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Title: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: MartyJ on March 06, 2009, 04:42:13 PM
Hi guys,

My new machine is home.  Big thanks to Mark (again) for his excellent service!

Attached is a pic of my SuperCharger ramp area.  I've googled as much as I could to try to find a similar pic, but none at the right angle....There is a gap in the ramp, for the ball to drop onto the playfield near bumpers, but I'm not sure if something is missing or not.  The ball has landed on top of the plastic, which I'm sure is not right?

If someone is able to confirm this on their machine I would be most grateful....

No resto thread on this - its in bloody great condition, but it will get the full job done on it in a couple of months time!

Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: Wotto on March 06, 2009, 04:46:00 PM
Im going to Rollerballs in 30 minutes – I can check his and tell him to report back to you or I will have a look and let you know if his is any different later tonight.
Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: ktm450 on March 06, 2009, 04:49:42 PM
That is exactly the same as mine, it allows a ball caught on the ramp to drop off.
Well done by the way, great game!!
Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: MartyJ on March 06, 2009, 05:17:21 PM
Im going to Rollerballs in 30 minutes – I can check his and tell him to report back to you or I will have a look and let you know if his is any different later tonight.

Thanks Wotto, it may look like we're OK

That is exactly the same as mine, it allows a ball caught on the ramp to drop off.
Well done by the way, great game!!

Thanks KTM...It spat out there a couple of times whilst the super charger is doing its thing...No probs just making sure...

Just need to wiggle out 1 x switch problem and the Mars lamp motor not functioning....

The PF is in excellent condition, so happy with it.
Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: MartyJ on March 06, 2009, 05:30:06 PM
OK, another question,

This is the latest model WPC machine I have, hence has a playfield slide to tilt it.  I cannot for the life of me work out the safe way to do it.  I see these two metal ' hook' type leavers with springs but I'm not sure what they lock onto.  The last thing I want to do is have an accident, so being cautious!
Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: Strangeways on March 06, 2009, 07:20:40 PM
OK, another question,

This is the latest model WPC machine I have, hence has a playfield slide to tilt it.  I cannot for the life of me work out the safe way to do it.  I see these two metal ' hook' type leavers with springs but I'm not sure what they lock onto.  The last thing I want to do is have an accident, so being cautious!

You can extend the playfield out of the cabinet and raise it when the playfield runs along the full length. Just have a look at the munual - I'm pretty sre it explains it better than I have - with pictures..

Thats a bloody nice game - still has the plastic grey switch covers ! Good score !
Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: MartyJ on March 06, 2009, 07:37:32 PM
OK, another question,

This is the latest model WPC machine I have, hence has a playfield slide to tilt it.  I cannot for the life of me work out the safe way to do it.  I see these two metal ' hook' type leavers with springs but I'm not sure what they lock onto.  The last thing I want to do is have an accident, so being cautious!

You can extend the playfield out of the cabinet and raise it when the playfield runs along the full length. Just have a look at the munual - I'm pretty sre it explains it better than I have - with pictures..

Thats a bloody nice game - still has the plastic grey switch covers ! Good score !


Thanks Nino,  I had a look in the manual from IPDB but could not find it...Mark very kindly left (or forgot!) an Operator Manual in it - its only a dozen or so pages but will check it shortly...
The switch prob is sorted, the mars lamp is sorted (well sort of)....It had come apart during travel, but it felt like the motor had seized as well.  I put it all back together, turned it by hand - very gently and now works!....I will try to get another motor, but I don't think anyone has them locally...

Just need to look at the lower diverter then good to go!

It is a very clean machine.  I'm grateful to Mark for this one!...
Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: MartyJ on March 06, 2009, 08:34:43 PM
OK..The lower divertor has got me stumped.  Mainly because I cannot even find it?  The manual shows it in the top left hand corner of the ramp (near the horeshoe bit).
When I go through the diagnostics, when divertor high works no probs, divertor low (no noise nothing)....  I've spent the best part of an 1hr plus  ^&^


Is the divertor hi / low all part of the same mech?  The part numbers are identical from the manual.

Any help would be appreciated?
Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: markc on March 06, 2009, 08:52:45 PM


thanks  mate

manual ....  lucky I havent paid Tim yet this week     looks like he will be paying for that

checked with Ian and we had checked it over before it went on site but never done a full rebuild

good luck with it

mark
Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: MartyJ on March 06, 2009, 09:45:10 PM


thanks  mate

manual ....  lucky I havent paid Tim yet this week     looks like he will be paying for that

checked with Ian and we had checked it over before it went on site but never done a full rebuild

good luck with it

mark

Thanks Mark,

It was only the operators handbook manual, so not the big one...I would hate to see Tim docked for it!

I'm wrapped with the machine...Only a couple of minor switches etc, but I will do flipper kits and rest in due course.  Still fun to play...- but will need to sort out low diverter fault first!
Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: Duckman on March 06, 2009, 10:07:32 PM


Thanks Mark,

It was only the operators handbook manual, so not the big one...I would hate to see Tim docked for it!

I'm wrapped with the machine...Only a couple of minor switches etc, but I will do flipper kits and rest in due course.  Still fun to play...- but will need to sort out low diverter fault first!

SHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, don't tell him that mate. That was a gift from me!!! lol #@#

Hope you enjoy your new toy, it certainly is a great game to play.. ^^^
Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: markc on March 06, 2009, 10:31:11 PM


thanks  mate

manual ....  lucky I havent paid Tim yet this week     looks like he will be paying for that

checked with Ian and we had checked it over before it went on site but never done a full rebuild

good luck with it

mark

Thanks Mark,

It was only the operators handbook manual, so not the big one...I would hate to see Tim docked for it!

I'm wrapped with the machine...Only a couple of minor switches etc, but I will do flipper kits and rest in due course.  Still fun to play...- but will need to sort out low diverter fault first!


thanks again  glad to help and hope you enjoy it.  i still rate it as top pin. 
with  a decal  or touch up on the front it will come up real nice

dont worry about duck boy ....  i have a nice job for him tomorrow to make up for it

he will need  some  @@^  after i finish with me

Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: slammer on March 06, 2009, 11:03:44 PM
The ramp is OK, as discussed above it is for stuck balls to get back onto the playfield.

I just went throught the solinoid test, my lower diverter switch is also silent.

Why do you think it is faulty?

To lift the playfield, just lift the playfield enough so the legs clear the top of the cabinet and then pull forward until you here the levers "click" then you can flip up the playfield.

Cheers Angelo

Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: MartyJ on March 07, 2009, 10:02:33 AM
The ramp is OK, as discussed above it is for stuck balls to get back onto the playfield.

I just went throught the solinoid test, my lower diverter switch is also silent.

Why do you think it is faulty?

To lift the playfield, just lift the playfield enough so the legs clear the top of the cabinet and then pull forward until you here the levers "click" then you can flip up the playfield.

Cheers Angelo



Cheers Angelo,

I'm getting a divertor error on test / startup, but the top one is working fine....I may have to look at pulling ramp out and clean?

Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: MartyJ on March 07, 2009, 10:58:26 AM
OK, I've managed to find a RGP thread about the divertor.  There is no bottom one, is in fact the 'hold' on the diverter gate...

It seems as if the diverter errors are quite common even on a working one!  Mine certainly is working...

Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: MartyJ on March 07, 2009, 12:05:29 PM
OK, now sexy fingers here is in trouble.

Today is one of those days which I'm not going to touch anything more.  I got the playfield to lock into the two pins as Ang suggested and it was fine, until I'm trying to get it back off.  For some reason the playfield is stuck.  It will pivot down, but refuses to slide back into its place?

Both sides are locked in the same way.  From what I can work out, when the PF is lowered, the arms hit the upper pins and then it should slide back?

Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: slammer on March 07, 2009, 01:09:16 PM
Marty,

All you need to do is pull it forward (toward yourself)to unlock the playfield.....and then push it back in

Cheers Angelo
Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: Strangeways on March 07, 2009, 01:54:09 PM
Marty,

All you need to do is pull it forward (toward yourself)to unlock the playfield.....and then push it back in

Cheers Angelo

Correct - and when you pull it forward - you will hear a "click". Now push it back and play your game !
Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: MartyJ on March 07, 2009, 02:14:49 PM
Thats what I thought... !*!

IT should not be this hard!....I pulled it forward and lowered it down - as in both the levers sprung back and the r/h/s started to slide down but the left would get completely stuck.  I put a dab of grease on it, no value.  I finished up removing the lug on the left hand side and got it back in.  I'll have a look at it in case its got a burr or something....
Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: slammer on March 07, 2009, 02:17:24 PM
Check the return springs (approx 8mm diameter and 80-100 mm long) on the locking arms
Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: MartyJ on March 07, 2009, 06:10:00 PM
The springs seem to be OK.  I removed the pin / pivot lug thing and its definately worn and has large flat spots....I will measure the other ones to see if they can be swapped....

Title: Re: Question for the Getaway owners
Post by: MartyJ on March 20, 2009, 09:31:24 PM
Still enjoying my Getaway.  Gets about 1hr play per night at the moment.  Her strip / rebuild is approaching so gettings my plays in while I can.  Tumbler arrived today, so now there is no excuse.  Deconstruction to start (will do a new thread of course)....Full body rebuild, decal, playfield teardown, clean, polish, new flippers, flipper coils, re-sleave all other coils planning to clean every nut and bolt.  The resto's around here seem to have gone up a notch or two of late (didn't even think it was possible) so I'm estimating about 30 - 50hours on it.

I've updated the ROM as well.  I was running P-C (which is a prototype as I discovered)....Dropped a L-2 in as this is what was recommended for a Getaway.  WOW.  What a difference.  Basically a completely different playing game. 

How cool is the cheat mode!  Love it.

Oh...New playfield slide rails to go it as well.  The existing ones are no good.  Off to RTBB again.......or PBSP........... *%*