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Title: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Pauly540 on January 27, 2013, 08:54:36 PM
1978 Gottlieb ‘Hit The Deck’ restoration.
Never worked on any type of pinball before, being electrically competent, thought that ‘can’t be too hard !@# 11 months later!!!!!!!!
 ‘Hit The Deck’, I’d never heard of it before. Only months into the restoration I found IPDB and it states only 375 units ever made. Maybe being at the tail end of EM’s (love the fake neon score reels) I have to assume it was a bit of a lemon. Hey, it’s my pinball and I love it. Don’t have any history on it, but whilst pulling apart the coin door, I did find some 1979 NZ 20 cent coins, so either it was re-imported from NZ or kids had tried to score some free games with NZ coins in Australia.
These are pics of what I received; someone had hand painted the entire cabinet brown.
After removing the glass, the playfield was covered in mould and had that horrible smell of mice and their decaying presents. The back box door was missing, so all back box components had suffered the elements.
I’ll keep posting, once I work out how insert images in-between text. Sorry I’m new to this. (Photo bucket??)
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Pauly540 on January 27, 2013, 10:02:07 PM
Apart from the handy-man brown paint, the playfield is in an extremely good condition. There appears to be factory mylar with a few small bubbles/cracks around few inserts. Will address Playfield and electrics later.
First step was to try and remove that horrible brown paint and hopefully the original art was underneath. Luckily, my local paint shop still stocked Citrus Paint stripper. This stuff is fantastic. Once I tested on the back of the main cabinet, I applied and left for 20 mins. With a piece of thin plastic, the brown paint just rolled off on each 4inch swipe.
Once down to the original paint, I now understand why someone painted over. Huge amount of damage (can’t see clearly in picture), large gouges and worn off/faded colours. (People might now be cursing me about keeping it original, but this cabinet was very, bad) Once I got down to the complete side art, I thought, there is no way I’m going to reproduce this amount of curves/detail, with masking tape (those fish scales detail, will cause pain).
As I now know there was only x375 of these made, a stencil kit was not an option.
Can I now point out, I did not know anything about the aussiepinball site and the many helpful resources/information about making stencil’s. I wish I had posted beforehand and maybe ‘Retropin’ could have supplied a stencil kit.
I went with the old fashioned method. Tracing paper  @.@
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 27, 2013, 10:18:56 PM
Nothing wrong with the old 'tried and true' tracing paper method, i've been using that method (and white cardboard/posterboard) for the stencils for nearly 20 yrs now.. i'll be doing a cab respray thread shortly for a Gtb Genie i'm repainting for a fellow AP member  #@#

Your playfield looks like it'll clean up nicely, looks like it'd be a interesting and fun player
looking forward to seeing how it turns out  ^^^
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: oldskool1969 on January 27, 2013, 10:22:30 PM
 #*# Way to go Pauly,
have a crack, I am. heaps of good people and good tips here to help.
Love seeing the old girls brought back to life, good on ya mate  ^^^
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Pauly540 on January 27, 2013, 11:37:35 PM
Thanks Oldskool & Pinbologist,
I hope members don't mind, but I have completed the cabinet painting process and I am staggering my post's, because my typing skills are not up to speed. I now love EM machines. How satisfying is it to study a schematic and finally 'find out' why this or that wasn't working. 
Back to my project:

A3 Tracing paper from Officeworks, comes in a x20 pack. The carbon paper, to transfer the tracing to stencil also came from Officeworks x10 pack.
The endless circles were driving me nuts with my wobbly free hand skills, so forced me to return to Officeworks for a circular ruler. Saved many hours of free hand drawing and also helped getting some curves on those dam fish scales.
As I had no chance masking all of those lines and curves, I found a local sign maker/printer that stocked standard size sheets of 0.08mm white plastic. Sorry, I’m being vauge, because I never asked what I was buying. The sheets of plastic are about 20% larger that a pinball side (about the size of a bus stop wall advertisement), so I purchased X4 sheets ($8 each). One for each colour of the side cabinet, one cut in half for each side of the top box and one for the front coin door with excess.
Once traced onto the plastic sheet with carbon paper, now for the many hours spent gently cutting out the curves/lines for a complete (each colour) stencil. I flipped the same stencil when painting, for the same colour on the other side of the cabinet. I think I spent around 10 hours cutting out each colour for the main cabinet stencil. Yes, I've got way to much time on my hands  #@#
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Ford Fairlane on January 27, 2013, 11:49:35 PM
love it! keep these posts coming!!  #*#
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Pauly540 on January 28, 2013, 12:16:22 AM
Even though the cabinet was structurally sound, the lower coin door laminate had separated (if you know what I mean).  Tonnes of wood glue and clamps. How lucky am I this is the only wood separation.
Whilst the glue was drying, I moved onto the legs. The fronts weren't too bad. A quick coat of rust remover, WD40, buffer and Silvo, they came up nice for 30+ years. The back ones had no hope.
Luckily I discovered Neno on Aussiepinball. A brand new set 27" (27" or 28" legs, I know they were buggers to find). Why was I wasting my time removing rust?
Now got the cabinet down to bare wood, ready for primmer.
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Pauly540 on January 28, 2013, 01:13:50 AM
Finally got the cabinet base colour coat painted, with a compressor and air gun. I think I must have sprayed 5+ coats of primer. Every time I sanded the primer, I always found an imperfection. Yes, now I was becoming anal.
Base colour coat down now.
Spraying the first yellow colour. Boy was I worried.
After removing the brown paint I did notice there was over spray everywhere on the factory cabinet, between colour's and the yellow was bleeding through the orange . This was why I went for a ‘Loose’ template instead of a custom stencil (which I had no hope of finding).
This is yellow down.
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Pauly540 on January 28, 2013, 01:15:44 AM
Yellow down.
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Pauly540 on January 28, 2013, 02:03:04 AM
Orange down, The plastic sheet was a bit light, when spraying with an air gun hence the extra weights. If you get lift off the stencil, are you happy with the over spray?? Examaming the original paint  I think it is acceptable.
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Pauly540 on January 28, 2013, 02:24:08 AM
This is were I'm up to.
The PF has been waxed and boy does this game fly.
I Hope someone else has learnt something from my experiences.
I'll never sell this machine, as it was my first  &&  &&
To be honest this machine is now working at around 95%.
Are their any Australian 'Hit The Deck' owners out there.
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Crashramp on January 28, 2013, 07:30:10 AM
Looks awesome mate, thanks for sharing your experiences. It's defiantly a keeper after all the effort you've put it there!  @@*
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: oldpins on January 28, 2013, 08:10:44 AM
Great post Pauly540, reminds me of my first EM restore many years ago. Looks to me you've got the bug and we will see more & more EM restores from you in the future.
Good to see another machine bought back to it's former glory. Well done !
 @@*
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Operator68 on January 28, 2013, 08:38:51 AM
Great job Pauly540. It looks like a difficult cabinet to paint but your finished product looks fantastic. How is your coin door? Are you going to restore or replace the door? I am going to attempt my first resto this year on a Gottlieb King. I hope it comes up as good as yours. #*#
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Mr Pinbologist on January 28, 2013, 09:04:20 AM
So this is your first cab repaint?? great job  ^^^ ^^^ ^^^
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: visionman on January 28, 2013, 10:17:10 AM
magnificent job !!!!!

and if this is your first one i am looking forward too see the next one

greetings


tony #*# #*# #*# #*# #*#
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: millsy on January 28, 2013, 10:41:55 AM
Excellent - Keep up the good work  @@* @@*
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Strangeways on January 28, 2013, 11:36:10 AM

Outstanding work ! That's an EXCELLENT result for a first cab repaint. Everything you did was exactly how I used to repaint cabinets before stencils became available. I love the "overspray" and "underspray" - it is part of the original manufacturing process. You have done a really good job - and thanks for sharing - this is the kind of effort that encourages others to restore their games.
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: goodolddays on January 28, 2013, 12:15:27 PM
Top job  ^^^ especially for your 1st effort too.
Yes, making your own stencils and painting the cab/headbox is a lot of work but as you've found, well worth the effort .

I was very tempted to buy this game when it was on EBAY. Great to see it being restored to its former glory.

Got any pics of the playfield now you've cleaned it up ?

Yes, I love fault finding these old games too.
If you own an EM you really need to learn how to read a schematic and if you have a manual as well it really helps . 
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Pinlinds on January 28, 2013, 12:41:54 PM
Excellent work! I'm about to start a Firepower cabinet restore. I hope I can achieve this sort of result. Theis forum is such a valuable source of information.
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Pauly540 on January 29, 2013, 06:52:20 PM
I did find a few more pictures and of course, that final completed picture with new tempered glass. Excuse the junk underneath.  !@)

It’s a bit hard to tell, but I did speckle after the base colour. After looking at many pictures on the web, some were heavily speckled and some looked like there was nothing at all, so I went in-between, with the wire brush ‘flick’ method.

The coin door is in excellent condition. No dents or extra holes drilled in it. After about 5-10 hours!!! of rust removal, cleaning, polishing and a new decal, the only thing left is to remove the two heavy deliberate scratches on coin entries. After reading a few posts, I will attempt the re-graining method.

I didn't really take any pictures of the mechanical repairs. This machine had many ‘intermittent’ issues. Apart from sticky score reels, I found that whenever ‘gently’ pulling on wires/probing with the multi meter, some just fell off their soldered joints, so in the end, I just re-soldered ‘EVERY’ wire connection (hence the many months). I suppose you can’t trust 30+ year old solder.

The last issue (that was driving me nuts from day one) was that it kept kicking out the ball after ‘Game Over’; you had to shoot this ball over a dead playfield, before you start a new game. I finally tracked it down to a worn bush on the ‘Ball count unit’ shaft. A new bush required on next parts order.
Next project is 1984 Williams ‘Space Shuttle’ which has been patently waiting for me.
Stencils arrived last week for US (Ebay). New ramp and Shuttle toy already received from RTBB. I’ll start a new post as I progress, instead of jamming it all in one post.
Thanks everyone for their kind comments.
Regards,
Paul.
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Boots on January 29, 2013, 07:42:29 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: femto on January 29, 2013, 08:10:23 PM
Having just spent 12 months doing something similar I understand the amount of work and dedication required for this. Your machine is looking superb and I reckon you must be proud! Well done!
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Crashramp on January 29, 2013, 08:21:58 PM
It looks top notch! Very well done.   @@*

Once I get all my parts in I'm about to start something similar so thanks for sharing. These threads give me confidence to have a crack myself.
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Retropin on January 29, 2013, 09:57:09 PM
That machine is beautiful... its what pinball looks like in my head.

The work you did with the stencils is outstanding and the results show the attention to detail you gave.
..Awesome machine and an equally awesome restoration job done on her... love that cabinet!
\..LOL- i now want one!
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: FreePlay on January 29, 2013, 10:14:49 PM
Hit the Deck was the first pin that I got - parents didn't want a pin in the house so my brother and I dug enough space under the house to fit it there. My parents soon realised we were serious, didn't want it in the bedroom so it was allowed in the laundry, my poor mum had no room for the washing so it eventually made it to our room ... oh the memories *%* *%*
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Pauly540 on January 29, 2013, 11:50:43 PM
Thanks Retropin. A comment like that, coming from someone like yourself, welled me up.
Hand making that main stencil brought many tears over 3 months. I definitely bit off more than I could chew! What was I thinking  #(&
I still have the original tracings and am more than happy to give them to you.

Thanks,
Paul.
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: goodolddays on January 30, 2013, 10:28:52 AM
Wow Paul , that playfield really scrubbed up well .  ^^^ Now starting to wish I had won that ebay auction .

Where did you get the new playfield glass from and how much ?
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Strangeways on January 30, 2013, 11:31:51 AM

Another EM restored to original condition. This is an awesome effort - well done - that's one EXCELLENT restoration.

The hours that go into this level of work can become very high, and the attention to detail must be 100%. This ticks both boxes. What a beautiful game.
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Adrian on April 19, 2013, 07:37:47 PM
Great job Pauly I think GTB wedge heads are great I have a Top Card, Jacks Open  and Golden Arrow. You have done a great job it also looks like a fun game to play. I wouldn't mind one in the collection, Alway looking for wedge heads
Adrian
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: ktm450 on April 29, 2013, 10:36:48 PM
That is a great job, lot of work in those stencils, I'm going to have to do some like that soon, not looking forward to it  :lol
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: oldskool1969 on May 01, 2013, 10:45:47 PM
Awesome job.
Although when I first looked at the repaint and saw the fish I went WTF? has he done.
How the hell can a card game have a bloody trout on it? Then I looked at the lovely play field and realised that it has some really cool fish and ocean characters on it and thought OH YEAH! a bit like King Neptune.
I wish more ocean themed games were done.
Is it a good player? as it sure looks like a bit of fun.
Title: Re: GTB Hit The Deck first EM restoration
Post by: Pauly540 on May 02, 2013, 08:07:41 PM
After some research on IPDB, it appears ‘Hit The Deck’, ‘Poseidon’ & ‘Neptune’ all had exactly the same stencils. As far as I can see, the yellow also bleeds through the orange in areas, so I’m not too disheartened.
With two SS restorations going, I think I still prefer working on EM’s, they seem too had built them with quality parts, back in those days.
When playing, matching the cards is a challenge; I’ve spent many hours trying.  #@#
When I get through the SS machines, I think I’m going back to EM. Whenever someone has a play, the chimes, electrical buzzing sound going over switches (especially going slowly over a switch-  BUZZZZZZZ) it brings back so many happy memories from their childhood.
I still have my (each colour) original stencil tracings, so if anyone needs them, I’m more than happy to post them on to someone else working on the above games. Sorry, the cut out templates disintegrated after applying the paint.