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Title: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: Caveoftreasures on March 04, 2013, 09:39:00 PM
Who has the nicest balls ?  !@#

Its not a question I have ever asked a batch of blokes before, but my balls are rusty, stock as a rock from Stern, and I want some really shiny nice balls !

I dont know if u have had the same problem or not, but with any of my BNIB Stern games, the balls were rusty on arrival, and then rusty only a few days after I first played with my balls. Some say u shld buy bling balls, some say u shld buy stock balls, but the balls I bought before came in a box of apx 200 and i have used them all for all of my machines, but I am noticing the quality is not the best, and they get pitted very fast, and then they are no good.

Can different people supply a link to anyone with a std sized silver ball which u reccommend, and then tell me why they are the best balls please.

All reccomendations will be considered for a large batch purchase.

Who has the nicest balls ?  &&
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: RottyGuy on March 04, 2013, 09:42:58 PM
I've used BLING in the past and have been very happy. I was also very impressed with the ultra high gloss pinballs from PL.
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: Boots on March 04, 2013, 09:45:00 PM
I have noticed that with balls that came from everyone except pbresource, they don't seem to rust.
Others like to go rusty within a week
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: Freiherr on March 04, 2013, 09:56:24 PM
I use BLING.
When I first got BIB LE, the lower playfield started showing black sooty deposits after about one month of play with the standard Stern balls. I gave it a good clean, changed to BLING balls and have had no need to clean the playfields for past 11 months. Says it all.
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: Freiherr on March 04, 2013, 11:30:12 PM
Ebay often lists in various batches of 25 to 100 balls.
For example:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-chrome-steel-premium-mirror-finish-pinballs-/390119980892
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: Caveoftreasures on March 05, 2013, 12:19:12 AM
It appears that i cant use BLING balls on any game that has magnets that randomly throw the ball around the playfield.
Thats a definate NO NO for X Men and Avengers. I will have to check my AC/DC cause I think it has some magnets under the playfield as well, so it looks like any game that has various magnets, HAS to use standard carbon steel balls......

I guess I could test a set of bling chrome balls in say X Men which has heaps of under playfield magnets etc, but according to the seller, he has advised against it....?........

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/390119980782;jsessionid=C212F5D9565B01116F9B65947595BBAB?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D390119980782%26_rdc%3D1

? has anyone else used the chrome bling balls on their machines which DO have the random magnets kicking in etc, and did it affect it or not.....
It would be interesting if alot of people have used these bling balls and didnt realise their gameplay might have been affected by it and they didnt realise ?  !@#

maybe, i shld just stick to his std steel balls for example....

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Ten-carbon-steel-premium-mirror-finish-pinballs-/390120119073?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5ad4f89b21

I am sure the Australian sellers have the same product, and hopefully the aussie prices will be good, and a bit of a saving on postage.

I will do a list of what i find for the aussie sellers, and list them on the thread and hopefully it can help anyone else who is wondering about fixing their own balls up.
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: robm on March 05, 2013, 07:44:05 AM
Chrome balls can magnetise very quickly - i accidently put them in my TOM and had trough issues within a couple of days (prob 15 games) where they magnetised and stuck together.

Bling do make a carbon steel ball as well i though - just not quite as 'mirror' finish
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: GORGAR 1 on March 05, 2013, 10:13:39 AM
Chrome balls can magnetise very quickly - i accidently put them in my TOM and had trough issues within a couple of days (prob 15 games) where they magnetised and stuck together.

Bling do make a carbon steel ball as well i though - just not quite as 'mirror' finish

Lol that happened to me to they where like a bling daisy chain :-)

Peter
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: Freiherr on March 05, 2013, 12:17:32 PM
Carbon balls are less prone to magnetise but they too can eventually cause sticking and trough problems.
Like I said, my ACDC and Avengers have Blink balls and I have not (yet) experienced magnetized issues. The playfield is certainly cleaner where the rag would come up grey after a wipe following a number of plays with standard carbon balls.
The following article is very good and useful for anyone with balls of steel.
http://www.pinballnews.com/learn/magnetism/index.html
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: MrMaloo on March 05, 2013, 09:37:18 PM
Cavey , go see Tony at The Pinball Shed in Brisbane . He is the authorised distributor for Bling Pinballs in your area . As already mentioned make sure you get either chrome balls or carbon steel balls ( depending on whether your game has magnets or not ) .
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: Redback on March 06, 2013, 07:27:10 AM
RTBB

http://www.rtbb.com.au/catalog/index.php?cPath=140&osCsid=84dfbbc15195f059022348e8874b4cf3

Red
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: Caveoftreasures on March 06, 2013, 11:55:34 AM
RTBB

http://www.rtbb.com.au/catalog/index.php?cPath=140&osCsid=84dfbbc15195f059022348e8874b4cf3

Red

Very attractice pricing there, and a very good selection from RTBB.
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: GORGAR 1 on March 06, 2013, 04:16:32 PM
So the answer is that Greg has nice balls? And shiny to lol

Peter
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: Cursed on March 06, 2013, 09:33:55 PM
Yep i use Greg's balls on my machines.....(im sure he does not mind  :lol)
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: ddstoys on March 06, 2013, 09:41:01 PM
Ill see if I can find them had an acdc NIB and one of the balls loocked like it had been cut in half roughly welded back together then polished it was a bloody disgrace specially for a premium.

   My acdc balls were shit as well but not that bad.
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: Caveoftreasures on March 06, 2013, 11:45:13 PM
thankyou gentlemen for sharing your experiences about your balls.

it seems that the best way to go, is to buy locally.  shipping from the USA is a killer.

and i learnt about carbon steel versus chrome, and its good to take into consideration what magnets etc your pinball machine has so u buy the right balls.

bling is good, but hey have to be the right bling. lesson learnt here !

last but not least, dont forget, check your balls often men !
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: Ball Baron on November 30, 2017, 06:14:52 AM
 G'day all!  Having just shipped my first order to Australia last week, I'm sure that once received, the buyer will back my claims. My Standard pinball is a solid chrome ball with a superior shine and is bettered only by my Ninja ball which will be available for purchase in 2 weeks (Mid December).  I sell on my website www.ballbaron.com and also, eBay and Amzon. My domestic sales can be handled on all three platforms but for export ease and lowest shipping cost to the buyers, I use ebay's Global Shipping Program and can ship up to 50 lbs (approx 24 kilos) at a time. I carry a Carbon ball as well which will have no magnetic memory.
The production of all my stock is done in Bearing manufacturing plants and the quality of the steel is strictly regulated. All Chrome balls are AISI 52100 Chrome and the Carbon is AISI 1095. The balls are within 1/10,000 inch variation and the weight is a constant 2.8 ounces or 80 grams. The Chrome balls have a Rockwell hardness of +60 and the Carbons are a little less. I have put a rare earth magnet on the carbon ball and let it set for 72 hours. After removing the magnet, I could not attract a small paper clip with the ball. The Chrome balls, however are a different story. There isn't a Chrome ball made that does no have magnetic memory characteristics.  It's the nature of the metal. The upside is that they can be given a perfect mirror finish. As for the Carbon, they do not shine up as well because the nickel content in the steel is lower, but again - the upside is no residual magnetism. I worked in quality control at Hoover Precision Products outside of Atlanta Georgia USA for five years and make these statements with the backing of that experience. If you think any of this is 'sus' then please double check anything I've said. I would like to be a source for information as well as another place you can go to get a premium ball at the best price possible considering international shipping costs and import fees. for any feedback you'd like to confirm with others in the pinball family, check out pinside.com which is a US based forum. Look for "Samurai ball" 'G-10 ball" or "Ninja ball"
I hope I haven't overstepped any boundries with this post, I'm just trying to put information you would consider fair dinkum.  Thanks!

Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: Strangeways on November 30, 2017, 10:11:28 AM
RTBB will be stocking the range of balls from Ball Baron. They will be here in Australia early next week.

Thanks for the technical post, David - We look forward to stocking the balls and the feedback from collectors !
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: Strangeways on December 11, 2017, 03:48:20 PM
Chrome balls are now in stock. Standard Carbon and High polished chrome (Ninja) will be here in 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: Strangeways on December 18, 2017, 10:06:16 AM
Chrome polished balls - selling fast
Carbon balls - should be here this week
Ninja High Polished Chrome Balls - will be here hopefully next week.

That's 900 balls. Hopefully we won't run out again !
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: Cursed on December 18, 2017, 06:47:32 PM
Perfect timing!

Christmas is a perfect time to change my balls.

Chasing some carbons and some ninjas.
Title: Re: Who has the nicest balls ?
Post by: Ball Baron on May 14, 2018, 04:16:05 AM
Chrome balls can magnetise very quickly - i accidently put them in my TOM and had trough issues within a couple of days (prob 15 games) where they magnetised and stuck together.

Bling do make a carbon steel ball as well i though - just not quite as 'mirror' finish
I've started a thread on here dealing with this issue. I'll be doing some Statistical Process Control work with volunteers later this year. Different electro magnetic machine features and how they effect the chrome and carbon balls ove specific timelines of game play.
Also starting a blog on my website, where these issues can be more readily addressed.
As for Carbon balls - they are softer steeland will just not polish up the way a chrome ball will because of the difference in nickel content. Chrome balls can also be heat treated to a higher Rockwell hardness (60+). Don't know if you knew this or not - just chucking it out there for general consumption.


Hope you'll join in.
Cheers
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