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Title: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: Gruntis on February 04, 2015, 01:17:43 PM
Adding a few more games to the list

Anyone out there willing to part with a DE Star Wars or a Shrek.
First machine I ever owned was a DE Star Wars and I'm still kicking myself for selling it  ^&^ It's been too long now and I'd like to add it to the collection if ones available.
Also trying to get my wife a little more interested in pinball so I'm also looking for a nice Shrek. She and the kids love the movies so it'll be a real winner in our home.

Not expecting miracles as I know there are not many examples left around or that people are willing to sell but putting it out there anyway, might get lucky

Cheers
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: pinnies4me on February 04, 2015, 02:21:00 PM


Topis stickied, good luck!

Don't forget the new ROM available for SW - changes and improves the game dramatically from all accounts. http://www.pinballcode.com/
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: Crashramp on February 04, 2015, 05:15:42 PM


Don't forget the new ROM available for SW - changes and improves the game dramatically from all accounts. http://www.pinballcode.com/

+1 the new ROM is a must. Good luck with the search.  ^^^
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: Gruntis on February 04, 2015, 05:25:59 PM
I changed the rom in the old one I had. Gotta say it makes a great pin greater.
Really should have got rid of it. But in saying that I had some nice pins since thanks to selling it.

Just hoping to be able to get one back, that or a Shrek. Now we play the waiting game  %.%
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: Dimsims on March 07, 2015, 08:47:46 PM
He is a DE STAR WARS for 7k (I this how much there worth now ?):

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/melbourne-cbd/other-books-music-games/star-wars-data-east-pinball-machine-original-in-great-condition/1072697830
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: Caveoftreasures on March 08, 2015, 01:27:31 PM
Not worth that money. Half that starting price.
I used to buy these for 2200 to 2500 tops.
If it's your Grail then four grand ish.
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: Dimsims on March 08, 2015, 01:48:42 PM
I suppose everything has gone up though, I think I paid 2600 for mine about 3 to 4 years ago.
It was nothing special when I got it.
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: andypinboy on May 02, 2015, 04:38:17 PM
Cavey tends to under-price non-Stern machines IMO (no offence at all Cavey - just going on what I've seen). SW is a very popular DE machine - & with the theme it's heading only one way in price. I think you are will be at $5k for a good to very good example now. Having said that, $7k is seriously wishful thinking.
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: Gruntis on May 02, 2015, 05:22:42 PM
Argh Andy, got my hopes up bumping this thread  %.%

I still think Cavey is right, $4k is what a realy nice example is worth. When you're talking $5k you're in restored territory. Average example I think is still in the $3k range.

Still looking for those who are considering letting theirs loose and will soon have my JP up for a trade against one or one of a selection of DMDs. Just finishing off a few details on it.
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: andypinboy on May 02, 2015, 07:31:17 PM
Haha - yeah sorry about that. I'd love a SW myself (not a Trek fan & for me it has to be the original) but I get the feeling they are tightly held now. Hope you are right about the price - good luck with it! If you find 2 let me know  :lol
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: Caveoftreasures on May 03, 2015, 12:28:27 AM
I personally travelled the entire country buying machines from container importers.
I saw the cost prices paid by the importers who were and became mostly good friends.

Games like Star Wars Data East were C grade titles and honestly were being offered for retail $1400 to $1800 in QLd espescially. Lower for nice but needing attention, higher at 1800 for plug n play n needing absolutely nothing. If I didnt see at least 50 of these and almost every title you can imagine come out of containers, I would be underestimating the numbers easily. These games were on offer by overseas container exporters for $400 to $600 max.
I remember sitting with many importers and suggesting what titles to pick and why wtc.

A Data East Star Wats is not worth more than $4 K even if it was owned by the President of the USA.

I was buying brand new Sterns like ACDC Pro or X Men Pro or Star Trek Pro etc etc and so on for close to 6 grand and mid to just over mid 6 grand in BNIB - brand spanking new.

So why in hell would a game that is early 1990,s be worth the same as a mint HUO 2nd hand Stern Pro ?
It wouldn't be unless the person was on drugs or dellusional.

I believe I know the realistic prices of almost every DMD game and game afterwards cause I study the market thoroughly. It's of benefit to me cause I never want to pay a silly price that might embarrass me or cause me a loss on a pin at a later date.

The person selling can justify crazy prices to the emotionally invested buyer, but when you are not emotionally invested in the purchase and are standing on the sidelines, it's easy to see the mass inflation of pinball pricing.
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: andypinboy on May 03, 2015, 10:06:06 AM
Cavey, the reason a DE Star Wars will be worth more than a 2nd hand Stern in future is the same reason a "chairs & flares" Dino will be worth more than a currently new Bentley. One appreciates because it is a classic & they aren't making any more of them.
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: Caveoftreasures on May 03, 2015, 02:15:20 PM
Totally disagree. A DE Star Wars will never be worth more than a good 2nd hand DMD Stern title.
But if people want to waste their $ on hyped up greedy cash grab prices then that's up to them.
I never did and won't be in the future. I respect my money too much to pay massive amounts over the odds.

Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: Dimsims on May 03, 2015, 03:34:58 PM
I personally travelled the entire country buying machines from container importers.
I saw the cost prices paid by the importers who were and became mostly good friends.

Games like Star Wars Data East were C grade titles and honestly were being offered for retail $1400 to $1800 in QLd espescially. Lower for nice but needing attention, higher at 1800 for plug n play n needing absolutely nothing. If I didnt see at least 50 of these and almost every title you can imagine come out of containers, I would be underestimating the numbers easily. These games were on offer by overseas container exporters for $400 to $600 max.
I remember sitting with many importers and suggesting what titles to pick and why wtc.

A Data East Star Wats is not worth more than $4 K even if it was owned by the President of the USA.

I was buying brand new Sterns like ACDC Pro or X Men Pro or Star Trek Pro etc etc and so on for close to 6 grand and mid to just over mid 6 grand in BNIB - brand spanking new. 

May I ask how long ago was this ?

If it was when the AUD was around 1 to 1, then with what the AUD is now, then that explains some of the value ?
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: andypinboy on May 03, 2015, 04:14:30 PM
It's each to their own. I am not a huge fan of DE's - but my guess (& that's all it is) is that 2 titles will always be valuable & IMO likely to appreciate - GnR & Star Wars. Why? Because of the themes. Everyone from 3 to 103 knows about Star Wars & gunners will always have the die-hard fans. These machines are already showing an upward trend re prices & smart collectors are hanging onto them. Alternatively I can't see how a new Stern can do anything but depreciate, at least initially. As soon as you open the box or play that 1st game thats $1k gone. It's just the way it is - nothing wrong with it - most buyers know this but what they get is the nib exprience & hopefully perfect finish & flawless play.
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: Strangeways on May 03, 2015, 05:07:11 PM
Both DE Stars Wars in my inventory are reserved for Presidents  %$%
Title: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: GORGAR 1 on May 03, 2015, 06:19:27 PM
Gunners is a great game :) maybe theme has alot to do with it but it has an awesome rule set :) and amazing art work, I love playing it when I visit my buddy in Albury :)

Sorry for hijack but Andy started it lol
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: Caveoftreasures on May 03, 2015, 07:02:14 PM
I personally travelled the entire country buying machines from container importers.
I saw the cost prices paid by the importers who were and became mostly good friends.

Games like Star Wars Data East were C grade titles and honestly were being offered for retail $1400 to $1800 in QLd espescially. Lower for nice but needing attention, higher at 1800 for plug n play n needing absolutely nothing. If I didnt see at least 50 of these and almost every title you can imagine come out of containers, I would be underestimating the numbers easily. These games were on offer by overseas container exporters for $400 to $600 max.
I remember sitting with many importers and suggesting what titles to pick and why wtc.

A Data East Star Wats is not worth more than $4 K even if it was owned by the President of the USA.

I was buying brand new Sterns like ACDC Pro or X Men Pro or Star Trek Pro etc etc and so on for close to 6 grand and mid to just over mid 6 grand in BNIB - brand spanking new. 

May I ask how long ago was this ?

If it was when the AUD was around 1 to 1, then with what the AUD is now, then that explains some of the value ?


Without checking my home computer cause I am out in the car, travelled widely and saw containers bought in and unloaded dozens of times over For a 3 year plus period around 2008 to about late 2011 if not a bit later.
Importers in Qld were always buying more and paying less. I think people in other states were paying more but the QLders were buying containers like there was a mad gold rush going on.
If it wasn't for the glut n cheap pricing I wouldn't have packed my Santa stocking with well over 50 pins in only a 3 year period.
I don't think the dollar really had anything to do with it. The prices pins could be had for were chicken feed from the Euro container sellers. And the myth that only junk came from Euro imports was exactly that, a myth.
Most machines I saw pulled out of many containers were in excellent n working condition.

Have seen a few containers come in this last 24 months and the pricing was
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: Caveoftreasures on May 03, 2015, 07:03:11 PM
Both DE Stars Wars in my inventory are reserved for Presidents  %$%

Good to see Bill Clinton and George Bush can afford those prices. Well done.
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: Caveoftreasures on May 03, 2015, 07:35:37 PM
Both DE Stars Wars in my inventory are reserved for Presidents  %$%

Good to see Bill Clinton and George Bush can afford those prices. Well done.


And the final machines the customers will be getting from you will be fully restored plus all the clear oats and the machines will be as good as they could ever be. That will be worth the $ any day of the week.

Is Monica going to give you a hand with the strip down since Bill Clinton is a customer.
I hear Monica likes to help with the vacuuming/suction jobs.

Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: andypinboy on May 03, 2015, 10:23:05 PM
Gunners is a great game :) maybe theme has alot to do with it but it has an awesome rule set :) and amazing art work, I love playing it when I visit my buddy in Albury :)

Sorry for hijack but Andy started it lol

He - yeah sorry, my fault. Gunners is indeed a great DE - you can't go wrong with the colour scheme - looks great anywhere. Bonus is it's a great player. Back to the OP (apologies) - Gruntis is WTB DE Star Wars & Shrek!
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: Dimsims on July 05, 2015, 07:15:40 PM
Here's a DE SW on evilbay if your still after one:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-Star-Wars-Pinball-Machine-/191620419907?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item2c9d779143

Could be anything though as the seller hasn't put up the actual pictures of the machine  ^&^
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: andypinboy on July 06, 2015, 02:34:06 PM
Here's a DE SW on evilbay if your still after one:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-Star-Wars-Pinball-Machine-/191620419907?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item2c9d779143

Could be anything though as the seller hasn't put up the actual pictures of the machine  ^&^

Yeah - it's the ol' "bait & switch" but the seller is very transparent that it's mere bait  :lol   Mind u isn't there a $7k Star Wars on evilbay? (or might have been gumtree).
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: pinnies4me on July 06, 2015, 03:09:58 PM
Here's a DE SW on evilbay if your still after one:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-Star-Wars-Pinball-Machine-/191620419907?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item2c9d779143

Could be anything though as the seller hasn't put up the actual pictures of the machine  ^&^

Yeah - it's the ol' "bait & switch" but the seller is very transparent that it's mere bait  :lol   Mind u isn't there a $7k Star Wars on evilbay? (or might have been gumtree).

"Made when the original Star Wars movies came out."

Hmmm, I seem to recall the movies came out in the 1970's and 80's, and this game in 1992......
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: pinball god on July 06, 2015, 09:27:51 PM
Here's a DE SW on evilbay if your still after one:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Original-Star-Wars-Pinball-Machine-/191620419907?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_15&hash=item2c9d779143

Could be anything though as the seller hasn't put up the actual pictures of the machine  ^&^

Yeah - it's the ol' "bait & switch" but the seller is very transparent that it's mere bait  :lol   Mind u isn't there a $7k Star Wars on evilbay? (or might have been gumtree).

"Made when the original Star Wars movies came out."

Hmmm, I seem to recall the movies came out in the 1970's and 80's, and this game in 1992......
maybe he meant 'came out on DVD'
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: andypinboy on July 07, 2015, 02:21:22 PM
It's not nice that this stuff happens really. And some unsuspecting 1st time buyer may be sucked in. I paid a bit too much for my 1st pin - but I've never regretted it because it was from an AP member, had been fully stripped etc by him with quite a few expensive mods - & it was still $1,000 less than a dealer was asking for a really dodgy example, unmodded, no leds, apparently fully "workshopped" which seemed to mean he'd wiped it over & touched the cab up with black spray paint. I guess it happens with everything though - need to do your homework or know people.
Title: Re: WTB DE Star Wars and Shrek
Post by: pinball god on July 07, 2015, 08:39:36 PM
I reckon I've paid too much for all my games. Hobbies generally cost people too much. I convert my hobby money by what it cost me to buy, the fun of the chase, resto etc and then the enjoyment of owning and playing. I have no intentions of profiting and don't expect to. But I'm not saying its right for people to be ripped off and I know of savvy buyers who have had great wins buy wise and sales wise