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Title: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Dimsims on October 08, 2014, 10:44:57 PM: I managed to win a Maverick on Evilbay last week, it was one of mark c's projects pins he had up for grabs.

here are some pics:

(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/1.jpg)
(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/2.jpg)
(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/10.jpg)
(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/11.jpg)

As you can see in the next few pics, the playfield, ramps & drop targets are filthy, lol.
(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/3.jpg)
(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/4.jpg)
(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/5.jpg)
(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/6.jpg)
Dont think any of the rubbers have ever been changed, they look pretty toasty lol.
(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/7.jpg)

Bit of a mess inside:
(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/8.jpg)
(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/9.jpg)

The main thing for me was the Playfield being in great condition *%*
Was a little worried to be honest, until I went to pick it up and saw that the Playfield was in even better condition than first thought $#$
Everything seems to be there, not sure if it works or not ?
They cut the power cable off when I picked it up ( I suppose to cover them selves ? )
It apparently came from Germany ? I checked there power output and they are 220v as well.
So I suppose I just wire it up the same as my other 2 Data East pins ?

Overall it looks like it just needs a good clean, a little cabinet work, wired it up and see if she goes BANG !! lol

Just need to finish the DE Star Wars first :D
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: 4_amusement_only on October 08, 2014, 11:57:34 PM: Yeah they cut off the cable as a legal requirement.

Was that manual left inside it?

Your biggest risk now that it is complete..hoping that huge DMD works.

Interesting how they put the yellow cab protectors on it. Usually that is an indication its going to be serviced and sold working.

Original legs too..even has the warning sticker on the bottom of the back left leg () Looks honest.
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: dealers choice on October 09, 2014, 01:13:38 AM: Don't know what u paid, but great pick up. You'll love playing it when you have finished with it. I love playing mine ^^^
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Strangeways on October 10, 2014, 09:42:56 AM: Regardless of whether the game was stated as being "from a private collection in Germany", or "A museum in Germany" - please DOUBLE CHECK the transformer configuration and have the game plug installed and tag and tested. I get at least one of these "projects" a week and they are very seldom fit the description.

Finger crossed the display works. It should clean up nicely and it is a bit of a sleeper title.
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: pinball god on October 13, 2014, 09:47:59 PM: Good luck with the restore when it does start. Be interested to see the finished product
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Dimsims on October 15, 2014, 11:08:29 PM: I'm going to have a go at getting this going to see if she fires up !

Before I do, if someone could help out with a bit of info about the DMD power plug, then that would be great.

So the machine came with the DMD's power not connected:
(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/12.jpg)

Here is the power cable, you can see one of the wires has been cut (Red) and taped back on the DMD side:
(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/13.jpg)

Here is the other end in connects to:
(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/14.jpg)

So basically what I need to know is the correct pinouts so I can compare what I have.

Thanks in advance *%*
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Dimsims on October 16, 2014, 12:01:35 PM: I did a fair bit of searching on the net last night and this is what I've come up with:

I learnt that there are a couple of different display driver boards for the DMD, the CHERRY, BABCOCK & DALE.
I have a CHERRY:
(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/16.jpg)

So from what I've researched on the CHERRY is that this is the correct pinouts:

(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/15.jpg)

Can anyone confirm this ?

By the looks of my power cable, it came from a BABCOCK display driver board and has been thrown in the bottom of the cabinet.
The power cable has the 5v (Red) wire detached, 2 ground (Black) wires in the middle & 12/18v (blue) wire where the 5v wire is supposed to go.

Again can anyone confirm if my research is correct ?
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Boots on October 16, 2014, 02:15:47 PM: You can at least check the 5v and ground by checking the continuity between the connector pins and the VCC and ground legs of the on board chips
You would have to consult the schematics for the 12/18V
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: dealers choice on October 16, 2014, 06:38:22 PM: Ok , took a few pics for you and put the multi metre on it for you. The red Is the 5 volts. Mine is a cherry as well.I added an extra pic incase you need that one as well. I have a manual but printer isn't working to scan it for you. Sorry.
Bren
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: dealers choice on October 16, 2014, 06:41:24 PM: Sorry put one of my old project pics in by mistake.
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Dimsims on October 16, 2014, 07:14:48 PM: Thanks for the info Boots ^^^

Also those pictures from dealer are a massive help and looks to be exactly what I have, thanks heaps.
All I need to do is change the red and blue wires around and im in business :D
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: dealers choice on October 16, 2014, 07:43:10 PM: If you need any more pics, just ask and I'll sort it for you
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Dimsims on October 17, 2014, 01:01:39 AM: Quote from: dealers choice on October 16, 2014, 07:43:10 PM
If you need any more pics, just ask and I'll sort it for you
Will do, much appreciated ^^^

Ok, so I now have the power to the DMD correct and also installed a new power cord to the machine so I can plug it in the wall.
Roughly went over everything, to make sure there were no bare wires or anything like that.

Plugged it into the wall and prayed it wouldn't go BANG !! lol
Well it didn't go bang :D

So when it did turn on, I hear the horn for the Lauren Belle and the logic board starts with the left & middle LED staying lit up.
But that's it, there's no lights coming on anywhere, no DMD and no buttons do anything.

Can anyone point me in the right direction to start looking ?
I was thinking power supply ?
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Dimsims on October 17, 2014, 01:59:57 AM: Hmmm.....

Starting to wonder if it even has the right power supply in it ? @.@

(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/17.jpg)

Is that one the same as yours dealers choice ?
If not are you able to take a pic of your please %$%
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: studley67 on October 17, 2014, 06:00:18 AM: love the handy work on cn8.lol
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Strangeways on October 17, 2014, 09:55:29 AM: Quote from: Dimsims on October 17, 2014, 01:59:57 AM
Hmmm.....

Starting to wonder if it even has the right power supply in it ? @.@

(http://www.ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/17.jpg)

Is that one the same as yours dealers choice ?
If not are you able to take a pic of your please %$%

Welcome to the world of project pinballs.

That's the wrong power supply. 500-5000-00 is an early power supply (alphanumeric) definitely not suited to your machine. you need a 500-5047-03 - which is the last used for this platform. I've seen early power supplies modified, and they seem to work. Check the cabinet wiring to the DMD as I believe that in some cases the AC HV return is changed at CN1. Just double check with the schematics AFTER you have decided to replace the power supply with the correct one. rottendog made a solid board compatible with this game.

CN3 - is just some funky wiring - a hack, or shortcut, rather than a repair !
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Dimsims on October 17, 2014, 10:37:31 PM: Yeah there's some interesting "quick fixes" I can see @.@

I've found this board on Evilbay, but the postage drives the price up heaps, especially after converting to AUD.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/New-Power-Supply-Board-for-Data-East-Sega-Games-520-5047-03-Free-Shipping-/221573086678?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3396c8fdd6

The seller has had very good feedback for them.
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: dealers choice on October 18, 2014, 08:04:10 AM: +1 for Nino
Before you go looking on flea bay etc. Why don't you ask the question here in the trader section under parts wanted. I've got a few parts like that
Bren
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Dimsims on October 18, 2014, 01:19:04 PM: Cheers again for that dealers choice ^^^

I've put up a wanted request for the power supply, keep forgetting about that section @.@

Ill most likely have to go over all the wires as someone may have changed things around when they put the power supply that's in it &^&
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: dealers choice on October 18, 2014, 04:37:21 PM: No probs, I'll send u more pics when u need them.
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Dimsims on October 18, 2014, 04:45:57 PM: Quote from: dealers choice on October 18, 2014, 04:37:21 PM
No probs, I'll send u more pics when u need them.

Cheers mate ^^^

I put up a new post in the "Wanted" section of the Pinball Trader, hopefully I'm in luck.
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Klondike on October 29, 2014, 02:13:13 AM: Hope you get Mav up and running soon, it's a great game!
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Dimsims on February 28, 2015, 12:28:37 AM: Finally got around to buying a power supply for this, I bought it last week and should arrive end of next week.

I ended up getting one from evilbay:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/221690773472?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

I found and read his feedback from other buyers that bought the same power supply and they're all saying good things (Fingers crossed)

I'm looking for to seeing if this thing fires up :D

One I know it works and find any faults, i'l start to tare down.

There shouldn't be much work as far as the playfield goes, just allot of cleaning.
The cabinet in a mess though and will need a few repairs and some paint done.
Hopefully the brown isn't hard to get matched.
Does anyone else know of a good match ?
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: andypinboy on February 28, 2015, 10:42:57 AM: You are a brave man!! Big project - I'm looking fwd to following the ride ()
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Klondike on February 28, 2015, 08:17:32 PM: Quote from: Dimsims on February 28, 2015, 12:28:37 AM

Hopefully the brown isn't hard to get matched.
Does anyone else know of a good match ?

Maybe the colour's 'Mission Brown' or a nice Kiwi Brown shoe polish colour. :tumble:
I remember I just got some watercolours and mixed up the right shade for the few little marks on mine.
I hope you get her going soon, it's a really fun game. I recently had my Power supply board rebuilt and now Mav plays perfectly so I hope it fixes yours up too!
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Dimsims on March 05, 2015, 09:41:45 PM: The new power supply arrived today #@#

I had to do a little wire work so I happy enough to test the machine, turned it on......
AND IT WORKS !! $#$
Including the DMD :D

Had a little game and everything seems to be working except as you can see in the picture below, Frankenstein is on the DMD instead of Maverick *!@

(http://ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/19.jpg)
(http://ttrracing.com/admin/Pictures/DESW/Mav/20.jpg)

Is this just one of the IC chips that needs to be changed ?
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: studley67 on March 05, 2015, 09:50:26 PM: yes or re-programed
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Dimsims on March 05, 2015, 11:31:08 PM: Quote from: studley67 on March 05, 2015, 09:50:26 PM
yes or re-programed
Thanks studley67 ^^^

I'd say this will do the trick ?:
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/220866411947?_trksid=p2060778.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Or does anyone here sell them ?
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: Boots on March 05, 2015, 11:39:37 PM: Better off talking to Ken (skybeaux) or Andy (beaky) they will be able to help you
Title: Re: The next project in the works: Maverick
Post by: andypinboy on March 06, 2015, 09:36:43 AM: IT'S ALIVE!!! The one & only Maverstein - hehe. That's great it's firing up $#$ Please keep the updates coming.