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Title: Diamond coating...
Post by: Retropin on February 27, 2012, 11:07:33 PM
I had to go to my paint supplier today after a CC disaster on the weekend... its just too humid at the moment and the CC went cloudy with trapped moisture. Its not really an issue as it was a final coat #1 and so i have a good build up of clear already below it. The soft damp top coat just sands right off with ease.
Anyway, i got talking about 1 pac and 2 pac finishes.. pros and cons etc... im not a big fan of either and in all honesty doing a CC can go wrong quite easily.
He pointed me into the direction  of the new KBS  coating.... it can go over acrylic lacquer with no issues... dries absolutely rock hard.. can be hit with a hammer... flexes with timber expansion and contraction... is used to seal high polish metal to seal out rust and retain the high finish.. dries with a high gloss... best of all is self levelling so can be brushed on ( not recommended for paint surfaces though as it can cause drag on the paint)... basically... paint onto coin doors, side trims etc and seal to high gloss finish. Its bloody good stuff.. guy showed me his chrome bumper on his car and it was outstanding. Its more expensive that normal CC, but it is a Diamond coat and seems perfect for a pinball machine.

Link to product is here..

http://www.kbs-coatings.com.au/kbs-diamond-finish-clearcoat.

I can use this over a normall CC and it will grab and seal... most 2 pac CC's just sit on the surface and eventually lift or peel off over time... this wont.

Will be getting a litre for the finish coat on Bank A ball and will post results.
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: Steevsee on February 27, 2012, 11:21:32 PM
Sounds and looks like a great product.

Very keen to see how this works out.



Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: Caveoftreasures on February 27, 2012, 11:39:49 PM
Thanks Gav for the info. New products in the right hands (yours) can make a big difference to alot of the talented hobbyists on here.

I will also look forward to the end result, which knowing you, will work out a treat anyway.  ^^^  if ya get a chance with photos later, that would be T'riffic.
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: TUF-427 on February 28, 2012, 01:10:52 AM
Wonder how it will go over decals? been having all sorts of problems there,

this product looks great if it ticks all the boxes and goes over decals nicely..
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: Strangeways on February 28, 2012, 09:55:22 AM

Will be keenly waiting for the results !
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: goodolddays on February 28, 2012, 11:39:33 AM
For those interested who are also members of  AA , there is a thread there from a member  who has used this product with great results
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: mildflame on March 01, 2012, 08:07:31 PM
Wonder how it will go over decals? been having all sorts of problems there,

this product looks great if it ticks all the boxes and goes over decals nicely..
+1
 :D Could be a very interesting product. I have a good use for it if it works over decals
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: pinnies4me on March 02, 2012, 12:00:03 PM
Very interesting product for sure. I'll have a chat with my brother to see if he knows of it and any info.
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: kaverne on May 02, 2012, 11:35:20 AM
Any news on the result ? I'm very interested so I can give it a try  :D
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: Retropin on May 02, 2012, 11:42:42 AM
Results are really good!!

Takes longer to dry than conventional 2 pac clear, but levels off very very nicely. Real easy to use product.
Used it on Bank A ball and am just about to coat Amazing Spiderman with it..

(http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/retropin/BABdiamondclear1.jpg)

(http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/retropin/BABdiamondclear2.jpg)

Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: goodolddays on May 02, 2012, 12:45:46 PM
Gday Gav .

Looks great . How did you apply it  Spray or brush ?
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: ktm450 on May 02, 2012, 01:07:06 PM
Very nice, so it is not a 2 pac but adheres better and dries harder? sounds good  *%*
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: Retropin on May 02, 2012, 06:43:16 PM
Gday Gav .

Looks great . How did you apply it  Spray or brush ?

I sprayed it.. have a small detail air gun that i use for clear... prevents me from mixing too much.
The results on that PF were from 1 coat.. it didnt need a second.

.. and yes, harder than a 2 pac and smells better too!
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: femto on May 02, 2012, 08:34:52 PM
Can you tell us where you bought it from? If it is a chain store paint place then we will know how to get some. I have tried searching for suppliers on the net but have had no luck getting any concrete suppliers outside capital cities.
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: Retropin on May 02, 2012, 08:41:55 PM
Can you tell us where you bought it from? If it is a chain store paint place then we will know how to get some. I have tried searching for suppliers on the net but have had no luck getting any concrete suppliers outside capital cities.

Can be bought online here..

http://www.kbs-coatings.com.au/kbs-diamond-finish-clearcoat

I got mine from Queensland Paint Supplies in Salisbury
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: Strangeways on May 03, 2012, 10:01:24 AM

That looks great, Gav. How long to cure ?
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: kaverne on May 04, 2012, 12:26:38 AM
Looks awesome and really flat, I can't see no "wave", not even a start, on your pics.

I'll be flaggued as noob but whatever, what do you mean by 1 pac and 2 pac ? As english is not my native language I sometime miss some acronymes/vocabulary.
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: Retropin on May 04, 2012, 12:33:31 AM
1 pac is a straight forward clear coat.
2 pac is a clear that you add a hardener to.. is tougher than 1 pac and requires a special thinner etc.

Clear takes approx 1 - 2hrs before you can pick it up and move it... 2 days before you can lay anything on it. 7 days... rock hard
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: necroscope on May 04, 2012, 12:36:10 PM


Clear takes approx 1 - 2hrs before you can pick it up and move it... 2 days before you can lay anything on it. 7 days... rock hard

How long between coats? and how many coats do you reccomend with the diamond coat?
Title: Re: Diamond coating...
Post by: Retropin on May 04, 2012, 06:09:21 PM
I only did the one coat... can apply 2nd coat after about an hour