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Aussie Pinball Forums => General Discussion => General Pinball Discussion => Topic started by: swinks on January 05, 2015, 03:01:57 PM
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looks like the next game to be released this week is WrestleMania unless an elaborate trick at the beginning of the year - not what I was expecting.
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WWE is heading into WOZ territory as far as themes go.
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WWE is heading into WOZ territory as far as themes go.
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yeah but nah! not for me %%$
could be a fun game, but on theme alone, no thank you Mr Gary
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surely there are better themes around? !@#
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You can't please everyone !
I was right into the WWF in the 90's and I'll never forget the first time I watched "Hell in a Cell - Undertaker VS Mankind". Yes - I know it is all rehearsed and staged, but it was great entertainment then. Fast forward to 2014 - and my son is NUTS about WWE. I've watched a few PPVs and the new "hip" branding of wrestlers is MASSIVE with the kids. They STILL fill out arenas in the States. The kids still flock to see their heroes, and the parents watch the Divas.
Is is smart move that I think is more or less aimed at the kids, the Mum's that love the muscles and the Dad's that love the Divas.
It is not a movie, a band, a horror theme or a comic pinball. It is a bit "left field". WWE Wrestling is part of Americana. It won't do well here, because WWE is not big here (Think Big Buck Hunter)..
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I don't care to much about theme but the roll back to photoshop artwork is very disappointing
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I personally don't care for the theme either, but apart from all that, it's Stern consistently releasing a brand new pinball machine. Can't please everyone.
As for Photoshop artwork, a lot can be dictated by the license holder. See - The Hobbit. People weren't too happy about The Hobbit's playfield artwork, but there was talk on Pinside that they had strict licensing conditions that they had to work with. With Metallica, it was a case of the band wanting Dirty Donny artwork which ended up working in Stern's favour as it was a breath of fresh air to the hobbyists that wanted hand drawn artwork.
After the dust has settled, I look forward to seeing this game in action and having my first game on it.
Cheers!
Adam.
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It is not a movie, a band, a horror theme or a comic pinball. It is a bit "left field".
The theme is about as commercial as you can get. Not much different to any of the above.
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You cant hit a home run with every machine you produce... there will be titles that stand out as great machines ( Metallica, ACDC, TWD) and there will be titles that are just " run of the mill"... along with Mustang, Rolling Stones, BBH... this may well sit nicely
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You cant hit a home run with every machine you produce... there will be titles that stand out as great machines ( Metallica, ACDC, TWD) and there will be titles that are just " run of the mill"... along with Mustang, Rolling Stones, BBH... this may well sit nicely
Agreed (or is it like these days) *)*
Normally there is the 'ho-humm' releases before a big one. I'm hoping the next biggy is not KISS and maybe something original, or just take all the good things from Metallica, ACDC, TWD and mash it together.
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It is not a movie, a band, a horror theme or a comic pinball. It is a bit "left field".
The theme is about as commercial as you can get. Not much different to any of the above.
"left field" = expectation that the next title was GOTU (movie), KISS (band), Iron Maiden (band) or Jaws (horror/movie).
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Interesting choice for the next title.
Does Stern need more local sales, 'cause I can't see them selling many anywhere other than the US?
I kind of hope that it's an awesome machine actually.
How funny would that be if it plays brilliantly and no one over here bought one? %.%
There's been machines before with sucky themes that were great players, just saying. !@#
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Not for me. Didn't like the other wrestle themes so this will do the same for me.
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Stern will be saving their trump card title for the second half of the year for when JJP gets production of TH underway and some of these boutiques might actually start moving finished product out the door (cough cough Predator). They did the same strategy with ACDC/WOZ.
WWE is 2014's Mustang. Ignoring the theme, the playfield design itself looks interesting. Hopefully the ring upper level playfield has some decent ball interaction.
Seemingly no oversized bash toys. !@#
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My guess is that Stern have a commitment to producing say 4 titles a year.. some will be major and high sellers, others will be expected to reach lesser sales.
Agreed that this is a lesser and there will be a major title released later in the year.
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Theme? Um well I loved wrestling years ago and if it's on foxtel now I'll watch but maybe for the reason Nino detailed && I'm looking forward to the PF layout especially the wrestling ring at the top of the PF. Looking forward to the KISS announcement Middle of the year ()
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Do these companies approach Stern or does stern Approach these companies to build these licensed themes?
I can understand this theme if WWE approached Stern to make a pinball.
Is that what is going on here and Stern isnt actually coming up with the titles at all?
Regards Rich
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Does anyone know where those photos were taken ?
It's very unusual for Stern to release photos of a title before they do a proper press release ?
I actually love the look of this machine.
It would sit perfectly next to my mint Data East Widebody Royal Rumble.
It will sell well in the USA and is a breath of fresh air when it comes to title ideas.
Uniqueness is what attracts people to play pinball machines.
Looking forward to playing this one.
Why hasn't Stern done a Military based pinball. It would sell well in the USA and military styled pinnies are few n far between.
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Does anyone know where those photos were taken ?
It's very unusual for Stern to release photos of a title before they do a proper press release ?
I actually love the look of this machine.
It would sit perfectly next to my mint Data East Widebody Royal Rumble.
It will sell well in the USA and is a breath of fresh air when it comes to title ideas.
Uniqueness is what attracts people to play pinball machines.
Looking forward to playing this one.
Why hasn't Stern done a Military based pinball. It would sell well in the USA and military styled pinnies are few n far between.
photos came from Stern's facebook, were up and then gone, but it was from the CES tradeshow event that just started.
http://cesweb.org/Events-Programs/CES-Unveiled/CES-Unveiled-Las-Vegas
I am hoping for a Fast and Furious as the movie is due out in April could time nicely and have been some rumours about it being done by Stern.
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The photos are still up.
https://www.facebook.com/sternpinball (https://www.facebook.com/sternpinball)
Whoops, no they're not.
You can see they were taken at CES 2015 though.
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The photos are still up.
https://www.facebook.com/sternpinball (https://www.facebook.com/sternpinball)
Whoops, no they're not.
You can see they were taken at CES 2015 though.
nup, picture or it didn't happen Dude %.%
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Fast n Furious movies are all the same to me and since I am a car guy, I lost interest when they were doing stuff in cars repeatedly that was just unrealistic and impossible. Short of having a Delorian which could fly, the movies just got unbelievable.
The only realistic thing about that franchise was the star Paul Walker getting barbecued when offset his mates Porsche hit a real life telegraph pole and they both died.
Ironic that all the accidents in the six or seven movies couldn't scratch him but his first real accident did.
Sad but we all know you don't get many chances in real life crashes. I can't see them doing another car pinny after Mustang being only just done.?
Maybe Stern will do the press release very soon for WWE Pinny ?
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Fast n Furious movies are all the same to me and since I am a car guy, I lost interest when they were doing stuff in cars repeatedly that was just unrealistic and impossible. Short of having a Delorian which could fly, the movies just got unbelievable.
The only realistic thing about that franchise was the star Paul Walker getting barbecued when offset his mates Porsche hit a real life telegraph pole and they both died.
Ironic that all the accidents in the six or seven movies couldn't scratch him but his first real accident did.
Sad but we all know you don't get many chances in real life crashes. I can't see them doing another car pinny after Mustang being only just done.?
Maybe Stern will do the press release very soon for WWE Pinny ?
Your justification just doesn't make sense, so X-men and Avengers that you highly talk about is believable? Yes guys jumping off a car over a bridge gap is far fetched but it's the movies just enjoy. Even the Wrestlemania pin is all actors and scrippted (yes added a p so it wouldn't hash out), thats the fun part of pinball you can leave your world you live and just enjoy the game for what it is.
Stern did AC/DC and Metallica fairly close together as well as X-Men and Avengers so no reason not F & F as Mustang isn't a raging success but picking up a little momentum. I agree though that Stern pumps out variety and allows most people to at least like a one or a few each year.
Most of the F & F movies grossed really well and reckon if you had a game that combined all 7 movies with a drift comp, street race, car heist, fuel heist etc, money grab & escape - basically a mission from each movie within the one pin it could be fun. The fact that Paul Walker died is irrelevant to the movie or a possible pin and probably a little distasteful with the way you stated it as unfortunately he was the passenger and died due to the other guy driving.
But I am sure if Stern does make it and in 4-6 months you will turn and love what Stern are doing.
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No, if Stern do a Fast n Furious I will never buy it cause it doesn't appeal to me. Others are welcome to enjoy it but I can't see it getting done. I am not canning your personal idea, just didn't think that pin would get made.
Yes Paul Walker did die in a car crash as a passenger. Terribly sad. He got in the car to go for a test run. That has been well documented. He knew the risks surely. The only thing distasteful is that two people died. Wasn't happy the man died at all ! ! Far from it.
As for X Men And Avengers, they are pure make believe so anything goes in anything sci fi etc but if u do a earth based movie based on modern day technology, my brain can't enjoy a real car flying thru the air 500 metres and landing without any damage. It's not believable to me at all and I don't enjoy make believe unless it is sci fi. Each to their own.
I am a fan of Stern so I am behind anything they bring to market, but it doesn't mean I like or buy every single title.
I loved ACDC but not Metallica cause I don't like their music. But am glad various friends bought that title. Etc etc.
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Do these companies approach Stern or does stern Approach these companies to build these licensed themes?
I can understand this theme if WWE approached Stern to make a pinball.
Is that what is going on here and Stern isnt actually coming up with the titles at all?
Regards Rich
In my opinion - Market research - then Stern go after the license.
WOZ is a classic example. Here in Oz, we laugh at the theme - but in the USA, certain brands mean big $. Stern would be listening to pinball fans at shows and social media. They would have an idea of what is "hot" and what licenses can be utilized to make the profits roll in. Stern have acquired licenses that they might not use now. KISS is the example - they have the license, but what do they do with it ? how do they PRESENT the game - marketing is not an issue. Same as AC/DC and Metallica - fans are nuts and will buy expensive toys. WWE is a good them for the USA market, but I'm hearing it has the crappy photoshopped art. cutting corners already ? I know Stern has been asking for the KISS license since 2008-2009. They would be locking in other licenses and they would have planned at least the next 2-3 titles.
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There is one thing to consider about photoshopped art on modern pinball playfields.
When the average person walks up to a brand new pinball machine who hasnt been a pinball enthusiast for years or decades, it would probably look modern and well designed.
Short of cartoon art or Dirty Donny styled art, what else can be done on a modern Playfield for a modern age.
Photoshopped art is merely a collage of pictures within a movie or current theme.
What else can they do if they don't do cartoon or hand drawn pictures.
Licensing would want art to be identical to the real images so hand drawn art may not be close enough ?
I think photoshopped playfields get a hard time where it may not be necessary. Only my opinion.
Would be good to hear what others think the Wrestling pin could have which would be better than the modern style photo art they are using. ! ? !
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More interesting is the hardware running it
SAM is gone, replaced with SPIKETM
Looks like a PC based systen
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All the photos of the entire WrestleMania pinball are up on Sterns Facebook and normal home website.
I would download all the photos but am on the road and am in bad coverage.
The new Pinny looks great with metal ramps. Stayed true to the original Data East version a bit for sure. Looks like fun.
The new board set is up on their announcements as well like Pete said . Very interesting times ahead.
Wi Fi now included for code updates I think if I am reading it right with newer USB port for a cable download as well. Very cool.
Well done Gary.
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Movies of the new pinball up on YouTube and Facebook.
The Verge website did a movie clip at the same place the original photos on this thread were taken at.
Will keep looking to see if Stern has done their own movie release yet.
Dam this playfield and its insert lighting looks great.
I wouldn't be surprised if John Trudeau designed this table cause the playfield lighting looks dam nice like Mustangs playfield did. Very pretty. Use of colours on playfield looks awesome.
Now 3 channel stereo so no need for aftermarket speaker kits which I never bought anyway. Stock audio was already sensational. Now even better !
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Stern have played it smart with the LE this time introducing the classic wrestlers that we grew up with for the LE's. It's one way to ensure lots of LE's Selling - see the red section below.
You can only assume the Premium will be LE game features but Pro art...... potentially makes the LE more valuable in years to come.
Stern Pinball Is Ready to Rumble
World’s Leading Maker of Arcade-Quality Pinball Games Introduces WWE Wrestlemania Pinball at the 2015 Consumer Electronics Show
Wrestling legend Hulk Hogan to autograph Limited Edition Versions
MELROSE PARK, IL – January 5, 2015 – Stern Pinball, Inc., the world's oldest and largest producer of arcade-quality pinball games, introduced today the new WWE Wrestlemania pinball machine at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES 2015) in Las Vegas, Nevada. WWE Wrestlemania will be available in both Pro and Limited Edition models.
WWE Wrestlemania calls players into the ring as WWE superstars embarking on a quest to become the WWE worldwide heavyweight champion. Players train their wrestlers and then compete in a series of matches leading them on the road to Wrestlemania.
The WWE Pro and the Limited Edition machines feature an innovative upper pinball playfield wrestling ring. With the flipper buttons, players control two “Slammer” slingshot-style kickers in the ropes of the ring. Completing the three drop target bank starts a wrestling match. Players rack up points and pin opponents in the ring by shooting into a kick out hole. Keeping the ball in the ring and hitting as many targets as possible will advance players through the match. Multiple ramps guide the ball throughout gameplay, while brilliant lightshows highlight the all LED playfield. Ten licensed songs include intro music for wrestlers that players choose. WWE announcers Jerry “the King” Lawlor and Michael Cole add play by play excitement.
Wrestling legend Hulk Hogan will individually autograph each of the numbered WWE Legends of Wrestlemania Limited Edition (LE) machines on a bottom arch mounted gold plaque. With only 400 autographs available, this collectible must be limited to that number of games. The LE game art features classic WWE stars, of course including Hulk Hogan. Actual WWE wrestling action is projected on the LE’s replica “Titantron” playfield level 5.7 inch LCD directly above the ring. The ball is always wild when it comes into contact with the LE’s exclusive "Chaos" spinning DISC while a third “Wham! Arm” flipper allows players to knock the ball off a wire ramp.
“The WWE franchise features unique characters and fantastic action sequences that are captured in these pinball machines. WWE Wrestlemania pinball games will appeal to a very large and diverse group of both WWE and pinball fans,” said Gary Stern, Chairman and CEO of Stern Pinball. “This game is unique with an innovative wrestling ring and other features that will captivate pinball players of all skill levels.”
WWE Wrestlemania is the first pinball machine to feature Stern’s recently announced SPIKETM electronics hardware system. The new technology reduces product complexity and simplifies
manufacturing, resulting in more reliable and easier-to-service games. SPIKETM is both modular and scalable, accommodating and supporting future designs. Players will quickly appreciate higher quality sound, enhanced illumination effects and a more engaging overall game experience.
At the CES 2015 Stern will also be showing its Star Trek, The Walking Dead, and Ford Mustang pinball machines.
Pricing and Availability:
WWE Wrestlemania Pro Model: $5,995 (MSRP)
About WWE
WWE, a publicly traded company (NYSE: WWE), is an integrated media organization and recognized leader in global entertainment. The company consists of a portfolio of businesses that create and deliver original content 52 weeks a year to a global audience. WWE is committed to family friendly entertainment on its television programming, pay-per-view, digital media and publishing platforms. WWE programming reaches more than 650 million homes worldwide in 35 languages. WWE Network, the first-ever 24/7 over-the-top premium network that includes all 12 live pay-per-views, scheduled programming and a massive video-on- demand library, is currently available in more than 170 countries. The company is headquartered in Stamford, Conn., with offices in New York, Los Angeles, London, Mexico City, Mumbai, Shanghai, Singapore, Dubai, Munich and Tokyo. For more information, please visit www.wwe.com.
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http://www.theverge.com/2015/1/5/7492891/wrestlemania-pinball-machine-stern-linux
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Hulk Hogan from DE Royal Rumble ! He sits up top and watches the pinball games.
Ding Ding Ding ! TAG !
Hulk Hogan . Urrgghhhh ! Look at my muscles ! %.% %.%
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Hulk Hogan LE !
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Hulk Hogan LE !
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small gameplay clip
http://youtu.be/2s2AjJ4mZEM
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Add a solenoid behind it = working topper.
(http://www.byhigh.org/History/VictoryBell/aaaElementarySchoolBell3.jpg)
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Topper for WWE Wrestlemania will be like the original on DE Royal Rumble.
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a basic video, looks like they are using similar to sling shot leversd as flippers in the top playfield - a good compact option
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a basic video, looks like they are using similar to sling shot leversd as flippers in the top playfield - a good compact option
Not a fan of the theme but its good to see something different than just ramps and bash toys on the playfield.
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I would be happier to put a fresh dog turd in my games room than this abomination.
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I would be happier to put a fresh dog turd in my games room than this abomination.
now that's novel
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I would be happier to put a fresh dog turd in my games room than this abomination.
no no , don't hold back , tell us how you really think Dude %.% ^^^
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Has there been any mention of what extra playfield features will be on the LE?
If not, I'm wondering if there will be no Premium model, with the LE being only cosmetically different to the Pro. The game feels like it is pitched more to operators rather than the home. Just a hunch.
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There are 3 or 4 differences mechanically with the LE. It's contained in the huge Stern press release and on their site.
Artwork different as well.
Premium will feature diff cabinet art as usual and prob same LE Playfield features and its own translite.
Just look at all who have come before, like TWD or Star Trek or Mustang and you prob know what will follow next.
The Pro is always exceptional value for money and always feature packed.
JOhn Trudeau built Mustang. I believe he built WWE Wrestling. Mustang playfield and lighting on the Pro feels like a LE.
This WWE Pro lights up like the LE. Looks awesome already.
Le pitched to home and siting. Prob 80 percent to home.
Premium to home or siting. Prob half to each.
Pro to home or siting. Prob half to each.
That's what Stern usually tells me on most recent titles.
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Has there been any mention of what extra playfield features will be on the LE?
If not, I'm wondering if there will be no Premium model, with the LE being only cosmetically different to the Pro. The game feels like it is pitched more to operators rather than the home. Just a hunch.
From Wresting Inc (I like to state sources of info)
http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2015/0105/588229/more-details-on-stern-new-wwe-wrestlemania-pinball-game/
As noted, Stern Pinball will be releasing a WWE WrestleMania pinball machine later this year. This will be Stern's newest, most technologically advanced table and will go for around $5,500. Below are more details released today:
Stern Pinball Is Ready to Rumble
World's Leading Maker of Arcade-Quality Pinball Games Introduces WWE Wrestlemania Pinball at the 2015 Consumer Electronics Show
Wrestling legend Hulk Hogan to autograph Limited Edition Versions
MELROSE PARK, IL – January 5, 2015 – Stern Pinball, Inc., the world's oldest and largest producer of arcade-quality pinball games, introduced today the new WWE Wrestlemania pinball machine at the Consumer Electronics Show (CES 2015) in Las Vegas, Nevada. WWE Wrestlemania will be available in both Pro and Limited Edition models.
WWE Wrestlemania calls players into the ring as WWE superstars embarking on a quest to become the WWE worldwide heavyweight champion. Players train their wrestlers and then compete in a series of matches leading them on the road to Wrestlemania.
The WWE Pro and the Limited Edition machines feature an innovative upper pinball playfield wrestling ring. With the flipper buttons, players control two "Slammer" slingshot-style kickers in the ropes of the ring. Completing the three drop target bank starts a wrestling match. Players rack up points and pin opponents in the ring by shooting into a kick out hole. Keeping the ball in the ring and hitting as many targets as possible will advance players through the match. Multiple ramps guide the ball throughout gameplay, while brilliant lightshows highlight the all LED playfield. Ten licensed songs include intro music for wrestlers that players choose. WWE announcers Jerry "the King" Lawlor and Michael Cole add play by play excitement.
Wrestling legend Hulk Hogan will individually autograph each of the numbered WWE Legends of Wrestlemania Limited Edition (LE) machines on a bottom arch mounted gold plaque. With only 400 autographs available, this collectible must be limited to that number of games. The LE game art features classic WWE stars, of course including Hulk Hogan. Actual WWE wrestling action is projected on the LE's replica "Titantron" playfield level 5.7 inch LCD directly above the ring. The ball is always wild when it comes into contact with the LE's exclusive "Chaos" spinning DISC while a third "Wham! Arm" flipper allows players to knock the ball off a wire ramp.
"The WWE franchise features unique characters and fantastic action sequences that are captured in these pinball machines. WWE Wrestlemania pinball games will appeal to a very large and diverse group of both WWE and pinball fans," said Gary Stern, Chairman and CEO of Stern Pinball. "This game is unique with an innovative wrestling ring and other features that will captivate pinball players of all skill levels."
WWE Wrestlemania is the first pinball machine to feature Stern's recently announced SPIKETM electronics hardware system. The new technology reduces product complexity and simplifies
manufacturing, resulting in more reliable and easier-to-service games. SPIKETM is both modular and scalable, accommodating and supporting future designs. Players will quickly appreciate higher quality sound, enhanced illumination effects and a more engaging overall game experience.
At the CES 2015 Stern will also be showing its Star Trek, The Walking Dead, and Ford Mustang pinball machines.
Pricing and Availability:
WWE Wrestlemania Pro Model: $5,495 (MSRP)
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New free downloadable Pinball Magazine special:
Veteran pinball designer John Trudeau discusses his latest game: WrestleMania
Lots of new details about the game and upcoming LE version!
http://www.pinball-magazine.com/?p=2440
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I got it right, a John Trudeau design.
The style looked like the best things from Mustang.
He has excellent designs when it comes to his tables. Similar style to Borgys. Lots of flow and colour.
Martin from PinballNews must have been up all night doing the WWE article. Jonathan from Pinball Magazine has done well as well. I would have liked to see John Trudeau standing there with his arms above his head like a wrestler or even have a WWE star with him. Maybe Stern will do that. Well done to all.
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At first didn't like it, starting to warm up to it, hopefully Zak will site one soon for a test
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reckon Gary could have a long hair blonde wig and pose next to the LE and impersonate Hulk Hogan %.%
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New free downloadable Pinball Magazine special:
Veteran pinball designer John Trudeau discusses his latest game: WrestleMania
Lots of new details about the game and upcoming LE version!
http://www.pinball-magazine.com/?p=2440
How many people can we name on the cab/translite?
Names to faces now, not just shotgunning and throwing out current wrestler's names. #@#
I honestly don't know any of them. My era was Hogan, Bundy and Andre the Giant.
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I know John Cena in the middle.
I think Brock Lesnar is on the left but the pic wasn't clear enough. Don't know any of the rest. I never watch the women's wrestling cause "slutty" makes me want to put my fingers down my throat on any subject where women look like tarts.
I really like the amazing colours John Trudeau brings to his playfields . Borgys stuff is colourful, but Johns stuff is even more colourful. The only change is that on this title I would have liked to have seen the option of chrome edging on the headbox. Chrome looks better in my opinion on some titles.
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as per post on pinside
New free downloadable Pinball Magazine special:
Veteran pinball designer John Trudeau discusses his latest game: WrestleMania
Lots of new details about the game and upcoming LE version!
http://www.pinball-magazine.com/?p=2440
How many people can we name on the cab/translite?
Names to faces now, not just shotgunning and throwing out current wrestler's names. #@#
I honestly don't know any of them. My era was Hogan, Bundy and Andre the Giant.
Big Show is on the cabinet
It looks like Triple H on the far RHS and Kane on the far LHS.
Used to love the "drama" between the Undertaker and Kane. I watched an episode recently, and nothing has changed - there still too much "talk" and not enough action. At lest in the 90's and 00's you had guys like The Rock who was funny and very good at playing the crowd.
"can you smell what The Rock is cooking" ?
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video with some shots of the new game and a bunch of talking.
http://au.ign.com/videos/2015/01/08/wwe-and-pinball-the-marriage-we-never-knew-we-wanted-ces-2015
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video with some shots of the new game and a bunch of talking.
http://au.ign.com/videos/2015/01/08/wwe-and-pinball-the-marriage-we-never-knew-we-wanted-ces-2015
Love the video title. ^^^
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video with some shots of the new game and a bunch of talking.
http://au.ign.com/videos/2015/01/08/wwe-and-pinball-the-marriage-we-never-knew-we-wanted-ces-2015
Love the video title. ^^^
That is a HUGE plug for STERN as these guys ( IGN ) have a massive cult following in the gamer world and everything they do, young people ( and some oldies #@# )watch.
Particularly stoked to see younger crew speaking with such enthusiasm .
You mention online WiFi tournaments to these guys and you are already a winner.
good stuff ^^^
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New free downloadable Pinball Magazine special:
Veteran pinball designer John Trudeau discusses his latest game: WrestleMania
Lots of new details about the game and upcoming LE version!
http://www.pinball-magazine.com/?p=2440
Note the line about WrestleMania almost being released as a Pro only.
I'd always wondered why Stern wouldn't do some machines as a Pro only, where there isn't much difference in the Pro and LE/Premium. They could charge an extra $500 dollars for a single model Metallica or Mustang with the LE/Premium playfield - the additional features on the LE/Premium could have been easily/cheaply added into the Pro model. Cost would drop with the larger/single run on the LE/Premium playfield.
WrestleMania Pro may be another one of those machines that the better value game would be the Pro.
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The 3 tier Stern sales model system is simple and very effective.
Some people like the value for money Pro which plays fast and is always priced well.
The LE is always top dollar but you get exclusitivity and have something most people want but couldn't buy because they missed the very quick timeline or didn't have enough $.
The Premium is for someone who wants the Playfield features of the LE and a mix of the Pro and LE on some of the other features.
Funnily enough, in Australia if u buy a Premium, you probably have a rarer machine than those who purchased the Pro or LE.
This system is just like Fords car sales model when I grew up around factory six or V8 models.
Ford Falcon, Ford Fairmont Ghia then Ford Fairlane. OR
Holden Commodore, Holden Calais and Holden Stateman.
But divide the car sales numbers by 1000 and u have the real pinball sales type numbers.
Stern are on a winner with this model cause we see collectors all over Australia with each of the pinny models.
Great things for 2015.
Even JJP has its base model, it's LE model and its Premium 75th Anniversary Premium model.
As Gary Stern said "nothing makes a statement like a Pinball Machine".
The look on people's faces when they walk into a games room says it all.
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Side pic of WWE pinny
If u blow the photo up, there's a dude wearing a black vest which looks like a angy Johnny Borg. Lol
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Also, rounded shaped drain guide plastics instead of the usual square or pointed shapes as usual.
Also the back of the slingshot plastic also serves as a two sided slingshot which bounces the ball backwards and forwards when the ball is rolling thru cause the rounded lane guides have rubbers and also a slingshot style switch.
Only simple but haven't seen this used on both sides this way for ages. Picture below shows how it works.
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Also, rounded shaped drain guide plastics instead of the usual square or pointed shapes as usual.
Also the back of the slingshot plastic also serves as a two sided slingshot which bounces the ball backwards and forwards when the ball is rolling thru cause the rounded lane guides have rubbers and also a slingshot style switch.
Only simple but haven't seen this used on both sides this way for ages. Picture below shows how it works.
I agree, they have incorporated some simple & different ideas that keep the boxing ring theme flowing through the game and is very effective.
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Looks like a fresh update from Stern .Not bad in my opinion .
Not keen on the theme at all ,but the flipper control sling shots in the ring looks cool .
Has there every been another pinball that you control the sling shots ? could be signs of things to come .
Similar !
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Such a shame to see all this technical innovation (for better or worse) squandered on a hideous looking piece of shit.
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Such a shame to see all this technical innovation (for better or worse) squandered on a hideous looking piece of shit.
Something tells me you might not like it ?
How do u think they should have done it ?
Wrestling fans probably think it's the bees knees. ?
The colours look awesome.
Is it the subject matter of wrestling you don't like or the design they put together ?
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video - shows the top playfield flipper action if you can call it that, neat idea
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this is what a pinsider learnt from the CES show from the Stern guys and based on what he asked and was told.
"Details about the new SPIKE system to be used in WWE Wrestlemania: The transformer has been eliminated (lighter games). The MPU is much smaller and there are no coil drivers in the back box. It appears to be running an Atmel processor and reportedly runs embedded Linux. The coil drivers are now on under-playfield boards close to the actual coils are are reported to have much better ESD protection, over-current protection, etc. In short, they should be much more reliable.
The main connection from the MPU to the main satellite boards are via CAT5 cable (NOT running ethernet). It looks like there are 3 or 4 primary satellite boards which daisy-chained via Cat5 (at least that is the number on the TWD Pro they had on display to show the new hardware system, everything is modular and they can add as many satellite boards as they need for a particular game). From these satellite boards which appear to contain their own logic, other "dumb" boards such as lamp boards are connected via what look like in-line IDC connectors.
Single lamp boards are terminated on the lamp board via direct-soldered connections. The lamps are now all direct drive (no matrix) which should eliminate flickering/ghosting problems.
The switch matrix has also been eliminated and the switches will also be direct read from one of the satellite boards. Aside from eliminating row/column cross-talk errors in the case of a bad protection diode, this will also allow an arbitrary number of switches as required by a particular game (not limited by a fixed matrix of 8x8, 8x10, etc.)
Audio goodies:
3-channel audio system! (Stereo Highs, plus single channel lows)
Headphone Out! (On the MPU, but can be routed wherever you need it)
Line Out (Also on the MPU)"
and
"A couple other interesting items:
Flippers now use double winding coils!
This is a pretty major change and means the flippers no longer have to use PWM to keep them in "up" position since there will be a high power coil for flipping and low power for hold (like Williams/Bally). Should eliminate the Stern flipper buzz and also give a nicer feel. Still using leaf switches (not optos) for flipper switches.
48V (only) power bus from back box to playfield
If another voltage is needed under the playfield, it will be locally regulated on the satellite boards. However, the MPU has diagnostic LEDs for +5V, +9V, +24V, and +48V so I'm not sure if any of this is written in stone. Bussing a single voltage reduces wiring/cost and might make troubleshooting easier. Not this means that there are no longer high power and low power coils. All coils will be 48V.
Power switch is now on right-hand underside of back box.
Obviously, this eliminates a long wire run for Stern. Downside would be a little harder to get to if your games are packed tight. I didn't ask specifically if it would be like this on production games, but it looked like a designed in feature to me.
LE will have a different board revision
Obviously, this is consistent with recent SAM L.E. and Premium boards. I asked specifically about video output from the demo SPIKE board shown at CES and if there were multiple video outputs. My understanding is that that board did not have video outputs (just the standard 2x7 DMD connector), but the L.E. would have a different revision with additional capabilities (e.g., to support the playfield display)."
the power switch could be a issue for people with a home line up if they have to get between machines to turn off.
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Thanks for video Jady :) it's growing on me and I can't wait to play one.
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Such a shame to see all this technical innovation (for better or worse) squandered on a hideous looking piece of shit.
%.%
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Changed the power switch to under the RHS of headbox to save wire? WTF?
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Changed the power switch to under the RHS of headbox to save wire? WTF?
LOL
maybe theres a remote control (as a extra mod)
or a cordless mouse maybe even a wireless keyboard
did Stern sack everyone that had a IQ higher than 70
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I'd like a new stern but being a short arse I could never turn it on so I guess that's it for new sterns for me.
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From AMD email:
2 MODELS AVAILABLE
WWE WRESTLEMANIA PRO PINBALL - $7850.00
WWE WRESTLEMANIA LE PINBALL - $11,250.00
Interesting to note is that prices on all other models currently in stock have also risen to match the WWE pricing....... #@#
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Interesting to note is that prices on all other models currently in stock have also risen to match the WWE pricing....... #@#
That's fine if the prices of local stock bought with a stronger Aussie dollar increases in price because that it what the value of the machines are now with a weaker Aussie dollar. BUT that means that if the Aussie dollar increases, local stock bought with a weaker Aussie dollar should decrease in price, incurring a loss to the importer.
If they aren't prepared to drop prices with a stronger dollar on old stock, then they should not increase prices with a weaker dollar on old stock.
I think we all know what would happen if the dollar strengthens...
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From AMD email:
2 MODELS AVAILABLE
WWE WRESTLEMANIA PRO PINBALL - $7850.00
WWE WRESTLEMANIA LE PINBALL - $11,250.00
Interesting to note is that prices on all other models currently in stock have also risen to match the WWE pricing....... #@#
Geez :(
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A week ago the pricing for everything Pro was $7100.
You can't just increase prices by $750 for no reason.
Even I think that is too expensive for any Pro, new system or not.
Can someone post the original email pricing list from AMD here for all the models.
I just can't see anyone swallowing such a price increase.
If the prices have jumped by $750 overnight, Stern will lose a lot of sales in Australia. AMD should not be increasing costs so much so quickly.
Going to send AMD and Stern USA a few emails me thinks.
Not happy Jan. If it's true...
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From AMD email:
2 MODELS AVAILABLE
WWE WRESTLEMANIA PRO PINBALL - $7850.00
WWE WRESTLEMANIA LE PINBALL - $11,250.00
Interesting to note is that prices on all other models currently in stock have also risen to match the WWE pricing....... #@#
Geez :(
Official now.
http://www.amdcoinop.com/#!pinball-machines/c17eu
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From AMD email:
2 MODELS AVAILABLE
WWE WRESTLEMANIA PRO PINBALL - $7850.00
WWE WRESTLEMANIA LE PINBALL - $11,250.00
Interesting to note is that prices on all other models currently in stock have also risen to match the WWE pricing....... #@#
Geez :(
Official now.
http://www.amdcoinop.com/#!pinball-machines/c17eu
That's crazy :( I just got in but no more :(
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A price increase from Stern and the Australian dollar is the unfortunate reason.
I understand that prices may be negotiable on everything Pro except WWE.
Negotiating on shaker motors being incl is also up your sleeve.
I am going to work out what I can get a Pro from a USA dealer, add 20 percent to cover our exchange rate then add $500 for import duties n taxes n shipping to Australia to see what the difference might be compared to our Aust pricing on a Pro.
It seems the Aust dollar was too good for too long.
Not sure if this will stop me from buying BNIB Sterns or not but it's making think very heavily about it ! And I am the biggest Stern fan in Australia so it's not going to be well received by 99 percent of Stern buyers.....
Will do some math and do another post shortly...
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So some figures from the USA.
Anyone can buy the following pins from almost every Stern Dealer for these amounts
Star Trek Pro $5495
Mustang Pro $5495
The Walking Dead Pro $5495
Metallica Pro $5495
Most say free shipping to various parts of the USA.
Shipping is usually apx $300 in the USA so I am going to leave the shipping price on so you don't have to buy the machine on a special new MasterCard or some other offer that is required to get potential free shipping within USA.
So the cost of the game is USA $5495 plus $300 ship which totals $5795.
Take $5795 and add 20 percent to the price to get it into perspective with our shitty Aussie dollar.
$5795 now becomes $6954 Australian.
Add Apx $550 Aussie to import/ship/tax/insure plus add mandatory Govt duties and shipping to AMD and you now have $7504. Say $7500.
These are approx figures thrown together using the figures I can find on Ebay USA and my experience of bringing in machines from USA. I could be spot on, I could be off by 10 percent.
So the cost AMD wants is $7850. My guesstimate cost is $7500.
The other factor to consider is that all the USA Ebay pricing ranges from $5495 to $5795 to start with. I took the lowest figures to begin with. If I started with the later figure our Australian price would have reached apx $7850.
So we are not getting ripped, we seem to be paying pro-rata what we should be given the overseas prices.
It's the Australian dollar. What can u do ?
Negotiate hard when dealing with the good people at AMD.
Get a shaker motor and a set of rails thrown in. That's about $400 worth of retail product. Doesn't hurt to ask.
The pricing is hard to swallow at first for the Pro models but my math tells me it's where all the variables say it should be.
Anyone think my quik calculation sounds about right ??
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Such a shame to see all this technical innovation (for better or worse) squandered on a hideous looking piece of shit.
This. I can't think of many themes I'd be less interested in.
Even if I tried to overlook that... the gameplay footage I've seen indicates that a large portion of time is spent just randomly poking the ball around in the wrestling ring up the top which looks awfully boring. I find on some games that the pop bumpers ruin the flow if they trap the ball for too long. The wrestling ring seems to take it a step further by making this frustration of mine the actual objective.
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It's like the under Playfield on Congo, the longer you stay in there the more points and annimations and Audio bytes u get. Something different. Some games with long PPP bumper times give your wrists and brain a quik rest.
Wait til u play it in person is what I say about any new pin cause you then feel the whole package...,
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Negotiation? What negotiation room is there with a monopolistic distribution system?
No one but noob walk ins pay those retail prices quoted in the US.
Stern distros in the US are more of an oligopoly who actually have to compete for your dollar to get a sale. Stern try to regulate that by sending out memoranda to their distributors immediately prior to product shipment which contain what is called M.A.P (minimum advertised pricing). This is not binding (as like Australia, that is illegal) but it is highly "persuasive" when you belong to a limited supply chain like pinball machines. That is why so many "under the table" deals occur with US Stern distributors to customers. I imported my BIBLE in this manner and it still came in way under what the Aus distro was charging NIB at the time. The downside is that there is no warranty whatsoever and the local Aus distributor doesn't want to know you.
When all is said and done, it really all comes down to how much value you place on a limited warranty and local after sales service (if any). Because that is all the added value you are getting by buying locally.
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Negotiation? What negotiation room is there with a monopolistic distribution system?
No one but noob walk ins pay those retail prices quoted in the US.
Stern distros in the US are more of an oligopoly who actually have to compete for your dollar to get a sale. Stern try to regulate that by sending out memoranda to their distributors immediately prior to product shipment which contain what is called M.A.P (minimum advertised pricing). This is not binding (as like Australia, that is illegal) but it is highly "persuasive" when you belong to a limited supply chain like pinball machines. That is why so many "under the table" deals occur with US Stern distributors to customers. I imported my BIBLE in this manner and it still came in way under what the Aus distro was charging NIB at the time. The downside is that there is no warranty whatsoever and the local Aus distributor doesn't want to know you.
When all is said and done, it really all comes down to how much value you place on a limited warranty and local after sales service (if any). Because that is all the added value you are getting by buying locally.
"like"
and very correct
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How u going to get around the USA version which won't work here with the 50 HZ issue or whatever was built in to stop rogue imports.
The old work around is now defunct on the new SPIKE system being implemented.......
I have always been able to negotiate with AMD in Sydney on pricing. Everytime I bought a BNIB I got to negotiate a fair price I enjoyed. Negotiation is available when buying. Just ask.
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Wonder if they supply the extra 10c of wire needed to put the on/off switch back in the body on the LE?
Surely an extra $3500 can cover 3m of wire. What a joke @.@
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Wonder if they supply the extra 10c of wire needed to put the on/off switch back in the body on the LE?
Surely an extra $3500 can cover 3m of wire. What a joke @.@
Gotta agree the on/off switch should be where It's always been :)
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I believe they will be selling a remote to control on/off etc. This is all part of the value add campaign by them!
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How u going to get around the USA version which won't work here with the 50 HZ issue or whatever was built in to stop rogue imports.
The old work around is now defunct on the new SPIKE system being implemented.......
I have always been able to negotiate with AMD in Sydney on pricing. Everytime I bought a BNIB I got to negotiate a fair price I enjoyed. Negotiation is available when buying. Just ask.
If someone can purchase direct from USA and pay an individual shipping price that still remains UNDER what your friendly negotiable local Aus dealer is charging.Then STERN make it impossible for anyone to be able to do this in the future, you have to come to the conclusion that Stern are only interested in a monopoly system here. Your local friendly negotiable distributor is taking the piss and the Aus purchaser is being taken for a ride.
The internet has opened the world to Australia.. it is no longer the "isolated island" that saw higher prices here than anywhere else. You can buy and move money to and from any country at the touch of a button, unless of course someone closes this avenue for no reason other than a deliberate act to MAKE you pay more. Less choice = higher prices.
But hey!!! Those guys at AMD are real friendly and who isn't willing to pay more for a product if you can have a nice cosy phone conversation? The guys at your monopolistic outlet really are the best chums money can buy!
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From AMD email:
2 MODELS AVAILABLE
WWE WRESTLEMANIA PRO PINBALL - $7850.00
WWE WRESTLEMANIA LE PINBALL - $11,250.00
Interesting to note is that prices on all other models currently in stock have also risen to match the WWE pricing....... #@#
Way too rich for me, even if I liked the theme (I don't).
Can't see myself buying too many Sterns in the future with those prices. ^.^
Oh well, I have too many pins anyway. !@#
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I'm still trying to ascertain as to whether AMD actually do negotiate on prices of NIB pins. Unless the definitions of negotiation and fair mean paying the full recommended retail 2012 NIB prices at time of purchase?
I have always been able to negotiate with AMD in Sydney on pricing. Everytime I bought a BNIB I got to negotiate a fair price I enjoyed. Negotiation is available when buying. Just ask.
My ACDC Pro was $5950 minimum pricing paid in full upfront but you have to add delivery from Sydney to QLD which was $300 plus $250 shaker motor which is a must have which equals a minimum of $6500 delivered.
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These prices are getting insane.
I would have thought a business that relies heavily on US imports would have hedged the $ a while back.
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the gameplay footage I've seen indicates that a large portion of time is spent just randomly poking the ball around in the wrestling ring up the top which looks awfully boring. I find on some games that the pop bumpers ruin the flow if they trap the ball for too long. The wrestling ring seems to take it a step further by making this frustration of mine the actual objective.
I thought the same thing, what it the point of the lower PF? The ball spends so much time on the upper PF then pauses when hit into the top hole then some more time bouncing around, when it finally drops out onto the bottom there are two ramps leading back up there (((
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I'm still trying to ascertain as to whether AMD actually do negotiate on prices of NIB pins. Unless the definitions of negotiation and fair mean paying the full recommended retail 2012 NIB prices at time of purchase?
I have always been able to negotiate with AMD in Sydney on pricing. Everytime I bought a BNIB I got to negotiate a fair price I enjoyed. Negotiation is available when buying. Just ask.
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My ACDC Pro was $5950 minimum pricing paid in full upfront but you have to add delivery from Sydney to QLD which was $300 plus $250 shaker motor which is a must have which equals a minimum of $6500 delivered.
I have always negotiated and received the shaker motor for no costing. I bought other BNIB pins and always received money off delivery and shakers. Yes they do negotiate.
Have you ever bought a new pinball from AMD and purchased a machine from Bruce or Michael.
I listed the then exact costings that were being charged, I didn't say I paid that in full !
As for gameplay, wait til the machine at least arrives here and we all get to play it. Hard to write anything off til u have at least played a game ...
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le pics, has the lcd screen above the ring.
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hi res of the playfield
http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/Stern-WWE-LE-Playfield1.jpg
and a zoom up of the third flipper and the coat hanger wham arm bat
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The more we see the more like hey? It's looking pretty dam good :)
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why does Jesus have to be crucified above the bumpers? well thats what it looks like to me @.@
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why does Jesus have to be crucified above the bumpers? well thats what it looks like to me @.@
Lol it does to :)
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The LE definately looks the goods. Looks like the GOLD edition LE !
Certainly will stick out in any collection.
Can't wait to see one in person as well as the Pro WWE.
Well done !
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The LE definately looks the goods. Looks like the GOLD edition LE !
Certainly will stick out in any collection.
Can't wait to see one in person as well as the Pro WWE.
Well done !
might be challenge given the prices
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Got an email today from Bruce at AMD in Sydney.
He has three only x The Walking Dead Pros still available at the $7100 pricing.
If u want to save $750 get in quick with a deposit.
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Just watched some you tube videos of Wrestlemania. They seemed to have got the pop bumpers screwed up.
The ball hardly ever drops in to them coming out of the ring, and it looks like the only way to way to shoot the ball into the bumpers is via a lucky ricochet. Even the third flipper and slugger on the LE isn't lined up to shoot into the bumpers.
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If u don't bother bouncing the ball around in the wrestling ring, doesn't the ball just roll directly into the pops.
I am looking forward to playing this one when AMD or TimeZone gets one to play.
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Due February at Timezone Gold Coast ^^^ will update when they arrive
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If u don't bother bouncing the ball around in the wrestling ring, doesn't the ball just roll directly into the pops.
I am looking forward to playing this one when AMD or TimeZone gets one to play.
Not quite. If the ball drains from the centre of the ring, it falls into posts such that it should randomly go down the left or right rails to the flippers, or down into the pops. But the current videos have a post arrangement that mostly puts the ball into either the left or right rail.
It may be a simple matter of the post placements needing minor adjustment. I hope they allow that to be user adjustable - its the kind of think that is affected greatly by the incline of the pinball machine.
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listened to the latest Coast to Coast podcast today and the LE has a number more features but what was surprising is Trudeau suggested that it was meant to be a pro only and that the Stern RRP in the US is actually lower than TWD.
then you have to wonder what AMD are doing by bumping the price with the next shipment considerably as well as making it the same as a TWD or more......
Hey Cavey, ever find get a responce back from Stern that you can share about potential loss of sales due to the price increases down under.
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Apparently Stern has raised the Pro pricing up apx $300 over the last 12 months but AMD haven't passed on the price rise which was good of Bruce.
Then recently, with the Ausdie Dollar being so low, the pricing difference which AMD have again been wearing, had to be added to all new stock after marchs container arrivals. Hence the $750 price rise we shld have got a year ago but AMD held on til they couldn't hang on anymore.
Stern has said they are relooking at the pricing and nothing is set in stone forever. One thing they did say is that they have only had a very small number of people writing to them re the price increases. More people need to drop a email to Bruce and Stern because it will help.
Also the RRP for the WWE Pro is the same as all other models accross all the USA Stern Dealers that I can see. Not sure what JT was getting at. All Pros for any model are always the same on USA Ebay.
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WWE official flyers are up
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flyers
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Flyers
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Flyers
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Both flyers look great. Pro would be my choice.
Well done Stern.
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GS talks about about wrestle mania and others. Looks like some fun to me, regardless of theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdAJJ6ZhiPU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdAJJ6ZhiPU)
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Have to give them credit for at least trying something a bit different.
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Apparently Stern has raised the Pro pricing up apx $300 over the last 12 months but AMD haven't passed on the price rise which was good of Bruce.
Then recently, with the Ausdie Dollar being so low, the pricing difference which AMD have again been wearing, had to be added to all new stock after marchs container arrivals. Hence the $750 price rise we shld have got a year ago but AMD held on til they couldn't hang on anymore.
Stern has said they are relooking at the pricing and nothing is set in stone forever. One thing they did say is that they have only had a very small number of people writing to them re the price increases. More people need to drop a email to Bruce and Stern because it will help.
Also the RRP for the WWE Pro is the same as all other models accross all the USA Stern Dealers that I can see. Not sure what JT was getting at. All Pros for any model are always the same on USA Ebay.
Need to stop worrying so much about the Aussie Dollar. The increases people don't like are the Stern increases. No one has control over the Aussie Dollar. It was good for all buying from 2010-2013. The Aus$ was $1.10 for a whopping 10 days. Regardless, every single operator I've spoken to in Melbourne have stopped buying LEs for the specific reason of Stern's pricing. COMBINED with the Aus$ (but not the main reason), this will affect Stern. No letters or emails will change that. If AMD raised the price by $750, they would have sold less games. By all means - all Home buyers SHOULD complain. Stern are supposed to be promoting the home industry, not killing it.
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Finally got to play a Wrestlemania this week and I really enjoyed it.
The ring is actually quite fun and challenging, I found myself wanting to get back up there to try to 'pin' the wrestler I was against and pinning someone is not easy which is great.
The inner loop is also deadly, very fast return from it.
While there are not many shots to go for I did not notice and I had a great time with the game.
I will say it is not a theme I am interested in so I would not buy one but I will definitely say play one if you get a chance.
Just thought I would share my experience.
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Finally got to play a Wrestlemania this week and I really enjoyed it.
The ring is actually quite fun and challenging, I found myself wanting to get back up there to try to 'pin' the wrestler I was against and pinning someone is not easy which is great.
The inner loop is also deadly, very fast return from it.
While there are not many shots to go for I did not notice and I had a great time with the game.
I will say it is not a theme I am interested in so I would not buy one but I will definitely say play one if you get a chance.
Just thought I would share my experience.
+1 I had the same experience.
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here is an official Stern video for Wrestlemania
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Good video from Stern
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New code for all WWE Stern pinnies just released.
Machine has been very popular onsite in USA I am told and is selling well.
Good to see people enjoying such a diverse range of titles these days.
Would love one of these in a Pro next to my Royal Rumble Widebody Data East.
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Is there one in Melbourne?
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Played the Pro model tonight at KJWHF in Perth. This is a bloody fun game. Fast inner loop shot, great skill shot (which actually requires skill ) Interesting ring that is not as easy as some make it out to be, nice artwork ( if you like wrestling ), good call outs, nice light show and music( rock and roll " flight of the valkyries " is awesome and what appears to be a very, very deep rule set.
Simple, GO PLAY IT! congrats to the guys who bought it. Don't let the theme put you off if you don't like wrestling, UNIQUE!
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Is there one in Melbourne?
Both the LE and pro model are at Zax Amusements in Melbourne for those looking..
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Zax is a distributor, who will let you try the games. As far as I know, none have yet been spotted in the wild in Melbourne.
Check for location updates on:
http://melbournepinballfinder.wordpress.com (http://melbournepinballfinder.wordpress.com)
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WWE/LE is very nice. Lucky enough to play one tonight at KJWHF ( a lad named Mato bought one ) and it has a VERY noticeable difference from the Pro version. Very much for the better also.
The extra wrestlers to choose from, the JUMBO VISION screen, the spinning ring disk, the slam flipper/s, side lane kick-outs, beautiful gold metal ware and the signatures from Hulk Hogan, Gary Stern and John Trudeau top it off.
This is a F U N game and although I am not into the theme it has some cool things going for it.
Unique design and should not be scoffed at if you see one in the wild, play it, you will be surprised.
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New code up
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160430/75a0b5c92edc49f1f6973962ec240604.jpg)
New WWE code is up.
V1.33 - April 28, 2016
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- Added unique abilities to all wrestlers.
* Select screen now display each wrestlers abilities.
- Added new sounds and displays.
* Wrestling Matches
* Tag Team
* Tag Team Champion
* Showboating
* Bonus and Bonus X advance
* Royal Rumble
- Added health bar for Tag Team and Tag Team Championship.
- Added extra ball award after US Championship.
- Added extra ball when bonus count is maxed (Once per game).
- Lowered thresholds for loop awards.
- Modified rules for Tag Team Championship.
- Improved Auto Replay thresholds.
- Fixed incorrect Tag Team displays.
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Should keep all three buyers happy. ^^^