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Aussie Pinball Forums => Restorations => Topic started by: riverinapinball on November 25, 2014, 04:36:44 PM
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I acquired a Black Hole in March 2013, after sourcing parts and sitting on it for while on Friday last week, I finally was able to move it from the garage to my home office.
First I would to start with f@$k these machines are heavy!
Repinn ef a missing connector was cut off.
Then I replaced the power supply board, MPU and driver boards with a Pascal board. I didn't want to mess around with original boards as pcb repair is not my strong point. Also my experience with pascal board has be great. I have several in my system 1s.
I removed the lower playfield for ease of access while I work on it.
Replace one coil so far. Large drop target bank cool with fried.
Replace 4 displays with spares I had. No look nice and bright . I would like to thank
Blair for his advice about rejuvenating these display.
Tightened the screw on both bottom transformers as they were loose and buzzing.
Replace a lots of fuses quite a few were blown, a few over sized fuses replaced with correct ones. I did put some 3amp fuses were there was 2.5amp. I have thought about putting 2amp ones..not sure these drive the Pop bumpers individually .
Metered all the coils to check for shorts or open circuits.
Replace 2 pop bumper boards as one missing the other suspicious (blow fuse associated) .
Replace a lot of lamps.
Games is booting up ok, with most lamps on the upper Playford working except 1. I will check the plugs soon
I have new plastics , rubbers, flipper bats, new drop targets, new lower playfield window, yet to install.
Just a few pics, nothing really interesting yet.(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/83e6157628f28ab107a0fee017a709d3.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/567bb3e47d203eb0ae4bc53dd5a4b502.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/2d32ba52d954932c487291d74d95d13f.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/0e70d7544730bb14d7130bd78a3a064e.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/ec2ba857e487914003756b08a3475b29.jpg)
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sweet, I will enjoy your write up
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Amazing game. Difficult to work on due to it's weight, but the reward is a fully working machine. I will follow with interest !
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Great stuff Dan, this will be fantastic to see up and running. I'll also be following with interest. ^^^
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I'm looking for an original Black Hole MPU and maybe a driver board if it is in good condition, let me know if you want to sell them.
Thanks.
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Good stuff Dan. I will be keeping an eye on the progress as well. You cant go wrong with the Pascal boards. He also has pop bumper boards for the Sys 80 machines if you ever need replacements.
Keep the updates coming.
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Watching with interest, particulaly keen on how the Pascal performs as I have original boards in mine but lots of success with those in other games. Worth the extra functions alone.
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I'm looking for an original Black Hole MPU and maybe a driver board if it is in good condition, let me know if you want to sell them.
Thanks.
My boards have already been sold off sorry.
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Good stuff Dan. I will be keeping an eye on the progress as well. You cant go wrong with the Pascal boards. He also has pop bumper boards for the Sys 80 machines if you ever need replacements.
Keep the updates coming.
Pascal boards for me is certainly the way to go. With the addition of test functions, game options , high scores 1 to 5 saved. They have great features.
I got some Pop bumper boards from Mike Homepin.
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Pascal boards are brilliant, but it does not support all SYS 80/a/b boards. The new Rottendog does. There's also another great board done by Swemmer Electronics.
I've used a Rottendog in a James Bond and it works flawlessly - and this game was a parts machine brought back from the dead.
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Good to see another Black Hole being resurrected . Will watch with interest . Hoping to get back to working on mine soon.
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Yesterday started , replace insert lamps , changing them to leds.
I will not be doing and cabinet or playfield touch ups
Next is to strip the playfields, clean , install new plastics, rubbers etc .
Hope to have in going by Xmas, if not before.
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Some pics of the playfield before cleaning.
Also someone in their wisdom, has put post or something to block the left capture hole.
Playfield overall looks pretty good.
Under the bumpers is a bit rough as they normally are.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/27/c10aae21eb26f9b5e32172915610d73e.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/27/a39c710b753dbd2aa7c5a180f2a3f7de.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/27/d717f72ad1d9297d6d965b6e8f0e3731.jpg)
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(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/27/e530f6010c3ccdc217c97f50fb0ed9cb.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/27/ad688107d7a51e43b5dfc12c6c279d1d.jpg)
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Every plastic except for one was cracked or broken.
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Posts in front of the capture hole is a new one - that's to prevent multiball. Your playfield is pretty good - not as much wear around the pop bumpers.
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Why put black rubber on this game *.* Playfield looks pretty good .
Lucky you have a new plastic set .. as do I.
I must get around to selling my old plastics most of which are in good shape .
Did you source your new ones from PBR ? Are they making low PF plastic set yet ?
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Putting white rubber on it. Haven't started putting on rubber yet..
I have both upper and lower plastics . Yes Pbr do both . I got the lower playfield ones earlier in the year
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Putting white rubber on it. Haven't started putting on rubber yet..
I have both upper and lower plastics . Yes Pbr do both . I got the lower playfield ones earlier in the year
Nuts .. PBR were out of stock of the lower PF plastic set when I placed my last order .. maybe next time
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That playfield looks great for age of machine. Should come up a treat. Inserts look nice and flat.
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I acquired a Black Hole in March 2013, after sourcing parts and sitting on it for while on Friday last week, I finally was able to move it from the garage to my home office.
First I would to start with f@$k these machines are heavy!
Repinn ef a missing connector was cut off.
Then I replaced the power supply board, MPU and driver boards with a Pascal board. I didn't want to mess around with original boards as pcb repair is not my strong point. Also my experience with pascal board has be great. I have several in my system 1s.
I removed the lower playfield for ease of access while I work on it.
Replace one coil so far. Large drop target bank cool with fried.
Replace 4 displays with spares I had. No look nice and bright . I would like to thank
Blair for his advice about rejuvenating these display.
Tightened the screw on both bottom transformers as they were loose and buzzing.
Replace a lots of fuses quite a few were blown, a few over sized fuses replaced with correct ones. I did put some 3amp fuses were there was 2.5amp. I have thought about putting 2amp ones..not sure these drive the Pop bumpers individually .
Metered all the coils to check for shorts or open circuits.
Replace 2 pop bumper boards as one missing the other suspicious (blow fuse associated) .
Replace a lot of lamps.
Games is booting up ok, with most lamps on the upper Playford working except 1. I will check the plugs soon
I have new plastics , rubbers, flipper bats, new drop targets, new lower playfield window, yet to install.
Just a few pics, nothing really interesting yet.(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/83e6157628f28ab107a0fee017a709d3.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/567bb3e47d203eb0ae4bc53dd5a4b502.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/2d32ba52d954932c487291d74d95d13f.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/0e70d7544730bb14d7130bd78a3a064e.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/11/24/ec2ba857e487914003756b08a3475b29.jpg)
Wow, I wouldn't wanna make a mistake when adjusting the sound volume.
Nice work Dan. :-) Z
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Ok, I have put the lower playfield back in. New plastics and drop targets installed.(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/02/56c0e64939362e44bc59aa2a3811187e.jpg)
I couple of problems I have noticed.
2 or 3 voice sounds not working properly.
Gate coil is buzzing a lot. Tried adjusting will no luck. New coil I think
Needs spinner motor replaced. I have one , was going to leave it for last.
Sometimes the bottom playfield up kicker intermittently doesn't kick . Switch?or coil??connector?
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/02/4989b992cd89657921604cfe1236f56a.jpg)
I went to replace the lane guards which I ordered ages ago from Marco speciality , blood wrong ones they sent me 1 1/8 not 2 1/8 .
Other than that I can play a game.
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Still haven't installed the upper playfield plastics, I will wait until a get the right lane guards.
Also install all new flipper bats. I may need some new coil sleeves. Flippers seems ok.
All gi is now working. Only one insert not working probably connectors.
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Fantastic work Dan, great progress and at least now you can enjoy a game while you work our the remaining issues. ^^^
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Still haven't installed the upper playfield plastics, I will wait until a get the right lane guards.
Also install all new flipper bats. I may need some new coil sleeves. Flippers seems ok.
All gi is now working. Only one insert not working probably connectors.
Connectors, connectors and connectors. Ground mods are a must.
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What a great old game This was another from my past You done a nice job well done Howzat
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(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/08/a5ca5699f93624d96b9fe321cecbede3.jpg)
I have taken out the blue window, will install a new one.
I have also order a length of 40mm acrylic tube to replace the re-entry tube.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/08/c6a44d4dd14d541182c542b629af0b46.jpg)
New upper playfield drop targets installed.
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Playfield window now in.
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/09/1223952f8fc1fd20af73995452a6192f.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/09/761ae608582a6aace3879ea4a4dffd3f.jpg)
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(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/09/2989d80997535e928bf581b7c75c77bd.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/12/09/779ee283075d59f46aa15db3747e5a76.jpg)
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I hate this game and yet always want one. o think because it beats me 99/100 that I hate it but thats a good thing for challenge and interest longevity. Your game looks great and coming along nicely
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Your thread is making me want to get stuck back into fixing mine up, but have 2 other games higher in the queue ..
I have a new playfield window for mine too, makes a huge difference ^^^
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Black Hole and Spirit were the only 2 late SS Gottlieb games I played frequently on site when they were released. BH has the best ever designed lower playfield - genius.
This one is coming up nice and brings back memories.
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Looking Good , The new window looks great , Don't forget the globes that light up the Lower Playfield are 24V!! , Use #313 lamps. Mounted around the underside of the new window.
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Looking Good , The new window looks great , Don't forget the globes that light up the Lower Playfield are 24V!! , Use #313 lamps. Mounted around the underside of the new window.
Yep already done.
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Oh good , I blew up a few 44"s before i worked out what was going on %.%
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Yes I know there were 24v lamps on the game took me a while to trace which were which , followed the power cable to the solenoids.
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Yes I know there were 24v lamps on the game took me a while to trace which were which , followed the power cable to the solenoids.
When I finally get around to the restoration of my game, I plan to convert that lower playfield illumination to 6 volt - info here http://www.pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Gottlieb_System_80#Replacing_Black_Hole_Lower_Playfield_Illumination_Lamps_with_.2344_Lamps
Pretty simple and effective mod.
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Just catching up again on your progress Dan, it's really coming along beautifully. Such a cool game, I'm jealous.
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Machine is now almost 100%
Youtube video
http://youtu.be/-SHvsiuOBwM
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Looks fantastic, well done! ^^^
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Thanks, another video
Take a look at this video on YouTube:
http://youtu.be/reEmQffd1tM
Dan Arico
Sent from my iPhone
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Very nice work Dan . Congrats on resurrecting your game ^^^
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looks great
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Really really nice Dan! Well done, you have to be happy with that. ^^^
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Yeh real happy, was a much easier fix in the end. Very happy. The pascal mpu and swemmer sound/speech board are awesome. The spinner motor is noisier than i had hoped, but is ok.
Bloody hard game, or just my poor pinball skills.