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Aussie Pinball Forums => New developments => New Developments => Topic started by: Pintoxicated on June 08, 2014, 08:24:59 PM
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Could it finally happen????
http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/kiss-this (http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/kiss-this)
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Meh
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They would probably need to sell in excess of 10,000 units to break even. It will need to be something special to get those sort of numbers these days.
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yeah I read this morning that there was a buzz at some pinball show that this had happened and that Jpop missed out on the license. Maybe Jpop can sell the design to stern that he had recently created.
apparently Kiss wanted to see a physical example not just sketches:
http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=12269.0
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For a machine that's already been done 30 years ago, move along Stern.....stop floggin' a dead horse and try something NEW.
The pinside thread is a perfect indicator of how much it WON'T sell..... ;-)
MM
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with marketing like they did with Metallica on their own website and at concerts etc, the market place potentially is huge and introducing more people to pinball - which isn't a bad thing.
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It might work. I personally would like to see it happen, I dont mind the newer playboy. then again most remakes of movies aren't as good as the first. just my 2c worth.
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I can't say that I am a huge ACDC or Metallica fan but I own both machines now purely because they are good games. As long as Gomez doesn't design it I can see Kiss being a big big seller for Stern. They are due for another big title after Star Trek and Mustang which have been relative flops compared to ACDC and Metallica. If Stern follows the recipes of those machines it will be a success.
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I can't say that I am a huge ACDC or Metallica fan but I own both machines now purely because they are good games. As long as Gomez doesn't design it I can see Kiss being a big big seller for Stern. They are due for another big title after Star Trek and Mustang which have been relative flops compared to ACDC and Metallica. If Stern follows the recipes of those machines it will be a success.
Both Metallica and ACDC were huge hits for Stern. I agree for it to be a winner it will need to have killer gameplay or it will just appeal to the die hard KISS fans only.
Not sure if S.R will be on it. I can see the L.E version going over $12k from the factory if it happens. STERN are due a big release soon as Mustang was a flop....Although the teasers on Facebook suggest another game before KISSRR (or what ever it will be known as)
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KISS could be a great seller ..
but it is all about timing that is right for this maybe they missed the boat ...
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There's no proof - just another rumor. Every time Stern have requested the license, KISS has increased the ante. I can't see Stern taking a hit on this, as KISS always end up in front with merchandising.
I don't think it will ever happen. But if it does, most KISS fans I know will jump straight on it.
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Awesome news gee I hope it happens come on Stern make it happen oh and I'll have a Gene Simmons LE thanks, no silly huge TV screen in the Backbox but a small LCD display say the same size as the larger Sega displays.
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I can't say that I am a huge ACDC or Metallica fan but I own both machines now purely because they are good games. As long as Gomez doesn't design it I can see Kiss being a big big seller for Stern. They are due for another big title after Star Trek and Mustang which have been relative flops compared to ACDC and Metallica. If Stern follows the recipes of those machines it will be a success.
Absolutely. I have no doubt this will be a huge seller if it happens. It will sell on name alone and will hit the ball out of the park if they give the pinheads a machine with great artwork and gameplay. Yes, there is a vocal bunch that hates everything KISS, but I'm willing to bet this will be a record breaker for Stern if they get it right.
I'm looking forward to another great Stern music title after AC/DC and Metallica.
Cheers!
Adam.
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Awesome news gee I hope it happens come on Stern make it happen oh and I'll have a Gene Simmons LE thanks, no silly huge TV screen in the Backbox but a small LCD display say the same size as the larger Sega displays.
even better having a lcd screen in the back of the playfield (Jpops).
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As nice as it would be, I think I would rather see money go into artwork and toys rather than a LCD display that you cant really look at when you are playing.
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Three points ;
1 - If this was true, then KISS Inc would have bragged about it weeks ago. They always announce the product, not the producer. Since when do "lawyers" release pinball news..
2 - KISS will want full control over the use of their music and images. So designers will be given the back seat. So I can't see this EVER working out.
3 - Original members on the game = massive seller. Cover band members (current line up) = lowest selling Stern title in history.
Until it comes from the KISS camp - it is another BS rumor. Garry Stern can wish all he likes, it won't happen.
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Nooooooooooooooooo whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy .
I want original funny themes !!!
WNBJM would have been a refreshing break.
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Metallica was a great success for Stern and saw a move away from Photoshopped art. But, this wasn't a choice Stern wanted to make.. I think youll find that it was stipulated by the band in order for them to grant licence.. Dirty Donnie has been a long time friend of Hetfield and does a lot of art for them. The move away from PS art was gladly received by the pinball community but unfortunately, it didn't indicate a new direction by Stern.
Roll on to another speculation of what the next game could possibly be and KISS is mentioned once again.
To be brutally honest, Stern either hit the nail on the head or get it horribly wrong. If left to their own devices its normally wrong.
IF this pin were to happen, then id say KISS would want a lot of control over how it looks and how it plays.. and so they should. When you have a marketing engine like KISS have, you cant afford a major item like this to be done badly.
OK.. so we want to see games along the lines of Metallica and ACDC... we don't want to see another Rolling Stones... Elvis...Mustang etc.
Stern consistently have more misses than hits... Mustang sees a roll back to old Stern... it looks bloody awful and hasn't been a great success...
.. so you want KISS???.. Better hope Stern hits a rare goal then... personally, if I were a KISS fan, id be hoping they wouldn't be doing it!
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Looks like this is really going to happen judging by the posts on pinside :-) maybe 3rd in line people are still saying walking dead next.
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From the article published in March ;
"Furano is currently in the process of licensing iconic images and photos of Kiss band members from the 1970s."
IF the game does happen (Gary Stern bows to their requests), then it HAS to use the original line up's images. Anything with the cover band members will tank. Proof of this was the 2 shows at Etihad last year. Both shows, all the T-Shirts with the original members were sold out well before the show. There were boxes of T-Shirts with the cover band line up.
None of the Stern designers are KISS fans. If Borg did it, then it would be another failure anyway. I think Trudeau could be the only designer that does not dislike KISS !
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Here's there new tour program cover I'd have that as a translite but with there images up the top on there new pinball :-)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/06/12/esuvaru3.jpg)
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Meh
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here is a link to John's work - looks great but not a fan of the legs colour or design.
http://www.pinballinventor.org/games/kisspinball/main/wlester/main.html
It will be interesting if Stern buys the designs / art off Jpop
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Seems to be alot of negativity around what seems to be a the pending release of a Kiss machine. My prediction as I have said before, with the right designer and artwork, it will be a successful machine for Stern.
I should be used to it in the pinball industry but the negativity and comments surprises me a bit. Guys, it's pinball. History tells us that not every machine is going to make everyone happy and not every machine will be a best seller, Stern alone have proven that. Shouldn't we just be happy that there are new machines still rolling off the production line? Yes some are better than others but jeepers, at least pinball is still alive.
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Not being negative at KISS
Just poking at the KISS fanbois
;)
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Not being negative at KISS
Just poking at the KISS fanbois
;)
Meh
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Yeah if this goes ahead it simply must have proper artwork on it like Metallica did. It would be very disappointing if it didn't. I was curious about Sterns reluctance to do this in the past, obviously it's about cost, but what sort of cost difference are we talking to pay an artist to design something vs messing around with photoshopped images? Is it that much of a deal breaker the cost?
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Yeah if this goes ahead it simply must have proper artwork on it like Metallica did. It would be very disappointing if it didn't. I was curious about Sterns reluctance to do this in the past, obviously it's about cost, but what sort of cost difference are we talking to pay an artist to design something vs messing around with photoshopped images? Is it that much of a deal breaker the cost?
Spot on so let's wait and see some design pictures then judge :-) shame it's attracted so much negativity and it's only just been announced.
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I think it is great that new pins are still coming out, better than nothing and if it grows the pinball market outside of us pinheads then all the better.
People will like themes or it won't be their thing - so be it.
As for the Kiss if it is like Jpop's art, cool, and since I am not a die hard kiss fan but don't mind them or the music, I just see painted faces so not a big issue for me if under those painted faces a few members have changed. If it looks cool, looks like a fun game to play with a great layout and I had the money I would be interested.
Lets just enjoy pinball
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When was the last time Stern chose a theme that was not 20+ old ?
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When was the last time Stern chose a theme that was not 20+ old ?
Look at the MM remake exact copy and 20 years old nothing new there? Pinball company's build what people want as it's a small fan base to sell two. At least with the MM remake the price of the originals will drop and the arse has already falling out of the old kiss games there alot cheaper nowadays.
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Predator
Thunderbirds
Mustang
Wizard of Oz
Kiss
We are an old bunch of guys
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Maybe a musical act that is more recent, like Justin Beiber or Miley Cyruss @@^
Recent themes not 20 years old - Avatar, Shrek, Family Guy, 24, CSI, Transformers..
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Maybe a musical act that is more recent, like Justin Beiber or Miley Cyruss @@^
Recent themes not 20 years old - Avatar, Shrek, Family Guy, 24, CSI, Transformers..
Not sure if your joking but Beiber & Cyruss lol quick way to go broke
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Hasn't Beiber retired?
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Hasn't Beiber retired?
Not sure don't care lol guys a tool
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The way he is going it will be a forced semi retirement due to incarceration.