Bloody hell
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Deposit is $7250???...Bloody hell
Why such a large deposit??
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That is a huge deposit
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That is a huge deposit
I guess,he doesnt have much to pay,when they are ready $#$
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Deposit is $7250???...Bloody hell
I thought we had all been asked to go to that level,and yes Retropin i am with you a lot of cash to put down before i got to see any pic ect.My initial deposit was $3500 on the premium version i was going to buy at first,then when i changed to an LE i was asked to take it up to 5k.Then i was asked after a request from Stern to AMD to increase it to $7250 which i did the day after the request was made,I did everything that was asked in regards to payment increases,but then when i found out Stern decided that they were not going to do everything i thought they advertised to do,and not putting a few quality add ons ect i thought stuff it i am not totally happy and i am selling.
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To my knowledge, the vast majority of us have paid the majority of the moneys off. Its fair enough, u cant expect Bruce from AMD to fork out for 2 containers of machines and not get some $ help towards the final costs. These deposits have helped keep the NIB prices down, which is a good thing.
I cant wait for my machine to turn up. Its like waiting for a xmas present.lol ^^^
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Far out, I only had to put up $1000 on my NIB Sterns
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Without meaning to sound facetious, or be negative towards the up and coming ACDC pinball.. but $7250 up front sounds very like the total cost an ACDC LE before a comission is charged... and its unseen???... I cant get my head around that !@#
Deposits are normally unrefundable and given to prove that you will honour the final transaction... if you dont.. deposit gone, and thankyou, you covered my costs ( somewhat). 30 - 50% is the norm depending on the job... can honestly say, ive never charged more than 30%.. even on a $50K job
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all deposits are refundable unless stated in writing to the contrary, I believe. thats fair given people were placing deposits down on unseen items (Premium and LE)
the waiting list for a LE is huge so Punter shld have no problem shld he decide to cancel. ** he could swap his LE to a PRO and he would still have a excellent machine, then he could put the $3300 saving towards half the cost of another new in Box. that was my thinking when I went for a Pro.
Dont under estimate just how good the Pro really is.
that could be a great compromise. seriously Punter, play a Pro matey, its a cracker of a game and u can add some Leds easily and have a beauty of a acca dacca pin. best of both worlds. find a Pro to give a really good work out on. ^^^ we dont want to see u acca dacca orphaned.lol ^^^
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I just never liked the fact that they want a large deposit and it's not refundable as they keep it and you can use it against another machine - the main reason that I will never buy a machine unseen / played.
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Who said its not refundable.? It hasnt been the dealings I have had with AMD. Bruce is a top bloke, one of the straightest, honest blokes u could ever meet.
I think its fair to say they want to sell pinnys to people not force them on people. I think with fifty people wanting a LE, it wont be a issue for Punter to move it sideways and get the money back. I still hopes he looks at the Pro. Still a great pinny.
Lesson here for anyone buying a BNIB from anyone anywhere, is to check and ask for payment/cancellation terms verbally at least, or in writing via email.
It might even pay for Punter to keep it BNIB and make some extra $$ on it for those who want one in the coming 3 to 6 months. Might even make a profit ! &&
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I nearly went for a Transformers LE when it was close to there first release and they asked for a deposit to secure the machine. Because no images were released at that stage, I asked once it comes in and I had a game and checked it - if I didn't like it could I get my $2500 deposit back - answer was no but you could use against another purchase in the future.
That isn't a refund.
Hopefully AMD have another interested buyer to relieve punter but if not he will then have to pay more to take the machine or leave the machine there as well as the large deposit. Not everyone can afford the risk of that much money being tied up and I bet the machine would sell quickly but money be still tied up - guarantees a purchase from punter in the future, which I know is business but don't agree with it.
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If someone told me the machine was not refundable if I didnt like it, i wouldnt put a deposit down at all.
Not refundable is poor form, UNLESS they have specially ordered the machine for you, which is then acceptable, but only if agreed upon first, and in writing.
It doesnt pay to place a deposit on a "unreleased mystery bag" then does it. Thats why i flew to Sydney ($220 return flight from the Gold Coast plus $40 in taxis etc) and played the Pro before handing over my hard earned cash $$$.
Having to guess what Sterns or JJP's next title is with a big depost not being refundable is bullshit. Stern releasing limited numbers (200 only) forces people to pay big $$ and take a risk which sux. Personally, I dont think any LE is value for money, compared to a Pro AT all.
If it was a widebody, with heaps n heaps of extras, u might MIGHT argue the $2500 to $3300 difference, but i cant see the value AT ALL. The lesson, dont buy into the hype literally on a LE release, unless u have $$$$ to burn. You get fark all for the $3300, so just buy a Pro, and win everytime.
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I recieved an email from Bruce who is overseas at the moment.He said his staff at AMD will contact me and i will be given a full refund asap.In all my dealings with Bruce i found him to be a very good person to deal with and i am happy this has been sorted out.I may buy from him in the future or it could be JJ but whoever that is no way will i ever pay up front again for a machine,i will wait and see the finished product before any purchase.Hey Brett i have played the Pro version at AMD and as i put in a post i thought it was a very nice machine,excellent sound ect,but the reason i ordered the LE version was because i like drop targets and was thinking with all the so called extras this would suit me better.I do agree with you on the price difference between the Pro and LE versions as i cannot see why it is so much,if we had been given some high end add ons ect i may have thought differently.I may have made the wrong call by not bringing it home and maybe trying to make a profit later but i may have given someone else a chance to buy.Maybe i am a hard marker when it comes to a pin but i feel i have made the right call here.To all the other Premium and LE buyers i hope you have a blast playing this game and i am looking forward to seeing some of your vids.
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Well done !
Bruce will have no worries in moving this one on .
I wonder if his call would of been the same if it wasn't a hot potato.
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Well done !
Bruce will have no worries in moving this one on .
I wonder if his call would of been the same if it wasn't a hot potato.
+1 i was going to put that in my post but i thought no i will just leave it alone,but since you made that comment i agree that if it was going to be a hard one to find another buyer would the response have been the same,that question can only be answered by Bruce i suppose.
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Id say it would have been... over $7K isnt a deposit, its all funds up front and to then keep said money and sell machine again is below most people. I havent dealt with Bruce but a good reputation preceeds any dealings i may have.
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I suppose us WoZ owners cannot complain
We all (should have) paid in full last year, still no pictures of finished product, nor have we played test versions, or have a definite delvery date @.@
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I suppose us WoZ owners cannot complain
We all (should have) paid in full last year, still no pictures of finished product, nor have we played test versions, or have a definite delvery date @.@
I cannot think of any other industry, product or service other than pinball where this would be possible
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I suppose us WoZ owners cannot complain
We all (should have) paid in full last year, still no pictures of finished product, nor have we played test versions, or have a definite delvery date @.@
Same went for BBB, and we really had to pray they would get done. At least with Stern you can be fairly confident that the product will come. WoZ is pretty much the same risk as BBB I suppose.
As for a deposit, Gav defines it perfectly "given to prove that you will honour the final transaction", it's exactly the legal definition. They are generally not refundable (despite some comments here) unless agreed.
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It's a shame the LE has become a negitive topic I'm still positive about the finished product and am sure Steve will get it right.
Peter
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It's a shame the LE has become a negitive topic I'm still positive about the finished product and am sure Steve will get it right.
Peter
Well said,Peter
I still think this will be a killer pin,as well
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It's a shame the LE has become a negitive topic I'm still positive about the finished product and am sure Steve will get it right.
Peter
While not a fan of the band, I do like the extra effort Stern is putting into the game
I know I will be knocking on your door wanting a game <.>
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It's a shame the LE has become a negitive topic I'm still positive about the finished product and am sure Steve will get it right.
Peter
I did not mean to turn it into a negative topic Peter as i have only been posting my thoughts and i have no doubt it is going to be a cracking game to play.I never had an issue in regards to what gameplay would be like or the sound this is going to put out.I did not intend to downplay the good points on this game.It was a big call for me to cancel my order and i thought long and hard about it,in the end everyone has their opinions on the finished machine.I hope all the LE buyers are very happy with the machine and the next time i put up a post about the ACDC pin it will be about how great the vids are.
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I dont think the LE is a negative topic. It has some negatives like all pinballs have both positives and negatives. I just think Stern needs to relook at the price difference between the Pro and the LE.
Remember the Transformers LE was/is $8200. I am complaining about the extra $1100 on top of that LE price. Is the LE AC/DC ok at $8200 YES. But why the extra $1100.
I can only "assume" extra licencing fees or its a trial to see if the next LE will be sold for bigger money ? Are all LE's now going to be $9300 ?
Re Punter, I always knew Bruce would do the right thing.
And regarding deposits, all deposits by law are refundable, unless stated otherwise in writing. And even then, it has to meet state law, which would over rule that direction 95 times out of one hundred. Thats consumer law 101. U just have to look at consumer affairs, and each states legislation to see the various rules. It pays to get the terms n conditions in writing. Look at layby with any chain of supermarkets, everytime u have to sign the terms n conditions. If a product doesnt reach your expectations or do what u believed it would do, u can get a refund. It is extremely rare companies try to contract out of statute. I know the laws well cause i sell product to all states and have studied the legislation. The LE LTBRock will sell in 5 seconds. I havent heard of anyone else changing their minds. I think the extra speech on the LE and the light show plus other features will keep all LE owners happy. I am just hoping the next LE returns to the Transformers pricing thats all.
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Most of the extra dosh Brett would have been due to massive licensing fees no doubt having the rights to AC/DC would be very expensive, I know you guys arn't knocking the LE cause we really haven't seen the final product yet, I'm happy spending the cash mainly due to the theme I love acadaca do it's not a problem and yeah I'm confidant I'll love the final product.
Peter
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It's a shame the LE has become a negitive topic I'm still positive about the finished product and am sure Steve will get it right.
Peter
While not a fan of the band, I do like the extra effort Stern is putting into the game
I know I will be knocking on your door wanting a game <.>
I reckon I may have lots of new friends lol
Peter
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I still hope we get to see some better pics of our Bibles,soon
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I still think they stuffed up the lower playfield on the LE !*!
There's no doubt with the layout of the inserts that is a dead give away, to me it looks as if Stern have made a last minute decision & then have rushed the production of the LE's <.>
however keeping with the positive vibe of this thread I will reserve my thoughts until I've seen and played an BIB or LTBR LE.
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I am looking forward to playing this pin... ill be knocking at Caveys door for the grand opening of the ceremonial box and will have my $2 on the pin before the START button is pressed for the first game.
Theres no negative thread here... its all been said before with any other STERN release, and of course being a STERN there are those ( myself included) that will always have reservations.
Rather to the contrary.. i think the expectations are so high that anything thats not spewing adolation is seen as being negative. There are some BIG $$ handed over (Including desposits) and i sincerely hope that this title is everything that the owners want it to be.. many have put their necks on the line.. something id never be prepared to do.
Pinball is a balance of artwork and game play... thats what makes a GREAT machine.
The Steve Ritchie recipe is right.. the title is right... only Stern can cock this up now and for the future of pinball, i hope it outsells TAF a few times over.
Put it this way.... modern pinball has never had as good an opportunity as this to put pinball back in the frontline... the hype is huge... i now await the pin
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Good luck to all who are forking out so much cash for such a hyped up pin .
I hope to play one soon, but could never tie so much money up in one toy.
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Good luck to all who are forking out so much cash for such a hyped up pin .
I hope to play one soon, but could never tie so much money up in one toy.
9k tied up on a pinball you call a toy what about cars alot of us do it and the return is no where near the outlay? I know guys that have 50k worth of pinballs so in the grand scheme of things it ain't huge.
Peter
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I still think they stuffed up the lower playfield on the LE !*!
There's no doubt with the layout of the inserts that is a dead give away, to me it looks as if Stern have made a last minute decision & then have rushed the production of the LE's <.>
however keeping with the positive vibe of this thread I will reserve my thoughts until I've seen and played an BIB or LTBR LE.
Things have gone abit quite on the LE's and yeah those eye and mouth inserts look out of place maybe there changing them? I'm changing my mind on the lower PF with the flames as there's also the the color changing LED's the voice from hell and most likely music playing so as a package it may surprise us.
Peter
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9k tied up on a pinball you call a toy what about cars alot of us do it and the return is no where near the outlay? I know guys that have 50k worth of pinballs so in the grand scheme of things it ain't huge.
Peter
No argument from me ..to each their own .. they are toys at the end of the day though . 50K in pins ^%^
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I'm just getting sick of reading comments like "shit you spent 9k on a pinball" yeah I did and I sold some games to be able to do that cause I always said if there's an AC/DC pinball I'll buy one and I did-I too don't care who has what that's never bothered me good luck to them I have what I have from hard work and I'm proud of it so should others that have achieved alot.
NOW SHOW MORE BLOODY LE PIC'S ITS KILLING ME.
Peter
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If it was another KISS, Van Halen, Dream Theater or Led Zeppelin Pinball, then I would spend the money - no probs. I think it is AWESOME that AC / DC fans have this opportunity to buy a pinball. I know it might be a little off topic, but this pinball is not only a great new pinball, but it is a theme that has been requested for at least 2 years.
This has to be the most "discussed" pinball in 20 years. Really pulverized the community - in a good way. But let's not become distracted or divided by it. There are some things I don't particularly like, but I posted that in January, and I'm not going to push the barrel on that. I really hope everyone enjoys the experience of opening their Stern box and ENJOYING the game. It's AC/DC for christ's sake !
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I think a few of us me included are becoming impatient due to not many pics and so on so I'm getting a little side tracked @@^ geez all the le's are sold show us sum pictures and a video finished pleeeeesssseee.
Peter
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I don't mind the lower playfield on the LE. I just hope Stern don't rush the release on the final product until they have it completely finished. If I was buying one, would be happy to wait another month if it meant the game was 100%.
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I am sure lots of guys will love their machines when they arrive and the rest of us will be hoping there will be sited LE around the corner.
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That's what AP has that the other forums don't have .
Good clean Pinball fun , without the smart asses or trouble makers or the shit stir-ers ,
Last thing we need here are slanging games and derogative laugage towards other members .
I give credit to the mods for keeping members in line , and keeping a very very high standard .Well done guys .
Be proud of this forum members :)
Back on topic , I think the inserts look out of place .Can't 100% swallow what Steve said .
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That's what AP has that the other forums don't have .
Good clean Pinball fun , without the smart asses or trouble makers or the shit stir-ers ,
Last thing we need here are slanging games and derogative laugage towards other members .
I give credit to the mods for keeping members in line , and keeping a very very high standard .Well done guys .
Be proud of this forum members :)
Back on topic , I think the inserts look out of place .Can't 100% swallow what Steve said .
It has gone quite about the LE maybe there looking at the lower PF again but Steve's email did come across to me as genuine but the pics have stopped! And I agree at AP we have something special
Peter
Peter
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After consultation with Nick, we decided to clean up a couple of pages of "off topic" banter that was best suited somewhere else. Our apologies in advance to anyone caught in the crossfire. No ones to blame here, we just believe that the thread needed some "guidance" back to the Topic.
Just for the record - who here has ordered an AC/DC ?
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Me I've ordered a "back in black" LE
Peter
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After consultation with Nick, we decided to clean up a couple of pages of "off topic" banter that was best suited somewhere else. Our apologies in advance to anyone caught in the crossfire. No ones to blame here, we just believe that the thread needed some "guidance" back to the Topic.
Just for the record - who here has ordered an AC/DC ?
Nice work guys
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Me I've ordered a "back in black" LE
Peter
Should we have a separate "unboxing thread" for each member or just one big thread ? I'm thinking of LOTS of pics with happy faces playing air guitar ^^^
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Me I've ordered a "back in black" LE
Peter
Should we have a separate "unboxing thread" for each member or just one big thread ? I'm thinking of LOTS of pics with happy faces playing air guitar ^^^
I reckon seperate unboxing for each member I'll be videoing mine starting at place of purchase then trip home then unboxing.
Peter
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15/4/12 we should see the LE's I've heard
Peter
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interesting to see if they do arrive around the 15th,
would be nice to get a confirmed date, Stern did say
all machines should be distributed by the 25th April.
Anyway, about 1 month to go
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I'm lead to believe US sellers also know what build number LE they have been allocated .
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they ship all exports before starting to sell into the USA
So they say
So us Aussies will get our LE modles first,I believe
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Do you mean build number ?
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Do you mean build number ?
Heard S R say it in an interview,its normal to ship exports first
not sure about build numbers ,it didnt say
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they ship all exports before starting to sell into the USA
So they say
So us Aussies will get our LE modles first,I believe
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we got the Transformers LE's first, but they came by airfreight too
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A Stern dealer in the USA on ebay (automated services) is offering AC/DC LE's and the ebay add states that they have numbers between 1 - 13 for a slightly higher purchase prices $.
It wouldnt surprise me if the USA sellers get all the low numbers, and the export machines start at around the 50 number etc. Perhaps STERN does this for its largest dealers/game sellers on the planet, and if so, u can understand the desire to keep the USA sellers happy.
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numbers 1, 3, 5, 7, 9 and so on to USA sellers,
and numbers 2, 4 , 6, 8 and so on to the export market.
Time will tell when Pete, and a few other Aussies open their LE machines and see the game numbers. Exciting times ahead. ^^^
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A Stern dealer in the USA on ebay (automated services) is offering AC/DC LE's and the ebay add states that they have numbers between 1 - 13 for a slightly higher purchase prices $.
Automated Services and TheGameRoomGuys = Stern's 800 pound US gorilla.
Having said that, Stern will try to keep it fair and equitable and I would expect at least some low numbers will make their way down under.
Tron LE number 8 made it to Aus after all, as a genuine Aussie delivered machine. ^^^
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number 8 is excellent.
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I played a new Transformers LE number 116 of 500 that came to AMD and stayed there for a while until luke sited it locally. I doubt we get all the early machines, though did play a number 20 Tron LE locally mid last year.
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A Stern dealer in the USA on ebay (automated services) is offering AC/DC LE's and the ebay add states that they have numbers between 1 - 13 for a slightly higher purchase prices $.
Automated Services and TheGameRoomGuys = Stern's 800 pound US gorilla.
Having said that, Stern will try to keep it fair and equitable and I would expect at least some low numbers will make their way down under.
Tron LE number 8 made it to Aus after all, as a genuine Aussie delivered machine. ^^^
I got number 8 Avatar LE of 250 , with 8 your never late , :lol :lol
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A Stern dealer in the USA on ebay (automated services) is offering AC/DC LE's and the ebay add states that they have numbers between 1 - 13 for a slightly higher purchase prices $.
Automated Services and TheGameRoomGuys = Stern's 800 pound US gorilla.
Having said that, Stern will try to keep it fair and equitable and I would expect at least some low numbers will make their way down under.
Tron LE number 8 made it to Aus after all, as a genuine Aussie delivered machine. ^^^
I got number 8 Avatar LE of 250 , with 8 your never late , :lol :lol
Now if only the Chinese market could be tapped into for pins. @@*
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_is_the_number_8_so_important_to_the_Chinese
Who thinks Ritchie will take dibs on number 1 of BIBLE or LTBR (or both)? !*!
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Surely Angus gets no.1
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FYI
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personally , I do not see the fuss over a number (unless ot is the first or last)
I have not requested a number for my WoZ
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FYI
Is that my BIBLE in the picture $#$
Peter
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Yes it is Pete, thats your Blue LE there, its sitting right next to my Pro in the picture. ^^^ %.% %.%
I cant see how they will get here by the 15th of next month. If they havent been loaded yet in the USA and todays the 16th, and the time on water is usually around 40 to 44 days, plus customs ? plus shipping/trucking around Australia. Perhaps they will be another few weeks past the 15th. What are they fixing on the LE's/Premiums that we dont know about ? perhaps a few good extra surprises. Knowing Steve Ritchies dedication, it wouldnt surprise me if the 4 models came with something a little extra.
Worth the wait, just makes the day of opening more fun.
* it has been very quiet on the LE Western Front. Perhaps they have left, perhaps they have a quicker Port to Port service than usual ? I am sure we will get notification sooner or later re time frames/delivery etc.
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they can come by air
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The 3 or 4 plus 40 foot containers that Bruce and Joe have organised are seafreight and not airfreight ofcourse. There will be 40 plus machines per sea container.
To send a machine by airfreight is around $1000. If u got the worlds best deal, as low as $800 to $900. Seafreight rates get down to around to $300 to $400 a machine incl landing etc.
It never pays to send that many machines ever by air-freight. Machines are only airfreighted when people want the machines yesterday, versus in 5 or 6 weeks, but it adds to the purchase price, hence the AC/DC Pro is $5950 and not the standard $6350. The $400 saving is only because of the seafreight rates etc.
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The 3 or 4 plus 40 foot containers that Bruce and Joe have organised are seafreight and not airfreight ofcourse. There will be 40 plus machines per sea container.
To send a machine by airfreight is around $1000. If u got the worlds best deal, as low as $800 to $900. Seafreight rates get down to around to $300 to $400 a machine incl landing etc.
It never pays to send that many machines ever by air-freight. Machines are only airfreighted when people want the machines yesterday, versus in 5 or 6 weeks, but it adds to the purchase price, hence the AC/DC Pro is $5950 and not the standard $6350. The $400 saving is only because of the seafreight rates etc.
I'm that keen I'd pay the extra $400 to have it sent by air :)
Peter
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Air freight door to door is about $1500 give and take a bit .
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Air freight door to door is about $1500 give and take a bit .
Maybe I'll wait lol
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The 3 or 4 plus 40 foot containers that Bruce and Joe have organised are seafreight and not airfreight ofcourse. There will be 40 plus machines per sea container.
To send a machine by airfreight is around $1000. If u got the worlds best deal, as low as $800 to $900. Seafreight rates get down to around to $300 to $400 a machine incl landing etc.
It never pays to send that many machines ever by air-freight. Machines are only airfreighted when people want the machines yesterday, versus in 5 or 6 weeks, but it adds to the purchase price, hence the AC/DC Pro is $5950 and not the standard $6350. The $400 saving is only because of the seafreight rates etc.
69 in a 40ft and 33 fit in a 20ft container,they are packed in tight,I will take a pic to let you see when our container gets here and your costs are just about spot on
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U are definately correct, 44 machines in a 40 footer are unboxed 2nd hand dmds excl pin2000 from Europe, with maybe a few more projects crammed in.
Yes, u would get more in a container if u packed to the roof with Stern boxed machines. With those amounts, I would think it would make it cheaper with more pins in a container. I spoke to a company in the USA today about freight generally, and the prices have levelled out with a slowing transport market. Oil prices are up, but seafreight companies have slowed the fella was telling me, as well as 3/4 full planes only, making prices more competitive.
Airfreight on standby rates (sits there for 3 or 4 days til a unused opening becomes avail) can be had for $800 to $900. Depends who u use, so many variants/different companies/where the machines are etc.
*I try to buy USA machines from L.A cause its so close to the seafreight terminal, saving $400 to $500 from Central USA inland truck shipping..
Look forward to the photos. Thankyou for sharing. That would be a fun day at Joe's place 4 sure. ^^^
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$800-$900 plus US inland freight , clearance fees , airport charges , Doc's etc , GST .
If you get it less the $1500 your doing ok.
I've done it heaps of times .
U are definately correct, 44 machines in a 40 footer are unboxed 2nd hand dmds excl pin2000 from Europe, with maybe a few more projects crammed in.
Yes, u would get more in a container if u packed to the roof with Stern boxed machines. With those amounts, I would think it would make it cheaper with more pins in a container. I spoke to a company in the USA today about freight generally, and the prices have levelled out with a slowing transport market. Oil prices are up, but seafreight companies have slowed the fella was telling me, as well as 3/4 full planes only, making prices more competitive.
Airfreight on standby rates (sits there for 3 or 4 days til a unused opening becomes avail) can be had for $800 to $900. Depends who u use, so many variants/different companies/where the machines are etc.
*I try to buy USA machines from L.A cause its so close to the seafreight terminal, saving $400 to $500 from Central USA inland truck shipping..
Look forward to the photos. Thankyou for sharing. That would be a fun day at Joe's place 4 sure. ^^^
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U are correct Tony, it gets expensive when the pinny catches a flight from near Stern. The inland distribution for Stern to the USA works well cause they are in the middle of the country, but when sending out of the USA, the inland position just ratchets up the costs unfortunately.
Also, on another good note, a friend of mine here just told me he ordered a AC/DC Pro which i was told tonight, which is excellent news. I am glad he also found the new Stern to be a winner like a few members have. Its his first NIB Stern (but not his first pinny by a long shot) so it will be great to see him unboxing his new machine as well.
April will be fun time for the forum with alot of people hopefully taking photos/videos etc.
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After consultation with Nick, we decided to clean up a couple of pages of "off topic" banter that was best suited somewhere else. Our apologies in advance to anyone caught in the crossfire. No ones to blame here, we just believe that the thread needed some "guidance" back to the Topic.
Just for the record - who here has ordered an AC/DC ?
I've ordered an AC/DC Le rock
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I'm excited now.
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nice find
looks great,hey
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nice find
looks great,hey
Yeah looks awesome and still a fast game which I'm happy about shame that vid didn't let us hear AC/DC playing
Peter
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And another just love the bell #*#
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Looking good ,
Hey Nick the 3 centre drop targets look familiar
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That bell rocks
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Looks great. I wonder if the bell will hit the playfield glass when swinging up so high ? Maybe its because the guy shot the ball by hand so hard it almost went the whole way around. What do u guys think of the band people moving left n right on the back right cnr picture/stand up ? !@#
Premium/LE playfield is looking great. I wonder if anyone in Aust or the USA will end up buying a Pro and a Premium/LE or are the machines too close to have the different ones sitting side by side ? Thanks for the videos guys. The ac/dc machines are looking great.
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Looks great. I wonder if the bell will hit the playfield glass when swinging up so high ? Maybe its because the guy shot the ball by hand so hard it almost went the whole way around. What do u guys think of the band people moving left n right on the back right cnr picture/stand up ? !@#
Premium/LE playfield is looking great. I wonder if anyone in Aust or the USA will end up buying a Pro and a Premium/LE or are the machines too close to have the different ones sitting side by side ? Thanks for the videos guys. The ac/dc machines are looking great.
Me and the kids said that Brett about the bell its looks like it will just miss the glass %.% the band in corner well that was my first disappointment when I first saw that, it looks cheap and doesn't really do alot but I'm wrapped its still very fast like the pro.
Peter
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Pete, a mini puppet show happening with the band.lol It sort of makes u laugh cause it looks a bit of a comedy/funny situation with them grooving away. I dont mind it cause its different.lol I could say its added something funny to the playfield so its alright, in that its at least fun.
The bell would have to miss the glass, surely. Dont the bright LEDS look T'riffic. Cant wait to see the Premium playfield etc in the flesh.
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Looks great. I wonder if the bell will hit the playfield glass when swinging up so high ? Maybe its because the guy shot the ball by hand so hard it almost went the whole way around. What do u guys think of the band people moving left n right on the back right cnr picture/stand up ? !@#
AC/DC buyers will find that they focus on the things they love about the game, your brain will ignore the dodgy bits
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Pete, a mini puppet show happening with the band.lol It sort of makes u laugh cause it looks a bit of a comedy/funny situation with them grooving away. I dont mind it cause its different.lol I could say its added something funny to the playfield so its alright, in that its at least fun.
The bell would have to miss the glass, surely. Dont the bright LEDS look T'riffic. Cant wait to see the Premium playfield etc in the flesh.
The band in a weird way reminds me of the party zone dude that dances and shakes and all almost all have a limb missing lol but maybe that's just me. Overall i love it and am very keen to get mine.
Peter
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Yes them LEDs are popping , about the band as long as there Moving with the beat it's all good , I was told from a mate in the US that acdc is not a wanted title by the operators , and it has no Interest by the local public .
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thank goodness us Aussies like them!
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I got a email from a friend who lives in Texas and collects pinnys. He belongs to a local pinball club/forum and said that he has ordered a Premium, as have a few of his friends, and that a few guys had also ordered the Pro, and he thought it was selling really well for both collectors and local operators who were placing AC/DC into bars/local businesses. Maybe different areas have different results. ?
It would be nice if Stern kept/shared real figures of machines sold. You could then determine the health of a title, from one release to the next etc.
I also noticed Stern is currently exporting machines to 30 countries (list below). I wonder how many machines really do go to each country ? !@#
http://www.sternpinball.com/Buy/International.aspx
There is around 60 USA dealers as well.
http://www.sternpinball.com/Buy/Commercial.aspx
We know the 500 LE machines have been sold. Would u get another 300 Pro, and another 300 Premiums sold for all of these dealers in the USA and overseas.
Thats 5 machines per USA dealer and 5 machines per overseas dealer on top of the LE sales.. I reckon that is easily achievable.
That makes it 1100 units at bare minimum numbers. I think alot of dealers sell 20 times that small (x5) amount. Perhaps AC/DC will sell a few thosand then ? Hard to really know ? !@# ^^^
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Id say Stern have a market that is completely polarised with its tastes.
Chances are that where ACDC has had weak response.... Big Buck Hunter probably did well
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Yes them LEDs are popping , about the band as long as there Moving with the beat it's all good , I was told from a mate in the US that acdc is not a wanted title by the operators , and it has no Interest by the local public .
doesnt surprise me
guess they are still waiting for the Micky Jackson,pin !@#
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Of the Stern Titles
RS for the UK
ACDC for OZ
Elvis US
Have I missed any ? !@#
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Looking Good ,
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!@# What do u guys think of getting a PRO AC/DC and powdercoating the legs, backbox hinges and lockdown bar to the same fire engine RED as the Premium, just to add that extra bling after adding the mirror blades, full LED kit, and a topper with flashing Leds in it.
A hybrid PRO of sorts. What ya reckon ? OR just make the std black stuff all mirror finish chrome instead ? ya have to look at the std Pro to get an idea of what the bling upgrade would do ! !@#
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!@# What do u guys think of getting a PRO AC/DC and powdercoating the legs, backbox hinges and lockdown bar to the same fire engine RED as the Premium, just to add that extra bling after adding the mirror blades, full LED kit, and a topper with flashing Leds in it.
A hybrid PRO of sorts. What ya reckon ? OR just make the std black stuff all mirror finish chrome instead ? ya have to look at the std Pro to get an idea of what the bling upgrade would do ! !@#
I reckon it would look great Brett somehow the AC/DC pinball tells me it can handle some mods and upgrades I reckon go for it.
Gee the lower PF looks very fast hey?
Peter
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The lower playfield in that video is fast.
It will be good to hear the speech coming from "hell" as steve ritchie puts it.
I am waiting with eagerness to see how the scoring is worked out for the lower playfield, and if the lower PF kicks in randomly or if u have to work hard to get it going ?
?? any news from stern/everywhere re the LE has gone very VERY quiet.
!@# ?? Anyone heard or seen anything new. Anyone spoken with Bruce or Joe about any AC/DC updates/news ?? !@#
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The lower playfield in that video is fast.
It will be good to hear the speech coming from "hell" as steve ritchie puts it.
I am waiting with eagerness to see how the scoring is worked out for the lower playfield, and if the lower PF kicks in randomly or if u have to work hard to get it going ?
?? any news from stern/everywhere re the LE has gone very VERY quiet.
!@# ?? Anyone heard or seen anything new. Anyone spoken with Bruce or Joe about any AC/DC updates/news ?? !@#
It has gone very quite hey? maybe productions full steam ahead and hopefully by end of April we will see our games, I'm loving the videos.
Peter
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SR has a great personality ^^^
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Tony, thankyou for that great video. ^^^
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I now feel like I am going to have a part of Stern/Steve Ritchie with me in my loungeroom when i play my acdc machine. What a positive and fun guy Steve Ritchie is.
Man, what a really cool video. The amount of work that goes into these machines is HUGE.
It also makes me think that JJP and the WOZ have ALOT of hard work ahead of them, and it aint going to be easy. Its alot of work and dedication to get a production line working really well/efficiently.
?? !@# !@# one thing that confused me, is that SR kept saying "3 x different playfields" ?? I thought the Premium and the LE had the same playfields. Did he mean 3 different machines ? Anyway. think i will be saving for a Premium now as well. The voice over of SR on the Premium/LE sounds to me like real fun. I am starting to see the big differences compared to the Pro. The LEDS on the Premium/LE look amazing.
Also, i am going to add this mod (youtube video below) to my backbox as well. looks really good.
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3 play fields Brett , the pro , the premium & le and the mini PF i guess .
Brett buy an LE mate ,if your thinking about the premium fork out the extra money and just go for the LE &&. at least its limited .
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OK. he meant "3 different playfields" literally, meaning the Pro, the premium/LE TOP playfield and the LOWER premium/LE playfield. OK OK OK.. I get it now.lol @.@ @.@ %.%
I dont know, I would probably buy the Premium, on top of the Pro if i win Lotto, and save the $1200 etc, and not many people in Australia will have a premium, with most buying the Pro or the LE.
Maybe the Premium would be worth looking at, but only after I play one. There has to be enough visually to make it worth while.
!@# OR do u just save up for STERNS NEXT TITLE && lol
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Yep cool video anyone heard a shipping date I want my LE %.%
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I FOUND SOMETHING DURING THE STEVE RITCHIE VIDEO (ABOVE) THAT MAY BE VERY IMPORTANT IN TELLING US ABOUT THE NEXT STERN TITLE !
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Go to the video, and get to the 2.25 minute mark, then freeze the image by clicking on the video/or pausing it exactly at 2 minutes and 30 seconds. Exactly 2.30.
With the screen set to full size, in Mark Galvez's office (the guy who designs the software animations for the dot matrix displays) you clearly see a
Marvel Superheroes/Avengers colour A4 page that he has pinted out and placed on his working/dot matrix designs/art wall. Some other images have been covered up, but not this one ! You will notice it top left corner.
Its not co-incidence its on his wall surely ? Does that mean the next title will be Marvel Superheroes which a few of us have suggested ? Interesting.
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Doesnt the Stern factory look busy. I also noticed they were talking about LE machines that had been finished, but had been opened up and re-worked with something added and u can see the machines in the video and the guy is doing "something" to them etc. I notice the apron on a few machines is bright red and almost red transparent like the apron on Revenge from Mars is also. I hadnt noticed that before. Steve reckons there are apx 20 more surprises. Very cool indeed. ^^^
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Just heard that April 16th is the expected delivery date of the AC/DC pinball's $#$
Peter
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AC/DC Pro ordered today. Never thought I'd own a new in box Stern machine...ever. Love my Guns n Roses machine and I think the full music tracks in this machine from a classic band sold me on this one.
Cheers!
Adam.
P.s have grown to embrace the Angus head. Haha
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WELL DONE Adam(Delarge) on ordering your new in box AC/DC Pro. ^^^
I think u will enjoy it alot. Any of the 4 models will be a great addition to anyones collection. It is so fast, and the music is so cool. Again, well done and hope it brings you a heap of family fun. Exciting times ahead. Dont forget to post and a few photos when your new toy comes. ^^^
Pete,
if u dont mind me asking, who did u hear the April 16 date from, AMD ?? hopefully its ontime, but i hadnt thought the LE machines had even left Stern yet ?
Is the container(s) on the water ? they must have left 1 or 2 weeks ago to meet that target ? seems like the container will be travelling on a VERY fast seafreight ship/speedboat. lol. Man, all of us are impatient waiting. Like having ants in ya pants. !
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Brett I heard that from the bloke I'm ordering from in Melbourne-maybe thats the 16th in Sydney then a few days later we see them !@# I'll be happy if I have mine by the end of April $#$ but its testing my patience, could only imagine how the WOZ owners feel &&
Peter
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AC/DC Pro ordered today. Never thought I'd own a new in box Stern machine...ever. Love my Guns n Roses machine and I think the full music tracks in this machine from a classic band sold me on this one.
Cheers!
Adam.
P.s have grown to embrace the Angus head. Haha
Well done Adam great stuff awesome feeling hey buying a NIB?
Peter
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Here are some toppers by a guy in the US, has red, blue and some other colours as well as other machines.
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002457881622&sk=photos
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Ya , not bad .
I would rather AC(lightening bolt)DC in lights , won't be long before someone does it ,
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Ya , not bad .
I would rather AC(lightening bolt)DC in lights , won't be long before someone does it ,
+1 how much is that guy charging?
Wonder if he supplies Pinballlife.com???
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Ya , not bad .
I would rather AC(lightening bolt)DC in lights , won't be long before someone does it ,
+1 how much is that guy charging?
Wonder if he supplies Pinballlife.com???
I think he does supply because his CFTBL toppers are exactly the same - his facebook page has photos of all sorts of toppers.
I agree with you ANT keep it simple and it would look better - ball coming out of the cannons and its path is a little average.
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Its just a bit of laser cut acrylic with blue LED underneath it.... could make your own for nix.... Mike ( Homepin) does laser cuitting/etching
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Hi guys,
In the process of making my own AC/DC topper with printed vinyl and hand cut perspex. Will post images when I'm done. Gathered high quality images from around the next and putting it all together in Photoshop.
Cheers!
Adam.
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Ok good , get ready to make a few .
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Hi guys,
In the process of making my own AC/DC topper with printed vinyl and hand cut perspex. Will post images when I'm done. Gathered high quality images from around the next and putting it all together in Photoshop.
Cheers!
Adam.
Good stuff Adam can't wait to see sorry I haven't pulled my finger out and sent some ideas !@)
Peter
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Hi guys,
In the process of making my own AC/DC topper with printed vinyl and hand cut perspex. Will post images when I'm done. Gathered high quality images from around the next and putting it all together in Photoshop.
Cheers!
Adam.
Good stuff Adam can't wait to see sorry I haven't pulled my finger out and sent some ideas !@)
Peter
I still owe Blair an Atari Superman topper, so better get that project finished first. Men can do two things at once right?
Now, if only some bright spark can add a monitor with AC/DC footage to the playfield. Something like the Twilight Zone tv mod.
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Texas Pinball show is on right now .
On JJP private forum there is discussion on the ACDC pinball .
Jack just posted these comment .And I pretty sure I know who had 2 & 3 .
Speaking of acdc
This is posted on the Texas Pinball Festival site:
They’re here! We have 2 incredible AC/DC Back in Black and 2 awesome
AC/DC Let There be Rock Limited Edition pinball machines (numbers 2
and 3 of each edition!) sitting on the ballroom floor right now! And
this is your chance to play them. You won’t find them anywhere else
in the country. Only here!
So.......show organizers have been told this was a "mistake" and that
George Gomez himself will be here later today to swap out the number
plaques........the games were purchased at full price from a Stern
distributor......any thoughts what the owners of the games here should
do or say? They are very upset and asked me for advice. I said to tell
Gary that I bought them and he needs to talk to me....LOL.....
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Texas Pinball show is on right now .
On JJP private forum there is discussion on the ACDC pinball .
Jack just posted these comment .And I pretty sure I know who had 2 & 3 .
Speaking of acdc
This is posted on the Texas Pinball Festival site:
They’re here! We have 2 incredible AC/DC Back in Black and 2 awesome
AC/DC Let There be Rock Limited Edition pinball machines (numbers 2
and 3 of each edition!) sitting on the ballroom floor right now! And
this is your chance to play them. You won’t find them anywhere else
in the country. Only here!
So.......show organizers have been told this was a "mistake" and that
George Gomez himself will be here later today to swap out the number
plaques........the games were purchased at full price from a Stern
distributor......any thoughts what the owners of the games here should
do or say? They are very upset and asked me for advice. I said to tell
Gary that I bought them and he needs to talk to me....LOL.....
Classic %.%
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Lots of discussion on JJP forum about the sequence of events, who's right and wrong or people just trying to understand what happened ( been a forum )
So I throw my 2 cents in
The way read it No 2 and 3 have already been sold to person A or
person A & B, and Stern displayed their Pinball are at the show with
out the rightful owner consent .
A sale was done by a distributor who paid Stern more money for these
low numbers .
That distributor sold and got extra dollars for these low numbers and
customers A or A and B happily paid the extra for these numbers , and
the deal was done ,sealed in concrete , everyone happy .
So persons A or A & B reads on the Texas Pinball Festival site or see
their ACDC pinball at the show been shake, rattled and rolled and get
very upset , angry ,etc etc etc .
Find Jack and asks for his advice .
That's what I think , on a lighter note we don't know if A and B live
in the same state or that A and B are just friends or even know each
other or in a relationship .
A + B = It's all fun LOL
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Just got a message from Jack to say that Steve Ritchie was sitting in the front row while he was on the podium talking WOZ .
Good to see Steve waving his own flag there I guess .
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And a picture from the Texas pinball festival, posted on Facebook;
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/TalesFromTheOutlane/ACDClineup.jpg)
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heres a few more from the texas show
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seems most people who played the BIBLE at the Texas show said the pics didnt do it justice
{ from pinside }
I was hoping it looked better than the pics we have seen $#$
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Pics look awesome
Peter
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I think people will be ABSOLUTELY BLOWN AWAY when they see the LEDS on the Premium and LE models. ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
I am definately going to do my Pro, but the question I have, is there additional code with the Premium/LE models that makes all the colour changing LEDS work in unison (together at the same time). IF this question can be answered by looking at the machine/contacting STERN, It might help PRO owners determine how best to tackle the LEDS on the ac/dc PRO model. I am thinking there might be, for all 30 Leds to all change colours at the same time, and the exact same colour. ? because, to my mind, wouldnt all the LEDs just change colours randomly if there wasnt something controlling it ? I know LEDS, but not to this extent !
*Dying to see the LEDS in the higher models. Should be very special. I think Petes going to have a blast, followed by 20 questions from me and a few dozen requests for videos of the new toy ! ^^^
p.s - Steve Ritchie, what a top bloke. That video/documentary of the making of AC?DC is a excellent video. I must have watched it 20 times now. It doesnt get old at all.
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I can't answer your question about software etc, but normally leds that have the ability to change colours do so via a slight controlled voltage variance, in addition it may depend also how they have been wired - in series I think sends the light colour change staggered.
I think people will be ABSOLUTELY BLOWN AWAY when they see the LEDS on the Premium and LE models. ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
I am definately going to do my Pro, but the question I have, is there additional code with the Premium/LE models that makes all the colour changing LEDS work in unison (together at the same time). IF this question can be answered by looking at the machine/contacting STERN, It might help PRO owners determine how best to tackle the LEDS on the ac/dc PRO model. I am thinking there might be, for all 30 Leds to all change colours at the same time, and the exact same colour. ? because, to my mind, wouldnt all the LEDs just change colours randomly if there wasnt something controlling it ? I know LEDS, but not to this extent !
*Dying to see the LEDS in the higher models. Should be very special. I think Petes going to have a blast, followed by 20 questions from me and a few dozen requests for videos of the new toy ! ^^^
p.s - Steve Ritchie, what a top bloke. That video/documentary of the making of AC?DC is a excellent video. I must have watched it 20 times now. It doesnt get old at all.
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I think I read some where that it's in wiring ?
Anyway here's some reading from the Texas show
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.pinball/browse_thread/thread/07ad941cf60188fb
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I wonder if there shipped?
Peter
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here is another photo of the BIBLE,
Does a Star Wars Episode 1 have a blue apron - might be a good mod ????
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here is another photo of the BIBLE,
Does a Star Wars Episode 1 have a blue apron - might be a good mod ????
Yep , blue would of looked so much better IMO
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Out of the two ones turned off and the others getting repaired lol
Peter
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looks fantastic,cant wait to #*#play this
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Good videos.
The Premium backglass/translite looks absolutely terriffic.The red AC/DC letters stand out really well, better than in the brochure pictures, which is good.
Stern and Steve Ritchie have done an amazing job.
It makes me want to buy the Premium on top of the Pro. The lights for the lower playfield look really nice with the red glow.. I like the voice from Hell as well being Steves own voice. A nice touch. Thankyou for the video ANT(Tony) Excellent job.
If there is/are a few software glitches, they will get fixed with the free Stern software upgrades etc.
George Gomez looked stressed during the video etc, but Steve looked pretty cool. It must be embarrassing if a machine plays up at a pinball release. What can you do. Its like the famous saying "if it has tits or a computer board, it will let u down sooner or later". No surprises with the first release of a machine using factory LEDS thru-out.
Anything not perfect will be fixed in 5 seconds with any firmware upgrades, if needed at all.
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sure you could upgrade,Cavey and just get the premium
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I will keep the PRO, cause it plays REALLY REALLY FAST.
IF I Find the Premium plays n looks n feels really really different, I would seriously look at one as well. BUT i am not sure it would be a big enough difference to justify the $$, but will know sooner or later when i play the Premium. The lower playfield voices n red glow, the extra playfield stuff n slightly different rrules just might make it a different feel all-together ? The music makes both machines. (take the music away, and u would have to buy both Pro and Premium for the different playfield etc)
Dont forget, I have to save the pennies for the next Stern title, IF its good/Marvel Superheroes etc etc. Wondering if it will be just as good as the acca daca pinnys, or if it will be a Gomez cost cutter pin, or a Steve Ritchie game with all the extras we all want ? !@#
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Brett this for you mate ,taken from the JJP forum
Taking about AC/DC, I find the following to be potentially strange.
Played the PRO - super, super quick. However the Premium because it
has drops looks way slower....... At Texas Stern did not exhibit a
Pro. Hmmmm, is it just me or does the Pro play better and is that a
big mistake? No doubt that the other versions look better than the
Pro.
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yeh, good point ANT(Tony) I think they showcased the Premium and the LE so the 500 people who had ordered one were kept happy. If they had of taken a PRO along, and people started saying its faster etc, maybe rumours would have got around about the Pro being quicker ? and people may have canned the more expensive models and gone for a Pro (but I highly doubt it, and its pure speculation ofcourse). Maybe the LE models assigned to USA dealers arent all pre-sold like in Australia. ? that makes more sense. But the fact that people have played the LE/Premium now, and have said good things tells me the models will all be sold out in the next few weeks, if not already in the USA etc.
but i think the Premium/LE models will only be 10 or 20 percent slower, marginal anyway, but the fun/challenge of knocking down the remaining drop targets will make up for it and add extra things to do with gameplay objectives. It still makes the LE etc a cracker of a game. Some times u want to work hard on a game, aiming for stuff, and other times u want to just smash the ball around.
the other side of the coin, is that some will say the drop targets are better because it does slow the game down a little, which might be a good thing since the PRO plays ridiculously fast ! I dont mind that, it keeps u on your toes, but the Pro is very very fast, maybe too fast for a novice player ? but having said that, if u can master the AC/DC Pro, u could master anything with that hand/eye co-ordination. (maybe not a pinball for gerry-atricks) lol
It would have been good to see a PRO there, for people to rate as well. I havent heard anyone knocking the Pro yet really, not anyone from the USA
The best lightshow I have ever seen on any pinball is Black Knight 2000, the LE AC/DC is now in front of that. The leds on AC/DC LE/Premium look that good, I think Steve Ritchie is right by saying its the best lit pinny ever. Hard to argue that when u see those videos.
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some photos of the BIBLE
http://www.edslastresort.com/acdc/
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BIBLE
LMAO...
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OK. excellent photos on that link. Getting your backglass signed by Steve Ritchie is a great idea. It just added a grand or more to the resale value I would have thought.
I had the idea of taking my AC/DC Pro translite over to the USA and getting it signed when I visit the STERN factory (I could always post it over after a email ??)
At least we know who scored number 2 BIB LE machine. I would have thought that maybe Steve Ritchie and some of the Stern management people would have kept say the first 5 machines to add to their personal collections. ?
I wonder what machine you are getting Pete(gorgar) ? and also, remember when I found the numbers under the AC/DC Pro machine at AMD and it said something like game Number 31 of 500. That means we will probably get numbers 180/200 and above since alot of Pro machines have been sent all over the USA already. It will be interesting anyway to see what numbers everyone gets !
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AC/DC pinball doco
http://vimeo.com/38787329
sorry just relesed same as a youtube one posted about a week ago. &^&
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Less than 10 my guess
BIB 3 ,4 ,5,6,7,8,9
LTBR 4,5 6 ,7,8,9,10
Could come down under , but only Bruce would know !^!
OK. excellent photos on that link. Getting your backglass signed by Steve Ritchie is a great idea. It just added a grand or more to the resale value I would have thought.
I had the idea of taking my AC/DC Pro translite over to the USA and getting it signed when I visit the STERN factory (I could always post it over after a email ??)
At least we know who scored number 2 BIB LE machine. I would have thought that maybe Steve Ritchie and some of the Stern management people would have kept say the first 5 machines to add to their personal collections. ?
I wonder what machine you are getting Pete(gorgar) ? and also, remember when I found the numbers under the AC/DC Pro machine at AMD and it said something like game Number 31 of 500. That means we will probably get numbers 180/200 and above since alot of Pro machines have been sent all over the USA already. It will be interesting anyway to see what numbers everyone gets !
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this is awesome, AC/DC are so suited to pinball, had to happen eventually. Aside from Kiss, what other band Pinnies are there? It takes a special type of band to pull it off, the only one I could think of would be Guns n Roses
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this is awesome, AC/DC are so suited to pinball, had to happen eventually. Aside from Kiss, what other band Pinnies are there? It takes a special type of band to pull it off, the only one I could think of would be Guns n Roses
Rolling stones, and in the music theme elvis
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Have any AC/DC toppers surfaced yet?
Love to see some pics
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I am working on 2 different ac/dc topper designs. but they wont be ready til my machine comes, then i will take photos and then post when i have mine on my machine and wired up.
i think another member or two might have a topper in the making as well. ?
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nice,I look forward to seeing them
Might pay to make a few ^^^
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Whack a flanny over the top of the backbox and pin it down with a vb or woodstock can...ultimate acdc topper!
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Whack a flanny over the top of the backbox and pin it down with a vb or woodstock can...ultimate acdc topper!
Crap thats what I was going to do :) great minds think the same hey lol
Peter
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Here's a question for AC/DC owners/buyers !
WHERE are u going to locate your pinball machine in your house, so u can crank it right up and play it whenever u want to, without upsetting the neighbours or wife/young kids in the night -time etc ? !@#
I think for some owners, u might as well just permanently leave the coindoor key in the machine because u will be going to the volume buttons on a regular basis to turn it right up, then back to turn it right down again, if that makes sense ! I know once it gets past 8.30 pm in my house, with my 11 yr old daughter, and my 2 yr old son in bed, and usually the wife also retiring at that time, if I CRANKED UP AC/DC at that time of the night, I would be in the shit bigtime.
Anyone else going to be in the same basket.lol @.@ %.% %.%
p.s - anyone know of a headphone/jack mod u can plug a headphone into which cancels out the speakers, maybe a worthwhile mod for someone to make for ac/dc ? !@#
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I dont have that problem
I will be happy to crank up the volume,to drown the kids noise-music out @@*
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A few extra pictures from Texas.
I wouldnt mind those large decent AC/DC posters to hang in the games room as well. ^^^
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When I built my house I sound proofed the walls in my game-room there not 100% but it makes a huge difference. Also kids sleep upstairs and are older so should be able to crank it up and the best part is I'm home till the arvo on my own with neighbours at work so my sub-woofer will get a workout #*#
P:S-nice pictures Brett ^^^
Peter
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The wife's started to buy me some posters for the un-boxing come on bogans stand tall $#$
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AWESOME NEWS
check out the following thread
http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=8185.new#new
in about 1 months time comp N0:2 will have the AC/DC Premium as the lauch machine within a week of arriving in Aus (Newcastle / Central Coast / Sydney area). This is big as this will be a early chance to test play and compete.
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great news about the ac/dc premium swinksy. ^^^
ALSO FOR ALL OTHER AP MEMBERS,
!@# are u a member of the STERN site ? by joining, u get emails n photos n updates sent to u by email which is where i get alot of photos/news from.
just go to www.sternpinball.com which you probably go to anyway, but by being a member u get all different good stuff and their newsletter / regular emails etc. just in case u guys weren't members of the site/newsletter club, i thought i would mention it. ^^^
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AC/DC MODS FOR A PRO MACHINE !
I had a few ideas to add some mods to a AC/DC Pro. I am not sure I will add all the mods but a likely list is below >
*mirror blades
*LEDS
*powder coat legs n lockdown bar fire engine red OR mirror chrome with the siderails n backbox hinges included
* add a custom topper which incl flashing lights hooked up to the flasher circuit on the machine
*replace the cannon plastic with a custom chrome cover and add a red LED/flasher (hooked into the exsisting red flasher) then add the new red flasher to the rear of the cannon.
*get AC/DC and lightning bolts laser cut into the legs and add a flash lamp(s) behind the cutouts
*pinball.life custom starpost flasher kits for the slingshot area plus custom flashing flipper buttons from pinball.life
*cointaker backbox flasher kit designed for the AC/DC Pro which is $169 plus postage ( a bit expensive so i will make my own here)
I know some people like a machine stock as a rock, and adding too much bling is going too far, but its just a few ideas at this stage.
ANYONE ELSE got any potential mods for the PRO ? !@#
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With the mods Cavey - sounds good, but go for a set of side rails with the armour style to protect your decals, and be careful with the cut out in the legs. The legs are reasonable thick steel but if the cut out is to big you could weaken the legs - especially if you or someone else gets into some serious nudging. I would be more inclined to laser cut some lightening bolts and silicon them to the legs if you want to go that way.
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I have been reading a few older posts about box opening partys, taking photos, taping etc, i can tell you i couldn"t be bothered! i' am going to rip open the box and play it! After all its only a game.
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Under Cabinet / top of head box Light kits .
PDI glass
AC/DC MODS FOR A PRO MACHINE !
I had a few ideas to add some mods to a AC/DC Pro. I am not sure I will add all the mods but a likely list is below >
*mirror blades
*LEDS
*powder coat legs n lockdown bar fire engine red OR mirror chrome with the siderails n backbox hinges included
* add a custom topper which incl flashing lights hooked up to the flasher circuit on the machine
*replace the cannon plastic with a custom chrome cover and add a red LED/flasher (hooked into the exsisting red flasher) then add the new red flasher to the rear of the cannon.
*get AC/DC and lightning bolts laser cut into the legs and add a flash lamp(s) behind the cutouts
*pinball.life custom starpost flasher kits for the slingshot area plus custom flashing flipper buttons from pinball.life
*cointaker backbox flasher kit designed for the AC/DC Pro which is $169 plus postage ( a bit expensive so i will make my own here)
I know some people like a machine stock as a rock, and adding too much bling is going too far, but its just a few ideas at this stage.
ANYONE ELSE got any potential mods for the PRO ? !@#
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I have been reading a few older posts about box opening partys, taking photos, taping etc, i can tell you i couldn"t be bothered! i' am going to rip open the box and play it! After all its only a game.
Me to but there will be a couple of blokes watching on :) I'll tape it cause it's the first NIB for me lol
Peter
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I agree Pete, it doesnt hurt to take a video and share the fun of a new in box pinny being opened. I reckon alot of members would enjoy seeing the different AC/DC models being opened and set up. A bit of magic also seeing it powered up for the first time in a home environment and seeing the first game being played ! ^^^
I reckon saving the brand new box, and opening it carefully wouldnt be a bad idea either. If I was ever buying a home use only Stern, and the owner had a minty machine plus the box it came in which was in great condition, I would probably pay a little extra etc. It definately shows a one owner machine if u can get the box etc. ONLY a few more weeks and it will be a reality if the shipping containers arrive ontime ?? !@#
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added this video because it is one of the better ones from marco spec of the premium playfield etc.
I REALLY LIKE THE BRIGHT RED SIDE RAILS etc, and this video shows just how fire engine/ferrari red the colour really is. It does look a little orangey in the brochures/web photos, but here it looks the goods for sure. (I am definately going to powder coat my legs n siderails n lockdown bar red for sure. it looks great !)
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I agree Pete, it doesnt hurt to take a video and share the fun of a new in box pinny being opened. I reckon alot of members would enjoy seeing the different AC/DC models being opened and set up. A bit of magic also seeing it powered up for the first time in a home environment and seeing the first game being played ! ^^^
I reckon saving the brand new box, and opening it carefully wouldnt be a bad idea either. If I was ever buying a home use only Stern, and the owner had a minty machine plus the box it came in which was in great condition, I would probably pay a little extra etc. It definately shows a one owner machine if u can get the box etc. ONLY a few more weeks and it will be a reality if the shipping containers arrive ontime ?? !@#
Oh yes Brett I'll be keeping the box 100% that's part of buying a NIB and yep I will up load a video including picking it up lol
Peter
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I like the idea of the anti glare glass as a great mod for the BIBLE
or any NIB,for that matter
can get locally now,I believe $350 per sheet ^^^
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I find you dont have any glare on a machine from the DOT matrix dispaly if u stick to a few basic rules.
* keep the glass very clean and make sure you dont have any overhead lights directly above the machine, and if u do, make the bulb a very low wattage/or turn off the lights alltogether. The worst lights to have any where near a pinball are overhead neon tube square office style lights. The glare bouncing back into your eyes is dreadful and is a shocker to try n play a game with ofcourse.
I couldnt justify the $300 plus to buy anti glare PDI glass at all. I have never had a glare problem on any of my machines so I always wonder what the fuss is about. The new LCD displays are much higher up so I cant see that being a problem either. I wonder if the PDI glass JJP have used is more of a marketing trick to give Stern a run for their money. All these extra bits n pieces Stern and JJP will end up using may drive the prices up, even with competition.
HAS ANYONE HEARD an approx date for when the containers full of AC/DC machines will arrive for AMD in sydney ? !@# !@# !@#
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maybe some dmd polarised film
http://www.pinballlife.com/index.php?p=product&id=2212&parent=0
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Wife's still buying me stuff how cools this.
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I like that as a topper *%* I'd love to see a cannon mod that actually looks like a cannon. I am still undecided on a NIB either Pro or Premium, think I will wait till I've played both.
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That topper looks great Pete. You can take it apart and turn the lense upside down if u want if its like the ones I have here. Perspex window shld just slot in and out easily. You could mount it on the top of the machine instead of hanging it if u can invert the perspex lense.
I am starting to not like thinking about the AC/DC machine cauise I am over waiting for it to come.lol @.@
Its all good, it will be great when they come. First game wil be like taking panadol after having a bad headache.lol %.% %.%
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I find you dont have any glare on a machine from the DOT matrix dispaly if u stick to a few basic rules.
* keep the glass very clean and make sure you dont have any overhead lights directly above the machine, and if u do, make the bulb a very low wattage/or turn off the lights alltogether. The worst lights to have any where near a pinball are overhead neon tube square office style lights. The glare bouncing back into your eyes is dreadful and is a shocker to try n play a game with ofcourse.
I couldnt justify the $300 plus to buy anti glare PDI glass at all. I have never had a glare problem on any of my machines so I always wonder what the fuss is about. The new LCD displays are much higher up so I cant see that being a problem either. I wonder if the PDI glass JJP have used is more of a marketing trick to give Stern a run for their money. All these extra bits n pieces Stern and JJP will end up using may drive the prices up, even with competition.
HAS ANYONE HEARD an approx date for when the containers full of AC/DC machines will arrive for AMD in sydney ? !@# !@# !@#
LE AC/DC Pins are getting to port on 17th April, about 2/3 days before they cleared etc, hope to have mine by the 23rd, 24th
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I find you dont have any glare on a machine from the DOT matrix dispaly if u stick to a few basic rules.
* keep the glass very clean and make sure you dont have any overhead lights directly above the machine, and if u do, make the bulb a very low wattage/or turn off the lights alltogether. The worst lights to have any where near a pinball are overhead neon tube square office style lights. The glare bouncing back into your eyes is dreadful and is a shocker to try n play a game with ofcourse.
I couldnt justify the $300 plus to buy anti glare PDI glass at all. I have never had a glare problem on any of my machines so I always wonder what the fuss is about. The new LCD displays are much higher up so I cant see that being a problem either. I wonder if the PDI glass JJP have used is more of a marketing trick to give Stern a run for their money. All these extra bits n pieces Stern and JJP will end up using may drive the prices up, even with competition.
HAS ANYONE HEARD an approx date for when the containers full of AC/DC machines will arrive for AMD in sydney ? !@# !@# !@#
LE AC/DC Pins are getting to port on 17th April, about 2/3 days before they cleared etc, hope to have mine by the 23rd, 24th
That's right about 2 weeks
Peter
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Here is a lighting kit that flashers to the beat of the music, it can run through the various colours or stay on one colour.
Plug n Play through a guy on Pinside.
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fs-acdc-cabinet-music-mod
Here is his video.
utoplay=1&rel=0
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Nice find , thanks for sharing
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There are some great pics on IPDB
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I still have the Pro and love it. Speed doesnt get old. Even so I just ordered the Premium. I feel this could be a pin that stays in my collection a very long time. For me that is rare.
ACDC made me a better player. Now I dont care for slower machines! So I have to sell my HUO LOTR. I just stopped playing it because games were so long.
I hope to have mine by end of April.
Glass off video of mine. 1.4 update
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I will be very interested to see how the two compare
Great that you think the Pro is so good and it has improved your skills
Which LE,would have you chosen??
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I still have the Pro and love it. Speed doesnt get old. Even so I just ordered the Premium. I feel this could be a pin that stays in my collection a very long time. For me that is rare.
ACDC made me a better player. Now I dont care for slower machines! So I have to sell my HUO LOTR. I just stopped playing it because games were so long.
I hope to have mine by end of April.
Glass off video of mine. 1.4 update
Good work thx for update this will be a killer pinball and nothing will come close for a long time.
Peter
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Guys, I just found a real good video of the AC/DC LE and Premium models shot at the pinball festival.
go to the www.acdcpinball.com site, and go down to the first video on the top left and hit play. You will see HD video starting with the AC/DC Back in Black Model (u shld like this one Pete)
see what u guys think of the video ^^^
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Guys, I just found a real good video of the AC/DC LE and Premium models shot at the pinball festival.
go to the www.acdcpinball.com site, and go down to the first video on the top left and hit play. You will see HD video strating with the AC/DC Back in Black Model (u shld like this one Pete)
see what u guys think of the video ^^^
Cheers mate I'll check it out now..
Peter ^^^
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Here is the picture of number 2 LTBRock machine which was at the Texas show which is now sitting in the owners house with the rest of the owners collection. He said on pinside it had 505 games played on it over the 3 days. It will take 100 times that ofcourse before it ever needs anything to fix.
Second is a picture of the owner with Steve Ritchie. ^^^
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Geez I wonder what he paid for it having that many games on it? also Brett the video link only had video of the premium not BIBLE?
Peter
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I got this from pinside for those interested.
"There was an update on the premium code. At the start of the video, I say the difference is significant.. well, noticeable is more correct. Things I noticed, sound differences and lcd differences in animation, I didn't notice any rule differences, but that doesn't mean they weren't changed.
http://youtu.be/rG0XfJHcUSw
I did get into the settings to see if there was a more vulgar Steve ritchie setting. There is still only normal and family, maybe this will be an LE difference? Steve has eluded to some serious swearing at shows, it would be cool to have as an easter egg too, sort of like the mortal kombat blood code."
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Pete(Gorgar) did u watch this one which shows the Black in Black models at the start ?
ibDlQ&index=2&feature=plcp
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I look forward to finally playing an AC/DC pin this week. Very curious how it plays and looks in the flesh.
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Steve Ritchie looks like Gus Gould... :lol
No no no no no.
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I look forward to finally playing an AC/DC pin this week. Very curious how it plays and looks in the flesh.
which are are u playing rotty ? !@# and a sited one or a NIB at a members etc ?
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Just a sited Pro model. I'm an AC/DC fan though my initial thoughts aren't too positive, but i'll wait and see after playing it tomorrow before
I rule it out totally.
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Can't wait to play one on location - any news Melbourne?
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$#$ I have recieved a email from Bruce AMD, yesterday, and everything is still on track for the containers to be unpacked by 17th April.
Machines then distributed to buyers from there ofcourse.
Not long now AC/DC fans ! ^^^
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$#$ I have recieved a email from Bruce AMD, yesterday, and everything is still on track for the containers to be unpacked by 17th April.
Machines then distributed to buyers from there ofcourse.
Not long now AC/DC fans ! ^^^
Melbourne by 23rd ??
Peter
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$#$ I have recieved a email from Bruce AMD, yesterday, and everything is still on track for the containers to be unpacked by 17th April.
Machines then distributed to buyers from there ofcourse.
Not long now AC/DC fans ! ^^^
Does he have any extra ? !@#
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YES, but be very very quick if u want one from this first container, or u will have to wait til the next container delivery, which Bruce can help u with, time wise. Bruce has had alot of extra orders for the Pro and Premium models. You might be lucky to find one of each left IF they didnt sell this last few days. Both models are still selling very very strongly.
I asked Bruce from AMD what was the biggest selling Stern ever, and he confirms it is AC/DC. ^^^
ALSO, I asked what was the biggest selling other pin in the history of Australia (purchased new when first being sold, and it was 600 Adams Family machines, with AC/DC now second, with the Star Wars Data East/and Jurrassic Park Data East very close behind. Interesting !
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YES, but be very very quick if u want one from this first container, or u will have to wait til the next container delivery, which Bruce can help u with, time wise. Bruce has had alot of extra orders for the Pro and Premium models. You might be lucky to find one of each left IF they didnt sell this last few days. Both models are still selling very very strongly.
I asked Bruce from AMD what was the biggest selling Stern ever, and he confirms it is AC/DC. ^^^
ALSO, I asked what was the biggest selling other pin in the history of Australia (purchased new when first being sold, and it was 600 Adams Family machines, with AC/DC now second, with the Star Wars Data East/and Jurrassic Park Data East very close behind. Interesting !
100 AC/DC pins sold in Perth alone,not bad for a population of just over 1 million ^^^
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YES, but be very very quick if u want one from this first container, or u will have to wait til the next container delivery, which Bruce can help u with, time wise. Bruce has had alot of extra orders for the Pro and Premium models. You might be lucky to find one of each left IF they didnt sell this last few days. Both models are still selling very very strongly.
I asked Bruce from AMD what was the biggest selling Stern ever, and he confirms it is AC/DC. ^^^
ALSO, I asked what was the biggest selling other pin in the history of Australia (purchased new when first being sold, and it was 600 Adams Family machines, with AC/DC now second, with the Star Wars Data East/and Jurrassic Park Data East very close behind. Interesting !
100 AC/DC pins sold in Perth alone,not bad for a population of just over 1 million ^^^
100 just in Perth that's incredible wonder how many Australia wide
Peter
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Stupid question.. Are the pro models available yet?
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Pete(Gorgar) did u watch this one which shows the Black in Black models at the start ?
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Yeah i did thanks Brett that's a cool video
Peter
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Stupid question.. Are the pro models available yet?
Only a handful Daniel that originally came in but within 2 weeks there should be a heap around as the 1st containers will be here
Peter
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I asked Bruce from AMD what was the biggest selling Stern ever, and he confirms it is AC/DC. ^^^
That's a great result.
Wonder what the numbers were for 24 !@#
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YES, but be very very quick if u want one from this first container, or u will have to wait til the next container delivery, which Bruce can help u with, time wise. Bruce has had alot of extra orders for the Pro and Premium models. You might be lucky to find one of each left IF they didnt sell this last few days. Both models are still selling very very strongly.
I asked Bruce from AMD what was the biggest selling Stern ever, and he confirms it is AC/DC. ^^^
ALSO, I asked what was the biggest selling other pin in the history of Australia (purchased new when first being sold, and it was 600 Adams Family machines, with AC/DC now second, with the Star Wars Data East/and Jurrassic Park Data East very close behind. Interesting !
100 AC/DC pins sold in Perth alone,not bad for a population of just over 1 million ^^^
100 just in Perth that's incredible wonder how many Australia wide
Peter
Curious to know if any are headed up north - surely BHP have put in orders for the blokes @ Port Hedland.
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Sweet should have enough cash by then @@*
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YES, but be very very quick if u want one from this first container, or u will have to wait til the next container delivery, which Bruce can help u with, time wise. Bruce has had alot of extra orders for the Pro and Premium models. You might be lucky to find one of each left IF they didnt sell this last few days. Both models are still selling very very strongly.
I'm tempted. It played better than i expected. Might wait and see if any come on the used market in the coming months. Might not be worth waiting for a small saving though.
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One important thing to remember, is that the Australian dollar has gone from $1.12 USA and slipped back to $1.03 etc.
That $5950 price wont last 4 ever and will slowly creep back to the $6600 ish mark if the dollar keeps sliding.
Also, that sub 6 grand pricing also capitalises on the fact that all the machines are arriving in seafreight containers. When the orders go back to airfreight etc, the excellent short term $5950 pricing has to change back to the much higher pricing if my calculations are correct.
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I'm tempted. It played better than i expected. Might wait and see if any come on the used market in the coming months. Might not be worth waiting for a small saving though.
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I doubt very few will end up on the used market in the coming months/years?? this title in my opinion will be thinly traded in the second hand market.
Just my thoughts...
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That may be true for the LE models, but i'm sure some Pro models will change hands. If you're right, i'm sure there will still be plenty of Pro models available for some time to come.
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I'm tempted. It played better than i expected. Might wait and see if any come on the used market in the coming months. Might not be worth waiting for a small saving though.
I doubt very few will end up on the used market in the coming months/years?? this title in my opinion will be thinly traded in the second hand market.
Just my thoughts...
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IF they come up on the 2nd hand market, i doubt any savings at all unless STERN keep running with production... try finding an ELVIS machine 2nd hand... you cant. I know people who have ELVIS + ELVIS GOLD in the collection... neither are for sale or ever will be.
ACDC will be the best machine STERN will make for a very long time and if people part with them then youll be paying $5K+ for a used one.
Have to agree with Cavey on this... tad under $6K for NIB is the best youll ever get on these. Remember than Aus$ against US$ should be around the 80c mark.. weve had a good run while US markets dropped but they are bouncing back now and our $$ will drop again... couple of years and we'll be back to 80c or so normality
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Some pros will come up for sale 2nd hand after they have been sited or when some private owners who got caught up in the over-hype get bored sensless with it , I have no doubt about that whatsoever.
There are a few Elvis out there and most Elvis gold have lost the gold trim and are a crap investment.
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delivery next week #*#
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Elvis do come onto the market. I have seen 3 on ebay in the last two months alone for $8k, $5.5k and $4.5k. I do believe some AC/DC Pro models will come onto the market too, but i take your point on the NIB pricing with the $AU vs $US.
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I think some L E models will hit the market from people who bought them ,just to make money
They will be more than the RRP
Grab a Premium or pro,while you can ^^^
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Between the fast n furious gameplay, then the great music, its going to be a "keeper title" for a very long time. Even the Steve Ritchie voice overs are going to be a great addition. I hope every AP member gets to play another members AC/DC machine, cause it would be great to see everyone enjoy the new title and see what a great job STERN have done. People will be blown away by the quality of the music/audio. Best pinny audio ever.
I cant see anyone getting bored of these great machines at all. If anything, people will play one, love it, then order one for themselves if they can.
I would imagine 99 percent of new owners will probably feel the same way. Maybe someone may sell a PRO to upgrade to a Premium or a LE, but it will be few n far between. I am betting that almost everyone who recieves their new machines this next few weeks will give positive reviews.
I havent met anyone yet who didnt think it wasnt a cracker of a game.
Add a little or alot of cold alcohol, crank up the volume, and its "pinny party get plastered time".lol ^^^
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I got #105 I did order very late so I'm very happy maybe this time next week ?
Peter
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Spoke to Leo at Cashbox Melbourne and 17th next Tuesday should be in the house!
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Great, hopefully the hype will die down a bit and life can move on back to normal after they have been distributed out. Man I hope so..... This is throwing the polarity right out of whack...turn down the gravity!
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The "hype" is only going to get alot worse cause all us new AC/DC owners are going to ramble on about our machines for a few weeks or a few months yet, maybe even ramble on for a few more years, even decades. By the time we are all finished, we would have had AC/DC tattoéd onto our foreheads.
It could be worse, you could have a 12 yr old daughter who rambles on about that gayish boy band called One Direction... @.@
Thats the differenece when I was a kid, we listened to ZZ Top, Jimi Hendrix, Spy Vs Spy, AC/DC, Hoodoo Gurus, The Angles and quite a few other great bands we used to go and watch. Now young blokes go to One Direction. How very sad the world has become.lol %.% %.% %.%
My neighbours have 3 girls, who listen to One Direction. Next week, they are going to get a lesson on how loud AC/DC sounds coming from a Stern pinny, and LOUD it will be. ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
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The "hype" is only going to get alot worse cause all us new AC/DC owners are going to ramble on about our machines for a few weeks or a few months yet, maybe even ramble on for a few more years, even decades. By the time we are all finished, we would have had AC/DC tattoéd onto our foreheads.
It could be worse, you could have a 12 yr old daughter who rambles on about that gayish boy band called One Direction... @.@
Thats the differenece when I was a kid, we listened to ZZ Top, Jimi Hendrix, Spy Vs Spy, AC/DC, Hoodoo Gurus, The Angles and quite a few other great bands we used to go and watch. Now young blokes go to One Direction. How very sad the world has become.lol %.% %.% %.%
My neighbours have 3 girls, who listen to One Direction. Next week, they are going to get a lesson on how loud AC/DC sounds coming from a Stern pinny, and LOUD it will be. ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
Old man
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The "hype" is only going to get alot worse cause all us new AC/DC owners are going to ramble on about our machines for a few weeks or a few months yet, maybe even ramble on for a few more years, even decades. By the time we are all finished, we would have had AC/DC tattoéd onto our foreheads.
It could be worse, you could have a 12 yr old daughter who rambles on about that gayish boy band called One Direction... @.@
Thats the differenece when I was a kid, we listened to ZZ Top, Jimi Hendrix, Spy Vs Spy, AC/DC, Hoodoo Gurus, The Angles and quite a few other great bands we used to go and watch. Now young blokes go to One Direction. How very sad the world has become.lol %.% %.% %.%
My neighbours have 3 girls, who listen to One Direction. Next week, they are going to get a lesson on how loud AC/DC sounds coming from a Stern pinny, and LOUD it will be. ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
Old man
Get with the times Brett
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Spoke to Leo at Cashbox Melbourne and 17th next Tuesday should be in the house!
Lets hope so #*#
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ACDC in Comp
http://vimeo.com/40321422
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The clip looks amazing
what a light show
going to take a while to work out all the rules,thats for sure
Not a pin to get bored of easily,I would think
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Awesome video thanks for posting and yeah awesome rules and isn't that lower PF very fast
Peter
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The ball bounces around so FAST that it is going to take a while to work out the rules.lol
Gee the lighting on the Premium/LE looks great. I was going to try to leave my PRO stoick standard, but it looks like I will have to put LED's thru the whole machine as soon as I can. I am a little undecided about it, cause the machine did look great with std bulbs/the way it was from factory when i saw the machine brand new at AMD.
I guess the fun will be working out whether to touch it or not. It shld be a fun fortnight for a few lucky people anyway.
WHO WILL BE the first to recieve their AC/DC MACHINES ? from the forum. !@# tick tock tick tock. lol
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Leo rang me yesterday, i am getting #68 ( LE Rock)
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The ball bounces around so FAST that it is going to take a while to work out the rules.lol
Gee the lighting on the Premium/LE looks great. I was going to try to leave my PRO stoick standard, but it looks like I will have to put LED's thru the whole machine as soon as I can. I am a little undecided about it, cause the machine did look great with std bulbs/the way it was from factory when i saw the machine brand new at AMD.
I guess the fun will be working out whether to touch it or not. It shld be a fun fortnight for a few lucky people anyway.
WHO WILL BE the first to recieve their AC/DC MACHINES ? from the forum. !@# tick tock tick tock. lol
I couldn't sleep last night thinking about it sad I know :) but I can't wait. One thing though the clear cover over the lower PF did look murcy almost blury, but having said that it's flow and speed made me very happy
Peter
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I couldn't sleep last night thinking about it sad I know :) but I can't wait.
Jesus %.% You'll have to give yourself a few days off work when it does arrive.
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I couldn't sleep last night thinking about it sad I know :) but I can't wait.
Jesus %.% You'll have to give yourself a few days off work when it does arrive.
Yep I plan on it I can feel a sore throat coming on lol
Peter
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vid1900 from Pinside went to Michigan Pinball Expo
"The AC/DC had the lower playfield installed and all red painted lockdown, legs and rails.
The red paint looked great, but it will certainly not last as long as all of the stainless steel seen on most machines.
The cab had lots of fake damage that looked like torn Tolex amp covering; familiar to any working musician. That was a cool touch - and could save some money on decals in the future LOL."
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Who is going to give their wife first game on AC/DC ? !@# #@# #@#
Did anyone order a PRO, or am I the only person ? !@# !@# (except Leon(V8racefan) who also ordered a PRO.
Anyone order a Premium ? !@# !@# !@# !@#
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1st ever NIB!!, only a few more days to wait ()
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I'm getting a pro. I like my games simple so premium and le will just have extra stuff to confuse me lol
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Great, hopefully the hype will die down a bit and life can move on back to normal after they have been distributed out. Man I hope so..... This is throwing the polarity right out of whack...turn down the gravity!
Thats a selfish attitude!
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Who is going to give their wife first game on AC/DC ? !@# #@# #@#
Did anyone order a PRO, or am I the only person ? !@# !@# (except Leon(V8racefan) who also ordered a PRO.
Anyone order a Premium ? !@# !@# !@# !@#
I'm seriously thinking about buying a Pro model after playing one last week. I think a few extras like mirror blades, LEDs and red pin cab protectors will really suit it.
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This time next week we might be playing them ??
Peter
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I DARE ANYONE who recieves a NIB pinball to put it in your loungeroom and leave it untouched in its box for one week ! #@# #@# #@#
then u can play it after a week... any takers ? #(& #(& **&
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I DARE ANYONE who recieves a NIB pinball to put it in your loungeroom and leave it untouched in its box for one week ! #@# #@# #@#
then u can play it after a week... any takers ? #(& #(& **&
Consider it done!!!!!!!!!!
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1st ever NIB!!, only a few more days to wait ()
+1 me to $#$
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I just love rock band themed pins, Ac Dc is a killer of a game!!!!
Stern pinball have done the band proud, great design & best audio on a pinball machine ever, well done AC DC & Stern $#$
Exciting week ahead for aussie pinball collectors.
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I DARE ANYONE who recieves a NIB pinball to put it in your loungeroom and leave it untouched in its box for one week ! #@# #@# #@#
then u can play it after a week... any takers ? #(& #(& **&
Get yours delievered here Cavey and i can guarantee i wont open it for at least a few years.. thats a promise
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!@# I am imagining that people will start posting on AP or AA when AMD starts unloading their containers in Sydney.
If anyone from Sydney is going into AMD and gets to witness the mass amount of AC/DC machines getting unloaded etc, it would be great to see some photos etc.
Also, Bruce from AMD has probably had every man and his dog emailing and phoning him asking WHEN WHEN WHEN can we get our AC/DC machines (which is a good problem to have ofcourse) but I am sure he will be very happy when the machines are all sent out.
IF ANYONE happens to get their machine from AMD, feel free to post a picture etc and tell us all your story. I imagine the Sydney guys will be unpacking their machines first. ^^^
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I'm waiting on a day to go pick mine up there sittin out the LE's first which makes sence
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I thought interstate orders were freighted from where they arrive to save double handling
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I thought interstate orders were freighted from where they arrive to save double handling
All machines arrived in Sydney at AMD and were being unpacked yesterday and today. It doesnt matter if its a Pro or a LE, its being sent straight off at the same time to its new owner via truck ofcourse. Joes container(s) for the guys over the other side of the country are going straight to him from the USA I understand which makes sense and saves time n money ofcourse.
Bruce from AMD tells me today they got 69 machines in each of the containers. If my calculations are correct, there is probably close to 300 AC/DC machines by the time u add up all the machines for all the states. If the sales keep going strong, maybe the AC/DC range will surpass the Addams Family machine sales which came to apx 600 machines in its day for Australian delivered.
Bruce from AMD is a top bloke and I always enjoy having a chat with him. The machines are being sent out so people shld have good news n happy times very very soon !
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I thought interstate orders were freighted from where they arrive to save double handling
All machines arrived in Sydney at AMD and were being unpacked yesterday and today. It doesnt matter if its a Pro or a LE, its being sent straight off at the same time to its new owner via truck ofcourse. Joes container(s) for the guys over the other side of the country are going straight to him from the USA I understand which makes sense and saves time n money ofcourse.
Bruce from AMD tells me today they got 69 machines in each of the containers. If my calculations are correct, there is probably close to 300 AC/DC machines by the time u add up all the machines for all the states. If the sales keep going strong, maybe the AC/DC range will surpass the Addams Family machine sales which came to apx 600 machines in its day for Australian delivered.
Bruce from AMD is a top bloke and I always enjoy having a chat with him. The machines are being sent out so people shld have good news n happy times very very soon !
Does that mean the Victorian machines are being trucked down Brett as I thought they came direct to Melbourne in a container??
Peter
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I was told that all stock has gone to AMD then everything is sent off from Sydney.
Obviously for me, my one x machine will be given to a truck company and sent to Brisbane, and probably with another Dozen machines all heading to a Brisbane depot, before being picked n sent to our home addressés etc.
It does make sense that if a whack of machines are going to Cashbox in VIC, that they would be repacked back into a container and then sent to VIC if the numbers permit the use of a container. But everything goes to Sydney first. The Stern dealers all buy thru AMD, and they cant get stock sent to them directly unless its a special situation like Joes stuff was from the USA with the permission/organisation of AMD.
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I received today in the post my invoice today from Bruce @ AMD with my AC DC Pro order details & serial details etc... I will frame this invoice ^^^
Any other AC DC pinball owners receive there invoice today??? !@#
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It will be interesting in years to come to see ACDC pinballs for sale on Ebay saying HUO... the term will mean very very little
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Ya lost me Gav, do u mean Home use Ones will get lots of play compared to sited ones ?
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It will be interesting in years to come to see ACDC pinballs for sale on Ebay saying HUO... the term will mean very very little
It never meant much to me anyway. Just an excuse to tack on $1500 to the price tag.
Actual condition has always been king to me, especially these days since most of the Sterns located onsite (in my area, it is mostly pub locations) rarely get played. I watched an op empty out the cashbox of a Family Guy for the princely sum of $12 ($4 of that was mine) and he does the collection run/maintenance check every 2 weeks.
The pin is played less/has less mileage than most of the machines in collector's homes.
But I digress.
As for ACDC, have we considered what will happen to Pro and Premium values if it goes into the rerun scenario adopted by Stern's production philosophy (Simpsons, LOTR, Spiderman)?
Try selling a "HUO ACDC" for $5000, when you can get a NIB with factory warranty for $5900.
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Try selling a "HUO ACDC" for $5000, when you can get a NIB with factory warranty for $5900.
If i don't end up buying one new, I would be prepared to buy a HUO AC/DC for a grand less. What warranty do you get with a NIB Stern, from AMD for example ? What does it cover and for how long ?
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I was talking to Bruce today about the aussie dollar, and basically it was good whilst it lasted.The current $5950 plus delivery price shld be taken advantage of whilst it is here, it cant last 4ever. The pricing would normally be $6600 and people need to remember the $5950 pricing was a Pre-order special that Bruce has kindly kept going.
The first batch of AC/DC Pro machines were discounted heavily because Bruce/AMD passed on the savings he could make by sending machines from the USA to Australia by seafreight in a container and the numbers for a big order supported that. BUT the aussie dollar has gone from $1.12 when the deal was done back to the $1.03 mark, interest rates have gone up, and it is unlikely that new machines will be able to be offered for the same pricing unless bruce has excessive stock etc of AC/DC.
Although Bruce has left the current Pro pricing at $5950, the replacement/purchase price to compare against shld really be considered at $6600 unless the aussie dollar gets better again, and if machines are sent another way other than seafreight which will have to happen. $5950 wont be around for too long. Best to buy sooner than later whilst Bruce keeps that pricing discounted heavily.
(warranty is 6 months and it covers mostly everything)
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For those waiting Premiums arrive 3-4 weeks time.
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Melbourne machines still haven't cleared customs :( I was gunna just pick it up but after reading other reports it's probally better to get the pinball checked over before picking it up as these are abit different and require about 30 mins of work before turning it on any thoughts?
Peter
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nothing that cant be sorted out once it gets here one would hope
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So the container is yet to be delivered too Cashbox.....hmm, looks like pick up is in order for this Saturday.
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So the container is yet to be delivered too Cashbox.....hmm, looks like pick up is in order for this Saturday.
That's what I was thinking see ya Saturday lol
Peter
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not sure about the machine needing 30 minutes of checking over. the new ac/dc machine should just require a quick check of all the plugs being on solid in the backbox, then a quick check of all the connections under the playfield, then it should be up up n away.
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Car park meet. LOL Hoping we don't get the rain from QLD/NSW.
Not long now guys.
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ALSO there are Premiums at AMD already, u can see them clearly in the warehouse photos. I will try to upload the photos onto AP soon.
In the original warehouse pictures (which are much larger than these I have copied to AP) the machines behind the AMD guy with his thumbs up are Premiums. So not sure about the 3 or 4 week delivery time, unless more are coming in 3 or 4 weeks.
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Yeah, we have pics.
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I heard from Luke yesterday who said he was talking to AMD and he said Pro's and LE's in now and Premiums in 3-4 weeks. But maybe he missed out on the first batch of Prem's ???
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I'm a little worried almost time to get a new in box ac/dc but I'm more excited about another maybe purchase is that wrong????
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I heard from Luke yesterday who said he was talking to AMD and he said Pro's and LE's in now and Premiums in 3-4 weeks. But maybe he missed out on the first batch of Prem's ???
(more photos of ac/dc pins arriving at AMD below)
and I think u are right Swinksy, the Premium's AMD got in, are probably showroom models for them to sell some off, and I would imagine the limited number they got are already sold etc. It does make sense that the next decent order of Premiums and Pros will be in the next containers in the 3 weeks etc u mentioned.
I havent heard any specific transport/delivery information yet from AMD for my AC/DC Pro. They have all the information required to send it etc, but I am assuming they are in the process of ordering trucks to send them out on. I didnt want mine opened or checked (just the shaker motor placed inside the Stern box resting at the top which is what they do with shaker motors for clients who will self fit etc) so, I am chomping at the bit to hear some delivery information... tick tock tick tock..its fun to know its coming, but so close, yet so far.lol ^&^
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more AMD factory photos of ac/dc pins arriving ^^^
note - certificate of authenticity taped onto Back in Black LE backglass with certificate inside what appears to be a plastic sleeve.
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Hope the rain has cleared in Alexandria.....don't want those pinnies getting wet.
Here's a pic of Parramatta over an hour ago.
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!*! Pins have landed in BRISVEGAS! Yah!
picking up tomorrow #*#
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Where's melbournes?
Peter
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mine will be in sa by the weekend,i''m told. $#$
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!*! Pins have landed in BRISVEGAS! Yah!
picking up tomorrow #*#
I havent heard a word about mine... !@# must be close to the Gold Coast if Brisvegas has some landing ?
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Couple of Geelong boys are collecting there limited editions tomorrow. One couldn't decide so he got both lucky bugger
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party
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PAPA - Round 10 - 4 players competing on AC/DC Premium
great for learning about the game.
http://papa.org/blog/2012/04/pinburgh-video-coverage-begins/
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Leo at Cashbox has just informed me Friday cointainer arrives - friday avo I pick up ^^^ ^&^ $#$ @@*
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Where's melbournes?
Peter
about 4 hours south of Sydney
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Where's melbournes?
Peter
about 4 hours south of Sydney
Bugger lol I'm told we can get them tomorrow arvo
Peter
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One important thing to remember, is that the Australian dollar has gone from $1.12 USA and slipped back to $1.03 etc.
That $5950 price wont last 4 ever and will slowly creep back to the $6600 ish mark if the dollar keeps sliding.
Also, that sub 6 grand pricing also capitalises on the fact that all the machines are arriving in seafreight containers. When the orders go back to airfreight etc, the excellent short term $5950 pricing has to change back to the much higher pricing if my calculations are correct.
Not quite yet by the looks of it. Kids Just Wanna Have Fun have Avatar and Rolling Stones, NIB, available mid May for the same price of $5950 according to their FB update. I wonder what the price ( and title ) will be for the next new Stern. I think i need to go and play the AC/DC Pro again and see if i enjoy it as much second time round.
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Correct. Joe ordered these Avatar/Tron etc machines over a month ago when the dollar was $1.12. I spoke to him then about a Avatar and he had done the deal on these extras to fill his container back 4 weeks ago. He got the last of those models before Stern shutdown other titles for all AC/DC production. Thats the only reason he can still advertise them for the lower price because he bought them back when the dollar was $1.12.
I get to pick my machine up Tomorrow morning from the Gold Coast depot, or I can wait for tomorrow arvo for a homne delivery.
I got a call from AMD late this arvo so that was great to hear it had already been sent and I got the tracking number etc. AMD did say that they have busted their butts to get every machine out for everyone to hopefully get for this weekend IF the trucking companies could deliver them/transport them on time. Kudos for AMD to going out of their way to try n make as many owners as happy as they could for a weekend delivery etc. Well done AMD and staff.
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Correct. Joe ordered these Avatar/Tron etc machines over a month ago when the dollar was $1.12. I spoke to him then about a Avatar and he had done the deal on these extras to fill his container back 4 weeks ago. He got the last of those models before Stern shutdown other titles for all AC/DC production. Thats the only reason he can still advertise them for the lower price because he bought them back when the dollar was $1.12.
I get to pick my machine up Tomorrow morning from the Gold Coast depot, or I can wait for tomorrow arvo for a homne delivery.
I got a call from AMD late this arvo so that was great to hear it had already been sent and I got the tracking number etc. AMD did say that they have busted their butts to get every machine out for everyone to hopefully get for this weekend IF the trucking companies could deliver them/transport them on time. Kudos for AMD to going out of their way to try n make as many owners as happy as they could for a weekend delivery etc. Well done AMD and staff.
Well done Brett that's great your machine has arrived make sure you post heaps of pics
Peter
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Oh go pick it up.... transport company delivering SOMETIME Friday... invariably turns into Monday
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I think u are right Gav. I dont fancy my chances of a friday arvo delivery.lol All the goldcoast TNT employees will be thinking about hitting the beer or the beach around lunchtime i would reckon.lol
also, AMD started at the front of the 69 machines and just went hell for leather sending them out. no-one got any preference, it didnt matter what u ordered, the pile got attacked from the front till there was only a few left. its all random as to who/where/when what machine gets delivered etc.
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Trust Bruce to use TNT to transport the AC DC pinball nationwide %.%
Well done to the AMD team to dispatch 69 pins in less than 4 days!!
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^&^
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Correct. Joe ordered these Avatar/Tron etc machines over a month ago when the dollar was $1.12. I spoke to him then about a Avatar and he had done the deal on these extras to fill his container back 4 weeks ago. He got the last of those models before Stern shutdown other titles for all AC/DC production. Thats the only reason he can still advertise them for the lower price because he bought them back when the dollar was $1.12.
I get to pick my machine up Tomorrow morning from the Gold Coast depot, or I can wait for tomorrow arvo for a homne delivery.
I got a call from AMD late this arvo so that was great to hear it had already been sent and I got the tracking number etc. AMD did say that they have busted their butts to get every machine out for everyone to hopefully get for this weekend IF the trucking companies could deliver them/transport them on time. Kudos for AMD to going out of their way to try n make as many owners as happy as they could for a weekend delivery etc. Well done AMD and staff.
There wont be any TRONs in the container and Im sure he wishes he got the rate of $1.12
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Fingers cross for no damages guys.
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The high aussie dollar didnt last long did it ?
yeh, TNT is usually very good with its shipping, but i wouldnt sleep real good with a machine sitting at its depot all weekend, someone down there might take a shine to it and put it in their bar room instead of mine, hence me wanting to pick mine up.
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it crossed my mind brett.i am informed no one has ever stolen one in delivery,but a few have got damaged.
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Best of luck to all those who are now chomping at the bit to receive the ACDC pinnie... i hope everything goes well for you all and that NONE of you have to wait till Monday.
AP will be quiet tomorrow night... too much flannel shirt flipper action happening!
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i am dying to see my 2 yr old little champion Hunter dancing on the pinny when he hears the music.lol it shld be a hoot to watch %.%
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+ 1 to the flannel shirt flipper action %.% well said Gav
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mum just bought me a black t-shirt that ill ware under the cotton designer flanny.i'll take some pics,youl see.lol
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the flanny atire matches bib,blue black white.
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Fingers crossed I have a good weekend time will tell, congrats to all that have theres
Peter
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Fingers crossed I have a good weekend time will tell, congrats to all that have theres
Peter
The BIB looks F*&^#$% Awesome Pete, hope you get to open the NIB BIB this weekend, lots of memorable pinball moments for aussie pinballers $#$
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mum just bought me a black t-shirt that ill ware under the cotton designer flanny.i'll take some pics,youl see.lol
funny as %.%
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Fingers crossed I have a good weekend time will tell, congrats to all that have theres
Peter
Hey Peter,have you got it???
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I looked up my tracking number with TNT and found >
Electronically Lodged/Job Booked 19/04/2012 13:02 Chullora SYDNEY SYS
Collected-Cust Premises (CIT) 19/04/2012 16:29 Chullora SYDNEY SYS
Received in Depot 19/04/2012 18:25 Chullora SYDNEY SYS
Arrived Gold Coast/On Board For Home Delivery-Full 20/04/2012 10:15 Gold Coast
* I was going down to pick it up from the depoot but I found that the Sydney truck dropped all the contents onboard at the Coolongatta Depot (1 x hour away) then it was placed on another truck for home delivery before 5 pm. BUT I have a feeling, the truck will drop the item up to my nearest TNT depot for them to drop off etc, which I doubt will happen today. Just have to wait and see what happens, or it will be Monday delivery.
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Fingers crossed I have a good weekend time will tell, congrats to all that have theres
Peter
Hey Peter,have you got it???
Very very soon I hope $#$
Peter
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!@# The 64 million dollar question is, do u play your first game 100 percent sober, or do u have a few celebration alcohol drinks before you play the first game ? I think I will opt for a few cold Jim Beam and cokes poured over ice before playing the first game. !@#
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Well I hope everyone enjoys there AC/DC pins when they arrive as per usual the one thing I've had to look forward to and I somehow missed out now I have to wait till next shipment feels like another Xmas day dissapointment
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MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED
MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED
MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED
MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED
The guy from TNT asked "ïs there a special on these pinballs or something, I have been delivering them all morning"
Anyway, mine has finally arrived at my front door. Pictures a bit later. ^^^
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what hapened with yours Daniel ? next shipment is less than 3 weeks away.
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Congrats Brett.
That's pretty darn good service from TNT - well done AMD!!
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MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED
MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED
MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED
MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED MINE ARRIVED
The guy from TNT asked "ïs there a special on these pinballs or something, I have been delivering them all morning"
Anyway, mine has finally arrived at my front door. Pictures a bit later. ^^^
Awesome stuff Brett can't wait for pics..
Peter
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Any news on yours Peter?
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Thank GOD they have arrived!!! :D
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what hapened with yours Daniel ? next shipment is less than 3 weeks away.
f**k KNOWS BRETT
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C'mon Melbourne, the "Pressure is building" LOL
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Nice going guys , congrats to all who have bought their first NIB .
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So brett
Guess we wont hear from you for a while
Too busy testing the new toy
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Looking forward to hearing about member's views in home use, will be interesting.
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Mines in the car and I'm 20mins away
Peter
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So brett
Guess we wont hear from you for a while
Too busy testing the new toy
Mine is sitting in my loungeroom still 100 percent wrapped up like it came.
It is like getting a very beautiful woman to come home with you, do u rip her clothes off straight away, or do u have a few bourbans and then slide into it.lol
(I had to get rid of the kids to their friday night community play centre where they go til 9pm, so i could then attack the machine without 20 cooks in the kitchen) As at 4.30 pm, its been sitting here for 3 or 4 hours untouched, and I reckon i will start unwrapping it within the next hour or so)
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Mines in the car and I'm 20mins away
Peter
Awesome Peter.
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So brett
Guess we wont hear from you for a while
Too busy testing the new toy
Mine is sitting in my loungeroom still 100 percent wrapped up like it came.
It is like getting a very beautiful woman to come home with you, do u rip her clothes off straight away, or do u have a few bourbans and then slide into it.lol
(I had to get rid of the kids to their friday night community play centre where they go til 9pm, so i could then attack the machine without 20 cooks in the kitchen) As at 4.30 pm, its been sitting here for 3 or 4 hours untouched, and I reckon i will start unwrapping it within the next hour or so)
Take a quick self shot of yourself Brett, with the box in the background.
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Congrats to all. I look forward to many photos of all 3 models.
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picked up Thurs morning... now set up and in the line up #*#
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Are u happy with the machine Replay ?
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Are u happy with the machine Replay ?
Stop posting and open the bloody box will ya!
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%.% %.% %.% %.% I am actually waiting for Beaky(Andy) and Leon(V8racefan) to show up cause the guys want to be here for the opening which I said i would wait n share etc.lol
I am off to the gas station cause the bloody camera batteries are dead. New batteries will mean a few photos.lol
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Mines in the car and I'm 20mins away
Peter
Did Leo call or email
I still havent heard anything from him
I got a 3 hour drive,so guess Ill have to wait *)*
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Looks good,all you guys with your NIB,s
I stiil dont know which one !@# looks better
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%.% %.% %.% %.% I am actually waiting for Beaky(Andy) and Leon(V8racefan) to show up cause the guys want to be here for the opening which I said i would wait n share etc.lol
I am off to the gas station cause the bloody camera batteries are dead. New batteries will mean a few photos.lol
Oh..... i must have missed the invite!... My postman is bloody slack!
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Are u happy with the machine Replay ?
yeah mate, very. After such a long wait, all the chat, the pictures, the videos, its kind of surreal
it is actually here and now set up for play.
The lights are blinding, the sub pumps hard, and it nearly shakes across the floor.
The beer and bourbon swilling test team are on their way :D so its going to be a good night
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Sounds like a great evening
Interested to hear about the game play
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Quick Video guys I'll upload later
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Quick Video guys I'll upload later
Awesome... the time has come #*#
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Mines in the car and I'm 20mins away
Peter
Did Leo call or email
I still havent heard anything from him
I got a 3 hour drive,so guess Ill have to wait *)*
I chased him he's probably sick of me lol
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look forward to seeing more
can you give me a close up of the button area,Please Peter #*#
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Game-play just with a iPhone unboxing on video tomorrow
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Game-play just with a iPhone unboxing on video tomorrow
Cool Vid, congrats. ^^^
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Nice video
So what numbers did you guys end up with ?
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Good stuff Peter. Enjoy mate!!!!!!!
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A very happy Peter indeed - congrats and thanks for posting your video.
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Nice video
So what numbers did you guys end up with ?
I ended up with #105 Tony I think AMD got the low numbers but that's cool I'm wrapped
Peter
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Caveys gone quiet.... no prizes for guessing he is in ACCA heaven
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Had 3 LE's on the back of my ute today. Delivered one to a mate and will unbox mine tomorrow. We unboxed mates BIB, much better in person,one of the best Stern's I have seen. Pro model is quite basic in comparison, extra dollars well worth spending.
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From a eye candy point of view with the LE models having factory LEDs etc, I will partly agree with you somewhat, the Pro looks basic at first glance, BUT the PRO model has exactly the same directional shots everywhere on the playfield except the lower playfield. From that point of view there will always be 2 x camps or two points of view. One camp will say spend the extra $3300 and go the LE, the other camp will say save the $3300 and buy the PRO . No one is right or wrong, its just personal preference. Both machines/versions are action packed. *Sorry Gav, i didnt expect to have the machine til monday, otherwise u would have been first on the list.lol It was a last second rush to see if anyone could come at very late notice.lol
THANKYOU
I played the PRO tonight alot and want to thank Andy(Beaky) for helping me set up the machine, and also for fitting the Stern shaker motor.
Leon(V8racefan) was also able to pop past a bit later and have a few beers and play some Acca Dacca. Leons going home and will get to set up his own PRO tomorrow morning, so tonight was a prelude to his own unboxing. I will post a few photos tomorrow.
FINDINGS/GAMEPLAY
Nothing has changed since I played the PRO at AMD in Sydney except the game is better with more updates to the gameplay/dot matrix with the software upgrades. Steve Ritchies voice overs are excellent. The game is lightning fast, and i mean FAST. The music/audio is great, alot of fun.
Overall, I am very very happy, and anyone wanting to get the best of both worlds (BNIB machine, and stick to a budget) would be more than happy with the Pro. The game rocks. AND i might add, this game is no pushover, it is challenging, very challenging, you wont get bored of the Pro anytime soon at all. If u want to add LEDs you can, but it doesnt feel like it is a must, but if u wanted the Pro to look like a LE you could add Leds if u really wanted to.
Overall, excellent machine. I know anyone buying any version of the AC/DC machine will be very happy. ^^^
Well done to all the people who waited patiently for their AC/DC machines.
A MASSIVE THANKYOU TO BRUCE FROM AMD for all the excellent service from day 1 of ordering, to the last step of sending the machine wrapped very very well. Great people to deal with. ^^^ ^^^
BUILD QUALITY
my machine number underneath says machine number 393 of 500. So its a late build in the first 500. I expect Stern will sell alot more than 500 of the Pro model. Build quality is perfect, 100 percent perfect and not a spec out of place. Everything wrapped n strapped perfectly, everything works perfectly, build quality is excellent in every way. I am happily relieved !
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Some UN-boxing video from me and Troy(Genie)
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From a eye candy point of view with the LE models having factory LEDs etc, I will partly agree with you somewhat, the Pro looks basic at first glance, BUT the PRO model has exactly the same directional shots everywhere on the playfield except the lower playfield. From that point of view there will always be 2 x camps or two points of view. One camp will say spend the extra $3300 and go the LE, the other camp will say save the $3300 and buy the PRO . No one is right or wrong, its just personal preference. Both machines/versions are action packed. *Sorry Gav, i didnt expect to have the machine til monday, otherwise u would have been first on the list.lol It was a last second rush to see if anyone could come at very late notice.lol
THANKYOU
I played the PRO tonight alot and want to thank Andy(Beaky) for helping me set up the machine, and also for fitting the Stern shaker motor.
Leon(V8racefan) was also able to pop past a bit later and have a few beers and play some Acca Dacca. Leons going home and will get to set up his own PRO tomorrow morning, so tonight was a prelude to his own unboxing. I will post a few photos tomorrow.
FINDINGS/GAMEPLAY
Nothing has changed since I played the PRO at AMD in Sydney except the game is better with more updates to the gameplay/dot matrix with the software upgrades. Steve Ritchies voice overs are excellent. The game is lightning fast, and i mean FAST. The music/audio is great, alot of fun.
Overall, I am very very happy, and anyone wanting to get the best of both worlds (BNIB machine, and stick to a budget) would be more than happy with the Pro. The game rocks. AND i might add, this game is no pushover, it is challenging, very challenging, you wont get bored of the Pro anytime soon at all. If u want to add LEDs you can, but it doesnt feel like it is a must, but if u wanted the Pro to look like a LE you could add Leds if u really wanted to.
Overall, excellent machine. I know anyone buying any version of the AC/DC machine will be very happy. ^^^
Well done to all the people who waited patiently for their AC/DC machines.
A MASSIVE THANKYOU TO BRUCE FROM AMD for all the excellent service from day 1 of ordering, to the last step of sending the machine wrapped very very well. Great people to deal with. ^^^ ^^^
BUILD QUALITY
my machine number underneath says machine number 393 of 500. So its a late build in the first 500. I expect Stern will sell alot more than 500 of the Pro model. Build quality is perfect, 100 percent perfect and not a spec out of place. Everything wrapped n strapped perfectly, everything works perfectly, build quality is excellent in every way. I am happily relieved !
All good mate... only pulling yer pud.. i will be down to have a crack at it though
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Well done Pete.
I can see u are very happy with it, so i am not going to ask if u are happy, more like HOW HUGELY HAPPY with it are you.lol ^^^
(I cheated, I watched the stern video on how to unbox a machine factory style, but i didnt want to cut the box, so i did it basically the same way u guys did.lol) I added the link for the factory way, but its no good if u dont want to cut your box to bits, so I improvised as well)
http://www.sternpinball.comwww.sternpinball.com/Media/Videos/instructional-series/unpacking-your-machine.aspx
Glad to see the videos u guys did. Does your wife like the machine ? Mine says thank god its here, she doesnt have to hear me counting down the days anymore.lol Mine played it and said she didnt like it, she then played another 10 games and wouldnt get off it.lol not bad for a machine she didnt like. I think she has changed her mind. I cant get a game in now. %.%
No probs Gav, anytime mate. ^^^ u r always welcome. ^^^ now for another cold bourban and a few games with the music turned down since the kids are in bed. %.% %.%
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Well done Pete.
I can see u are very happy with it, so i am not going to ask if u are happy, more like HOW HUGELY HAPPY with it are you.lol ^^^
(I cheated, I watched the stern video on how to unbox a machine factory style, but i didnt want to cut the box, so i did it basically the same way u guys did.lol)
Glad to see the videos u guys did. Does your wife like the machine ? Mine says thank god its here, she doesnt have to hear me counting down the days anymore.lol Mine played it and said she didnt like it, she then played another 10 games and wouldnt get off it.lol not bad for a machine she didnt like. I think she has changed her mind. I cant get a game in now. %.%
No probs Gav, anytime mate. ^^^ u r always welcome. ^^^ now for another cold bourban and a few games with the music turned down since the kids are in bed. %.% %.%
Cheers Brett my wife's also happy its here at last lol yeah I kept my box intact to..
Peter
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Just finished a 3 hour session on my No.83 LE BIB!
This game rocks!
Would have to be the best in my collection of 8 HUO Sterns~!
As agreed by my 2 mates who absolutely loved it!
This game looks and plays sensational in the flesh!
Congratulations to Stern and Steve Ritchie !
This pin will be the last to go if I had to sell!!!
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Just finished a 3 hour session on my No.83 LE BIB!
This game rocks!
Would have to be the best in my collection of 8 HUO Sterns~!
As agreed by my 2 mates who absolutely loved it!
This game looks and plays sensational in the flesh!
Congratulations to Stern and Steve Ritchie !
This pin will be the last to go if I had to sell!!!
Congrats Steve.
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Well done Steve ^^^
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Excellent work guys with the videos so far and congrats to everyone who has one set up in their games room or lounge room this morning!
Great to see that Stern have put together a very good machine this time around. Pinball should be the winner.
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Some pictures of Troy and I un boxing this gem,
Peter
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Thanks for the videos and photos Pete looks awesome. Now I might just go out to the shed and sulk !!!
Enjoy it mate a ^^^
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I ve had to delay my un boxing today due to tenants, rental property dramas!! Not happy!
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I ve had to delay my un boxing today due to tenants, rental property dramas!! Not happy!
Invest in pinballs - less headaches better returns!!
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Great photos there GORGAR. Nice games room.
P.S Is that one of those musical VB vending machines in the background ?
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Great photos there GORGAR. Nice games room.
P.S Is that one of those musical VB vending machines in the background ?
Thanks yep it's a VB Vender and it's getting a workout today lol
Peter
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IF ANYONE hears of anyone/somewhere to play a AC/DC LE or PREMIUM anywhere around the Gold Coast or Brisbane kindly let me know please.
I know what the Pro plays like, but would love to play a LE in person. THANKS ^^^
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IF ANYONE hears of anyone/somewhere to play a AC/DC LE or PREMIUM anywhere around the Gold Coast or Brisbane kindly let me know please.
I know what the Pro plays like, but would love to play a LE in person. THANKS ^^^
Hey Brett come over my place for a beer and play mine lol probally abit far hey :)
Peter
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Unboxed mine today. Has anyone else had faults out of the box? Spent 3 hours testing and still got issues ^.^
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Unboxed mine today. Has anyone else had faults out of the box? Spent 3 hours testing and still got issues ^.^
checked all the connectors?
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Sorry to hear u have had a fault Silverball. Hopefully you can sort it quickly. Jump on the other forums and report back if u dont mind if u can find anyone else with a hassle or if u find the problem, it may help someone else down thre track.
BUILD QUALITY
My PRO has had no faults at all. My Pro was absolutely perfect. I was absolutely impressed with the build quality of my machine. Absolutely perfect in every way shape n form. I was amazed at how well the overall package was put together, not a spec of dust, not a fingerprint on the glass, just faultless, very impressed.
Is everyone else as happy as I am, no problems. !@#
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Unboxed mine today. Has anyone else had faults out of the box? Spent 3 hours testing and still got issues ^.^
might help to mention what the faults and or issues are.. and they are under warranty
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Unboxed mine today. Has anyone else had faults out of the box? Spent 3 hours testing and still got issues ^.^
Who does the warranty for these?
I know you have the expertise to troubleshoot it yourself but I would be taking it back if it was me.
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Well done Pete and to all the other new ACDC owners,i hope your all happy with your machines @@*.
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Unboxed mine today. Has anyone else had faults out of the box? Spent 3 hours testing and still got issues ^.^
Who does the warranty for these?
I know you have the expertise to troubleshoot it yourself but I would be taking it back if it was me.
Youre right Andrew,if it was a quick fix,ok. But its not and most of the board has microscopic surface mounted components. I'll call Monday and see what the repair process is.
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I'm happy gave it a good workout yesterday and managed 87 million it's a heap of fun awesome sound and art packaged, man those bumpers get a massive workout and what amazed me they even put Mylar down where the pop bumpers are to avoid wear and considering it has been hard coated. I've never had new ramps before so these are a blast hope they stay clean for a while oh and I replaced the dull balls with newer bling balls I had from Tony.
Dave sorry you've had issue I feel for ya pal.
Peter
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Unboxed mine today. Has anyone else had faults out of the box? Spent 3 hours testing and still got issues ^.^
call cashbox I believe Owen is there Tech now
the boards are covered under the warranty
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I'm happy gave it a good workout yesterday and managed 87 million it's a heap of fun awesome sound and art packaged, man those bumpers get a massive workout and what amazed me they even put Mylar down where the pop bumpers are to avoid wear and considering it has been hard coated. I've never had new ramps before so these are a blast hope they stay clean for a while oh and I replaced the dull balls with newer bling balls I had from Tony.
Dave sorry you've had issue I feel for ya pal.
Peter
Same here kept original balls in coin box and replaced with bling!
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I will hopefully pic mine up tomorrow
Sounds like I will need some bling balls as well
How many balls in the game !@#
Its great hearing how happy people are with this pin
Pitty I couldnt get it today
Anyone know if Leo is around on a Sunday??
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To all those finally geting your LE's
Congratulations, enjoy #*#
Anyone know if Leo is around on a Sunday??
I have picked up from Leo on a Sunday, but I had given him notice
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Heres a get out of jail free card type story for you guys. @.@ @.@
Within only a few minutes of unboxing and setting up my AC/DC Pro, my 2 year old son Hunter, thought it would be a good idea to grab one of dads screw drivers and try n run the sharp screw driver all the way down the side of dads new pinball machine. He wanted to help daddy set up the pinball machine u see, so him grabbing the nearest screw driver and getting into my machine with it was his way of helping.lol
Well, at the last second i saw what he was trying to do, and luckily he rubbed the rubber end of the driver accross the fresh decals and not the sharp end. I was only seconds away from disaster, it would have been a costly stuff up to say the least. I love my son to death, so if he had of farked up the decals badly, I wouldnt have roused on him or smacked him, cause he enthusiastically thought he was helping and he is only 2 years of age.
I have some photos to load today which i will as soon as i get some new batteries for the camera so i can load them onto my computer etc.
Lesson learnt, setting up a BNIB pinny, and leaving tools around for Jnr to grab hold of, will not happen again.lol ^^^
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Now Im PISSED.
Opened my second ACDC LE due to the first one having faults. Wanted to keep this boxed for investment.
Opened it up - NO MANUAL - WTF?
Loose screws in base if cab, lock down fire button not working,balls getting stuck under flame plastic,connectors not connected,broken wire in loom affecting switches, ball beneath bell loose and was mm from scraping playfield. Just spent another 2 hours fixing before I could have a game.
9K well spent - quality control = NONE. These pins were rushed out the door.
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Sorry to hear that Dave.
Hope all this works out for ya straight away.
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Any wives spat the dummy as yet for playing ALL weekend and not doing the household choirs??
C'mon guys, switch the machine off, give her a big kiss and start vacumm the house! Lol
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Heres a video of mine using my phone so quality's not great, also mines got 4 small screw holes on top of backbox is that for a tournament topper? I never got one?
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They dont supply toppers anymore since tron
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Now Im PISSED.
Opened my second ACDC LE due to the first one having faults. Wanted to keep this boxed for investment.
Opened it up - NO MANUAL - WTF?
Loose screws in base if cab, lock down fire button not working,balls getting stuck under flame plastic,connectors not connected,broken wire in loom affecting switches, ball beneath bell loose and was mm from scraping playfield. Just spent another 2 hours fixing before I could have a game.
9K well spent - quality control = NONE. These pins were rushed out the door.
but how was the game play
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Pete,
My PRO headbox has 4 x very very small pre-drilled holes in the top of the headbox which ARE the exact screw positions for the tournament topper IF u want to add one.
Prince,
I had to wash the dishs today for the first time in 14 years, not because I have been playing the AC/DC pinball, but more like because I spent around$6300 (Pro plus shaker motor plus delivery) and the wife would have liked to buy a new car instead of "all these bloody pinball machines all over the bloody house routine". %.% %.% So I washed all the dishs to get in the good books (for 5 minutes anyway) @.@
Silverball,
That is not good about having 2 x machines in a row with issues. The chances of that happening must be 1 million to 1. I dont understand how those machines passed the quality control burn in tests which would normally pick up that stuff instantly. It would be good to hear later what you have found and any feedback would be appreciated by other AC/DC owners.
HAS ANYONE HEARD of anyone else having any issues ? !@#
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Any photos of the Pro model set up yet ??
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Any photos of the Pro model set up yet ??
Just loading the photos now onto my new computer. will load to AP as soon as I can, will happen 2nite for sure, soon.
Also, anyone from AP from Brisy/Gold Coast is always welcome to pop past n play AC/DC if u havent seen/tried one yet , or any of my pinnys while u are here testin Acca Dacca . ^^^
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Dave
Wow really sux what a shocking turn of bad luck. How was your mates one?
I have a question for the PRO/premium/LE owners how is the clear? Normal Stern very thin or thicker?
From the other Sterns I have seen if I bought one even NIB I would strip and clear properly before a ball hits it
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My clearcoat looks fine Marty, pretty thick/well done for sure.
I think they have really stepped up with the AC/DC machines. I have seen alot of Stern NIB before, and this machine is way better everywhere.
Steve Ritchie said this was going to be the best quality Stern title to have ever left the factory, in my case he is very correct.
Everything is immaculate. Beaky(Andrew) and I tried to find fault, and we looked at every single inch of every single part, inside/outside/under/over and we found absolutely nothing, not a speck out of place. I was extremely surprised for a mass produced item. Even the fussiest collector would be impressed. I hope everyone else/other BNIB AC/CD owners feel the same as I do.
I hope everyone gives their feedback, it is vital to AP people to know about this sort of stuff for future purchasing.
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Here's a picture of manual and goodie bag not bad really includes some key thingys-oh and a tip if there stuck together like mine dont try and pull them apart !!!
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Heres a video of mine using my phone so quality's not great, also mines got 4 small screw holes on top of backbox is that for a tournament topper? I never got one?
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AMAZING!!! So pumped to play AC/DC now...1 month to go....
I e-mailed the original unboxing video to my parents yesterday and when I spoke to them they were both shattered "we waited all that time and then we didn't get to see the machine turned on!!!!!" hahahahaha.
Just e-mailed them the new gameplay video. They will be relieved to see the game in action.
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Cheers!
Adam.
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Ha ha cheers Adam I have a video of the 1st time it was turned on i will Upload tonight and post lol it's uncut of me and Troy doing the job shit that sounds bad :)
Peter
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For the couple people who asked, I have thrown a few photos on below.
Nothing special since alot of u guys have seen a AC/DC Pro before. But I did change the custom message which is easy to do. ^^^
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Thanks Brett thats definately made my mind up love that backglass gives me a smile everytime i see it ^^^
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A few more photos. ^^^
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Thanks Brett thats definately made my mind up love that backglass gives me a smile everytime i see it ^^^
Anyone who buys the PRO should be really happy. Its a cracker of a game. Playing it with the music raging is a blast. The game is just so dam FAST !Of all the backglasses/translites etc, the PRO translite matchs the playfield best i reckon with the LTBRock a very very close second. The BIB LE glass suits that machine perfectly because of the blue ofcourse. I have to see a Premium in the flesh as well.
I also love the fact that on the PRO u can see every inch of the playfield when u are playing it. Nothing is hidden at all. The colours are just excellent. Definately the best value for money STERN of all time at $5950 and add $210 for a self fit shaker motor. Lots of FUN. Worth every cent.
IF ANYONE IS ON THE FENCE and thinking about a AC/DC machine, I say go for it. The $5950 price cant last 4 ever !
BARGAIN BARGAIN BARGAIN BARGAIN ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
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Thanks Brett thats definately made my mind up love that backglass gives me a smile everytime i see it ^^^
Anyone who buys the PRO should be really happy. Its a cracker of a game. Playing it with the music raging is a blast. The game is just so dam FAST !
Of all the backglasses/translites etc, the PRO translite matchs the playfield best i reckon with the LTBRock a very very close second. The BIB LE glass suits that machine perfectly because of the blue ofcourse. I have to see a Premium in the flesh as well.
I also love the fact u can see every inch of the playfield when u are playing it. Nothing is hidden at all. The colours are just excellent.
Definately the best value for money STERN of all time at $5950 and add $210 for a self fit shaker motor. Lots of FUN. Worth every cent.
IF ANYONE IS ON THE FENCE and thinking about a AC/DC machine, I say go for it. The $5950 price cant last 4 ever !
BARGAIN BARGAIN BARGAIN BARGAIN ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
Your right Brett it's a bargain for a top pinball the pics look great.
Peter
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Just had the bell opto switch 47 shit itself, ckecked plugs ok any idea?
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Thanks Brett for taking the time to upload your pics.
Pro looks great. Love the red dmd.
You sure you clicked the letter V on the message display - looks more U..
Also, with all the ACDC translights, are they screen printed on the glass??
Looking at you photo Brett, looks like a paper ripple effect - probably bad reflection, am I right?
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Great pics cavey. Very tempting at that price. What did AMD charge for freight ?
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Just had the bell opto switch 47 shit itself, ckecked plugs ok any idea?
Possible bad solder joint - do you know how to solder? Resolder the legs of the opto switch, otherwise ring the warranty hotline.
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Nice one Cavey
Enjoy #*# :lol
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$.$, BIBLE #056 reporting to Aussie Pinball. All OK and heaps of fun - my 6, 9 and 14 year old daughters (as well as wife) took to the machine like ducks to water. I think we have a new generation of pinball players in the making and the AC/DC machine has given the whole pinball industry a breath of life.
My BIBLE (picked up from AMD last Friday) has gone through about 100 games and everything is faultless. There are two minor scratches (from factory) to the right of the right speaker which I will leave as is because this is the way #056 came (warts and all).
First impressions: Fast, challenging, great sound and brilliant lighting. Outer drains can catch you without the right nudges; watch the bell shot as the wrong one can drain down the guts.
Main concerns at the moment: the 3 thumpers (particularly the left one) get a massive workout and they are fast - need to watch for future wear in the upper playfield area. Ball sometimes sticks in the gap between the ramp an cannon. A fast shot for the hells bell gets a quick spinning rebound where the ball in play slams the glass. Getting a game as the kids love it so much.
April 2012 - definitely a month to remember!
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Prince,
YES, I will change the U to a V on the CAVEYS ACDC PRO custom message.lol @.@ @.@ @.@ @.@
Also its a ripple effect in the pictures/dot matrix etc because of low light and a basic Kodak camera I have had for 4 years, but it fits in ya pocket.
The Translite is exactly that, a plastic translite and not a backglass. I reckon translites hold up better over alot of years and are easily replaceable.
I would hate to have a LE or Premium and crack the glass etc, then approach Stern for a replacement which might be a impossibility ??
Rottyguy,
Delivery from AMD in Sydney was $200 only, door to door insured from memory. Stern box comes extra wrapped in clear plastic to safeguard machine from rain and is strapped to a wooden pallet. Faultless delivery. Shaker motor was $210 and placed inside of Pro box.
Freihher,
Well done matey on a great purchase. The fact u love the machine and your family does as well is just excellent to hear. Well done and thankyou for the pictures.
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$.$, BIBLE #056 reporting to Aussie Pinball. All OK and heaps of fun - my 6, 9 and 14 year old daughters (as well as wife) took to the machine like ducks to water. I think we have a new generation of pinball players in the making and the AC/DC machine has given the whole pinball industry a breath of life.
My BIBLE (picked up from AMD last Friday) has gone through about 100 games and everything is faultless. There are two minor scratches (from factory) to the right of the right speaker which I will leave as is because this is the way #056 came (warts and all).
First impressions: Fast, challenging, great sound and brilliant lighting. Outer drains can catch you without the right nudges; watch the bell shot as the wrong one can drain down the guts.
Main concerns at the moment: the 3 thumpers (particularly the left one) get a massive workout and they are fast - need to watch for future wear in the upper playfield area. Ball sometimes sticks in the gap between the ramp an cannon. A fast shot for the hells bell gets a quick spinning rebound where the ball in play slams the glass. Getting a game as the kids love it so much.
April 2012 - definitely a month to remember!
Cool post now where's the 2nd scratch lol
Peter
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April 2012 - definitely a month to remember!
Your not wrong there.
Congrats on your purchase and welcome to AP.
Not a fan of the BIB backglass/translight guys - just reminds me of Austin Powers himself.....must be the blue suit that comes to my mind.
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I definately changed adjustment 79 on the Pro from Low to High.lol %.%
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Peter,
The second scratch (minor) is a few centimetres above the bigger scratch. Follow the bottom of the backglass and the small scratch is in line with the metal trim. I am happy with the rest of the machine and have checked everything - faultless.
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Cavey, setting #79 to high is a good strategy. You, being a good player will have nothing to worry about but any opponents not familiar with the machine will cop Steve's devilish insults.
As an aside, I ran a power meter to see what sort of power the LEs use as I was worried of running up a pricey bill with the carbon tax looming around the corner. Nothing to worry about as my BIB uses 80W - 250W during play; better than watching TV or using the dishwasher; more fun too!
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Here we are turning the game on for the first time lol-appoligises for the bad acting :lol
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It looks amazing,all those lights
Bet your a happy man,Peter
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HOW TO CHECK YOUR ACDC GAME CODE IS CURRENT
(Pro only as there are no current upgrades for LE at this point, but check in the following weeks by doing the below steps)
My Pro machine has version 1.25 on it, but Stern has done a revision since sending out our machines (Pro) and its now up to version 1.4.
STEP 1.
To check your game code is current, when u turn on your machine, you will see the software version in the right corner of the dot matrix when the machine first powers up. Watch closely cause it comes and goes quickly.
STEP 2.
Go to the Stern website, and go to www.sternpinball.com , then go to the drop menu for Service/Support, then click on game codes library. then scroll down left side of page and you will see AC/DC Pinball and click on that.
Step 3.
A small square box will appear with the various models of the AC/DC machines, click on your AC/DC Pro, then when the next box appears, click save. After it loads, then save it to a USB stick, then go to your AC/DC game manual, then follow the steps in the front of the book which talks about updating game software/code etc. Very straight forward ! ^^^
CUSTOM MESSAGE INFO.
Also, when u do a custom message, (like Johns Pinball or Pete's AC/DC etc) The custom message ONLY appears by pressing and holding in your Left Flipper Button on the AC/DC model. (It doesnt appear randomly like it does on alot of Sega/Data East/Williams pins etc).
ATTRACT MODE - NOT EXISTANT - AUDIO
Also, there is No music or no Audio Attract mode on the AC/DC pinball, at this stage.
It might happen on future game code/software upgrades. That the advice i have recieved from AMD. Its funny/unusual cause ALL my other DMD machines have a music/audio attract mode, but it doesnt happen on this title yet !
CODE UPGRADED THIS ARVO EASILY.
I finalised my 1.4 version game code upgrade using a USB plug in and can notice some differences. The upload took around 15/20 minutes for it to fully upload. Differences in dotmatrix displays.scoring and audio noises. Worth upgrading from version 1.25 to 1.4. ^^^
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Can anyone tell me what it says on the LTBR side armour?
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Cheesed off cant play acdc till this bell opto is replaced or repaired - it was tested and found a faulty transitor on the board- Not happy jane
I guess I wont add another 100 -150 games by the time its back!
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Can my day get any worse My son rings me at work and asks if he can play my AC/DC and then he smashes my highest score little bugger mines 89 million and he sends me a photo with his name and grand champion score of 131 million not happy, he said the machine went off lol
Peter
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Can my day get any worse My son rings me at work and asks if he can play my AC/DC and then he smashes my highest score little bugger mines 89 million and he sends me a photo with his name and grand champion score of 131 million not happy, he said the machine went off lol
Peter
lol.
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1pm tomorrow $#$
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Can my day get any worse My son rings me at work and asks if he can play my AC/DC and then he smashes my highest score little bugger mines 89 million and he sends me a photo with his name and grand champion score of 131 million not happy, he said the machine went off lol
Peter
3 ball or 5 ?
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Also forgot to mention that the LE I played today also had faults out of the box most of the playfield inserts didn't work. There are two plugs on the back of the jukebox (very hard to see) had come loose causing almost all inserts to stop working except the arrows.
So if anyone has These symptoms check the plugs on the back of the jukebox
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Can my day get any worse My son rings me at work and asks if he can play my AC/DC and then he smashes my highest score little bugger mines 89 million and he sends me a photo with his name and grand champion score of 131 million not happy, he said the machine went off lol
Peter
3 ball or 5 ?
3 balls :(
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Hi all, congrats to all who have there ACDC, i am hopefully getting one in the next few days.
3 Questions for a non Pinball expert. What does the Shaker motor do?? and how easy are they to fit?? ( any photos )
And lastly, why change the balls , and what do you clasify as "Bling Balls"??
Any help wold be good before i order my Premium
Thanks everybody
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Hi all, congrats to all who have there ACDC, i am hopefully getting one in the next few days.
3 Questions for a non Pinball expert. What does the Shaker motor do?? and how easy are they to fit?? ( any photos )
And lastly, why change the balls , and what do you clasify as "Bling Balls"??
Any help wold be good before i order my Premium
Thanks everybody
Welcome to AP.
Shaker motor provides an extra feeling when activated - ie the machine will shake whilst the ball hits the pop bumpers.
Bling is a brand that makes balls.
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Hi all, congrats to all who have there ACDC, i am hopefully getting one in the next few days.
3 Questions for a non Pinball expert. What does the Shaker motor do?? and how easy are they to fit?? ( any photos )
And lastly, why change the balls , and what do you clasify as "Bling Balls"??
Any help wold be good before i order my Premium
Thanks everybody
Welcome to Aussie pinball. I too will be fitting a shaker motor eventually what it does is shakes the entire machine at certain times of the game.
As or the bling balls the standard balls are just standard Pinballs bling balls are mirror finish and look
Awsome
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1. my std stern balls were shiny as hell. I used them, they are fine/perfect.
2. shaker motor takes 15 mins to fit. follow instructions, v easy.
3. shaker motor adds alot. worth every cent of the $220.
well done Daniel(DDstoys) ^^^
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Brett my custom messege appears like the Williams/Bally games?
Peter
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Brett my custom messege appears like the Williams/Bally games?
Peter
Could be a Pro/LE difference.
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Can my day get any worse My son rings me at work and asks if he can play my AC/DC and then he smashes my highest score little bugger mines 89 million and he sends me a photo with his name and grand champion score of 131 million not happy, he said the machine went off lol
Peter
3 ball or 5 ?
3 balls :(
Little bugger,lol, sounds like a pinball champ in the making
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Brett my custom messege appears like the Williams/Bally games?
Peter
I even spoke to AMD and they agreed the software only allows the custom message to appear after touching the left flipper button(holding it in).
Which I found very very unusual compared to all my other DMD games, but AMD were correct, it does not appear again at all unless you press the left flipper button then hold it in.
I have since done the gamecode upgrade from version 1.25 to 1.4. I will see if its made a difference, but it certainly did not appear at all with V1.25.
Does your custom message Pete appear randomly without you touching the flipper buttons for 5/10 minutes etc ? !@#
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Brett my custom messege appears like the Williams/Bally games?
Peter
I even spoke to AMD and they agreed the software only allows the custom message to appear after touching the left flipper button(holding it in).
Which I found very very unusual compared to all my other DMD games, but AMD were correct, it does not appear again at all unless you press the left flipper button then hold it in.
I have since done the gamecode upgrade from version 1.25 to 1.4. I will see if its made a difference, but it certainly did not appear at all with V1.25.
Does your custom message Pete appear randomly without you touching the flipper buttons for 5/10 minutes etc ? !@#
Yes Brett just like my Wh20 I have software V 1.32 so maybe that's why? I got an email from Steve Richie saying keep watching updates as lyman will be working on this game for a long time to come and has alot more to add ^^^
Peter
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Just about to leave work early to go get my game $#$
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Just about to leave work early to go get my game $#$
Congrats pics pls
Peter
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Pete, even with version 1.4, it doesnt show the custom message unless u press left flipper button. Will send off a email to Stern and see if they can add that to next gamecode upgrade, and will ADD a request for a attract mode adding music/audio for a 10 second burst on the attract mode, if they can make/invent a attract mode for the AC/DC models.
Pete, a question, > if you hold your left flipper button in after a few left flipper press's, does your custom message appear that way as well ? !@#
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Loaded up and on the way home now
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Loaded up and on the way home now
awesome, the fun is only beginning !*!
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Dont forget Daniel
VIDEOS N PHOTOS VIDEOS N PHOTOS
VIDEOS N PHOTOS VIDEOS N PHOTOS
VIDEOS N PHOTOS VIDEOS N PHOTOS
VIDEOS N PHOTOS VIDEOS N PHOTOS
^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
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Pete, even with version 1.4, it doesnt show the custom message unless u press left flipper button. Will send off a email to Stern and see if they can add that to next gamecode upgrade, and will ADD a request for a attract mode adding music/audio for a 10 second burst on the attract mode, if they can make/invent a attract mode for the AC/DC models.
Pete, a question, > if you hold your left flipper button in after a few left flipper press's, does your custom message appear that way as well ? !@#
Brett if i hold the left flipper button in the screen goes to "competition mode" and counts down from five waiting for me to press the start button.
Peter
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Can anyone tell me what it says on the LTBR side armour?
It says "Design by Ritchie/Sheats" on the side of the backbox hinges.
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Pete, even with version 1.4, it doesnt show the custom message unless u press left flipper button. Will send off a email to Stern and see if they can add that to next gamecode upgrade, and will ADD a request for a attract mode adding music/audio for a 10 second burst on the attract mode, if they can make/invent a attract mode for the AC/DC models.
Pete, a question, > if you hold your left flipper button in after a few left flipper press's, does your custom message appear that way as well ? !@#
Brett if i hold the left flipper button in the screen goes to "competition mode" and counts down from five waiting for me to press the start button.
Peter
does the custom message come up that way as well after the competition countdown stuff finishs counting down ?
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Pete, even with version 1.4, it doesnt show the custom message unless u press left flipper button. Will send off a email to Stern and see if they can add that to next gamecode upgrade, and will ADD a request for a attract mode adding music/audio for a 10 second burst on the attract mode, if they can make/invent a attract mode for the AC/DC models.
Pete, a question, > if you hold your left flipper button in after a few left flipper press's, does your custom message appear that way as well ? !@#
Brett if i hold the left flipper button in the screen goes to "competition mode" and counts down from five waiting for me to press the start button.
Peter
does the custom message come up that way as well after the competition countdown stuff finishs counting down ?
No Brett no custom message only comp mode countdown-also there's no led's under apron apart from one each side of apron facing the out-lanes I've attached an iPhone vid so quality's crap sorry
Peter
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well i made it only just squeeze through the door %.%
Big thanks to Mark C and Damien for arranging it and big thanks to Leo at cashbox for bringing these babies in to OZ
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congrats,dan.so that one is staying in the house,hey?
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well i made it only just squeeze through the door %.%
Big thanks to Mark C and Damien for arranging it and big thanks to Leo at cashbox for bringing these babies in to OZ
sweet, enjoy your game
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congrats,dan.so that one is staying in the house,hey?
Nah mate just in the house coz there's no room in the shed once I tidy the shed it will be moved into the line up and become a work bench in no time flat.
Can't believe I got an ok to buy it in the first place but the wife said I can even set it up in the lounge till there's room in the shed !@#
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sweet. ^^^ ^^^
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I would be leaving it in the house forever, mostly dust free, and u need to show it off to everyone who comes over, then take them out to the shed.
Every wife in Australia needs at LEAST one pinball machine inside the house to keep them happy as well. ^^^
Cant wait for more photos of your PREMIUM. $#$
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Congrats Daniel.
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I would be leaving it in the house forever, mostly dust free, and u need to show it off to everyone who comes over, then take them out to the shed.
Every wife in Australia needs at LEAST one pinball machine inside the house to keep them happy as well. ^^^
Cant wait for more photos of your PREMIUM. $#$
Ha ha my wife already has Elektra
As for showing it off most visitors knock on the shed door first %.%
As for dust won't see that once its covered in tools and parts @.@
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Well done Daniel good work now open it lol
Peter
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I learnt something today about my new Pro. It has auto ball shooter if u do 2 x bad shooter rod pulls in a row.
I am assuming all new sterns have that feature. Am i correct about other stern titles, other than acdc etc having the auto ball shoot. !@#
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you can set my high roller casino to eject on right flipper push
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well i made it only just squeeze through the door %.%
Big thanks to Mark C and Damien for arranging it and big thanks to Leo at cashbox for bringing these babies in to OZ
Nice work mate, look forward to a few games one day &&
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not happy - requested a new playfield
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Damn, how did that happen? Stern factory quality CC ?? @.@
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What am I looking at Steve??
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where exactly is that nail hole ? can u take a photo from further back to show where that is ? looks like a extra nail hole from the press machine.
can u put a drop of superglue in it or a tiny drop of resin to cover it permanently ? is it really worth a complete playfield swap out, its a big job and would the stern rep go for it/a new playfield because of that ? is it really noticeable ? are u happy with everything else ? !@#
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if it was my 9.5 g i would send it back
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Cant believe i didnt see this, was so excited with gameplay I overlooked it
So far no luck - faulty bell opto and now I noticed this tonight - so pissed off!
sent email to Leo at cashbox and informed him i want a new playfield otherwise no more NIB!
Lets hope Amd decides to sent out a replacement - I can live with it knowing I have new playfield
I wont replace playfield just want a spare
It looks like something was dropped there and then they tried to polish out further adding scratches and resulting in a patch with no glossy clear
Also there is a small chip to the bottom right
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dont get me wrong, but it doesnt make sense having them give u a new playfield unless u use it/swap it out and give them back the faulty one, if they give u one. !@#
but focusing on gameplay, it looks like a friggin great game the LE. take some photos of the machine set up if u can ^^^ ^^^
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Is it like a small crator in the clear?
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Its about 3mm crater - slr camera with right lighting makes it look worse than it is but yes I wanted it to be perfect especially the playfield
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if i bought a new car with a dent in it i would not pay full price.$milk them$
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Just blown up the pic and can see the swivel/scratch marks.
Bummer Steve. I think a new playfield in lieu of a damage allowance sounds fair?...
Hate to do the swap over if I was Cashbox - would rather replace the whole pin instead.
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what model,serial no.?
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I would prefer a swapover of a populated playfield rather than have to take everything off and on.
If they cant do a straight swap with another populated playfield then a replacement unpopulated playfield would suffice
LE BIB ACDC
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Its about 3mm crater - slr camera with right lighting makes it look worse than it is but yes I wanted it to be perfect especially the playfield
It would most likey be solvent pop, where the clear was either too thick in the coat or had not flashed before the second coat. Depending on size can be rubbed out but still needs final cut and polish.
Yours could be repaired but would need to be fully stripped and sanded / re-cleared.
Should not have passed QC. Not minor and should be replaced
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so stern don\t sell seconds when it comes to playfields.they just send them out. :tumble:
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here are a few photos of the opening first two are what your greeted with when you open the box. the foam corners were thrown into a heap along with the instructions on how to unpack it.
After that you just rip into it @@*
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that red lock down looks sweeeeet &^&
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I would prefer a swapover of a populated playfield rather than have to take everything off and on.
If they cant do a straight swap with another populated playfield then a replacement unpopulated playfield would suffice
LE BIB ACDC
Totally agree with you, what a bummer. Enough to turn people off buying NIB sight unseen.
They should do it just for there reputation.
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Then for safety reason you get someone else to hold the game up and someone else to bolt on the legs while you drink scotch and wait for a game. Almost forgot the main tip do not clean up any of the mess just kick it around give the wife something to really complain about &&
FATHER OF THE YEAR I let heath have the first game
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Priceless Daniel.
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Played a few games only fault i can find on mine is the cannon sits a little low and the ball gets stuck under it and if its slow down the ramp gets stuck between the canon and the ramp. No big deal for me but what ive seen and heard about the LE are not real good.
Found a place for my drink and who says i cant do two things at once
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mite aswell just spray it with fcuk perfume.
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Nice one Daniel!!
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mite aswell just spray it with fcuk perfume.
WTF %.% Are you having a few coldies mate **) $&&
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yes.anticipating thursday.or fri.bloody tnt.sux
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so stern don\t sell seconds when it comes to playfields.they just send them out. :tumble:
This is appauling on the part of STERN and is what i suspected would happen but hoped wouldnt.
I know 1 playfield repro maker quite well... he has just done a run of a 50's woodrail PF.. artwork was just stunning and it took 3 years to redraw it all for screening. result was a limited run of PF's.
Then the crunch comes...... " we no longer have enough playfields to cover all interest as for some reason the clear has reacted with some of the purple inserts... its not easily noticeable, but we are unable to sell almost 50% of the production unless you are willing to purchase what we would consider a second.. price would be lower obviously".
That is someone who takes great pride in what they do...
STERN just have no care over quality control.. there is NO reason whatsoever that any new machine should have any faults... should all be done before it leaves the factory. Unfortunately, they have always been the same
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I hear ya Gav, but they employ something that never ever gets it right 100 percent of the time, HUMANS ! lol
if u saw my PRO, u would see what happens when they do get it VERY right. Hoping after another 50 people open their BNIB machines, the ratio of happy to unhappy stays very healthy etc for Stern and its dealers.
Well done Daniel, man you have made me now want to buy a PREMIUM 4 sure to stick next to the Pro. It looks bloody great. I know your family and young fella will love the new machine 4 a very long time. Congrats. ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
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Hi Guys,
We had a similar problem with a faulty playfield in 2004 with an Elvis Gold. Stern sent a fully populated playfield over as a replacement and the old playfield had to be sent back at Sterns cost. It was just a matterof unplugging the old wiring loom and plugging in the new one. Be sure to get your machine running 100% before you give them the old playfield back. I dont think you will have an issue with this. My advice is to notify Leo firstly with photos and also send a copy of the email to Bruce. He will want to see the pictures and will act promptly with Gary Stern. As mentioned before, it is human made and sometimes things fall through the cracks. May also have been done during the clear coat process and not reacted straight away.
All will be sorted, I am quite sure of this!
Regards Joe
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I bet any sited AC/DC's will go off in a pub today, 2up etc - Have a good anzac day everyone. ^^^
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I remember watching the premium being played in a pinball comp but I can't find it pls help with link
Thanks Peter
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http://vimeo.com/40321422
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I remember watching the premium being played in a pinball comp but I can't find it pls help with link
Thanks Peter
OR go to www.acdcpinball.com ^^^
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I remember watching the premium being played in a pinball comp but I can't find it pls help with link
Thanks Peter
OR go to www.acdcpinball.com ^^^
Great website, cheers
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I GIVE UP.
what a piece of crap. After not being able to play 1 of my LE's, and the second LE having several faults that were not transport related, the cannon motor/gearbox has shit itself. I cant complain, I did manage to get in about 15 games before it crapped itself.
2 BNIB ACDC's, both unplayable. Good job Stern. First and last NIB I buy from you.
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I GIVE UP.
what a piece of crap. After not being able to play 1 of my LE's, and the second LE having several faults that were not transport related, the cannon motor/gearbox has shit itself. I cant complain, I did manage to get in about 15 games before it crapped itself.
2 BNIB ACDC's, both unplayable. Good job Stern. First and last NIB I buy from you.
YOU POOR BASTARD THAT'S SHITHOUSE
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I GIVE UP.
what a piece of crap. After not being able to play 1 of my LE's, and the second LE having several faults that were not transport related, the cannon motor/gearbox has shit itself. I cant complain, I did manage to get in about 15 games before it crapped itself.
2 BNIB ACDC's, both unplayable. Good job Stern. First and last NIB I buy from you.
Certainly dents the confidence. Let us know if the after-sales service is up to scratch.
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Silverball,
Can u list individually and specifically what problems u are having, and take some photos of the issues and add to the forum ?
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I fixed one of my problems with the ball getting stuck under the cannon had to trim a couple of mm off the cable clamp. As for the ball getting stuck between the ramp and the cannon I can't find any adjustment to help. Hopefully it just wears itself in
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Here is a quick video I took last night while my brother played
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Cheers guys I got it
Peter
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Here is a quick video I took last night while my brother played
Cool video Daniel thanks for posting, mate does yours have LEDs on the apron facing the outlane plastics? If so when do they come on?
Cheers Peter
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Yes it does have the LEDs under the apron they o on during flash lamp test lol. Same as the lightning bolts can't see them come on during the game as well?
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Yes it does have the LEDs under the apron they o on during flash lamp test lol. Same as the lightning bolts can't see them come on during the game as well?
Same here lol
Peter
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curious
did these LE's come with numbered plaques?
Could somebody take a pic for us lesser mortals?
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curious
did these LE's come with numbered plaques?
Could somebody take a pic for us lesser mortals?
Gorgars Pic
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Daniel, you are supposed to keep the box and the packaging intact for when you sell the game #@#
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I'm up to 129 games now
Average game time:3:29
Average ball time:1:03
Sometimes it kicks my butt actually most times it's a hard fast game
Peter
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I GIVE UP.
what a piece of crap. After not being able to play 1 of my LE's, and the second LE having several faults that were not transport related, the cannon motor/gearbox has shit itself. I cant complain, I did manage to get in about 15 games before it crapped itself.
2 BNIB ACDC's, both unplayable. Good job Stern. First and last NIB I buy from you.
Thats more than bad luck,it is a disgrace that these machines were ever sent out.As more people get their machines worldwide i wonder how many will end up with similiar problems to what some are having in aus.There is no sugar coating some of the issues people are having and it is not only on this forum.STERNS QUALITY CONTROL IS BULL***T and the human error line is also.These machines were rushed out after the change to the bottom playfield caused some delays,so then it was lets just get them out as quick as we can.All the way along the production line there has to be checks on everything as they move along,so no doubt Stern do not do this or do not care.After months i am still waiting for a reply from Stern in regards to some questions i had about the LEs and advised them that i had cancelled my Rock version.I mentioned in that email why do Stern treat there customers like idiots.I am so glad i pulled out of this machine and for my money the LEs are not worth the extra cash over the PRO.I am now very wary about a possible new Stern purchase as poor quality issues ARE telling me to not rush in.
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I GIVE UP.
what a piece of crap. After not being able to play 1 of my LE's, and the second LE having several faults that were not transport related, the cannon motor/gearbox has shit itself. I cant complain, I did manage to get in about 15 games before it crapped itself.
2 BNIB ACDC's, both unplayable. Good job Stern. First and last NIB I buy from you.
Thats more than bad luck,it is a disgrace that these machines were ever sent out.As more people get their machines worldwide i wonder how many will end up with similiar problems to what some are having in aus.There is no sugar coating some of the issues people are having and it is not only on this forum.STERNS QUALITY CONTROL IS BULL***T and the human error line is also.These machines were rushed out after the change to the bottom playfield caused some delays,so then it was lets just get them out as quick as we can.All the way along the production line there has to be checks on everything as they move along,so no doubt Stern do not do this or do not care.After months i am still waiting for a reply from Stern in regards to some questions i had about the LEs and advised them that i had cancelled my Rock version.I mentioned in that email why do Stern treat there customers like idiots.I am so glad i pulled out of this machine and for my money the LEs are not worth the extra cash over the PRO.I am now very wary about a possible new Stern purchase as poor quality issues ARE telling me to not rush in.
I just don't remember other recent sterns having these issues am I wrong? Or is it just this title or pinball in general?
Peter
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I GIVE UP.
what a piece of crap. After not being able to play 1 of my LE's, and the second LE having several faults that were not transport related, the cannon motor/gearbox has shit itself. I cant complain, I did manage to get in about 15 games before it crapped itself.
2 BNIB ACDC's, both unplayable. Good job Stern. First and last NIB I buy from you.
Thats more than bad luck,it is a disgrace that these machines were ever sent out.As more people get their machines worldwide i wonder how many will end up with similiar problems to what some are having in aus.There is no sugar coating some of the issues people are having and it is not only on this forum.STERNS QUALITY CONTROL IS BULL***T and the human error line is also.These machines were rushed out after the change to the bottom playfield caused some delays,so then it was lets just get them out as quick as we can.All the way along the production line there has to be checks on everything as they move along,so no doubt Stern do not do this or do not care.After months i am still waiting for a reply from Stern in regards to some questions i had about the LEs and advised them that i had cancelled my Rock version.I mentioned in that email why do Stern treat there customers like idiots.I am so glad i pulled out of this machine and for my money the LEs are not worth the extra cash over the PRO.I am now very wary about a possible new Stern purchase as poor quality issues ARE telling me to not rush in.
I just don't remember other recent sterns having these issues am I wrong? Or is it just this title or pinball in general?
Peter
My NIB Ironman was fine but that was quite a few years ago when it was made.
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I have clocked up 600 balls on my BIB and have no problems or issues to report. The concerns raised by others on this forum has made me check over my machine in great detail and can say it is faultless in every detail (so far).
Sorry for the others with quality issues.
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I just don't remember other recent sterns having these issues am I wrong? Or is it just this title or pinball in general?
Peter
Unfortunatly, stern has poor quality control
Remember, Gary Stern makes his product for operators, most of them do not worry about cosmetic issues, or can rectify mechanical/electrical faults easily
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/TalesFromTheOutlane/doubleprint.jpg)
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Seems some are lucky.. others have had downright rotten luck.
Luck shouldnt come into it of course and i can imagine the disappointment felt by those whose expectations have been so high for so long.
ACDC SHOULD be the pin that puts Stern and pinball right in the main frame.. its a real pity that Stern failed to live up to the hype with what is poor quality on their part.
hope it all gets sorted as a matter of priority
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I just don't remember other recent sterns having these issues am I wrong? Or is it just this title or pinball in general?
Peter
Unfortunatly, stern has poor quality control
Remember, Gary Stern makes his product for operators, most of them do not worry about cosmetic issues, or can rectify mechanical/electrical faults easily
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/TalesFromTheOutlane/doubleprint.jpg)
Thats not poor quality control... its a drop shadow on the font... everyone else has this missing... count yourself lucky!
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I have played a good 100 games on my PRO and havent had a single issue at all.
I spoke with AMD yesterday, and they are not aware of any serious issues with ANY LE models,except a few Leds not working, or a few loose LEDS that have come loose from transport. As of yesterday afternoon, according to AMD, no one had phoned AMD at all with any serious issues. It is early days and too early to believe there is any huge problem with the AC/DC machines as a whole. The next 1 x month will show what the real situation is. I have spoken to 4 different LE owners in QLD, and not one of those 4 LE owners have had a hassle at all.
ALSO, i note that AMD offers everyone of its BNIB buyers, a free offer to pull the machine out of the box, inspect it 100 percent, test everything etc, as part of the purchase etc, at no charge. This service overcomes all hassles usually, but most people say NO, and want to be the first person to pull the machine out themselves, and not have the machine put back into the new box.
Its hard to crucify AMD when this is on offer to anyone who buys from AMD.
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I have played a good 100 games on my PRO and havent had a single issue at all.
I spoke with AMD yesterday, and they are not aware of any serious issues with ANY LE models,except a few Leds not working, or a few loose LEDS that have come loose from transport. As of yesterday afternoon, according to AMD, no one had phoned AMD at all with any serious issues.
It is early days and too early to believe there is any huge problem with the AC/DC machines as a whole. The next 1 x month will show what the real situation is. I have spoken to 4 different LE owners in QLD, and not one of those 4 LE owners have had a hassle at all.
Melbourne issues would be raised to the Melbourne dealer wouldn't they? and he would deal direct with stern I'd imagine? has anyone read about problems overseas as Australia's where built and sent out first.
Peter
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All Stern agents in Australia buy directly from Bruce at AMD, and all warranty issues go directly to AMD from all Stern agents. I was told this by AMD directly yesterday.
AMD is the representative for STERN in Australia.
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All Stern agents in Australia buy directly from Bruce at AMD, and all warranty issues go directly to AMD from all Stern agents. I was told this by AMD directly yesterday.
AMD is the representative for STERN in Australia.
This is correct. As agents we try to rectify any problems in house. If it is a major issue, we have to refer this to AMD(Bruce) who in turn acts on it with Stern (Gary). I have never had any major issues to date(touch wood). I have however kept 2 Bib and 2 Ltbr machines myself in the event that I am not happy with any machine in my container. If it happens that a machine is problematic and doesnt meet up to my standards, then I will sacrafice my own personal machine for my customers. I cant do any more than that. Other dealers probably would of thought along the same lines but due to the demand and pressure from customers were not able to do this. Will wait and see what happens in the coming weeks when they arrive. I feel for silverball and I am sure Leo will sort it out. Furthermore, should these machines not be required as replacement machines, they are not for sale as will be kept for my kids.
Regards Joe
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For those wanting to test a Premium or LE - so far 4 known ones have been sited.
AC/DC Premium / LE's
NSW - Newcastle Area > Broadmeadow > Pizza N Pinball - AC/DC BIBLE (Stern). 24-4-12
NSW - Newcastle Area > Hamilton > Station Hotel - AC/DC Premium (Stern). 25-4-12
Vic - Melbourne Area > Chirnside Park > Sonix Family Entertainment, Fletcher Rd. - AC/DC BIBLE (Stern). 22-4-12
Vic - Melbourne Area > Wantirna South > Knox City > Timezone - AC/DC BIBLE (Stern). 22/04/2011
along with 12 Pro's sited across 4 states.
Please let me know in the sited section if you know of any others
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All Stern agents in Australia buy directly from Bruce at AMD, and all warranty issues go directly to AMD from all Stern agents. I was told this by AMD directly yesterday.
AMD is the representative for STERN in Australia.
Cheers Brett I wasn't aware of that
Peter
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Damn, so sorry to hear some people have had such dramas with thier new pinball. I really hope Stern pick thier act up if and when they do Avengers.
Looks like they have been caught with thier pants pulled down on the this title and the rush job on the LE models. I am certainly gun-shy of buying off them again after hearing some of the horror stories.
I hope it is limited to the hype surrounding this title and the rush job that stern did to get them out.
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I have been having so much FUN playing the new PRO machine.
Changing the insult level to high in the menu settings is a blast, hearing all the Steve Ritchie comments is fun. The software upgrade from 1.25 to version 1.4 was definately worthwhile. I read on the STERN site that there are around 70 additions with the upgraded software. Audio game noises is one of the biggest things you notice.
I have found the best volume level to crank the music up to is 35 or 40. Thats nice n very loud to hear the music really really well, but makes it easier to hear all the cool other audio noises for the game noises. I am looking at changing all the bulbs to LEDS probably today, might take a before and after set of photos. It doesnt really need it, but I have LEDS so i might just do it.
!@# HOW HAVE you LE owners found the colour changing LEDS and the LEDS in general ?...
....not too bright, doesnt interfere with seeing the ball easily ? !@# When do the colour changing leds come off n on ? and can you set the colour, or is it just in the programming ? !@#
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I have been having so much FUN playing the new PRO machine.
Changing the insult level to high in the menu settings is a blast, hearing all the Steve Ritchie comments is fun. The software upgrade from 1.25 to version 1.4 was definately worthwhile. I read on the STERN site that there are around 70 additions with the upgraded software. Audio game noises is one of the biggest things you notice.
I have found the best volume level to crank the music up to is 35 or 40. Thats nice n very loud to hear the music really really well, but makes it easier to hear all the cool other audio noises for the game noises. I am looking at changing all the bulbs to LEDS probably today, might take a before and after set of photos. It doesnt really need it, but I have LEDS so i might just do it.
!@# HOW HAVE you LE owners found the colour changing LEDS and the LEDS in general ?...
....not too bright, doesnt interfere with seeing the ball easily ? !@# When do the colour changing leds come off n on ? and can you set the colour, or is it just in the programming ? !@#
When I did my TOM with LED's it was hard to track the ball but with my LE its great no problems at all, The color changing led's work great depending on song and I have mine set at 44 volume level ^^^ I don't think there's a an upgrade yet for the LE but I'll keep an eye out but updating the code looks scary. Its great having drop targets again I'm really enjoying that side of the game..I have my insult level on high to its fun hearing Steve give some shit.
Peter
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Upgrading the code is easy. there is a video on the STERN site which shows how to do it step by step.
When there is a gamecode update Pete, if u have any hassles, u can call me and I can easily talk you through it. You just have to make sure u download the WinZip program which is also on the same STERN gamecode page.
Wow, u have your music even higher than me, your neighbours must love you by now.lol %.% %.% ^^^ ^^^
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LEDs are great they are very bright but I don't get that flicker that makes me feel sick. The only downside to it is now I look at the other games and keep thinking the GI isn't working they just look so dull
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Upgrading the code is easy. there is a video on the STERN site which shows how to do it step by step.
When there is a gamecode update Pete, if u have any hassles, u can call me and I can easily talk you through it. You just have to make sure u download the WinZip program which is also on the same STERN gamecode page.
Wow, u have your music even higher than me, your neighbours must love you by now.lol %.% %.% ^^^ ^^^
Cool thanks and yeah maybe I'm deaf better turn it down abit I suppose #@#
Peter
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LEDs are great they are very bright but I don't get that flicker that makes me feel sick. The only downside to it is now I look at the other games and keep thinking the GI isn't working they just look so dull
It does make my other pinballs look average in the lighting dept.
Peter
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Great news - Bell opto fixed in 3 days - will install tonight and get some games in!
Playfield pic was sent to Stern from AMD
I told LeoI want a new playfield over a complete playfield swap
I think AMD is thinking of swapping playfields over but I would rather avoid the potential scratches from having to transport machine to cashbox and then nervously wait for the operation without and any added damage.
Pic looks worse than it is - it is actually hard to pick except for the dent- SLR camera with fluro lighting on the right angle closeup makes it look bad but really only the dent stands out at 3mm actual - having the spare BIB LE playfield will make me feel much better!@ $#$
Lets see Sterns decision!
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Mr Tilt, wouldnt cashbox just send their tech to your house with the exchange playfield and do the changeover at your house ? (easier for you)
It would be easier n cheaper for Stern and its agents to just send u a naked playfield, but if u are not going to install it, it might start a trend of people asking for spare playfields if they have a small mark etc. Either way, hope it works out for you, and am glad the opto is fixed etc.
Now go and play 100 games and catch up on the fun factor ! Crank the volume and keep those neighbours happy ^^^ ^^^
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Forgot to add, ANYONE WHO HAS A NEW ACDC is welcome to put some videos up on the forum ! *%* *%* *%*
We would love to see as many videos as possible ! The LE machines rock for sure. Lighting is unbelievably great. $#$
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For starters, here's the man himself on a Pro:
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Great news - Bell opto fixed in 3 days - will install tonight and get some games in!
Playfield pic was sent to Stern from AMD
I told LeoI want a new playfield over a complete playfield swap
I think AMD is thinking of swapping playfields over but I would rather avoid the potential scratches from having to transport machine to cashbox and then nervously wait for the operation without and any added damage.
Pic looks worse than it is - it is actually hard to pick except for the dent- SLR camera with fluro lighting on the right angle closeup makes it look bad but really only the dent stands out at 3mm actual - having the spare BIB LE playfield will make me feel much better!@ $#$
Lets see Sterns decision!
Which ever way Stern decide I would be surprised if they didnt want the old playfield back,
the only other one I have heard of was an Elvis gold and it was a complete populated playfield sent over and the old one had to be sent back
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For starters, here's the man himself on a Pro:
Thankyou Ivo for the video. ^^^ Excellent Video.I like the fact he has chose to play the best machine there.lol a SUPER PRO .lol ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^
Go Steve Ritchie. Very cool. ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ ^^^ THE MAN CAN PLAY . Thats for sure. I would love to have a game of doubles with Steve Ritchie, he would probably kick my ass all day long, and I wouldnt mind being beaten by the legend himself either. Always looks like a top bloke.
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This video below is the BEST video. Its worth watching again and again even if u have seen it before. ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
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Has anyone put any mods on their new AC/DC pin yet ???
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Has anyone put any mods on their new AC/DC pin yet ???
which model? or any?....
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Sent a message of disappointment to Stern and had Gary respond. Been a week today, and while others enjoy their machines,mine sit idle.
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Sent a message of disappointment to Stern and had Gary respond. Been a week today, and while others enjoy their machines,mine sit idle.
Man that it is crap for you. Does AMD know?
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Sent a message of disappointment to Stern and had Gary respond. Been a week today, and while others enjoy their machines,mine sit idle.
Have you taken the machines back to the Stern dealer you purchased them from ? If so, couldnt the Stern dealer have carried out the repairs by now, over the last one x week ? It doesnt make sense to me contacting the USA when there is a perfect Australian Stern dealer located in both Melbourne and Sydney who have all the resources to fix both machines. Ther USA are only going to refer you to the local Stern agent anyway.
I would love to know what all these faults are and would like to see some photos, as I am sure others wouldnt mind either.
If anything, other ACDC owners can use the information and have it on file incase they have an issue.
Can u list the faults and take some photos ?
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Sent a message of disappointment to Stern and had Gary respond. Been a week today, and while others enjoy their machines,mine sit idle.
Hope all works out Dave and they get them running like new.
Peter
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Sent a message of disappointment to Stern and had Gary respond. Been a week today, and while others enjoy their machines,mine sit idle.
That sucks big time mate, hope they sort it out quickly for you
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Sent a message of disappointment to Stern and had Gary respond. Been a week today, and while others enjoy their machines,mine sit idle.
Man that it is crap for you. Does AMD know?
maybe they wernet purchased through AMD...
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Had some more games on my machine today. Alot of FUN.
Enjoying it more and more everytime I play it. Ive started to work out how to get multiball the easiest. Machine likes the ramps to be shot to maximise points, as well as hitting the bell target etc. Hitting the right target with the cannon is important to get maximum points.
Also, u get rewarded for having the ball roll down the side inlanes, which lights either the cannon, or multiball or double points for 20 seconds etc.
Still not a easy machine to beat, every game is challenging. Machine plays so fast it is crazy.
ARE YOU OTHER AC/DC OWNERS finding the same thing, game is ultra fast ? !@# Have u worked out the best scoring tactics ?
I Keep watching the game rule videos etc SR did, it helps to work out the rules for each song. Stacks of different ways to try n beat the machine. Heaps of different missions. I like the fact that the dot matrix displays have different content for each song. Very cool. ^^^
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Had some more games on my machine today. Alot of FUN.
Enjoying it more and more everytime I play it. Ive started to work out how to get multiball the easiest. Machine likes the ramps to be shot to maximise points, as well as hitting the bell target etc. Hitting the right target with the cannon is important to get maximum points.
Also, u get rewarded for having the ball roll down the side inlanes, which lights either the cannon, or multiball or double points for 20 seconds etc.
Still not a easy machine to beat, every game is challenging. Machine plays so fast it is crazy.
ARE YOU OTHER AC/DC OWNERS finding the same thing, game is ultra fast ? !@# Have u worked out the best scoring tactics ?
I Keep watching the game rule videos etc SR did, it helps to work out the rules for each song. Stacks of different ways to try n beat the machine. Heaps of different missions. I like the fact that the dot matrix displays have different content for each song. Very cool. ^^^
I'm with you I'm still trying to work out the rules but love the speed that's for sure
Peter
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Pete, is the bottom playfield interesting/challenging enough, what the lighting down there like etc.
Whats your favourite part of the game ? !@#
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1st 90 games no ball jam between cannon and ramp
Now im getting them all the time
Moved machine to take glass off - maybe machine needs to be lift higher at rear legs
Any potential fix - let us know ?
Meanwhile Bruce from AMD has notified stern of my playfield issue - waiting for response
Great ACDC vid from PAPA with commentary:
http://vimeo.com/40321422
Reminds me of World Poker Tour!
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I took the glass off my PRO and just checked the space between the base of the cannon and the ramp with the ball and there is heaps of room on mine, plenty of drop, so i dont know what is going on with the LE model. I will keep an eye on mine and will report if i have any change.
Have you guys used the factory bubble/leveller near the shooter lane to make sure you have your rear legs wound up to the correct height ? !@#
The first thing I did was to wind the back legs up and level the machine. Without it, the machine wont play like it was meant to.
But I would imagine you would have done that Mr Tilt cause you have ALOT of brand new Sterns. ^^^
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Upgrading the code is easy. there is a video on the STERN site which shows how to do it step by step.
When there is a gamecode update Pete, if u have any hassles, u can call me and I can easily talk you through it. You just have to make sure u download the WinZip program which is also on the same STERN gamecode page.
Wow, u have your music even higher than me, your neighbours must love you by now.lol %.% %.% ^^^ ^^^
you dont need the WinZip program, you can just copy and paste or extract to your nominated drive
same result either way
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I could not get the file to upload at all to the pinball machine until I converted the file with WinZip. I tried 3 times and failed uploading vis a USB stick to ACDC until the winzip program was used. It actually says that on the Stern page as well. You must have had WinZip or a similar program already installed on your computer. You can download the gamecode to the drive or anywhere on your computer without WinZip, but the gamecode has to be converted with Winzip or it will not upload at all.
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once the code is downloaded to say "documents" you can copy and then paste to the USB
and on another computer I could extract file to the USB
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I didn't bother leveling my game because its only temporary in the lOunge decided to do it tonight and I've absolutely f**ked it 8 out of 10 balls go from the pop bumpers straight down the guts. Anyone else found this I'm ready to smash it.
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I didn't bother leveling my game because its only temporary in the lOunge decided to do it tonight and I've absolutely f**ked it 8 out of 10 balls go from the pop bumpers straight down the guts. Anyone else found this I'm ready to smash it.
Set it up the same you would a woodrail mate... you dont use a level for final setting. You set to level and then you tweak the legs till you get the best possible game from it.
Level doesnt mean best game.. just means level
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I didn't bother leveling my game because its only temporary in the lOunge decided to do it tonight and I've absolutely f**ked it 8 out of 10 balls go from the pop bumpers straight down the guts. Anyone else found this I'm ready to smash it.
I just whacked my legs on straight out of box and it's perfect I've never had a ball get caught all good and bubble is between black lines I'll leave it alone and also never had a ball go straight down the guts from the bell or bumpers
I love the ramp combo shots and the lower playfield Brett
Peter
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once the code is downloaded to say "documents" you can copy and then paste to the USB
and on another computer I could extract file to the USB
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I think I understand what u are saying ? Are you saying you successfully changed the gamecode version 1.25 to 1.4 without converting the file with Winzip. Did u actually place the USB stick into the pinball machine and change the gamecode and follow all the instructions on the dot matrix and hit the service buttons as requested etc ? OR are u saying you just downloaded the file to your computer only. The only reason I am checking is so others dont get confused with the Stern procedure.
I can download the program very easily onto my desktop or onto a drive. I then dowmloaded to the USB stick and then placed into the Pinball machine. It would NOT work. So I went back, downloaded the Winzip file, then converted the file with Winzip then redownloaded to the USB, then it worked and downloaded into the machine.
The first 3 times I downloaded to the USB easily, but it wouldnt work in the game. I then rang AMD and they asked had i converted the file with the winzip program. Once i did that, the USB stick would then download into the machine properly.
Without converting the file with Winzip, it would just say something like "File not found" on the ACDC dotmatrix.
PETE
I changed my back legs and wound them down aprox half way and the bubble sits perfectly. My machine is on tiles, so different floors do different things ofcourse. Glad u are loving your game Pete.
DANIEL
Make sure u have the little factory wire piece bent correctly to its proper position up the top on the exit area of the pop bumpers. Also, it sounds like your machine is leaning to the left and is low on the left side Daniel. Wind down rear left leg and front left leg a little. It shld fix it.
Its all FUN. You willl have to get together (Pete and daniel) and have a game of doubles and kick each others arse.lol %.% %.% ^^^ ^^^
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Just to clarify some possible confusion - does the Stern CPU require the actual file to be unpacked from Winzip to enable the ROM update?
Brett- From reading your text I am guessing you just copied the downloaded Winzip file straight to USB?
Depending on your operating system on your PC, some can read Winzip straight from the OS - ie Vista and Windows 7. If you run XP, then you'll need to install Winzip to be able to open and extract files from the archive.
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quote from Marty
Just to clarify some possible confusion - does the Stern CPU require the actual file to be unpacked from Winzip to enable the ROM update?
yes. I am running latest windows (just bought this computer 1 x week ago and it came loaded with software, but did not have winzip.
AMD told me to download the new gamecode file from the Stern site. Winzip not needed for that. But once downloaded to my computer, they told me to open winzip and convert file to a zipped or unzipped, whatever the term is etc, then, and only then will the USB stick be registered/seen by the ACDC game etc. I am not technical with computers but without the winzip conversion, it will not work in the pinball machine. does that make sense Marty. I think u know what i mean.
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IF you're running Windows 7 (which a new computer should be) then the O/S will recognize Winzip files without having to install the program Winzip. Just a matter of double clicking on file then the O/S will open the Winzip file and you can copy the file straight out.
For those running XP, yes you'll need to install Winzip. Win 7 or Vista, you're all good.
I think the mistake Brett was you copied the Zip file straight to the USB and the Stern CPU cannot recognize the file. Double clicking the file on your computer then copying to the USB should fix it.
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I actually copied file to my desktop first. Once it was copied to my desktop i then clicked n dragged to the USB. (But it would not work in pinball machine and it said file not found on dotmatrix)
Then I downloaded winzip to my computer, dragged file into winzip n followed instructions, then dragged unzipped file to USB. It only worked then.
Computers, a pain in the ass.lol
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Has anyone put any mods on their new AC/DC pin yet ???
which model? or any?....
Any model
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Played the pro again in the city today...man I just can't get into this game..just doesn't have IT.
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Machine has been levelled 100%
Problem of ball getting stuck at cannon cannot be rectified
I worked out why the ball gets stuck and basically STERN needs an update kit like Transformers required
The ball hits the left metal wall of the cannon and basically stops it from going straight into the cannon instead resting in the gap
I added thick pinballlife mylar to the base extending out of the cannon and to the left wall extending out but no cigar
This is a Stern f**kup and must be reported to Stern for a fix
All they had to do was allow another 3mm to the left wall to let ball roll in ! WTF are they doing!~
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Played the pro again in the city today...man I just can't get into this game..just doesn't have IT.
Fair enough. You can't like them all.
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Played the pro again in the city today...man I just can't get into this game..just doesn't have IT.
Fair enough. You can't like them all.
I would like to try the premium or le to compare with the pro but the chances of finding one in the wild up here is pretty remote.
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I had a great game of doubles this morning with my 11 year old daughter. She absolutely loves the new AC/DC pinny. The kids love the music.
One thing I noticed when my 11 year old daughter was playing, is alot of the really cool graphics on the dot matrix which you dont get to see yourself sometimes when u are playing. Because the game is so fast, u really have to keep your eye on the playfield alot.
I also like the fact you can really see all of the playfield when u are playing, there is not a inch of the playfield hidden on the PRO.
I also am looking forward to a game on the Premium or LE cause I reckon the lightshow and the different features will make it also a great pin.
I think a Premium sitting next to the PRO would look terriffic. The ultimate combo.lol
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Looks like there's an LE update available on the Stern website.
Peter
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Hi All,
Yesterday I put a deposit on a premium AC DC, Was told its about a month before delivery of the next batch , can't wait , should be awesome.
I think my 6 year old is looking forward to it more than me.
Decided i would put the shaker motor off until further notice.But is it worth getting the "Bling Balls"and if so who sells them
Thanks Matt
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Hi All,
Yesterday I put a deposit on a premium AC DC, Was told its about a month before delivery of the next batch , can't wait , should be awesome.
I think my 6 year old is looking forward to it more than me.
Decided i would put the shaker motor off until further notice.But is it worth getting the "Bling Balls"and if so who sells them
Thanks Matt
CONGRATULATIONS. You and your family should have a great time with the new machine.
Shaker motor definately worth while when u are ready. ^^^
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Hi All,
Yesterday I put a deposit on a premium AC DC, Was told its about a month before delivery of the next batch , can't wait , should be awesome.
I think my 6 year old is looking forward to it more than me.
Decided i would put the shaker motor off until further notice.But is it worth getting the "Bling Balls"and if so who sells them
Thanks Matt
My blings have already got dents in them from sharp edges around cannon metal bracket
Pinball shed in Qld has them
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Looks like there's an LE update available on the Stern website.
Peter
I counted almost 80 software upgrades. Will take a good 15 to 20 mins for all the gamecode to upload once USB stick placed in machine.
You will definately notice the differences.
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once the code is downloaded to say "documents" you can copy and then paste to the USB
and on another computer I could extract file to the USB
REPLAY
I think I understand what u are saying ? Are you saying you successfully changed the gamecode version 1.25 to 1.4 without converting the file with Winzip. Did u actually place the USB stick into the pinball machine and change the gamecode and follow all the instructions on the dot matrix and hit the service buttons as requested etc ? OR are u saying you just downloaded the file to your computer only. The only reason I am checking is so others dont get confused with the Stern procedure.
I can download the program very easily onto my desktop or onto a drive. I then dowmloaded to the USB stick and then placed into the Pinball machine. It would NOT work. So I went back, downloaded the Winzip file, then converted the file with Winzip then redownloaded to the USB, then it worked and downloaded into the machine.
The first 3 times I downloaded to the USB easily, but it wouldnt work in the game. I then rang AMD and they asked had i converted the file with the winzip program. Once i did that, the USB stick would then download into the machine properly.
Without converting the file with Winzip, it would just say something like "File not found" on the ACDC dotmatrix.
yeah mate,
I just upgraded the LE from 1.0 to 1.5 code
Downloaded 1.5 code to "documents"
then right clicked it from "documents"
selected "extract" and chose drive "F" (which the USB is plugged into)
pull it out of the computer and plug into the pin and away she goes, 20-30mins, all done!
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Mines all updated it's even better now took 30 mins
Peter
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heaps better audio and i think the graphics are better too
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Cannon fixed - 6 pieces of thick mylar 2cm x 2cm each to base and left wall extending 1cm out both base and left wall and problem is fixed - looks neat as well
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There are no updates for the premium wonder if I can update with the LE software
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Sent a message of disappointment to Stern and had Gary respond. Been a week today, and while others enjoy their machines,mine sit idle.
Have you taken the machines back to the Stern dealer you purchased them from ? If so, couldnt the Stern dealer have carried out the repairs by now, over the last one x week ? It doesnt make sense to me contacting the USA when there is a perfect Australian Stern dealer located in both Melbourne and Sydney who have all the resources to fix both machines. Ther USA are only going to refer you to the local Stern agent anyway.
I would love to know what all these faults are and would like to see some photos, as I am sure others wouldnt mind either.
If anything, other ACDC owners can use the information and have it on file incase they have an issue.
Can u list the faults and take some photos ?
If you spent over 18K on 2 machines that were brand new and they didnt work you wouldnt bother sending a polite letter of disappointment to the manufacturer? I've done them a favour by spending 5 hours already repairing the machines. Unfortunately I dont have replacement boards or motors for the remaining issues.
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[/quote]If you spent over 18K on 2 machines that were brand new and they didnt work you wouldnt bother sending a polite letter of disappointment to the manufacturer? I've done them a favour by spending 5 hours already repairing the machines. Unfortunately I dont have replacement boards or motors for the remaining issues.
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I think Stern owe you at the very least a very huge SORRY.
There is no excuse for this at all.
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Just unboxed my acdc pro and the cannon is not firing when fire button pressed? Any one else had this problem?
Apart from this small prob machine is awesome, very well packaged, mint condition, full credit to Stern, wife and kids all love this game, this game is 100% keeper in my personal collection.
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Silverball, have you
1. Taken the machines back to the Stern dealer you bought the machines from in the first place ?
2. What specifically are the issues you are having ?
3. Have u contacted AMD or the Stern dealer in Australia, and what did they say about all of this ?
4. Have Stern in the USA referred u back to the Australian Stern representative ?
If it was me, firstly, I would take the machines back to the Stern dealer I bought them from.
Secondly, I wouldnt attempt to fix anything, it might void the warranty.
Thirdly, If I was going to tell others on a forum that I was having issues, I would tell the other members of the issues you are having so that they may learn something from the experience and it may help others when they get their LE machines.
I appreciate you highlighted my post, and mentioned the 18 grand u have spent, but we are all still in the dark as to what is really going on.
Did u buy the machines from a Australian Stern dealer ? I only mention that, because any ACDC machines purchased that are not Australian delivered have no warranty in this country.
It would be nice to know the full story. I hope it works out for you.
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Just unboxed my acdc pro and the cannon is not firing when fire button pressed? Any one else had this problem?
Apart from this small prob machine is awesome, very well packaged, mint condition, full credit to Stern, wife and kids all love this game, this game is 100% keeper in my personal collection.
Leon, there is a software upgrade that makes the cannon button work automatically if its not turned on in default settings. You can go into the menu and make sure the cannon button is turned on. Check your setting, but I would do the 1.4 software upgrade anyway which shld fix. ^^^
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Using the buttons inside the door out it in switch test and see if the fire button registers if not remove the lock bar and activate the switch by hand see if that helps might be bent out of place
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Lots of problems for a lot of brand new machines and these are only the ones I have read here, believe me there are more people also very frustrated with this who have shelled out good money on a rush job that are not part of this forum.
Shame Stern shame!
Lets hope they compenaste you all for this mess. If this were a car with this many recurring problems there would be a recall quick smart.
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Using the buttons inside the door out it in switch test and see if the fire button registers if not remove the lock bar and activate the switch by hand see if that helps might be bent out of place
Thanks dan, will run a switch test
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Lots of problems for a lot of brand new machines and these are only the ones I have read here, believe me there are more people also very frustrated with this who have shelled out good money on a rush job that are not part of this forum.
Shame Stern shame!
Lets hope they compenaste you all for this mess. If this were a car with this many recurring problems there would be a recall quick smart.
Hang on ,before you jump on your high horse and condemn them,all brand new cars have a pre-delivery check done on them by the dealer selling them,how many of these pins with faults where pulled out of the box by the owner and not checked by the dealer like is recommended by Stern.
I have worked for a new vehicle seller in the past and believe me they do have faults
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Lots of problems for a lot of brand new machines and these are only the ones I have read here, believe me there are more people also very frustrated with this who have shelled out good money on a rush job that are not part of this forum.
Shame Stern shame!
Lets hope they compenaste you all for this mess. If this were a car with this many recurring problems there would be a recall quick smart.
Its early days. Too early to just guess. Only AMD know the real story about any machines having issues. Without knowing the full story, its all specualtion. I agree with Ratbag 100 percent. Alot of people knock back the free dealer precheck of their new Stern machines.
No reason to beat the drum of negativity again anyone just because of a few issues. All brand new STERN machines that are Australian delivered carry a full 6 months warranty. AMD/Bruce has my full confidence that there is nothing that cant be fully fixed given the opportunity and contact from a buyer.
No use making a mountain out of a ant hill. Nothing is going to stop a few thousand people from enjoying their ACDC machines, because there is nothing that cant be fixed under the warranty process.
I am not going to let any negativity stop me from enjoying my ACDC machine which is perfect and alot of fun.
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If you spent over 18K on 2 machines that were brand new and they didnt work you wouldnt bother sending a polite letter of disappointment to the manufacturer? I've done them a favour by spending 5 hours already repairing the machines. Unfortunately I dont have replacement boards or motors for the remaining issues.
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I think Stern owe you at the very least a very huge SORRY.
There is no excuse for this at all.
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Hi Silverball,
You still keep avoiding the questions!!! What have you done that would take you five hours to fix? Seems an awful long time and must of had some serious problems for you to have spent that long and still not fixed it. For a technician, faulty motor diagnosis does not take long time to work out and for the supposeably faulty board, you AMD agent in Melbourne would of been able to sort that one out for you. Perhaps you should try contacting him, that would be the courteous thing to do if all these problems are happening to your games. Thats unless you railroaded them in, which in turn would leave you no warranty on your games and totally explain why your games are not working here in Australia properly. Would also love to see Gary Sterns reply to you when you get it back from him. And he will reply. If he doesnt, be sure to send me your build model numbers and serial numbers of the games and I will definately get the right answers for you.
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Lots of problems for a lot of brand new machines and these are only the ones I have read here, believe me there are more people also very frustrated with this who have shelled out good money on a rush job that are not part of this forum.
Shame Stern shame!
Lets hope they compenaste you all for this mess. If this were a car with this many recurring problems there would be a recall quick smart.
Hang on ,before you jump on your high horse and condemn them,all brand new cars have a pre-delivery check done on them by the dealer selling them,how many of these pins with faults where pulled out of the box by the owner and not checked by the dealer like is recommended by Stern.
I have worked for a new vehicle seller in the past and believe me they do have faults
Fair enough point taken but it still doesn't change the fact that this pin is a poor rush job.
So glad I didn't fall for the hype.
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Let's hope this machine is in good working order:
http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/gatton/other-stuff-for-sale/ac-dc-back-in-black-pinball-machine-2012-brand-new-in-box/1001759805
Only #001 or #007 should command a 30% profit so soon after release. The seller could at least disclose the production number.
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12.5k... the seller is dreaming!
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12.5k... the seller is dreaming!
demand is greater than supply - I reckon he might get close to it
this is similar to Elvis Gold , SMBlack etc
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12.5k... the seller is dreaming!
demand is greater than supply - I reckon he might get close to it
this is similar to Elvis Gold , SMBlack etc
+1 why not !@#
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The best way to secure a LE machine, would be to contact AMD or one of its Aust agents in case someone does want to cancel for financial reasons and it may make a LE available. I would try anything and everything before I gave someone a extra $3000 for doing absolutely nothing.
REMEMBERING ALSO that the Premium model is available at $8200 from memory, so why pay someone $12,500 which doesnt make sense. The Premium model looks beautiful and very close ofcourse, just a different translite. Go the Premium and save heaps of $$. ^^^
WARRANTY ON NEW STERNS
ALSO, it is worth re-mentioning that any BNIB Stern games that are purchased from overseas which are not Australian delivered machines carry no factory warranty. Gary Stern was very clear about that on a recent video. The reason that there is no warranty for these non Australian delivered machines, is that the power supply and the boards are set up differently and run on a different cycle which is not designed to run on Australian 240 volts.
Anyone who buys a new machine from say the USA or another country, who plugs it in over here will likely cause many faults/blown boards etc, and will not have a machine that will work correctly etc straight off the bat like a Australian delivered machine.
I raise this because some people may be tempted to buy a available LE from the USA (either privately or from a USA Stern agent) but it will carry no warranty and will not work here correctly. Anyone trying to cheat the system and save a buck, will only cost themselves alot of money and cause faults which wont be covered under warranty. Its pretty hard to complain about faults if you cause them yourself by buying non approved machines and plugging them into a power supply that the machine was not built for @.@. Our Aussie STERN machines require 50 cycle, not the USA 60 cycle.
It pays to deal directly with a approved Australian Stern distributor. 6 months full warranty and a machine which is designed to work with our 240 volts will be the reward. Plus supporting the Australian dealers is also positive for our Aussie pinball Industry. (Warning from Stern site below >)
GAMES SHIPPED TO NORTH AMERICA OPERATE ON 60 CYCLE ELECTRICITY ONLY.
THESE GAMES WILL NOT OPERATE IN COUNTRIES WITH 50 CYCLE ELECTRICITY(EUROPE INCLUDING THE UK).
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Has anyone installed Mirror Blades on their LE??
It seems like there isnt much room for them
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With the LE update when the bonus is calculated there's new sound all mixed together as well as the normal weird sound anyone else notice this??
Peter
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With the LE update when the bonus is calculated there's new sound all mixed together as well as the normal weird sound anyone else notice this??
Peter
YES. Same on the PRO Pete, once i did the gamecode update. There is now a new click/electronic clapping/cash register type noise when the scores are being tallied after you lose a ball, plus lots of other good stuff. ^^^
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Oh good cheers Brett I was worried for a moment it's a Shame you lose the highest scores
Peter
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Peter,
I noticed the same thing, and the numbers are thicker. I updated late last night and only had a quick game managing 45 mill score quite easily on LTBR so I guess there are a number of bonus point changes as well.
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FOR ANYONE INTERESTED, check out the amount of gamecode changes for the LE. Its the same for the PRO, or similar anyway.
V1.5 - April 27, 2012
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- Removed the definitions for the lower playfield end-of-stroke switches,
as these have been removed and were never in any of the production games.
So now they will no longer be reported in Tech Alert.
- The upper playfield flippers were not being turned off during "Hells
Bells" and "Highway To Hell" when the ball was held and the lower
playfield was being played. This has been corrected.
- If the ball leaves a device while the lower playfield is being played,
the upper playfield flippers will be turned back on.
- More time was added to settle the bell eject after a kick.
- Playfield multiplier now paused when the lower playfield is active.
- Added backgrounds for "Hells Bells" and "Highway To Hell" lower playfield.
- 2X, 3X, and jukebox song title lamp states are now displayed when the
lower playfield is active.
- Removed lamp effects that manipulated the G.I. relay.
- Ball search for the bell magnet was not ignoring the bell opto switch
and keeping it from scoring a hit on the bell. This has been corrected.
- Fixed a resource conflict with the song select G.I. backgrounds. These
now work as intended.
- Completing all of the white note arrow shots during a song now adds 2.5M
to the song jackpot. This can be done any number of times.
- Timers are now paused when the player is choosing a song. (This fixes the
issue of the ball saver timing down at the start of a new ball when the
player plunges the ball into the jukebox and takes some time picking a new
song.)
- Added artwork for the start of "Hells Bells".
- Added a sound for tilt.
- All white note arrow shots completed during a song records 3 units of
permanent progress (one time, adjustable), such that completing notes
and changing songs will continually lock in higher scores for new songs.
- Super loops no longer has any effect on whether the right control gate
causes the ball to loop around, so if "Whole Lotta Rosie" or "You Shook
Me All Night Long" are running, the ball will go into the pop bumpers.
- Added jackpot information to the super loops award display effect.
- Added sounds for "Let There Be Rock".
- Cannon targets are now displayed in order of increasing score.
- Added song jackpot to tour multiball.
- Changed the lamp effect for a spinner hit during "War Machine".
- Added a sound for the War Machine bay doors opening.
- Lowered spinner scores.
- Changed bell target hit artwork. The new art includes the AC/DC logo on
the bell.
- Fixed an issue with transitioning from the shooter groove music to the
main play music. The main play music would cut off the very beginning
of the shooter groove music if the ball was on the playfield during
the first bar of the shooter groove music.
- Added the car dip animation to the bumper hits for "You Shook Me All
Night Long". This fixes the bad rendering of the girls over the car on
frames #3, #4, and #5.
- Added a sound for hitting the T.N.T. targets during T.N.T.
- Added more information to song collect display effects when the song is
selected.
- Fixed mode start text (vertical centering, it was off by 1 pixel).
- Added T.N.T. start dots.
- Cleaned up cannon lamp effects.
- Added art to the "Bump 'N' Win" award display effect.
- Added an animation for the start of "You Shook Me All Night Long".
- Fixed up some mode key sounds.
- Lowered the left ramp score during Rock N Roll Train.
- Changed bonus. The current formula is:
(25K * number of songs lit
+
50K * number of songs played, +50K more if all white note shots for the
song were completed)
*
bonus multiplier
*
(3 if triple bonus, 2 if double bonus).
- Added sounds for skill shot, super skill shot, and highway to hell start.
- Added art for "Let There Be Rock".
V1.4 - March 22, 2012
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- Thunderstruck and hells bells music loop did not loop properly.
This has been corrected.
- Added instant info for jam multiball.
- Added instant info for tour multiball.
- Cleaned up tour multiball. Tour names are now displayed, along with
a variety of ticket stubs.
- Added to instant info for album multiball.
- Added display effects for completing tour multiball and jam multiball.
- Increased the scores for the T.N.T. mode.
- Changed default ramp shots to re-light the jam multiball super jackpot
from 4 to 6.
- Added highway to hell start art.
- Added tour/jam/album multiball super jackpots.
- Changed target multiball super jackpot re-light to completing a number
of target banks instead of completing all target banks.
- Fixed a problem with firing the flasher for the multiball super
jackpot(s) on the cannon->bell.
- Fixed song bonuses for album multiball and tour multiball. These were
not awarding the first 1M as they should have been.
- Added bell flasher to multiball super jackpot cannon shot.
- Changed mode collect scoring. If the song is NOT changed, the bonus
is: (50K * # of songs lit) + an additional (200K) if all 11 songs have
been lit. If the song IS changed, the bonus is (500K * # of songs
completed) + (50K * # of songs lit) + an additional 200K if all songs
that have not been completed have been lit.
- Fixed audit names so they fit on the display.
- Added loop jackpot, combo jackpot, and target jackpot to the cannon
awards.
- Changed the priorities of the mode pop bumper award display effects so
they would not cut off the top lane display effects.
- Lowered train combo score.
- Added title messages to skill shot and super skill shot.
- Fixed skill shot "items" text error.
- Cannon mode was not being marked solid properly. This has been
corrected.
- Removed the cannon mode lock via the fire button and the randomizing
of the cannon modes. The sequence is always: FODDER, VOLLEY, CHAOS.
- Super modes are now only randomized on the ramp standup targets.
- Added animating people to the cannon sequence display effects.
- Added art for red arrow shots.
- Fixed a problem with the cannon flasher not flashing when multiball
was ready.
- Cleaned up cannon artwork.
- Added cannon speech.
- Fixed problems in "Hell Ain't A Bad Place To Be", "Hells Bells", and
"Highway To Hell", where hitting the main shot for the rule would not
re-light the white arrow shots.
- Added sounds for extra ball and special.
- Added song jackpot HSTD.
- Added the song jackpot score to the song select background display
effect.
- Song jackpot now carries over from song to song.
- Fixed several issues with the cannon and "For Those About To Rock".
- Added artwork and a display effect for replay.
- Added artwork for highway to hell, for those about to rock, and extra
ball.
- Fixed mode setup such that the song for every player in competition
mode will not be "Back In Black".
- Redesigned cannon handling so all game features that want to use the
cannon can co-exist peacefully.
- All songs now award add-a-ball when white arrow note shots are
completed during multiball.
- Added more unique combos.
- Changed highway to hell art.
- Changed some thunderstruck sounds.
- Lowered Rosie lane scores.
- Added riffs for multiballs.
- Added sounds to bonus count.
- Added top eject kick sound and a lamp effect.
- Changed the sound for completing the top lanes.
- Added sounds for top lanes.
- Added a bonus for selecting a song (be it the same song or a new one).
- Cleaned up "Let There Be Rock" and "Hell Ain't A Bad Place To Be"
modes.
- Cleaned up "Highway To Hell" and "Hells Bells" modes.
- Fixed an issue with the TNT background showing some dynamite in a
bright color when it should have been dim.
- Changed project to use "system-vnc1l-grinder-PRO-branch", which restores
the use of the beta-brite sign.
- Tour multiball balls in play changed from 3 to 2. Jam multiball balls
in play changed from 3 to 2.
- Changed shook me car art.
- Added new T.N.T. art for the background hurry-ups. Cleaned up T.N.T.
mode.
- Cleaned up ticket stubs (separated the artwork and centered the text).
- Put in new gear artwork for combos and super loops.
- Corrected the render order of the girls and Angus for You Shook Me.
V1.21 - February 2, 2012
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- Initial release.
Has anyone got a headache AFTER READING ALL THAT.LOL %.% %.%
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Wow that's a lot of changes I wonder if the premium already has those changes hence no update yet?
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Wow that's a lot of changes I wonder if the premium already has those changes hence no update yet?
what version do u see when u turn the game on ? is it the same as the first LE version number ?
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Here are a few photos of my 2 yr old son Hunter playing AC/DC. ^^^
He loves the music on the machine. We use the jack up trolley so he can reach easily. Its a classic.
In the 2nd photo he is hitting the fire button for the cannon from the lockdown bar. He found the flashing red light which stops him hitting the green credit button 20 times.lol
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Mine comes up with version 1.32
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Pete,
My PRO headbox has 4 x very very small pre-drilled holes in the top of the headbox which ARE the exact screw positions for the tournament topper IF u want to add one.
Prince,
I had to wash the dishs today for the first time in 14 years, not because I have been playing the AC/DC pinball, but more like because I spent around$6300 (Pro plus shaker motor plus delivery) and the wife would have liked to buy a new car instead of "all these bloody pinball machines all over the bloody house routine". %.% %.% So I washed all the dishs to get in the good books (for 5 minutes anyway) @.@
Silverball,
That is not good about having 2 x machines in a row with issues. The chances of that happening must be 1 million to 1. I dont understand how those machines passed the quality control burn in tests which would normally pick up that stuff instantly. It would be good to hear later what you have found and any feedback would be appreciated by other AC/DC owners.
HAS ANYONE HEARD of anyone else having any issues ? !@#
mine seems ok, although at the very top of the playfield were it spells A X E the A bulb is blue and the X and E is white, i don't think they should be different, also there are 3 bulbs in a clear window just under the A X E one doesn't work, i had a look under the playfield, and there not bulbs there like litte electronic boards way over my head.
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Daniel (ddstoys)
I emailed Stern and apparently the gamecode upgrade is due over the next 14 days.
Piesrule,
Supposed to be 3 x white LEDs, u are correct. Changing the colours might look good. Got me thinking now.
Perhaps check with the dealer u got machine from re the other question, or look at someone elses machine and see if it is the same or different.
Is your mahine a PRO as well or a LE ? !@#
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If you spent over 18K on 2 machines that were brand new and they didnt work you wouldnt bother sending a polite letter of disappointment to the manufacturer? I've done them a favour by spending 5 hours already repairing the machines. Unfortunately I dont have replacement boards or motors for the remaining issues.
I think Stern owe you at the very least a very huge SORRY.
There is no excuse for this at all.
[/quote]Keep avoiding what questions,I am not on this forum every minute of the day.
I work full time in the industry as a tech/ service manager and unbox most new Sterns before sending to our customers because most have faults from the factory. I have contacted my local distributor,I bought them through him and he is going to handle the situation(a nice guy). I sent a letter of disappointment to Stern,I dont blame the Aussie distrubutor for the faults I have,they didnt build the machines.
I like others have been waiting for this pin to arrive and of course it is disappointing to open and have 2 pins with varies factory faults.
Cavey,I will not take 2 new machines back to the distributor,high risk of scratching/damaging.
About 5 hours was spent fault finding,adjusting and diagnosing faults and giving information to the distributor so he knows what faulty parts to send. I have done nothing to void warranty,no assmeblies,boards or parts removed. I will report back with the final outcome when all is good,meanwhile I wait patiently.
Hi Silverball,
You still keep avoiding the questions!!! What have you done that would take you five hours to fix? Seems an awful long time and must of had some serious problems for you to have spent that long and still not fixed it. For a technician, faulty motor diagnosis does not take long time to work out and for the supposeably faulty board, you AMD agent in Melbourne would of been able to sort that one out for you. Perhaps you should try contacting him, that would be the courteous thing to do if all these problems are happening to your games. Thats unless you railroaded them in, which in turn would leave you no warranty on your games and totally explain why your games are not working here in Australia properly. Would also love to see Gary Sterns reply to you when you get it back from him. And he will reply. If he doesnt, be sure to send me your build model numbers and serial numbers of the games and I will definately get the right answers for you.
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Just unboxed my acdc pro and the cannon is not firing when fire button pressed? Any one else had this problem?
Apart from this small prob machine is awesome, very well packaged, mint condition, full credit to Stern, wife and kids all love this game, this game is 100% keeper in my personal collection.
Had this problem on 1 of my machines. Check the Tan/white Green/yellow connector in the back of the cabinet. Mine was unplugged, this should have fixed it but found a broken wire as well in the back box loom.
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Pete,
My PRO headbox has 4 x very very small pre-drilled holes in the top of the headbox which ARE the exact screw positions for the tournament topper IF u want to add one.
Prince,
I had to wash the dishs today for the first time in 14 years, not because I have been playing the AC/DC pinball, but more like because I spent around$6300 (Pro plus shaker motor plus delivery) and the wife would have liked to buy a new car instead of "all these bloody pinball machines all over the bloody house routine". %.% %.% So I washed all the dishs to get in the good books (for 5 minutes anyway) @.@
Silverball,
That is not good about having 2 x machines in a row with issues. The chances of that happening must be 1 million to 1. I dont understand how those machines passed the quality control burn in tests which would normally pick up that stuff instantly. It would be good to hear later what you have found and any feedback would be appreciated by other AC/DC owners.
HAS ANYONE HEARD of anyone else having any issues ? !@#
mine seems ok, although at the very top of the playfield were it spells A X E the A bulb is blue and the X and E is white, i don't think they should be different, also there are 3 bulbs in a clear window just under the A X E one doesn't work, i had a look under the playfield, and there not bulbs there like litte electronic boards way over my head.
Mines the same in that clear window near the bumpers there's 3 flashers in the clear window now since the code update the top flasher of the 3 now doesn't work why? Also my apron flashers don't flash do anyone else's flash?
Peter
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SB, I am glad u responded so others on here know whats going on. It all helps anyone who has bought a AC/DC.
It should all work out then if a person is onto it. Thats good news. And yes, it would be annoying to have faults.
Hope its all sorted out quickly for you so u can enjoy what u have paid good money for and enjoy the machines with lots of fun games. ^^^
Pete,
check the list of gamecode stuff n see if the lights are a part of the update or not ?
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Looks like your pinball collection is in safe hands cavey.
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My apron flashers only ever flash in test mode.
I'm hoping one of there updates makes the flashers behind the lightning bolts flash when you hit the targets
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My apron flashers only ever flash in test mode.
I'm hoping one of there updates makes the flashers behind the lightning bolts flash when you hit the targets
It's not just me then lol same here with the lightning bolt globes maybe an update as you say , but since they put metal behind the lightning bolt plastic to stop then breaking I suppose there's no need to have flashers?
Peter
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[/quote]Keep avoiding what questions,I am not on this forum every minute of the day.
I work full time in the industry as a tech/ service manager and unbox most new Sterns before sending to our customers because most have faults from the factory. I have contacted my local distributor,I bought them through him and he is going to handle the situation(a nice guy). I sent a letter of disappointment to Stern,I dont blame the Aussie distrubutor for the faults I have,they didnt build the machines.
I like others have been waiting for this pin to arrive and of course it is disappointing to open and have 2 pins with varies factory faults.
Cavey,I will not take 2 new machines back to the distributor,high risk of scratching/damaging.
About 5 hours was spent fault finding,adjusting and diagnosing faults and giving information to the distributor so he knows what faulty parts to send. I have done nothing to void warranty,no assmeblies,boards or parts removed. I will report back with the final outcome when all is good,meanwhile I wait patiently.
Same here I dont want to do a playfield swap as this will be probably encounter extra sctratches and damage which will make the whole exercise worse.
Just want a spare playfield - cheaper option for Stern better for me
Just to let other Le owners of issues :
1> Cannon ball jam fixed - read previous post for method
2> Bell opto stop working - failed transitor on opto board after 90 games - fixed by Leo distributor within the week!
3> Playfield imperfection - in progress see previous post for pic
4> Special Stern hologram has wrong no.536 instead of no.83
2/4 fixed
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My apron flashers only ever flash in test mode.
I'm hoping one of there updates makes the flashers behind the lightning bolts flash when you hit the targets
It's not just me then lol same here with the lightning bolt globes maybe an update as you say , but since they put metal behind the lightning bolt plastic to stop then breaking I suppose there's no need to have flashers?
Peter
On the PRO model, when u hit the lightning bolt targets, its the round blue playfield light which flashs. I believe the stand up lightning bolt 555 bulbs only flash in certain modes, and i find that if i hit all 3 targets during a mode, thats when they all flash, as well as during other modes.
I am not sure they are even meant to flash individually when u hit the targets. Even on the previous software they did not flash when u hit a target.
Someone will have to ask Stern via AMD service Department if this is correct or not.
I just worked out why Stern sells the first batches of machines to the overseas markets instead of to the USA first.lol It gets us to be the test guinea pigs so we get it all sorted before the USA clients get the perfect machines with all the bugs fixed.lol Might be true. @.@
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Looks like your pinball collection is in safe hands cavey.
Thanks for that. He will inherit the collection so he is getting in good practice already. He only just turned 2 and knows how to start all the machines and play a game. Very cute.
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I know there are a couple of members on this forum who work for agents/resellers of Stern pins.
Word in the US from an authorised agent/distributor I know, is that any agent/distributor who put in an order for an ACDC LE version and got one was also "encouraged" (read forced) to order a Premium version on a 1:1 basis in order to boost the numbers.
Without even touching on the legality/morality of this, it would be interesting to know for a fact if there were similar arrangements in place here.
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I know there are a couple of members on this forum who work for agents/resellers of Stern pins.
Word in the US from an authorised agent/distributor I know, is that any agent/distributor who put in an order for an ACDC LE version and got one was also "encouraged" (read forced) to order a Premium version on a 1:1 basis in order to boost the numbers.
Without even touching on the legality/morality of this, it would be interesting to know for a fact if there similar arrangements in place here.
I was also told that from Aussie distributors if they ordered a LE they also had to order a Pro or premium.
Peter
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My apron flashers only ever flash in test mode.
I'm hoping one of there updates makes the flashers behind the lightning bolts flash when you hit the targets
It's not just me then lol same here with the lightning bolt globes maybe an update as you say , but since they put metal behind the lightning bolt plastic to stop then breaking I suppose there's no need to have flashers?
Peter
On the PRO model, when u hit the lightning bolt targets, its the round blue playfield light which flashs. I believe the stand up lightning bolt 555 bulbs only flash in certain modes, and i find that if i hit all 3 targets during a mode, thats when they all flash, as well as during other modes.
I am not sure they are even meant to flash individually when u hit the targets. Even on the previous software they did not flash when u hit a target.
Someone will have to ask Stern via AMD service Department if this is correct or not.
I just worked out why Stern sells the first batches of machines to the overseas markets instead of to the USA first.lol It gets us to be the test guinea pigs so we get it all sorted before the USA clients get the perfect machines with all the bugs fixed.lol Might be true. @.@
Because the Lighting bolts have the white light stuff on the back like a translight, they where originally meant to have a light source behind them but when they found a air ball would smash the lightning bolt they fitted metal brackets behind them and covered the white light stuff so now the metal blocks the light from the globes, so they disabled the light hence they don't come on if that makes sense :D
Peter
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I want them to flash....... I also have a few ideas of ways to improve the look of the game if it works out I'll report back
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The bulbs on my PRO machine definately DO flash behind the lightning bolts, just not everytime a target is hit, but after all targets are hit or in some modes. Must be different on the LE.
ALSO, i just played the machine and during the THUNDERSTRUCK SONG, everytime u hit the lightning bolt targets the lights flash ! hope it helps.
Whats the highest score you guys have got on the LE so far ? !@# !@#
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47million is my highest my son had 59 million
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The bulbs on my PRO machine definately DO flash behind the lightning bolts, just not everytime a target is hit, but after all targets are hit or in some modes. Must be different on the LE.
ALSO, i just played the machine and during the THUNDERSTRUCK SONG, everytime u hit the lightning bolt targets the lights flash ! hope it helps.
Whats the highest score you guys have got on the LE so far ? !@# !@#
Just checked mine during thunderstruck they don't flash oh and during multiball mine loaded 2 balls in the canon WTF and it doesn't like that because the canon can't move with two balls loaded so instead of letting the canon move when jammed as the 2nd ball was up against the ramp I turned game off and took the glass off and grabbed the balls I wonder why it did that? having said that I did shoot to balls up the canon ramp very close together ..
P:S-my highest is 110 million and my son has 131 million
Peter
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Update on FIRE Button problem
2 minute fix, just adjusted the leaf switch, the lock-down bars have a push button switch, just like Bally's Black Rose
Cannon now works 100% Easy fix, AC DC Rules.............. $#$
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Scoring on the PRO with the 1.4 version software must be alot harder than the LE game. Its often hard to get over 30 to 35 million points.
I played apx 20 games in a row today, and the machine just kicked my ass everytime. @.@
After watching the STERN games rules videos, and understanding about half to three quarters of what i need to, in order to get bigger scores, its just so fast and really is challenging. Nothing easy about the AC/DC Pro. Enjoyable, but it jogs flogs u. Always leaves me thinking "You bastard".lol
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Scoring on the PRO with the 1.4 version software must be alot harder than the LE game. Its often hard to get over 30 to 35 million points.
I played apx 20 games in a row today, and the machine just kicked my ass everytime. @.@
After watching the STERN games rules videos, and understanding about half to three quarters of what i need to, in order to get bigger scores, its just so fast and really is challenging. Nothing easy about the AC/DC Pro. Enjoyable, but it jogs flogs u. Always leaves me thinking "You bastard".lol
Long winded way of saying your crap........
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Crappy scores or Crappy player , i think a bit of both. :D :D
Yep, could be it.lol %.% %.% %.% %.%
I need more people on here with PRO machines so i can compare scores. I am only playing 3 ball also. &&
I think I need to add more bourban n coke, and lots of it to get a higher score. %.% %.%
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Well if an average score of 40mil makes him crap then I'm not sure there is a name for how badly I suck my average score is lucky to break 10m my 40million was a one off fluke %.%
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Has anyone else had the upper capture hole slam the ball out and down the right loop? Normally just give it a love tap into the lanes but twice now it's slammed it out the right loop. It must be part of the game as the gate opens I'm guessing
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Has anyone else had the upper capture hole slam the ball out and down the right loop? Normally just give it a love tap into the lanes but twice now it's slammed it out the right loop. It must be part of the game as the gate opens I'm guessing
Yes Daniel it's happened to me twice and how fast does the ball come down lol, wait till it holds two balls in the canon
Peter
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Yeah absolutely smashes it back at the flippers. Two balls in the cannon I'm lucky to get a flip with multiball lol
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Has anyone else had the upper capture hole slam the ball out and down the right loop? Normally just give it a love tap into the lanes but twice now it's slammed it out the right loop. It must be part of the game as the gate opens I'm guessing
you can pick up a skill shot off the playfield when that happens, high risk, big rewards
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Skill shot shit in lucky if I'm quick enough with the flippers lol
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AC/DC is one friggin fast game. One of the fastest dmd machines I have ever played.
If u guys think the LE is fast, give a PRO a go. I got a sore neck trying to track the ball.lol %.% %.% %.%
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The AC DC Pro is FAST, no limited numbers, no mini playfield, no band animation, no model train, no led's, just good fun to thrash
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I'll make a video of the band animation gives me a laugh everytime they dance
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Has anyone else had the upper capture hole slam the ball out and down the right loop? Normally just give it a love tap into the lanes but twice now it's slammed it out the right loop. It must be part of the game as the gate opens I'm guessing
you can pick up a skill shot off the playfield when that happens, high risk, big rewards
Which skill shots that? I thought it was that little flap/gate opening when it shouldnt lol
Peter
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Fortunately the slings are not as trigger happy as on SRs earlier Williams machines such as BK or FP. This allows for better ball control closer to the flippers with less chance of out lane drains. Shots to the ramps and bell need to be clean and precise and nudging this machine is important to get the right bounce coming down from the thumpers.
I find that I get consistently better scores when on my own. The kids stand next to the machine and the ball almost becomes possessed and gravitates straight for the guts. ACDC requires 100% focus and concentration.
I thoroughly enjoy the multi ball on this machine - good flow of all balls and easy to keep in play for a length of time.
Consistently average 38 to 60 million but on several occasions failed to crack 20 million. When you are on a roll, this machine rocks but it can also bite you big time.
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Fortunately the slings are not as trigger happy as on SRs earlier Williams machines such as BK or FP. This allows for better ball control closer to the flippers with less chance of out lane drains. Shots to the ramps and bell need to be clean and precise and nudging this machine is important to get the right bounce coming down from the thumpers.
I find that I get consistently better scores when on my own. The kids stand next to the machine and the ball almost becomes possessed and gravitates straight for the guts. ACDC requires 100% focus and concentration.
I thoroughly enjoy the multi ball on this machine - good flow of all balls and easy to keep in play for a length of time.
Consistently average 38 to 60 million but on several occasions failed to crack 20 million. When you are on a roll, this machine rocks but it can also bite you big time.
Perfectly said. Spot on. *%* *%*
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FOR ANYONE BUYING A AC/DC PRO
If u look at the underside of the playfield, basically the bottom left corner of the underside of the playfield where you would put your left hand to lift the playfield, u will find a small white sticker. On that small white sticker you will find the machines production number (not serial number but game production number) My PRO was machine number 393, my mates was 492.
Its a good way for any PRO owners to know what number of machine theres was coming down the production line. If you buy a PRO and dont mind sharing what production number your game is, feel free to post on here. I am assuming the next batch to hit Australia will be in the 600 or 700 range, or even later than that. I know someone who has 673 so Stern might be well on its way to producing 1000 plus PRO models. ^^^
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Interesting observation Cavey.
I just checked BIBLE under play field of my #056. One small sticker has C7-LE 50 in very small font.
One larger sticker on side of play field near the ball drain has "C7-00 Grinder LE Main * # 104 of 620".
I assume this is the number of LE/Premium play fields comprising of 200 LTBR, 300 BIB and 120 Premium. My #056 BIB was the 104th down this production run.
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Excellent that you found those stickers. You can get alot of information from playfield stickers or ink stamps that were done at factory, and in most cases, they have never been viewed by anyone unless u point out to an owner that they exsist.
I am a HUGE fan of studying every inch of a pinball machine (espescially every bit of the playfields side, base and any and everywhere that a sticker or a ink stamp could be placed/hidden). Even tags on wiring harnesses show interesting info as well.
You get to find out -
*playfield number you have out of say a run of 1100 etc. You sometimes find the playfield was produced 4 months before a machine was made, or even only a week before the machine was on the production line.
*You find what machine number you have, example 2453 out of 2500.
*exact date the pinball was made.
*persons name who signed off on machine
*sometimes date produced/made versus date shipped (can show overstock or understock)
*country of destination
*playfield version. prototype vs std, versus updated version with any changes etc
Just a batch of interesting items. Some people wont find it interesting, but it tells a story about the machine. Sort of its hidden DNA/personality.lol so to speak. I found one of my machines was originally delivered to China from the sticker/ink print investigating. (and many other surprises about alot of my other machines).
Look all over your ACDC machines and learn a bit more about your machine. A bit of fun learning some stuff. ^^^
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Agree! Every bit of marking or info tells a story.
I picked up these filled drill holes a few days ago in the back box. I wonder if this was a decision not to have an additional board or simply a mistake where the bottom board had to be moved to the left? Could you check the PRO; I assume there is no difference other than the back glass / translite.
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Did any new AC DC Pinball owner get a manual with there game??
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I got a manual with my game but my mate didn't get one with his limited edition
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Did any new AC DC Pinball owner get a manual with there game??
I did and a very healthy goodie bag
Peter
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Me too $#$
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Did any new AC DC Pinball owner get a manual with there game??
I did and a very healthy goodie bag
Peter
Me too, although all those silly little plastics with a hole in them ruined my spare sling shot plastics, as they were stuck together and when i tried to separate them they pulled the print off
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I did and a very healthy goodie bag
Peter
[/quote]Me too, although all those silly little plastics with a hole in them ruined my spare sling shot plastics, as they were stuck together and when i tried to separate them they pulled the print off
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Same here they were stuck together and ruined half of the plastics ! Still waiting for an answer from AMD on playfield!!
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Mine where stuck together as well so I also stuffed a sling shit plastic lol
Peter
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I just left all mine attached to the inside of the cabinet
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Curious to know if anyone has some knowledge of the play field art. Who are the lucky 3 fans next to the Angus spinner?
I wonder if they are aware that they are in collector's homes all around the world.
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How to unpack and set up ACDC. Just found this video. Sounds like they are from the UK. Nice video.
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Great video. He has some nice machines as well. It looks like he stopped to check all bolts were tight on everything. Thanks for the video Ivo . ^^^
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Curious to know if anyone has some knowledge of the play field art. Who are the lucky 3 fans next to the Angus spinner?
I wonder if they are aware that they are in collector's homes all around the world.
Might be the daughters of one of the band members ? (If they have any daughters ?) !@#
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Cool video is it just me or does whole lotta rossie sound like he'd sucked helium while singing?
Peter
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Nah, that was Bon Scott at his best after a one night stand with a big woman, Rosie. Apparently she is still around.
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I always liked Bon Scotts voice much better than Brian Johnsons.
Bon was so small, its hard to imagine him climbing ontop of a huge naked woman. @.@ %.% %.% or squashed underneath. ^&^
I like to play Bon's songs on the pinball machine as well. Very cool cranked right up. I now often watch his video clips. What a legend of a bloke.
Small guy, massive heart. Doesnt get better. No wonder the band are still proud of him to this day.
Bon Scott n pinball were made for each other. ^^^
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I always liked Bon Scotts voice much better than Brian Johnsons.
Bon was so small, its hard to imagine him climbing ontop of a huge naked woman. @.@ %.% %.% or squashed underneath. ^&^
I like to play Bon's songs on the pinball machine as well. Very cool cranked right up. I now often watch his video clips. What a legend of a bloke.
Small guy, massive heart. Doesnt get better. No wonder the band are still proud of him to this day.
Bon Scott n pinball were made for each other. ^^^
Nicely put; I have many fond memories of Bon before and during ACDC and prior to his highway ride. Shame that a small memento was not put somewhere in the machine. I might give some thought and place something into my BIBLE for such an iconic legend.
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Has anyone unpacked a LTBR? I have seen Pros, Prems and BIBs but no LTBRs except for the 2 at the Texas launch. Strange.....where are the LTBRLEs?!?!
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The next containers are due in Australia in a few weeks. Sure to be some in there.
I think most aussie buyers went for a Back in Black, but the LTBRock looks very very nice. Love the colour combo of the LTBR. ^^^
Hoping someone will post a photo or video of there new toy.
I think Joe has alot of LTBRocks in his containers. ^^^
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Nah, that was Bon Scott at his best after a one night stand with a big woman, Rosie. Apparently she is still around.
I never relised it was Bon how many songs are his voice on AC/DC
Peter
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Bon is on 5 songs: HTH, WLR, TNT, HAABPTB and LTBR. Goes to show what a charismatic man he was; nearly half the songs in a quarter of the time.
IMHO, Brian strains to belt out the highs and grits the lows; Bon's words came out as smooth as honey.
Whatever the opinion, Brian carries the flag with the boys and may Bon RIP.
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One guy in Geelong has a LTBRLE but not sure if he is opening it ?
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The AC/DC band itself must have got a LE each surely ? which did they pick, a BIB LE or a LTBRock ?
And how many ""un-numbered"" LE BIB or LTBRocks made their way to Stern employee houses. Surely Stern would have made an extra number of ""special"" LE's for special people in the music industry/or Stern important peoples or even long term companies that supply Stern with important stuff like playfields/computer boards etc.
Getting ya hands on a ""un numbered"" machine would be nice, the secret squirrell version. %.% %.% *)*
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The AC/DC band itself must have got a LE each surely ? which did they pick, a BIB LE or a LTBRock ?
And how many ""un-numbered"" LE BIB or LTBRocks made their way to Stern employee houses. Surely Stern would have made an extra number of ""special"" LE's for special people in the music industry/or Stern important peoples or even long term companies that supply Stern with important stuff like playfields/computer boards etc.
Getting ya hands on a ""un numbered"" machine would be nice, the secret squirrell version. %.% %.% *)*
Yes nice, athough not authentic.
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I popped into Bumper Action today to have a look at their new showroom (very very impressive) and had a good game of the PRO. Was the first time I've played ACDC and it plays differently from previous Sterns. I was quite impressed. I'll hopefully have a game on a members BIB LE or LTBR LE soon to compare.
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I popped into Bumper Action today to have a look at their new showroom (very very impressive) and had a good game of the PRO. Was the first time I've played ACDC and it plays differently from previous Sterns. I was quite impressed. I'll hopefully have a game on a members BIB LE or LTBR LE soon to compare.
Thats great feedback Marty.
It will be good to get your feedback when you have played both.
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Got it home, now just cant get it of the Hilux.Got to wait for someone to come home. Frustrated ^&^ :D :D :D :D
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Has anyone unpacked a LTBR? I have seen Pros, Prems and BIBs but no LTBRs except for the 2 at the Texas launch. Strange.....where are the LTBRLEs?!?!
No packing shots, just these
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Aussie delivered number 78 LTB Rock, very nice.
(power point is Aust and I zoomed in for the machine number)
Are u happy with the machine matey ? and CONGRATS on your purchase ^^^
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Yes Cavey,I think its sensational
The more I play it ,the better it gets
I think its the best looking and sounding pin,ever
The game play is super fast and very very entertaining
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Yes Cavey,I think its sensational
The more I play it ,the better it gets
I think its the best looking and sounding pin,ever
The game play is super fast and very very entertaining
It doesnt get better than that then. Excellent. Glad u are happy.
R U happy with the build quality, no hassles or dings or faults, everything spot on ? Machine gleaming brand new ? etc.
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MORE GAMECODE AVAILABLE AT STERN for the PRO model.
Original was 1.25 which was replaced by 1.4, but version 1.5 added today for PRO model.
Check the STERN site again for LE and PREMIUM models guys. ^^^ ^^^
Note - easiest way to check for the gamecode version, is to look firstly at the "Read Me" file which shows the software version. Then, if its a higher number then your current version, then go to the download file and ofcouse copy.
1.5 is the latest file on the LE/Premium page as of tonight 3rd/May.
ALSO - I HAVE ADDED A QUICK GUIDE TO DO A GAMECODE UPDATE - VERY EASY
1. remove backglass
2. switch dipswitch 8 to the on position on computer board (board without red led lights)
3. press and hold in white button for 4 seconds. button located on same computer board
4. open coindoor
5. place USB stick into USB slot on same computer board described above
5. press enter on coindoor buttons (far right button)
6. follow prompts on dot matrix
7. when dotmatrix tells u download is finished, remove USB stick
8. switch dipswitch number 8 back to off position
9. backglass gets put back on
10. turn machine off to reboot game, then u will see gamecode has been upgraded by viewing dotmatrix when u turn back on
Hope it helps. ^^^
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Good stuff can't wait for a code to get the apron flashers working
Peter
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The quality is great
Cant fault it,really
I,ve read how some members have had trouble
Not me,added some bling balls and havent looked back
I originally ordered a BIBLE,there was a mess up and I was asked if I wanted a LTBR ,instead
Leo,did offer to try to get an operater to swap,however,I decided I liked the LTBR better @@*
Really hope everyone who has had trouble, gets its sorted
This is one amazing game to play
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Good stuff can't wait for a code to get the apron flashers working
Peter
I emailed Stern about that
dont think they were aware of it
Does your flasher behind the moving band work,Peter?
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SOFTWARE UPGRADE TO 1.5 FROM 1.4 ON THE PRO - REPORT
Well I did the 2nd gamecode update tonight, and again, what a difference. The 1.5 version on the Pro is definately very worthwhile.
I noticed instantly that the dot matrix annimations were much better, and more of them. Alot I had never seen before.
The scoring is better, and the game again, has been improved.
Here is a actual list of the extra gamecode added, so definately do the extra 1.5 version of gamecode download which appeared tonight on the Stern site if u have a AC/DC PRO.
V1.5 - April 27, 2012
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- Completing all of the white note arrow shots during a song now adds 2.5M
to the song jackpot. This can be done any number of times.
- Timers are now paused when the player is choosing a song. (This fixes the
issue of the ball saver timing down at the start of a new ball when the
player plunges the ball into the jukebox and takes some time picking a new
song.)
- Added artwork for the start of "Hells Bells".
- Added a sound for tilt.
- All white note arrow shots completed during a song records 3 units of
permanent progress (one time, adjustable), such that completing notes
and changing songs will continually lock in higher scores for new songs.
- Super loops no longer has any effect on whether the right control gate
causes the ball to loop around, so if "Whole Lotta Rosie" or "You Shook
Me All Night Long" are running, the ball will go into the pop bumpers.
- Added jackpot information to the super loops award display effect.
- Added sounds for "Let There Be Rock".
- Cannon targets are now displayed in order of increasing score.
- Added song jackpot to tour multiball.
- Changed the lamp effect for a spinner hit during "War Machine".
- Added a sound for the War Machine bay doors opening.
- Lowered spinner scores.
- Changed bell target hit artwork. The new art includes the AC/DC logo on
the bell.
- Fixed an issue with transitioning from the shooter groove music to the
main play music. The main play music would cut off the very beginning
of the shooter groove music if the ball was on the playfield during
the first bar of the shooter groove music.
- Added the car dip animation to the bumper hits for "You Shook Me All
Night Long". This fixes the bad rendering of the girls over the car on
frames #3, #4, and #5.
- Added a sound for hitting the T.N.T. targets during T.N.T.
- Added more information to song collect display effects when the song is
selected.
- Fixed mode start text (vertical centering, it was off by 1 pixel).
- Added T.N.T. start dots.
- Cleaned up cannon lamp effects.
- Added art to the "Bump 'N' Win" award display effect.
- Added an animation for the start of "You Shook Me All Night Long".
- Fixed up some mode key sounds.
- Lowered the left ramp score during Rock N Roll Train.
- Changed bonus. The current formula is:
(25K * number of songs lit
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50K * number of songs played, +50K more if all white note shots for the
song were completed)
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bonus multiplier
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(3 if triple bonus, 2 if double bonus).
- Added sounds for skill shot, super skill shot, and highway to hell start.
- Added art for "Let There Be Rock".
There will be more updates for gamecode I would imagine for the next 3 or 4 months so keep looking at the Stern site for the gamecode upgrades.
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No the flasher behind the band doesn't work either as well as the apron flasher - who do we email to advise them of ideas? We should also start a thread with names and which you have and numbers ??
Peter
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Thanks for the updates
Im still having heaps of fun running v 1.25
Hey given Stern have just released v 1.5 will i have to install v1.4 first??? ^&^ !@#
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Thanks for the updates
Im still having heaps of fun running v 1.25
Hey given Stern have just released v 1.5 will i have to install v1.4 first??? ^&^ !@#
NO. go straight to version 1.5 which includes everything. ^^^
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No the flasher behind the band doesn't work either as well as the apron flasher - who do we email to advise them of ideas? We should also start a thread with names and which you have and numbers ??
Peter
I emailed Steve R. and Stern and asked them both
will let you know
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Gee the LTBR does look nice I like the side art! Well done to all for buying some very nice games I'm so glad I bought a BIB LE
Peter
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The LTBR sideart is the same as the premium and pro isn't it?
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agree BIB is unique LBTR has same decals as pro/premium
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If I win the 70million on Tuesday night lotto I'll have one of each plus a AMG Merc
Peter
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I got this reply from Steve Ritchie
I am impressed he responds so quickly
Hi Rich,
Thanks for the kind words. I am very glad you are happy with your machine. Lyman will publish rules for the game when he is finished with the code, which will probably be a couple months from now. You may find that Pinball News has them all before Lyman does, but I am not sure they have anything for the LE's and Premiums.
I know that many things in the game do not "work" yet but they will when the code is done. Your game isn't broken! It needs code to make the things that you mention work. Lyman is working as fast as he can to get the code written, but AC/DC has been like making 2 games at once for both of us. The LE has so much more than the Pro, and management wanted the Pros to be built first.
Your blue train LED should come on when you make the left ramp shot. If it doesn't, check to see if all the connections are good. There is a connector for the train on the bottom of the playfield.
I started a topper, but I am not sure they would let me finish and build it on my own, but maybe...Please be patient. More iterations of code will be issued soon.
Thanks
Steve Ritchie
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I got this reply from Steve Ritchie
I am impressed he responds so quickly
Hi Rich,
Thanks for the kind words. I am very glad you are happy with your machine. Lyman will publish rules for the game when he is finished with the code, which will probably be a couple months from now. You may find that Pinball News has them all before Lyman does, but I am not sure they have anything for the LE's and Premiums.
I know that many things in the game do not "work" yet but they will when the code is done. Your game isn't broken! It needs code to make the things that you mention work. Lyman is working as fast as he can to get the code written, but AC/DC has been like making 2 games at once for both of us. The LE has so much more than the Pro, and management wanted the Pros to be built first.
Your blue train LED should come on when you make the left ramp shot. If it doesn't, check to see if all the connections are good. There is a connector for the train on the bottom of the playfield.
I started a topper, but I am not sure they would let me finish and build it on my own, but maybe...Please be patient. More iterations of code will be issued soon.
Thanks
Steve Ritchie
Nice email so hopefully apron flashers and train LED work with more code and my train connector is fine
Peter
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Got it home, now just cant get it of the Hilux.Got to wait for someone to come home. Frustrated ^&^ :D :D :D :D
NICE
Thanks Mark
Got it home after its been at sitting at the depo for two days as was trying to pick it up with the wrong con note number #@#.Could of been playing it on Monday picked it up Thursday.
Couldn't get it off the ute on Thursday, so just had to look at it for a couple of hours and drink untill someone came home.
Finely got to play it last night and yes, i am inpressed.Been holding off playing the pro as didn't want to spoil the experience playing the bible for the first time and all i can say is WOW.The wife evens likes it which is even better because she doesnt no their is another machine coming as well %.%.This machine will be one of the better stern for sure and a lot better than the last couple i got.
One happy customer and thanks to PSPA ^^^
No faults yet, and cant find any scratches and dents, and it came with a manual.I hope all the other trouble that some people are having with their machines gets sorted.Great game indeed. ^^^ ^^^
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Well done Craig(Wonder) on your new ACDC machine. Glad its fun for all. Dont forget a video or some photos when u get a chance. ^^^
Also, well done to Mark C for also being part of a great deal. ^^^ ^^^
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REPORT FOR PRO OWNERS
After installing Stern's 2nd gamecode update (version 1.5), I can advise after playing a few dozen games that the machine is EVEN BETTER again than it was after the first gamecode update (1,25 to 1.4).
The audio has heaps more sounds everywhere during gameplay, but espescially after losing a ball when u scores are tallied. Heaps n heaps of extra really large n detailed dot matrix annimations.
Overall, a much better experience, and Steve Ritchie says there will be even more gamecode updates to come. Give the gamecode 1.5 version an upload cause its worth it in every way. ^^^
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Just had a few games with the volume set on 50 Awesome! although 3 cans helped set the mood.
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I have played mine in a week and the last time I did have a game the wife turned it on and started a two player game...
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This has to be the biggest post on APA .....Fark over 1000
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And almost 10 000 views
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Played the BIBLE on site at Sonix today. Great game! The pro did absolutely nothing for me but the LE was awesome, and i assume that is the case with all of them. BIBLE, LTBR and Premium.
The sound and lightshow had me rocking along with it, Found the ramps were nice and easy to hit and i enjoyed the lower playfield as a distraction. The bell and cannon were great also.
Tron LE (my personal favorite game) has got a reputation of having the best lightshow of any pinball, I think it may now have some competition. Choosing the song at the start looks absolutely amazing with the different colour LED's changing with every song.
I had no bias with this machine as i like AC/DC but i am not a huge fan. I have been following this from the start and it was never a machine i thought i would buy as the theme was not for me. After playing one i wish i could afford one as it was great (although a Tron LE would be first) and i would be happy with a premium as i believe it has the exact same features just not the bling, plus i like the premium backglass the best.
Plus how great are Steve Richie's taunts! "Thank you, Bye Bye" cracked me up at the end of the game.
To everyone that bought one i want to say i wish i was you! Enjoy your machines guys, Feel free to invite me round anytime. ^^^
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Glad you like it
It certainly grows on you
The more I play it ,the better it gets
This is one great pin { LTBR LE}
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This has to be the biggest post on APA .....Fark over 1000
and almost 10 000 views
We might have more videos and more photos to come from other owners hopefully.
This AC/DC post shld reach 10,000 views and hopefully become a record for AP. More to contribute yet. Just wait til I launch the AC/DC naked ladies calender with the Gold Coast models. && ^^^
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I would buy a acdc except for the fact that I am sane and not prone to peer pressure.
+ the fact it is pretty lame for a pin imo.
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I would buy a acdc except for the fact that I am sane and not prone to peer pressure.
+ the fact it is pretty lame for a pin imo.
I am maybe abit biast but I've played most modern stern games and I reckon AC/DC ticks all the boxes it's fast fun great sound awesome theme with the best flow by far! Most people who play it love it as well so to me money well spent and at no time have I had second thoughts
Peter
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I would buy a acdc except for the fact that I am sane and not prone to peer pressure.
+ the fact it is pretty lame for a pin imo.
I am maybe abit biast but I've played most modern stern games and I reckon AC/DC ticks all the boxes it's fast fun great sound awesome theme with the best flow by far! Most people who play it love it do to me money well spent and at no time have I had second thoughts
Peter
Fan pin only....all day long!!!
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This has to be the biggest post on APA .....Fark over 1000
what is APA ? lol
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I would buy a acdc except for the fact that I am sane and not prone to peer pressure.
+ the fact it is pretty lame for a pin imo.
I think u will find that all the people who bought a AC/DC pinball are ALL grown men, didnt get peer pressured by anyone, and are all very sane and have found the machine to be anything but lame.
Also its going to be, if it isnt already, one of the best pinball machines made for alot of reasons , but the most common reason is that people like the theme and like the music, and like the combination of all that put together into a fun pinball.
No one has to bag the pinball or AC/DC pinball owners decisions anymore. We get the fact that some dont like it. We dont need to be told one hundred times.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
Here is a movie again, which I find very interesting and fun to watch.
Far from lame, I wasnt peer pressured into posting it or watching it, and all the people on the video are sane as well. Probably. ^^^
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I always said if they built one I'd buy it so I did and it's exactly like all my other games!! Does t even get turned on LoL
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I would buy a acdc except for the fact that I am sane and not prone to peer pressure.
+ the fact it is pretty lame for a pin imo.
Who Cares <.>
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No peer group here to $#$ love the band love pinball and I love exciting fast games
Peter
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Had about 10 mates try out the BIBLE today.
General comments were: Awesome, unbelievable, best pinny ever, nice flow and feel, best lighting and sound and "blast it's fast".
Told them that some guy called the machine 'lame' and I won't repeat what they said.
"Lucky owners" was the general concensus.
The machine is surviving the play very well. Love it!
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I would buy a acdc except for the fact that I am sane and not prone to peer pressure.
+ the fact it is pretty lame for a pin imo.
I think u will find that all the people who bought a AC/DC pinball are ALL grown men, didnt get peer pressured by anyone, and are all very sane and have found the machine to be anything but lame.
Also its going to be, if it isnt already, one of the best pinball machines made for alot of reasons , but the most common reason is that people like the theme and like the music, and like the combination of all that put together into a fun pinball.
No one has to bag the pinball or AC/DC pinball owners decisions anymore. We get the fact that some dont like it. We dont need to be told one hundred times.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
BECAUSE I LOVE MY AC/DC MACHINE, EVEN MORE N MORE N MORE WHEN SOMEONE TELLS ME ITS LAME.
Here is a movie again, which I find very interesting and fun to watch.
Far from lame, I wasnt peer pressured into posting it or watching it, and all the people on the video are sane as well. Probably. ^^^
GO Hard Angus!
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FOR PRO OWNERS - HAVE A LOOK AT YOUR MACHINE
On the first 6 or so machines that came out to Australia, I am sure they had the 3 x inserts in the playfield where the Angus face is. These appear to have been dropped altogether on later production models of the PRO . I have included a few photos of a machine that does have the inserts and the lights behind the inserts.(below)
My machine doesnt have those inserts or the wiring or lights for the Angus face inserts, but I would like to hear from other PRO owners and see if your machine has it or not. (click on the 3rd photo for it to enlarge to double the size etc).
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Yeah the one I played from the first batch into Aus in Feb had the lit inserts - check out the youtube vid I posted. I think it would be best without it as looks average.
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Have you spoke to Bruce ?
FOR PRO OWNERS - HAVE A LOOK AT YOUR MACHINE
On the first 6 or so machines that came out to Australia, I am sure they had the 3 x inserts in the playfield where the Angus face is. These appear to have been dropped altogether on later production models of the PRO . I have included a few photos of a machine that does have the inserts and the lights behind the inserts.(below)
My machine doesnt have those inserts or the wiring or lights for the Angus face inserts, but I would like to hear from other PRO owners and see if your machine has it or not. (click on the 3rd photo for it to enlarge to double the size etc).
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Hi Tony (ANT)
No, havent asked Bruce, no need to really cause I think it was redesigned without it ? I have to see if others have it/or dont have it. But I am definately thinking it was designed out of the game because in order to have a playfield without those 3 face inserts, the whole playfield would have to of been redesigned/changed.
It would have been nice if they had of stayed, but i think they must have taken them out on later production models for a good reason.
It doesnt worry me that they are gone, its not like I am asking for them etc, more just to point out that some lucky PRO owners may have scored this feature which definately sets their machine apart from the later production models.
Anyone with a PRO looked to see if u have the 3 x face inserts or not ? !@# !@#
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Just updated my AC/DC premium with the LE update and it's a far better game extra sounds extra animation and better game feel I'm not sure what's different but I didn't once get the urge to punch it %.%
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I would buy a acdc except for the fact that I am sane and not prone to peer pressure.
+ the fact it is pretty lame for a pin imo.
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Just updated my AC/DC premium with the LE update and it's a far better game extra sounds extra animation and better game feel I'm not sure what's different but I didn't once get the urge to punch it %.%
Great stuff Daniel looking forward to playing a few games mate.
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I am wondering WHAT or WHY there is different gamecode for the LE versus PREMIUM ? !@# !@# !@#
Glad it worked out Daniel. Glad u are having fun mate. Its not a easy game is it, not by any means. I am hearing all models are challenging to say the least.
Also, I am waiting for someone to TRY and upload the LE software to the PRO which might have BAD results.lol BUT I am sure someone is going to try it which will be interesting to see what/if anything very strange happens.
My next door neighbour came home today from the mines in the far noth of QLD. He came straight accross to play the AC/DC.First thing he said when he saw it was FRIGGIN UNREAL ! He played some games n instantly said I WANT ONE. So I am going to arrange for him to speak with AMD etc. He likes the PRO alot, and I showed him the PREMIUM on the computer and explained the differences and costs, but he is liking them BOTH.lol choices. choices.choices. He reckons one sited at the mining camp would make a motza of cash.
Another AC/DC fan. A very good way to finish off a weekend !
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Just finished a few hours on LTBR
This pin is fu#king fantastic
Kicks my arse,but keeps me coming back
Only been able to crack 105 Million
A lot to look forward to
Cant wait until more updates are available,it will be even better
Rock on
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One US forum stated a while ago that there was a difference in the LEs and Premium sound kHz and:
"So basically the code difference is the EQ sampling for the difference in kHz. After all the upgrades the frequency was taken from 20hz to 12 kHz. The LE's are gonna POUND."
I also vaguely recollect Steve saying a while back that they were going to do some additional LED lighting code for the LEs over the Premiums.
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Shaker would also require specific coding for the LEs.
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game code differences are very obvious between the two machines
hope the Pro doesnt get left in the dark like TRON, still a great game
but how hard is it to add an extra ball?? it is in the menu but doesn't
exist in the game. And those latest and greatest QR codes on TF LE
dont do anything, notice there is one on the apron of ACDC too..
no harm in trying to upload the LE code to the Pro, the machine is
either going to take it or not, give it a go and see what happens...
not to much i would think ()
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Loved the Steve Ritchie video.. a real goer with great energy and enthusiam.
Would love to play one some day - great looking machine with cracking tracks and even drop targets!
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Some back box lighting mods to complete the 'LE experience'.
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I also noticed these colour changing inserts in test mode a couple of days ago. I reckon there will be ACDC code upgrades for some time to come.
We are in for some pretty serious rule sets and gaming possibilities with the ACDC machine. Whoever said that coding changes for ACDC will be short-lived is seriously wrong.
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Nice work,Ivo
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The gamecode updates for the PRO have so far been excellent and many. The game was great to start with, now its even better.
From the emails I got from Stern, the gamecode changes for the Pro are done first, then additions for the LE are added to the same list etc, so the PRO shld keep getting the gamecode updates first. I cant see the Pro getting left behind. They are pumping out the gamecode updates regularly.
* Can u imagine how much more unreal/great all the AC/DC models will be in another 3 to 6 months with all the amazing work Lyman is doing for the gamecode. Is it should blow people away even more than it does now.
Replay, I can get multiball or a extra ball often on the PRO. Which gamecode was running on the Pro u tried getting extra ball on. I think that was the first version 1.25. I believe the extra ball has definately been fixed now. I have rewatched the games rule video a few times now to get a better idea of how to get the best out of the game, but I still have a long way to go before I will understand all the rules. I probably only understand about 30 percent so far. Its deep for sure.
Great videos Ivo. ^^^
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When there's an insert with a music note on it apposed to a word written on the insert like "multiball" they can change that insert to mean anything they like with code updates and then add color changing LED's and you have one hell of a game no need to click ya slippers to get this game going &&
Peter
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Again I managed to get 2 balls in the canon during mulitball anyone else done that and I had to turn machine off as I'm not sure if it will kick the balls out during ball search or fry the canon motor as it cant turn cause the second ball is jammed against the ramp!@#
Anyone else had this happen?
Peter
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Again I managed to get 2 balls in the canon during mulitball anyone else done that and I had to turn machine off as I'm not sure if it will kick the balls out during ball search or fry the canon motor as it cant turn cause the second ball is jammed against the ramp!@#
Anyone else had this happen?
Peter
yep, happened to me quite a few times now, when the cannon turns the other(2nd) ball
drops into the inlane, good result, no jamming at all, i would think that that is how it
is supposed to work
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Replay, I can get multiball or a extra ball often on the PRO. Which gamecode was running on the Pro u tried getting extra ball on. I think that was the first version 1.25. I believe the extra ball has definately been fixed now. I have rewatched the games rule video a few times now to get a better idea of how to get the best out of the game, but I still have a long way to go before I will understand all the rules. I probably only understand about 30 percent so far. Its deep for sure.
Great videos Ivo. ^^^
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i was having a whinge about the missing Extra Ball in Tron Pro, it's had 7
odd code updates and no extra ball, but it exists in the menu,
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Again I managed to get 2 balls in the canon during mulitball anyone else done that and I had to turn machine off as I'm not sure if it will kick the balls out during ball search or fry the canon motor as it cant turn cause the second ball is jammed against the ramp!@#
Anyone else had this happen?
Peter
yep, happened to me quite a few times now, when the cannon turns the other(2nd) ball
drops into the inlane, good result, no jamming at all, i would think that that is how it
is supposed to work
Cheers yeah I thought that's what it should do but my 2nd ball is a fair way in the canon to far to be push back towards the ramp when the canon turns I wonder why any ideas?
Peter
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IS everyone running the latest LE gamecode for their machines ? It might help ! !@#
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See what happens when there is a major release like ACDC in Australia.
Just an article from today's paper - lol
" A surprise bounce in retail sales and building approvals may reduce the likelihood of further interest rate cuts, economists say.Retail sales climbed 0.9 per cent in March, substantially higher than forecasts of an 0.2 per cent rise, data released by the Australian Bureau of Statistics on Monday showed."
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IS everyone running the latest LE gamecode for their machines ? It might help ! !@#
Yeah I am running the new code maybe my games to steep? I'll raise the front in the morning maybe that will help
Peter
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I'm told the 2 balls in the canon during multiball happens to nearly all AC/DC owners and most say once it figures out there's two in it it'll fire them back up the ramp so no need to panick lol
Peter
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Shit I'm lucky if I get one ball up the ramp lol
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BIBLE #021 found a home in Arizona (link to another forum below). So there were low sequence numbers for the USA market.
This dude has a cool games room with some nice pinnies.
The guys in this thread who played ACDC gave the thumbs up so I reckon that there are many more sales to be made by Stern.
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/twas-the-night-before-the-pinball-party-and-all-through-the-house
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OMG who else hates the skill shot noise on the new update like nails on a chalk board
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Nice Videos , what flasher kit did you go for ?
Some back box lighting mods to complete the 'LE experience'.
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I also noticed these colour changing inserts in test mode a couple of days ago. I reckon there will be ACDC code upgrades for some time to come.
We are in for some pretty serious rule sets and gaming possibilities with the ACDC machine. Whoever said that coding changes for ACDC will be short-lived is seriously wrong.
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I've just emailed a request for an update to stern.
Not sure if anyone else like the idea but worth asking
During attact mode use the flipper buttons to choose a song o the jukebox then the fire button to add it to the que and be played just like a proper jukebox.
Operator on and off options obviously
Anyone else thing this would be a cool option?
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Regarding the flasher kit, the blurb on YouTube states the following:
" Watch the backbox. Not the guys (can´t play pinball). Board is plug & play and coming soon in Europe and the United States! Check out: http://www.superfluxshop.de and http://pinballdecals.com "
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I've just emailed a request for an update to stern.
Not sure if anyone else like the idea but worth asking
During attact mode use the flipper buttons to choose a song o the jukebox then the fire button to add it to the que and be played just like a proper jukebox.
Operator on and off options obviously
Anyone else thing this would be a cool option?
Daniel, I asked for this 3 weeks ago, and UNFORTUNATELY the anser was "that we havent had audio attract mode since the Data East days and doubt we will again, but could look into it."
Maybe they might, but I aint holding my breath.lol
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Hopefully enough people nag they will do it
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Here is a cool Video for you AC-DC Pin Fans, with Steve Ritchie and Lyman Sheats.
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I've just emailed a request for an update to stern.
Not sure if anyone else like the idea but worth asking
During attact mode use the flipper buttons to choose a song o the jukebox then the fire button to add it to the que and be played just like a proper jukebox.
Operator on and off options obviously
Anyone else thing this would be a cool option?
I mentioned this to Norbet back in Feb and he liked the idea and was going to run it past Gary himself - even as a special hold the fire button for so long with another button to start. Gary must not have not liked the idea.
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I was thinking about the answer Stern gave me about not having audio attract mode on a machine since the data east days etc, its not correct, cause all Sega games had the audio attract mode on them with the stern/sega/whitestar boards etc, so the guy who emailed me back was definately incorrect.
Turning any of the acdc machines into a jukebox when not being played would be a killer of a idea but will they bother with so much else going on, with acdc still pumping down the production line and a few other releases coming in the next 3 or 4 months. They probably will do it etc, but it just might take a while etc.
Have any of Joes customers (kids just wanna have fun ) etc got their machines yet ? or hasnt the container arrived cause Joe was going to give us some photos of the container unloading.
Maybe RATBAG could fill us in as to the status please. ^^^
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Ok, looks like the WA guys have had xmas come early with all those beautiful machines arriving in Joes containers, beautiful.
Does everyone like the red on the Premium and LE models ? !@# !@#
I am seriously thinking about getting my legs, backbox hinges, siderails and lockdown bar powdercoated in fire engine red. This will make my Pro machine a PRO HYBRID of sorts. I can always powdercoat it back to standard black if i want to as well.
What would a PRO look like with the full on red treatment ? !@# !@# !@#
$#$ DECIDED I AM GOING FOR IT WITH THE RED TREATMENT. I will take all the black stuff to the powder coaters tomorrow. Shld have it all back withing 3 or 4 days and will add some photos. $#$
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Just put a PDI glass on my bible and looks awesome.Cant stop playing it and the miss love it ^^^.Still no faults and getting a bit worried that i havent had any yet #@#.
Have any nice mods come out for it yet.Looking at the light kit but that about it so far.
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Ok, looks like the WA guys have had xmas come early with all those beautiful machines arriving in Joes containers, beautiful.
Does everyone like the red on the Premium and LE models ? !@# !@#
I am seriously thinking about getting my legs, backbox hinges, siderails and lockdown bar powdercoated in fire engine red. This will make my Pro machine a PRO HYBRID of sorts. I can always powdercoat it back to standard black if i want to as well.
What would a PRO look like with the full on red treatment ? !@# !@# !@#
$#$ DECIDED I AM GOING FOR IT WITH THE RED TREATMENT. I will take all the black stuff to the powder coaters tomorrow. Shld have it all back withing 3 or 4 days and will add some photos. $#$
That LTBR looks ssssssssssssooooooooooo good. Is that pic from WA?
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YES. picture from WA container. Red looks sooo dam good. Will make my PRO look better I hope.
I am waiting on a phonecall for the final price to powdercoat everything RED. I am expecting a price of apx $80 tops for the lot.
Will know by tomorrow $ incase other PRO owners want to go RED with a LE look. ^^^
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Great news from Leo of Cashbox Amusements and AMD
New playfield will be sent out!
Wow! I can sleep better knowing I have another BIB playfield
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Anyone want to buy a ACDC for $12,500 ($3200 over the original price)
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AC-DC-LIMITED-EDITION-BACK-BLACK-PINBALL-MACHINE-NUMBER-90-/190674723184?pt=AU_CoinOp&hash=item2c65196170
I am not sure if its right for Stern dealers to profiteere from machines and sell them way over the normal retail ! (if a customer had bought it, and was reselling maybe, but a Stern dealer jacking the price doesnt seem right to me).
Anyway, anyone want to fork out $12,500 *.* *.* *.* *.* *.*
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probably not at the moment, but no doubt the time will come %$%
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Sounds like a lot, but if someone missed out and badly wants one, it may not be so bad.
Say the Aussie dollar goes back to 0.70 US in a few months time. Any thing that is imported will be more expensive so make the most of the current good times while you can. May be the idea of Stern setting up in Australia could be feasible and machines could be made much cheaper for export from Down Under.
All I know is that AC/DC came out at the right time and is a winner for years to come.
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Well what can I say but WOW!!!!!
Popped in to Mr Gorgar's place last night and checked out his BIBLE machine. Serious serious eye candy with game play to match.
Well done and congrats to all those who were brave enough to buy one of these machines sight unseen. A true classic and very collectible machine for sure.
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Just put a PDI glass on my bible and looks awesome.Cant stop playing it and the miss love it ^^^.Still no faults and getting a bit worried that i havent had any yet #@#.
Have any nice mods come out for it yet.Looking at the light kit but that about it so far.
What did the PDI glass cost,with shipping
Is it worth it?
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POWDERCOATING
I went down to the Powder coaters today to try n match the red on the legs/lockdown bar etc of the LE. It seems the fire engine red of the LE is a signal red powder coat over a white base coat which gives it a orangey/red fire engine red look.
May not be able to replicate identical colour and may have to get a slightly darker red, but still should look really good.
Just noticed, AC/DC THREAD HAS REACHED OVER 10,000 VIEWS WITH OVER 1000 REPLIES. Not a bad effort for AP. ^^^
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Electric red powdercoat from the Interpon range is red with slight orange undertone.
I did it to the legs on my AFM which has a red/orange cabinet colour scheme.
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Electric red powdercoat from the Interpon range is red with slight orange undertone.
I did it to the legs on my AFM which has a red/orange cabinet colour scheme.
thanks matey, much appreciated. We couldnt get a great match and the wife got the shits waiting in the car.lol !*!
so i had to cut the colour picking short but am going back tomorrow all guns blazing. The more i think about it, its a choice between going for a different red and having a one off or matching the LE red as close as I can. When u actually look at the red on the AC/DC cabinet, its a blood red, so the fire engine red is alittle orangey/bright but whatt ever the outcome is, it shld look really good.
Will post pics of the finished product. ^^^
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What did the PDI glass cost,with shipping
Is it worth it?
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If you plan on keeping it, you have to go the pdi glass.Wayne has some for sale, as i got mine from the USA some time ago.
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Yeah I thought I saw Wayne had it for $395.00
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Electric red powdercoat from the Interpon range is red with slight orange undertone.
I did it to the legs on my AFM which has a red/orange cabinet colour scheme.
thanks matey, much appreciated. We couldnt get a great match and the wife got the shits waiting in the car.lol !*!
so i had to cut the colour picking short but am going back tomorrow all guns blazing. The more i think about it, its a choice between going for a different red and having a one off or matching the LE red as close as I can. When u actually look at the red on the AC/DC cabinet, its a blood red, so the fire engine red is alittle orangey/bright but whatt ever the outcome is, it shld look really good.
Will post pics of the finished product. ^^^
Yeah just go for a red that suits the cabinet, don't worry about what the LE red is as no one will every know and you never know it may look better.
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Cavey, was checking out a couple of photos I took of the premium just down the road - I reckon if you picked a red similar to a red in the speaker centre on the cabinet so that it is a fraction lighter than the AC/DC logo if that is possible so the logo still pops otherwise the logo may get a little lost, if you know what I mean.
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very nice looking pin
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Got my LTBR on friday (#53). I love this game. Starting to get into the rules and strategy, cannot see myself getting bored of this one ^^^
Does anyone know what the Directors cut setting is?
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Got my LTBR on friday (#53). I love this game. Starting to get into the rules and strategy, cannot see myself getting bored of this one ^^^
Does anyone know what the Directors cut setting is?
Nice one Gav
Cant say Ive played any other pins,since my LTBR arrived
Enjoy $#$
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A friend of mine just purchased a pro model which will be sited at the pub in Mortlake and I noticed it had the lights under Angus head. So anyone live near Mortlake go hammer the shit out of it
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A friend of mine just purchased a pro model which will be sited at the pub in Mortlake and I noticed it had the lights under Angus head. So anyone live near Mortlake go hammer the shit out of it
This is a early protype machine, later models in the PRO production run had no inserts in the angus playfield area.
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I have been reeding this AC=DC thread for a while and bought myself a pro=acdc pinball after reading how good the model was. I didnt have the money to buy a limited model and waz to late anyhow so I bought the less expensive unit. I didnt get the shaker moter but will later when i can aford to spend more money. This is my first pinball and I was excited to buy one. I am really into stand up game cabinets and have some but this is my first pinball. I have been reeding the forum for the last few months as a guest but really only looked at the ac=dc stuff to get opinions so far. I bought my machine from amd sydney and I live in sunshine coast of queensland.
I am realy glad the ac=dc machines were covered alott cause it helped me to buy one. Everything ac=dc is really cool. I hope to read alot more other stuff on this site but will just stik to the ac=dc posts really. I havent had any prblemz yet and have had game for 3weeks and am learning more all the time. Thanx to the guys who posted about the ac=dc cause it helped me alot to buy a really good machine. If it wasent for the good reviews i might not have puled the trigger. thanx frob rob.
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I have been reeding this AC=DC thread for a while and bought myself a pro=acdc pinball after reading how good the model was. I didnt have the money to buy a limited model and waz to late anyhow so I bought the less expensive unit. I didnt get the shaker moter but will later when i can aford to spend more money. This is my first pinball and I was excited to buy one. I am really into stand up game cabinets and have some but this is my first pinball. I have been reeding the forum for the last few months as a guest but really only looked at the ac=dc stuff to get opinions so far. I bought my machine from amd sydney and I live in sunshine coast of queensland.
I am realy glad the ac=dc machines were covered alott cause it helped me to buy one. Everything ac=dc is really cool. I hope to read alot more other stuff on this site but will just stik to the ac=dc posts really. I havent had any prblemz yet and have had game for 3weeks and am learning more all the time. Thanx to the guys who posted about the ac=dc cause it helped me alot to buy a really good machine. If it wasent for the good reviews i might not have puled the trigger. thanx frob rob.
congrats on your first pin! first of many perhaps....
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Well just thought I'd post my AC DC Pro story & pics
Like many other worldwide pinball collectors I was very excited when Stern announced in early Jan 2012 the release of the AC DC pinball machine. This title had been doing the rumours for many many years.
On the 10th of Jan I called Bruce at AMD and paid a $1,950 deposit over the phone to reserve a AC DC Pro. He then offered me one of the dozen early sample games that he was air freighting out for the launch party. I decided not to get a sample game and wait for a later production game. I'm now glad I made this decison as the early games had the inserts in the famous Angus face YUK!!. The other reason I decided to wait is that I needed some more time to raise the $4,000 balance.
I must say that having never meet Bruce & the team @ AMD before their service throughout the whole process was fantastic!! $#$
Well in mid April 2012 my AC DC pro arrived in the 1st container into Australia. The game was shipped within a few days of arrival. Attached to the box was a Lightning Bolt kit that AMD included as an extra.
Why did I purchase this title ?. Its always been a dream of mine to purchase a NIB pinball, I've always enjoyed the bands music PLUS I've allways said that if Stern where to make an AC DC pinball I would just have to have one!!.
This is one hell of pinball, only had 300 odd games on serial # 492 & ZERO faults!! My wife and 4 kids just love this game as well.
This title will remain in my collection for many many years. Attached is a few pics..
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A few more pics
Unboxed on 20th April 2012.
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Great story thanks for sharing it's a great title and magic pinball to play
Peter
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Great story thanks for sharing it's a great title and magic pinball to play
Peter
Thanks Peter,
Yep this pinball rocks!!!, the playfield is super fast, just love the 2,3,4, ramp combos.
The sounds on this game are insane, the juke box rocks, war machine is the only song I've managed to play the entire song on 1 ball.
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Well just thought I'd post my AC DC Pro story & pics
Like many other worldwide pinball collectors I was very excited when Stern announced in early Jan 2012 the release of the AC DC pinball machine. This title had been doing the rumours for many many years.
On the 10th of Jan I called Bruce at AMD and paid a $1,950 deposit over the phone to reserve a AC DC Pro. He then offered me one of the dozen early sample games that he was air freighting out for the launch party. I decided not to get a sample game and wait for a later production game. I'm now glad I made this decison as the early games had the inserts in the famous Angus face YUK!!. The other reason I decided to wait is that I needed some more time to raise the $4,000 balance.
I must say that having never meet Bruce & the team @ AMD before their service throughout the whole process was fantastic!! $#$
Well in mid April 2012 my AC DC pro arrived in the 1st container into Australia. The game was shipped within a few days of arrival. Attached to the box was a Lightning Bolt kit that AMD included as an extra.
Why did I purchase this title ?. Its always been a dream of mine to purchase a NIB pinball, I've always enjoyed the bands music PLUS I've allways said that if Stern where to make an AC DC pinball I would just have to have one!!.
This is one hell of pinball, only had 300 odd games on serial # 492 & ZERO faults!! My wife and 4 kids just love this game as well.
This title will remain in my collection for many many years. Attached is a few pics..
Awesome score I think the pro looks the better game love the angus face and from what i hear a lot of guys prefer it as a player to the LE as they dont have to avoid the bottom playfield when choosing songs.good buying for the price too.
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Nice one Leon. It is a great game glad I bit the bullet and ordered one I would have been spewing.
What ever happened to Cavey and his powder coated rails? Did you end up getting that done Brett?
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Awesome score I think the pro looks the better game love the angus face and from what i hear a lot of guys prefer it as a player to the LE as they dont have to avoid the bottom playfield when choosing songs.good buying for the price too.
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+1, I have been playing a premium locally every weekend and avoid the hell songs.
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Did most buyers purchase direct from AMD?
Kind Regards,
Red
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Congrat's Leon ^^^
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Awesome score I think the pro looks the better game love the angus face and from what i hear a lot of guys prefer it as a player to the LE as they dont have to avoid the bottom playfield when choosing songs.good buying for the price too.
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+1, I have been playing a premium locally every weekend and avoid the hell songs.
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Understand the game properly and you won't avoid the lower PF there's sum good points to rack up there
Peter
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Awesome score I think the pro looks the better game love the angus face and from what i hear a lot of guys prefer it as a player to the LE as they dont have to avoid the bottom playfield when choosing songs.good buying for the price too.
+1, I have been playing a premium locally every weekend and avoid the hell songs.
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Understand the game properly and you won't avoid the lower PF there's sum good points to rack up there
Peter
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No disrespect to those that own a premium or le but I just don't enjoy the hell playfield and it doesn't help that I am crap at it as well. I am aware of the big points gained from going there but avoid the hell level for a more flowing game play as I don't mind the rest of the game.
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sorry hit quote instead of modify so duplicated last post &^&
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I avoid he'll as much as possible just don't have the reflexes lol
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Thanks for the kind words
The Stern AC DC Pinball just rocks!!!!!!!!
I plan to do some minor mods to my AC DC pro, a first is to improve the speakers, this title really needs a decent sub,
hoping someone does a plastic Rock N Roll train mod like the LE's & preimum models, the train plastic looks very ordinary?
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Thanks for the kind words
The Stern AC DC Pinball just rocks!!!!!!!!
I plan to do some minor mods to my AC DC pro, a first is to improve the speakers, this title really needs a decent sub,
hoping someone does a plastic Rock N Roll train mod like the LE's & preimum models, the train plastic looks very ordinary?
Isn't AC/DC the best pinball I love it ! Mate add a shaker motor first it makes a ton of difference especially with the new code maybe then new sub
Peter
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Does anyone know of a list of differences between regular game mode & directors cut via the install menu?
Not sure if its on the pro, definitely on premium & LE's..
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Well, as mentioned in the other thread I purchased an AC/DC Premium from Cashbox Amusements in Melbourne. I was lucky as they had two left and didn't have the worry of transport. I contacted Bruce from AMD as well and he was great to answer my questions and if there was no stock in Melbourne left I would have gone through Bruce or Joe.
So after much thought and reading the stories of members here and overseas and many youtube videos I decided to take the plunge on my first NIB.
I am not a huge ACDC fan, however enjoy their music. I do like band related pinballs (ie TOMMY, Guns N Roses) and each are good but not quite a home run.
After playing the PRO, I was quite impressed at the speed and feel of the game. It did not play like other newer Stern titles and just had something special. I really considered the PRO, however I emailed Steve RITCHIE and he was very friendly and accommodating to my questions about the game.
I emailed a few other members on their thoughts (RichyRich, Mr Gorgar & Daniel) and then made the decision.
Since the game arrived, it has been played non stop (all new games get this), but its a tough game to master and has a lot going on. The artwork, sound and light displays for me are a 10/10. I truly believe Stern absolutely nailed this one and I think it will be a while until a new game comes out of the Stern factory line which tops this.
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Congrats on the new purchase.
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Glad you like it Marty it is a great game next time your playing it go to a game without LEDs they look like there not even turned on %.%
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Good stuff Marty. I look forward to having a few games ^^^
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Great to hear your comments Marty as Daniel said the LEDs make all my other games look so dull they really did get the LEDs right in this game it's so dam bright it's amazing really, I've probally played near 1000 games and I still enjoy playing it wish I could afford another NIB game maybe avengers if it comes out
Peter
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Hey Marty,congrats
Great to hear
I know you will enjoy it #*#
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This post is a UPDATE on my AC/DC PRO and my experiences since owning the game.
Well, the AC/DC Pro is still 100 percent fault free since having the game unboxed. Everything works perfectly and nothing in the slightest has happened at all.
I have updated gamecode everytime the code has been made available and the game is now FULL of EXTRAS, hundreds of extras since the code updates have been flowing in. From audio updates to dot matrix display updates to game rule changes to extra light shows to anything you can name, the gamecode has made a excellent fun game even more fun and even extra challenging.
The Pro is a excellent game and plays very fast, has excellent audio ofcourse, and everything on this game flows really fast and works really well.
One of the biggest positives of this playfield layouts, is the fact that u can see 100 percent of every inch of the playfield during gameplay. This is a excellent design. The game is challenging with lighning speed, and the shots are many, with my favourite shot being the left flipper to get up the left ramp 6 or 7 times in a row once you learn to master that shot to open multiball once you then hit the right ramp, which opens multiball and gives u a cannon shot. Lots of fun. Another hard shot is the far right lane from the left flipper which is not a easy shot at all.
To get the best out of the AC/DC Pro, u need to watch the 2 x Stern videos which give you the rules for what u must shoot for on each song.
I have made a shot map/card detailing what u need to hit on each song which I look at before I start a new song which helps you to master this excellent set of game rules. The machine doesnt get boring at all, and I doubt even the best of best players will ever be able to get thru every song on a 3 ball game which is what i have set my machine to. Even a 5 ball game would be a miracle to get thru all 12 songs.
Other PRO owners I have spoken to are just delighted to own the Pro. I have played a Premium now and enjoyed it alot. It is definately a fun game, with eye candy lighting from the heavens and the differences make it different. I think the Pro plays a little bit faster(10 to 20 percent only) faster but the ultimate goal for anyone would be to own both a Pro and a Premium cause they are different enough that u could really enjoy both.
I wanted a harder game with more random, and shorter ball time so i went the Pro this time. Will i try to buy a Premium as well, yes, if I can. Would I ever sell the AC/DC PRO, no way, its that good that it will be a forever keeper for sure. The PRO AC/DC machine is a winner and I would rate it a 9 outta ten, the Premium/LE is a 10 outta 10. Dont ever think the PRO isnt a great game cause it is. Its alot of fun and if u like challenging, with great music and superb flow, the PRO is still a baragain for the $5950. Both AC/DC playfield designs are just the bomb.
I often play doubles against my brother, and we have alot of fun. So overall, new gamecode, more shaker motor effects, and all the extras have made what was already a great fun game, even better.
I will type up the AC/DC PRO game rule cheat sheet and post it here which will help any AC/DC owner to fully appreciate the extra fun and challenge which can be had by knowing the tricks of Steve Ritchie's game code rules etc.
IF I had my time over again, would I still buy the AC/DC Pro, hell yes. A really fun DMD with lots on offer.
I also note, i have read many posts from many different pinball forums from all over the world, and havent read anywhere yet where a AC/DC Pinball OWNER has said he was not happy. It seems every owner is still tickled pink with their games 3 and 4 months into the ownership. Thats a really good reference to go by for sure !
Keep AC/DC flipping ! ^^^
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Does anyone know how many Pros arrived into Aust and if any are left?
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Does anyone know how many Pros arrived into Aust and if any are left?
AMD still have them advertised, so I guess they are still for sale. !@#
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Does anyone know how many Pros arrived into Aust and if any are left?
AMD still have them advertised, so I guess they are still for sale. !@#
Though i'll ask the question guys, rather than back track the threads. I'm contemplating in selling the Addams for one.
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Play both, but I reckon the Premium is the better machine and certainly worth the extra $$
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Its not an easy call. Personally,saving $2400 by buying the AC/DC Pro over a Premium gave me a $2400 head start towards looking at a new X-Men title etc as well to add to the collection. So saving $$ here will be of benefit to some new machine collectors, but not to others. I felt getting the best of both worlds was better for me. A PRO version of the AC/DC or X-Men titles will get u a ripper of a game. U dont have to buy a LE/Premium to get great gameplay and features.
It would be interesting to see what numbers of each model have been sold in Australia (ratio of Pro versus Premium versus LE) ? !@#
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Not interested in the Premium/LE due to cost + there's a lot talk about not liking the lower playfield.
Brett, you might need to ring up Bruce and find out those numbers - if AMD are willing to disclose.
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I was not keen on the lower play field but my wife loves it. I have been visiting hell more recently and have found it more challenging as you need to control the ball better and use the tips of the flippers for clean loop shots. Time limit makes better play critical. I think the lower playfield has lots of potential. Can you imagine with future code change having to play both playfields at the same time with the cannon loading up during multi all? I heard some guy used his chin to fire the canon as he had balls on both flippers! Steve is now taunting with "welcome to hell", "hell in a box" and "back for some more torture" so I am sure there is some awesome code in the works.
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I've never played a pro so I'd better pull my finger out and play one but where's one sited in Melbourne? Also when the canon fires the ball and it rebounds off the targets does everyone one else end up with an air ball bouncing back into the PF? Will that create bumps in the PF down the track in the clear coat? Also who's had a shot at the bell from the canon for super jackpot? And I love how you can hold the right flipper in when launching ball for super skill shot!
Peter
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Does anyone know how many Pros arrived into Aust and if any are left?
Take your pick between NSW, VIC and WA Stern distributors/agents. All three are sitting on stock of both Pro and Premium (some in multiples).
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Gee it must have been a great seller for stern not only here but Europe and the states and it's a great game still selling heaps now, US forums abuzz about how good it is I wonder how many they sold worldwide
Peter
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Has anyone else had problems with their AC/DC drop targets??
As you can see,mine are wearing far too quickly,as I have only played 488 balls
Less than 100 games !@#
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Gee they must be rubbing on something I've play near 800 or more games and mine are like new!
Peter
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its on the sides as well
I assume its from the ball
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Mine are still fine but I did get some nice new balls in mine most I've seen the balls almost looked second hand take a close look at your balls and make sure there smooth and shiny not pitted?
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I never used the balls it came with,they were very ordinary
Put new bling balls in the day I got it
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I used the Gold Bling balls. they look awesome still and no wear or damage to the drops :)
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I used new bling balls from Tony also wonder why your targets look like that !@# On another note some guys in the USA have complained about the lower PF flipper rubbers coming off so I looked at mine and I reckon one of mine is moving up towards the top of the flipper shaft see pic so have any other guys had this happen? luckily the lower PF is easy to take off.
Peter
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Same here used bling balls and waxed my balls and playfield!
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waxed my balls and playfield!
Have never tried that, sounds painful *)*
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AC/DC scoring ! !@# !@#
It seems the scoring on the AC/DC PRO is quite different to the scoring on a LE/PREMIUM Model.
I have my game set to 3 balls on the PRO and although I have only played about 100 games or less in total on the AC/DC pinny, I have been able to get apx 70 million on a good 3 ball game. I am hearing people saying all the time that the scoring on the LE etc gets to 150 million plus points very easily ?
What scores are PRO owners and LE/PREMIUM owners gettting regularly on average on their AC/DC Machines ? !@# !@# !@# !@# !@#
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Anything over 10,000,000 is a good game for me lol !@)
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I average about 70-80 million per game ^^^.
Peter
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Casually get about 60 odd million however, I changed the scoring awards to 'extra ball so I manage over 100 mil quite often. With a few drinks I can even go even higher and on one occasion I managed 265 million with Rock and Roll train. I just kept shooting the left ramp on and on (lost count) and when the ball finally drained, the DMD showed the train going on and on and on for about 1 minute.....I thought something went wrong and was about to turn machine off when it finally stopped and this massive bonus came up.
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I am surprised that you only have had 100 games since owning - you need to get in there
AC/DC scoring ! !@# !@#
It seems the scoring on the AC/DC PRO is quite different to the scoring on a LE/PREMIUM Model.
I have my game set to 3 balls on the PRO and although I have only played about 100 games or less in total on the AC/DC pinny, I have been able to get apx 70 million on a good 3 ball game. I am hearing people saying all the time that the scoring on the LE etc gets to 150 million plus points very easily ?
What scores are PRO owners and LE/PREMIUM owners gettting regularly on average on their AC/DC Machines ? !@# !@# !@# !@# !@#
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AC/DC scoring ! !@# !@#
It seems the scoring on the AC/DC PRO is quite different to the scoring on a LE/PREMIUM Model.
I have my game set to 3 balls on the PRO and although I have only played about 100 games or less in total on the AC/DC pinny, I have been able to get apx 70 million on a good 3 ball game. I am hearing people saying all the time that the scoring on the LE etc gets to 150 million plus points very easily ?
What scores are PRO owners and LE/PREMIUM owners gettting regularly on average on their AC/DC Machines ? !@# !@# !@# !@# !@#
100 games no way I did that in the first week remember Brett the game counter resets after a code update.
Peter
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AC/DC scoring ! !@# !@#
It seems the scoring on the AC/DC PRO is quite different to the scoring on a LE/PREMIUM Model.
I have my game set to 3 balls on the PRO and although I have only played about 100 games or less in total on the AC/DC pinny, I have been able to get apx 70 million on a good 3 ball game. I am hearing people saying all the time that the scoring on the LE etc gets to 150 million plus points very easily ?
What scores are PRO owners and LE/PREMIUM owners gettting regularly on average on their AC/DC Machines ? !@# !@# !@# !@# !@#
100 games no way I did that in the first week remember Brett the game counter resets after a code update.
Peter
I have had nearly 3000 games on IM since purchase last December and I'm looking forward to the next 3000 odd games. #*#
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I hit 300 games on my IM in the first weekend...
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I hit 300 games on my IM in the first weekend...
Easy to do mate, I can lose hours on IM very easily. I still play it at least 10 or so times a day.
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100 games no way I did that in the first week remember Brett the game counter resets after a code update.
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Pete, I did 3 gamecode updates and there was about 40 or less games each time on the game counter so apx 120 games would be about it total.
Way cool game but I have been busy with other stuff. You could put my machine back in the box and u would never know it had ever been played.
I will have to find some more time to get some more games in. ^^^
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As this topic has taken several meanderings and commenced well before game delivery, I have split off the most recent course change http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=8988.msg117031#msg117031