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Title: Wanted
Post by: dealers choice on January 27, 2012, 01:02:48 PM
Guys i'm after a motor board for a 1974 Williams dealers choice if anyone knows where I could get one, please contact me @@^
Title: Re: Wanted
Post by: Homepin on January 27, 2012, 01:34:23 PM
welcome to the board
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Post by: beaky on January 27, 2012, 02:52:39 PM
is the original one missing or just faulty?
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Post by: dealers choice on January 27, 2012, 03:30:00 PM
is the original one missing or just faulty?
  Thanks for the welcome. I baught the machine for 50 bucks and took it to a bloke who fixes them in Glendale (Newcastle) and he told me that the machine was wacked together with the wrong motor board, As he had just repaired a Dealers Choice recently he compared the two
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Post by: Homepin on January 27, 2012, 04:06:03 PM
what exactly do you mean by "motor board"? EM's don't usually have PCB's so I am at a bit of a loss to understand what part you are describing?

Maybe pics would help us identify the bits you need.
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Post by: ddstoys on January 27, 2012, 04:19:48 PM
He would mean the whole board with all the relays and the score motor from the bottom of the cabinet.  Gunna be very hard to find id think seems strange that anyone would bother but who knows.  Any chance you can post a pic of what you have???
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Post by: Homepin on January 27, 2012, 04:22:44 PM
He would mean the whole board with all the relays and the score motor from the bottom of the cabinet.  Gunna be very hard to find id think seems strange that anyone would bother but who knows.  Any chance you can post a pic of what you have???

I can't see why anyone would change that but if so - it probably writes the machine off???

Could just be differences during a production run maybe?
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Post by: dealers choice on January 27, 2012, 04:51:32 PM
He would mean the whole board with all the relays and the score motor from the bottom of the cabinet.  Gunna be very hard to find id think seems strange that anyone would bother but who knows.  Any chance you can post a pic of what you have???

I can't see why anyone would change that but if so - it probably writes the machine off???

Could just be differences during a production run maybe?
Thats right guys the main board that runs the machine only lights work, I was told it looks like it was used as a parts machine and just wacked back together with whatever board they had to get rid of it. I baught it knowing it wasnt working
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Post by: goodolddays on January 27, 2012, 05:03:08 PM
If you can't fix it you can always get your money back by parting it out .
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Post by: dealers choice on January 27, 2012, 05:19:48 PM
If you can't fix it you can always get your money back by parting it out .
ive been told that too lol but i would like to try and get it going
Title: Re: Wanted
Post by: Strangeways on January 27, 2012, 06:28:08 PM

Don't part it out.

Williams machines of this era used a "Score Motor Assembly" with a Part number of D-6380. The actual motor itself has a part number of 14A-7883 or 14A-7884.

From the picture, it looks similar. Verify the part numbers.

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Post by: millsy on January 27, 2012, 06:44:54 PM
As Nino mentioned, if it is just the score motor - no problem
Need some better quality picts to see what exactly is missing
Whats the rest of the machine like (PF,BG etc)
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Post by: The pinballist formally known as Dean Morgan on January 27, 2012, 07:48:48 PM
Was the repairer reputable?
Did they offer to buy the machine from u for nix? If so alarm bells should ring.
Do they know what they are talking about?
These are simply questions as I don't know who u took it to, just seems strange to me
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Post by: goodolddays on January 27, 2012, 08:08:16 PM
Hmmm .. I have had 4 Williams EM's from '72 thru '76 Era and none have had the score motor orientated like that (mine have all been 90 degrees to that one) , nor in that position  on the playboard .

Agree we need some better quality pics please .

And my 'parting out' suggestion is , of course, a last resort option.
Title: Re: Wanted
Post by: The pinballist formally known as Dean Morgan on January 27, 2012, 08:18:15 PM
Hmmm .. I have had 4 Williams EM's from '72 thru '76 Era and none have had the score motor orientated like that (mine have all been 90 degrees to that one) , nor in that position  on the playboard .

Agree we need some better quality pics please .

And my 'parting out' suggestion is , of course, a last resort option.
Many were orientated like this and many as you rightfully state were 90degress and further back in the cabinet on left.  My guess is that this is correct
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Post by: Retropin on January 27, 2012, 08:23:13 PM
I SMELL A BIG FAT DIRTY RAT!!!!!

So you use 1 machine as a parts machine, but then to sell on you install a whole WMS relay board???

...NAAAAAAAAH,

My guess also is that this is how it should be... quick check on some schematics would verify this.
Im thinking that this repairer wanted you to put this game into the old "too hard basket" and sell on for say $100? Double your money??? Cant be bad eh?
LOL
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Post by: Homepin on January 27, 2012, 10:18:28 PM
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What he said!!!
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Post by: Boots on January 27, 2012, 10:58:26 PM
There is onen of these on ebay right now in SA.
Have a look at his photos and compare it to yours
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Post by: dealers choice on January 27, 2012, 11:28:08 PM
There is onen of these on ebay right now in SA.
Have a look at his photos and compare it to yours
thanks boots i will do that
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Post by: dealers choice on January 27, 2012, 11:37:59 PM
I SMELL A BIG FAT DIRTY RAT!!!!!

So you use 1 machine as a parts machine, but then to sell on you install a whole WMS relay board???

...NAAAAAAAAH,

My guess also is that this is how it should be... quick check on some schematics would verify this.
Im thinking that this repairer wanted you to put this game into the old "too hard basket" and sell on for say $100? Double your money??? Cant be bad eh?
LOL
I dont want to sell it though , I even put a new rubber kit on it and the play field is prob 8 out of 10. I want it as a project to restore as i like the older games more than the newer ones that u get like 4 million in bonus score. it would take ages to clock the score over on this thing if it worked
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Post by: Retropin on January 28, 2012, 01:37:36 AM
LOl- im not saying sell it.. im actually saying keep it and i reckon it could be made to work OK without too much effort... you do need to get a better camera though  %.%
Title: Re: Wanted
Post by: dealers choice on January 29, 2012, 03:27:16 PM
LOl- im not saying sell it.. im actually saying keep it and i reckon it could be made to work OK without too much effort... you do need to get a better camera though  %.%
thanks i will keep it, and i have a petter picture but file is too large to upload to this site so i used my mobile phone lol
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Post by: goodolddays on January 29, 2012, 04:39:06 PM
I use this iste to resize photos .. easy to use

http://www.picnik.com/
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Post by: dealers choice on January 31, 2012, 10:08:14 PM
I use this iste to resize photos .. easy to use

http://www.picnik.com/
thanks for the tip