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Aussie Pinball Forums => General Discussion => General Pinball Discussion => Topic started by: pinball-collector on July 11, 2013, 08:56:57 PM
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Is it just me or have pinball prices on the rise a bit, have not looked at pinballs on ebay for a while. But a few high asking prices ..
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Law of supply and demand.
Currently there is a plenty of interest with a lot of desirable machines staying with collectors for a longer time.
Many baby boomers are retiring with lots of cash to splurge on their childhood love of pinball.
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Tax refund time may have some influence
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Law of supply and demand.
Currently there is a plenty of interest with a lot of desirable machines staying with collectors for a longer time.
Many baby boomers are retiring with lots of cash to splurge on their childhood love of pinball.
Yeah, well, l have 40 late 70s and early 90 pinball stacked up doing nothing, got no time to work on then at the moment, but they seam to be asking a fair bit for the late s70s pins.
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yes I've noticed step prices on some pins on ebag, Is the asking price a true refection on prices !@# Completed listing show whats been sold lately, Auctions & BIN (((
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Interesting I was going to say something about an eBay listing for a space invaders pinball. I'm currently swapping my playfield on a working si pinball and will replace with new plastics, globe holders, all bumpers and caps and no pf wear. When I saw a nice example with a little wear and nothing new but working go for $2275 I went WHAT. I would expect my game when done would be worth maybe $2k so I think this guy had a real win.
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Auctions sometimes can work out ok, think that SI was listed couple of times before with no result, 2275 - ebay comish = 2k #@#
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Auctions sometimes can work out ok, think that SI was listed couple of times before with no result, 2275 - ebay comish = 2k #@#
Correct !
There's a lot of project junkers hitting eBay that need a ton of work, which is great for people like me, as long as the junkers prices are not too expensive. I like the "auctions" where the game fetches a VERY low price, yet is listed the next day or so as a "non paying bidder". Why would someone win a cheap machine for a low price and not pay for it ? They have had 24 hours to "not pay" ?
The classic late 70's are increasing on price, but buyers need to look beyond the hype and make sure they know what they are actually buying. Seems a lot of KISS machines are hitting eBay again, and the prices are way over the top. for those prices you would expect a "High End Restoration".
But I have seen a trend towards High end Restos lately. Thankfully, buyers are willing to wait for them as they take a lot of time to complete !
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luck, timing, supply and demand.. if two collectors with deep pockets had wanted that SI it would have gone for 5k not 2.
Yeah, well, l have 40 late 70s and early 90 pinball stacked up doing nothing,
no love for the early 80's? . but maybe you could fix the supply and demand issue single handed by listing all 40 for sale
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Another example of ridiculous price rip offs on ebay.
Here is a kids game Star Galaxy selling for $1313 on ebay
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Mightymast-Star-Galaxy-Professional-Pinball-Machine-Black-/251584202244?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item3a93964604&_uhb=1
Same game can be had from Chrisco for $598
http://www.chrisco.com.au/Products/1476-star-galaxy-pinball-machine.aspx
Seller on ebay is fishing for unweary buyers as his price is ridiculously high for what the item is.
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yes I've noticed step prices on some pins on ebag, Is the asking price a true refection on prices !@# Completed listing show whats been sold lately, Auctions & BIN (((
Spot on. People are asking the higher prices, but the actual completed sales data indicates that they aren't selling for that price. I'm even classifying a pulled/ended early auction as a sale. The high priced* pins generally aren't moving.
Seeing the same high priced pins get relisted over and over again on ebay. Also noticed that a lot of those same sellers are also listing on gumtree so they have a bit more negotiation room on the asking price.
*High priced = $5k and up. The Spiderman Black that was snapped up the other night for $8k BIN was an aberration and undervalued for what it was.
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Yep I have definitely seen a rise in pin prices. Not just on eBay but on pinball forums also. Honestly, there are a few prices being asked that are well over the top and others that just seem to take the piss. 5.5K for a Space Invaders comes to mind. Fair enough if these over valued pins are getting sold, many are relisted time and time again.
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Yep I have definitely seen a rise in pin prices. Not just on eBay but on pinball forums also. Honestly, there are a few prices being asked that are well over the top and others that just seem to take the piss. 5.5K for a Space Invaders comes to mind. Fair enough if these over valued pins are getting sold, many are relisted time and time again.
Private sellers are sometimes just small time dealers that follow the same shenanigans as "big" dealers. There's a private seller in NSW that pulls auctions before the 24 hour deadline - if the price is not right. Then the game is relisted due to "non paying bidder" or similar. The dealer games listed at stupid prices is simply an auction used for advertising purposes only - to snare unsuspecting buyers. The games are not even cleaned ! The problem with relisting machines for months on end is that the reputation suffers due to the inability to sell that stock.
Prices are creeping up because demand is rising again. It is like a "second wave" of supply not meeting demand. The one thing I've noticed is that pinheads want more value for these increased prices.
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Yep I have definitely seen a rise in pin prices. Not just on eBay but on pinball forums also. Honestly, there are a few prices being asked that are well over the top and others that just seem to take the piss. 5.5K for a Space Invaders comes to mind. Fair enough if these over valued pins are getting sold, many are relisted time and time again.
I can't see a problem with that as I own one &&. But the problem is I'll never get such a price even if I throw my wife in with the deal ^^^
I have seen this game and the price tag is still on it in the shop and quite frankly, and I know owners will always view their games better than what they are, my game is probably 40-50% better condition. So if you're looking for a nice space invaders pinball mine is for sale for $8000 or best offer %.%
And no matter how much I like my spacies looks wise and play wise, at that price I'll carry it on my back to your place.
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Many Sellers protect their prices by asking 'too much', knowing that buyers will attempt to beat a $5k pin down to say $2-3k, which is what the seller really wanted in the first place.
For a $5k pin, the unknowing buyer might offer $4k, thinking a $1k discount is awesome and yet the seller is still making a free $1-2k more than the intended with his $2k base figure.
No seller will turn away FREE MONEY.
Advertising for $2-3k initially will only attract more buyers who wanna beat it down to $1k before you know it.
Far too many buyers watching too many "pawn-star" shows and learning some bargaining skills that just dont work in real life. Pffft!
MM
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the dealers on E-bay have turned it into a joke
the same machines listed week after week
I don't even bother looking more than once a week (if that)
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the dealers on E-bay have turned it into a joke
the same machines listed week after week
I don't even bother looking more than once a week (if that)
The "don't care" factor works against them. Buyers are a lot more educated these days. Repeat listings just add to the reputation. If a game is continually relisted, then it suggests the seller price is too high, or that the workmanship is so poor that the inventory does not sell. I think relisting the games is part of their business acumen of convincing themselves that they know the product and the market. I'm not complaining, other than eBay games often hit my workshop, so I should be grateful #@#
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No Nino, these guys are not doing you or anyone else a favor
The average buyer does not understand the difference between you and dodgy Steve, all they know is they spent big money on something that never works
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Never heard of Dodgy Steve... has he got machines to sell?? Do you have his contact details at all??.. Bet he is Melb based and shipping will be the killer...
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No Nino, these guys are not doing you or anyone else a favor
The average buyer does not understand the difference between you and dodgy Steve, all they know is they spent big money on something that never works
Pete - They are giving me extra work, which I don't need, but I'm grateful for ! Unfortunately, fleabay works against buyers. They buy the over priced machines off eBay, leave feedback and then they do their homework only to find out that they over paid and didn't get what they thought they would. Some buyers still but "projects" in the hope that they just need rubbers and a clean. Then reality hits. Some are buying "restored" games, and I'm finding second hand flipper kits that have been in a tumbler (not replaced as specified) and pop bumper bodies etc filthy - not replaced. Boards have dodgy repairs.
I think the hardest part of my job is answering the phone and listening to the customer's buying experience. I think that machines should be priced at the standard that they are presented in. But we all know that won't happen !
The best part of my job is watching the customer become part of the learning process. At the end of the day, all they want to do is pay fair prices for games sold as described.
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Never heard of Dodgy Steve... has he got machines to sell?? Do you have his contact details at all??.. Bet he is Melb based and shipping will be the killer...
I'm offended, my business name is 'dodgy Robs' and come one, come all and see the wonderful space invaders pinball for only $7999. Yes under 8k for this beauty. But wait there's more...... you get free of charge seconds, if not minutes of trouble free play before I change my phone number.
All my games come with a patented power saving mode that you'll see the savings on your next power bill. No matter how hard you try, you won't get this baby to power up.
So call me.... call me now on 0555 4234 our operators are waiting. ^^^
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Never heard of Dodgy Steve... has he got machines to sell?? Do you have his contact details at all??.. Bet he is Melb based and shipping will be the killer...
I'm offended, my business name is 'dodgy Robs' and come one, come all and see the wonderful space invaders pinball for only $7999. Yes under 8k for this beauty. But wait there's more...... you get free of charge seconds, if not minutes of trouble free play before I change my phone number.
All my games come with a patented power saving mode that you'll see the savings on your next power bill. No matter how hard you try, you won't get this baby to power up.
So call me.... call me now on 0555 4234 our operators are waiting. ^^^
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Never heard of Dodgy Steve... has he got machines to sell?? Do you have his contact details at all??.. Bet he is Melb based and shipping will be the killer...
I'm offended, my business name is 'dodgy Robs' and come one, come all and see the wonderful space invaders pinball for only $7999. Yes under 8k for this beauty. But wait there's more...... you get free of charge seconds, if not minutes of trouble free play before I change my phone number.
All my games come with a patented power saving mode that you'll see the savings on your next power bill. No matter how hard you try, you won't get this baby to power up.
So call me.... call me now on 0555 4234 our operators are waiting. ^^^
I see that your operators are standing by, maybe they should stop standing and answer the phone????
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Never heard of Dodgy Steve... has he got machines to sell?? Do you have his contact details at all??.. Bet he is Melb based and shipping will be the killer...
I'm offended, my business name is 'dodgy Robs' and come one, come all and see the wonderful space invaders pinball for only $7999. Yes under 8k for this beauty. But wait there's more...... you get free of charge seconds, if not minutes of trouble free play before I change my phone number.
All my games come with a patented power saving mode that you'll see the savings on your next power bill. No matter how hard you try, you won't get this baby to power up.
So call me.... call me now on 0555 4234 our operators are waiting. ^^^
Now Rob, to show the true nerds, geeks people amongst us here, if you had listed your phone number as 555-6969, I'd be interested to see if anyone can pick where that was from?! ()
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Never heard of Dodgy Steve... has he got machines to sell?? Do you have his contact details at all??.. Bet he is Melb based and shipping will be the killer...
I'm offended, my business name is 'dodgy Robs' and come one, come all and see the wonderful space invaders pinball for only $7999. Yes under 8k for this beauty. But wait there's more...... you get free of charge seconds, if not minutes of trouble free play before I change my phone number.
All my games come with a patented power saving mode that you'll see the savings on your next power bill. No matter how hard you try, you won't get this baby to power up.
So call me.... call me now on 0555 4234 our operators are waiting. ^^^
Now Rob, to show the true nerds, geeks people amongst us here, if you had listed your phone number as 555-6969, I'd be interested to see if anyone can pick where that was from?! ()
Ken Sent Me.
Buy prophylactic.
Have I achieved nerd status? #@#
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Alt-X if I remember correctly to bypass that pesky age verification.... Ahh the memories..
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EDIT: Don't give it away just yet. #@#
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No Nino, these guys are not doing you or anyone else a favor
The average buyer does not understand the difference between you and dodgy Steve, all they know is they spent big money on something that never works
Unfortunately, fleabay works against buyers. They buy the over priced machines off eBay, leave feedback and then they do their homework only to find out that they over paid and didn't get what they thought they would.
You just described my first purchase Nino. I way over paid considering the condition and it took me about a month to find out just how badly I'd been ripped off as I really didn't know the full extent of what was wrong until I found someone to help me fix it. It ended up costing me around $1000 in parts and a lot of heartache to get it working properly. Fortunately I meet Pintoxicated (Blair) who lives in my area and he helped me get it all working or it would have cost me a lot more again in time and labour.
Unfortunately it seems to be a very common initiation into the pinball hobby.
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Never heard of Dodgy Steve... has he got machines to sell?? Do you have his contact details at all??.. Bet he is Melb based and shipping will be the killer...
I'm offended, my business name is 'dodgy Robs' and come one, come all and see the wonderful space invaders pinball for only $7999. Yes under 8k for this beauty. But wait there's more...... you get free of charge seconds, if not minutes of trouble free play before I change my phone number.
All my games come with a patented power saving mode that you'll see the savings on your next power bill. No matter how hard you try, you won't get this baby to power up.
So call me.... call me now on 0555 4234 our operators are waiting. ^^^
It sounds like an opportunity to good to pass by Rob. Will you do $7800 off eBay and throw in a set of steak knifes? :lol
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Never heard of Dodgy Steve... has he got machines to sell?? Do you have his contact details at all??.. Bet he is Melb based and shipping will be the killer...
I'm offended, my business name is 'dodgy Robs' and come one, come all and see the wonderful space invaders pinball for only $7999. Yes under 8k for this beauty. But wait there's more...... you get free of charge seconds, if not minutes of trouble free play before I change my phone number.
All my games come with a patented power saving mode that you'll see the savings on your next power bill. No matter how hard you try, you won't get this baby to power up.
So call me.... call me now on 0555 4234 our operators are waiting. ^^^
It sounds like an opportunity to good to pass by Rob. Will you do $7800 off eBay and throw in a set of steak knifes? :lol
No but I'll throw in a leisure suit with Larry embroided on it. @.@
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No but I'll throw in a leisure suit with Larry embroided on it. @.@
Deal! Now I'll have a spare! :D
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You just described my first purchase Nino. I way over paid considering the condition and it took me about a month to find out just how badly I'd been ripped off as I really didn't know the full extent of what was wrong until I found someone to help me fix it. It ended up costing me around $1000 in parts and a lot of heartache to get it working properly. Fortunately I meet Pintoxicated (Blair) who lives in my area and he helped me get it all working or it would have cost me a lot more again in time and labour.
Unfortunately it seems to be a very common initiation into the pinball hobby.
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+1
I was totally done over buy a dealer in NSW
the pin was not even worth the parts ...
and i scraped it
I have keep some parts for a future pin .. maybe
I still wanted one so bad
then i purchased another...
and this was my holy grail ...
but now i am over it ..
I have fully had the all boards repaired
and have spend the time to re rubber this
after i made the decision to move it on
should off rang that 0055 number it would of been cheaper but the wife would of thought... *)*
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Interesting reading over people's stories. I had a similar situation where I was so keen to own a pin and attempt to restore it I ended up with a machine that was way beyond my capabilities and not worth anywhere near what I paid for it.
Second attempt I bought a bunch of projects - gutted the Junkers, shopped one that was essentially complete and ended up selling the rest as Id a) lost interest in learning repairs and b) needed the space bag.
The whole experience left a bad taste in my mouth, but fortunately I had the help of a mate who knows his pins and several cluey people here help out.
I can imagine "Joe Citizen" getting screwed over and deciding owning a pinnie is more trouble than it's worth. Which would really suck :(
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Never heard of Dodgy Steve... has he got machines to sell?? Do you have his contact details at all??.. Bet he is Melb based and shipping will be the killer...
I'm offended, my business name is 'dodgy Robs' and come one, come all and see the wonderful space invaders pinball for only $7999. Yes under 8k for this beauty. But wait there's more...... you get free of charge seconds, if not minutes of trouble free play before I change my phone number.
All my games come with a patented power saving mode that you'll see the savings on your next power bill. No matter how hard you try, you won't get this baby to power up.
So call me.... call me now on 0555 4234 our operators are waiting. ^^^
It sounds like an opportunity to good to pass by Rob. Will you do $7800 off eBay and throw in a set of steak knifes? :lol
No but I'll throw in a leisure suit with Larry embroided on it. @.@
What about some dental floss to make a bikini from? :lol