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Title: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on March 29, 2015, 09:47:59 PM
Hi Guys
I have a Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens that really should go to heaven, but I am too addicted to Bingos.
I have a 20 hole Hawaii that I have more or less sorted so I have now dragged out the Cypress.
When I played these back in the 70's many were converted into "Baseball" machines due to them being illegal.
The playfields and cabinets were repainted, a solenoid operated bat replaced the shooter and the back glass replaced.

This one has the painted playfield, no back glass and the cabinet was repainted but has since rotted away the end where the head sits. The wooden rails were hacked off and replaced with SS metal ones. This machine can not go back to original due to no good cabinet parts.

I am going to rebuild it as a baseball themed game. I remember them better as that anyway. I am staying with the green painted playfield with white diamond. I will patch up the cabinet and paint that to suit the playfield. Not sure about the back glass, but will print something when  I think of something.

The wiring has been heavily modified which I will rip out and wire back to original.

This will be a big project but all the bingos seem to have disappeared and haven't found a easier one to fix.

I need a bit of help
As I said the wooden rails were hacked off. Can anyone send a photo of the profile and dimensions of the wooden rails so I can try to duplicate them on to the splintered wood I now have.

If anyone has a Cypress, can you tell me what's supposed to be in the lower cabinet so I can remove the contactor, proximity switch, stepper unit etc that I see as modifications.

The baseball bat setup is missing, anyone know any details of how they were? Probably end up going back to the standard shooter.

I need a long wet winter to keep me shed bound!

Cheers Guys
Andy
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: ddstoys on March 29, 2015, 10:10:20 PM
Good luck with the project I have a cypress gardens Backglass ornfor something unique a custom Backglass or glasses for these games called fun machine if your interested in either
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Strangeways on March 30, 2015, 09:38:04 AM
Sounds like you have one of my Dad's old Bingos. Where are you located ?

Unfortunately, I am not very good as these machines. I have restored a Miami Beach with Dad, but I did the cosmetic stuff. Dad and my Uncle used to fix these in their sleep. I do have a Cypress Gardens, pulled out of hibernation (hidden since 1991) - here is the thread - http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=12180.0 (http://aussiepinball.com/index.php?topic=12180.0)

In terms of Backglasses - I might have a spare, or Daniel has one as mentioned.

There is a guy on Youtube that has some excellent guides - well worth the $



You have a unique project on your hands. document it here and you might have some assistance as you progress.
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: oldskool1969 on March 30, 2015, 11:27:02 AM
I would like to play a BINGO machine one day. I too would look forward to seeing a thread on restoration.
Does this Dude also sell hair colour swell?  #@#
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Retropin on March 30, 2015, 07:19:08 PM
Hair colour is the new Noir...
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on March 30, 2015, 09:28:49 PM
Hi Guys
Thanks for the replies.
I sort of knew where I was going with the Cypress, now I am not sure.
I didn't expect a backglass to be available, but now only a day later, there are 2.

Ddstoys, I am interested in talking to about your backglass, is that the one in Strangeways link? Also, what are the fun machines glasses you mention?

Strangeways, I should also talk to you about your backglass, is it the plexiglass shown in the link. The link you posted is fantastic, I believe this was once one of your fathers machines. I live in Melbourne and the machine came from Brunswick. My playfield is all green except around the holes and numbers with the same white diamond. The same ss covers were on the 2 front corners (now removed).
If someome can tell me how to post a pic I will put it on here with some progress shot from time to time.
Are the playfields converted to bats? I haven't seen the red covers before and you still have the shooter.
Yes I have Richards video set but need to get his hair color (hair too).

Andy
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Retropin on March 30, 2015, 09:31:36 PM
Hi Guys
Thanks for the replies.
I sort of knew where I was going with the Cypress, now I am not sure.
I didn't expect a backglass to be available, but now only a day later, there are 2.

Ddstoys, I am interested in talking to about your backglass, is that the one in Strangeways link? Also, what are the fun machines glasses you mention?

Strangeways, I should also talk to you about your backglass, is it the plexiglass shown in the link. The link you posted is fantastic, I believe this was once one of your fathers machines. I live in Melbourne and the machine came from Brunswick. My playfield is all green except around the holes and numbers with the same white diamond. The same ss covers were on the 2 front corners (now removed).
If someome can tell me how to post a pic I will put it on here with some progress shot from time to time.
Are the playfields converted to bats? I haven't seen the red covers before and you still have the shooter.
Yes I have Richards video set but need to get his hair color (hair too).

Andy


Make that 3... pretty sure I have a Cypress Gardens BG also
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Strangeways on March 31, 2015, 09:56:40 AM
Hi Guys
Thanks for the replies.
I sort of knew where I was going with the Cypress, now I am not sure.
I didn't expect a backglass to be available, but now only a day later, there are 2.

Ddstoys, I am interested in talking to about your backglass, is that the one in Strangeways link? Also, what are the fun machines glasses you mention?

Strangeways, I should also talk to you about your backglass, is it the plexiglass shown in the link. The link you posted is fantastic, I believe this was once one of your fathers machines. I live in Melbourne and the machine came from Brunswick. My playfield is all green except around the holes and numbers with the same white diamond. The same ss covers were on the 2 front corners (now removed).
If someome can tell me how to post a pic I will put it on here with some progress shot from time to time.
Are the playfields converted to bats? I haven't seen the red covers before and you still have the shooter.
Yes I have Richards video set but need to get his hair color (hair too).

Andy


Dad installed the SS panels so the artwork was concealed. When these machines were being viewed as "gambling devices" there was an easy way to solve the issue - SS paned and place the games behind a curtain in a back room. These "back rooms" were in Carlton, Brunswick, Thornbury, Northcote Reservoir and Moonee Ponds. The original siderails were removed as they could be removed easily. Some had bats and some didn't. They were converted to remove the ability for the player to adjust the tension of the ball speed. Again, to foil the authorities - it became a game of "chance". The legs were sometimes removed and replaced with steel legs as they copped a pounding on site.
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: ddstoys on March 31, 2015, 11:37:30 AM
Converted to a bat game sounds interesting
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on March 31, 2015, 06:31:29 PM
Hi Guys
A pic of cabinet and playfield, no original artwork.

and a pic from Danny's bingo site showing a Melbourne Baseball bat bingo (not mine).
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: ddstoys on March 31, 2015, 09:21:22 PM
That's cool.  And answers a question I have one of them bats
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: ddstoys on April 01, 2015, 08:42:42 AM
Here are some pics of the Backglasses
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/31/b9f281b3e91898dd3454537d15f2c518.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/31/430c189326d3b227a5758ceec96ad0b5.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/31/c473675fffea7d022ec446137a8cf290.jpg)(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/31/8862501ce96cdf9fd6fbbaafb7b88b51.jpg)
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on April 01, 2015, 08:36:04 PM
Wow the Cypress Gardens backglass looks so good. The Fun Machine doesn't jog any memories and I don't think anything else will.
I am starting to consider going back to original, probably depends on how the cabinet comes up.
That said, the playfield is a piece of history but may look strange with the Cypress backglass.
The other option is a different playfield or I think I saw playfield stickers.
Does anyone have any thoughts on this.
The bat Ddstoys mentioned - although I remember playing these with the bat I can't recall which button operated the bat.
I can try to trace the wiring on this one but when it came apart many years ago, the wiring didn't go through Jones plug and was cut to allow disassembly. Most wiring was fig8 and hard to trace. I don't recall when the bat could be operated, though the shooter is available anytime after the spin cycle so maybe it doesn't matter.

A photo of some of the modified wiring plus a large 240/110 V transformer.
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 01, 2015, 09:01:31 PM
I recognise these from 70 Lygon Street East Brunswick!

I saw them in storage there about two years ago.  The location was then a vacant downstairs shop downstairs, and a boarding house upstairs for young Italians on working visas (I presume they were legal).

The then owner of the shop, and presumably those pins, owns DOC's on Lygon St Carlton, Faraday St Carlton and Mornington.  Nino:  From that info your dad could probably give you the history of where those pins were operated, and perhaps who obtained them from him?

When the vacant shop became a shop again, I held hope the machines weren't trashed.  I'm pleased to see someone got them for the purpose of attempting to restore them.
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Strangeways on April 02, 2015, 10:03:18 AM
I recognise these from 70 Lygon Street East Brunswick!

I saw them in storage there about two years ago.  The location was then a vacant downstairs shop downstairs, and a boarding house upstairs for young Italians on working visas (I presume they were legal).

The then owner of the shop, and presumably those pins, owns DOC's on Lygon St Carlton, Faraday St Carlton and Mornington.  Nino:  From that info your dad could probably give you the history of where those pins were operated, and perhaps who obtained them from him?

When the vacant shop became a shop again, I held hope the machines weren't trashed.  I'm pleased to see someone got them for the purpose of attempting to restore them.

They would no doubt once belonged to my Father's business. The painted playfield denotes it was his - he converted many Bingos to "Baseball" themes which the diamond an the green painted playfields (grass) is a giveaway. As to where they were operated - No idea - would be one of the many Italian coffee Shops in Lygon st / Sydney Rd.

These are popping up everywhere at the moment. I love hearing that they have been rescued. I know we threw out 90 in one day. I know at least 16 were hidden. I have 5, and relatives have another 5-6. But prior to the legalization in 1991, Dad sold quite a few to collectors - these were also in homes well before the "home collection" as we know it, started.
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: GORGAR 1 on April 02, 2015, 11:46:43 AM
I recognise these from 70 Lygon Street East Brunswick!

I saw them in storage there about two years ago.  The location was then a vacant downstairs shop downstairs, and a boarding house upstairs for young Italians on working visas (I presume they were legal).

The then owner of the shop, and presumably those pins, owns DOC's on Lygon St Carlton, Faraday St Carlton and Mornington.  Nino:  From that info your dad could probably give you the history of where those pins were operated, and perhaps who obtained them from him?

When the vacant shop became a shop again, I held hope the machines weren't trashed.  I'm pleased to see someone got them for the purpose of attempting to restore them.

That's a cool story thanks for sharing :) I never get sick of operator story from years ago
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: ddstoys on April 02, 2015, 06:43:25 PM
So are these bingos legal now niño?
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on April 03, 2015, 09:39:35 AM
I recognise these from 70 Lygon Street East Brunswick!

I saw them in storage there about two years ago.  The location was then a vacant downstairs shop downstairs, and a boarding house upstairs for young Italians on working visas (I presume they were legal).

The then owner of the shop, and presumably those pins, owns DOC's on Lygon St Carlton, Faraday St Carlton and Mornington.  Nino:  From that info your dad could probably give you the history of where those pins were operated, and perhaps who obtained them from him?

When the vacant shop became a shop again, I held hope the machines weren't trashed.  I'm pleased to see someone got them for the purpose of attempting to restore them.


I got the Blue cabinet one and a Hawaii (The other in pic is off the net to show the bat setup) from a house in Brunswick about a year ago, the owner was moving to Mornington. Sorta fits in with your post. Was there a Hawaii there? Here's a pic of it when I put it together.

I need some info on the wooden rails. Nino said they could easily be removed but mine were chiselled off. See photo. Can anyone post a close up of the rail profile or measurements or even better both?
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Strangeways on April 03, 2015, 10:36:24 AM
So are these bingos legal now niño?

To own = Yes.

To operate = No. But there's no one left over from the Gaming and Lottery "squad" that used to seize the machines. They appear on eBay from time to time. 10 years ago they were pulled, but now they are not.

I recognise these from 70 Lygon Street East Brunswick!

I saw them in storage there about two years ago.  The location was then a vacant downstairs shop downstairs, and a boarding house upstairs for young Italians on working visas (I presume they were legal).

The then owner of the shop, and presumably those pins, owns DOC's on Lygon St Carlton, Faraday St Carlton and Mornington.  Nino:  From that info your dad could probably give you the history of where those pins were operated, and perhaps who obtained them from him?

When the vacant shop became a shop again, I held hope the machines weren't trashed.  I'm pleased to see someone got them for the purpose of attempting to restore them.


I got the Blue cabinet one and a Hawaii (The other in pic is off the net to show the bat setup) from a house in Brunswick about a year ago, the owner was moving to Mornington. Sorta fits in with your post. Was there a Hawaii there? Here's a pic of it when I put it together.

I need some info on the wooden rails. Nino said they could easily be removed but mine were chiselled off. See photo. Can anyone post a close up of the rail profile or measurements or even better both?


Cypress Gardens would have the woodrail configuration. Hawaii is a 70's Bingo and you would need to research the machine to find out if it had both configurations.

http://bingo.cdyn.com/ (http://bingo.cdyn.com/)

The chances of finding original woodrail rails - zero - you would need to make a set up.
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on April 03, 2015, 11:14:03 AM
The Hawaii has metal ones and is complete.

I am going to make the Cypress Gardens ones, that's why I need the details, size and photos.
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 03, 2015, 07:53:45 PM
I got the Blue cabinet one and a Hawaii (The other in pic is off the net to show the bat setup) from a house in Brunswick about a year ago, the owner was moving to Mornington. Sorta fits in with your post. Was there a Hawaii there? Here's a pic of it when I put it together.

I need some info on the wooden rails. Nino said they could easily be removed but mine were chiselled off. See photo. Can anyone post a close up of the rail profile or measurements or even better both?
History
I recall the following:
- Two old machines
- One backless that was shattered, but on in one piece (don't recall which game, or even if the other machine had a glass).
- One was painted Blue, as your photo.
- One had metal rails.
- One was a baseball theme.

...So it was definitely these two.  I'd imagine they were either:
- Operated at 70 Lygon St brunswick a long time ago, But that is a very small shop front. Or
- It may have came from a nearby coffeeshop that a boarder new the coffee shop.  Many of the boarders work in the near by coffee shops and restaurants.

Cafe L'Amore (76 Lygon St Brunswick) was shut down a few years ago, and got merged into neighbouring Gelobar (74 Lygon St Brunswick).  The old classic Cafe L'Amore was gutted and 'renovated'.  Gone is its rear mens private room that was larger then the main public 'front' of the coffee shop.  (I know nothing!).  Up to L'Amore closing down, you could still find old Italian men playing cards at the back, but most wouldn't know there was a room behind that out of the way door.

If the person you bought if from had an Italian accent, I wonder if he resurrected it from the closing of Cafe L'Amore.  If he was Italian looking, slim build, mid 40s, but with an Aussie accent then he was likely the owner of 70 Lygon St boarding house and he could have got the machines from his dad.  Moving to Mornington would mean he was the owner or an employe of Doc's.  The owner had many of his 'of the boat' employees living at 70 Lygon St.  Though the person showing me the machine lived at 70 Lygon, but didn't know whose machines they were.  He had the gall to try and sell them to me not knowing who's they were.  Can trust these greasball Italians!  (It's politically acceptable for me to say that).

Parts
Regarding the wood rail, PBResource sells replica woodrail for old Gotliebs.  You should be able to route off part of the underside rail if it is to narrow for your cabinet.  Have a look at the following page:

http://www.pbresource.com/siderails.html (http://www.pbresource.com/siderails.html)
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on April 03, 2015, 09:13:40 PM
Very interesting

I think the guys name going by ebay was Carlo Lipari whom I purchased them from, he said he had bought them, I don't know how long earlier.

One backless that was shattered, but on in one piece
I don't know what shattered, but on in one piece means, the only glass with them had the 2 bottom corners broken off but intact with sticky tape.

Thanks for the woodrail link, I get the shape idea but need larger wood to cover the top edges of my cabinet.
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 04, 2015, 01:18:02 AM
Rail:
I would have thought the wood would be more than wide enough for your edge?  The curved part of the Wood is up facing, now sideways.  It more flat then high.  Only a small edge goes over the glass, with the bulk overhanging the side of the machine.  (It is unlike a metal rail that is high higher than wide.)  The main photo is the correct orientation for the right side of the cabinet - It should sit on the top right edge of the cabinet as photographed.

History:
What I meant by 'shattered, but one piece' was that it had countless cracks on it, and was likely only held together by the artwork 'grey' backing paint.  Given your backglass was essentially in one piece, it means the one I remember as shattered was thrown out.  It was not repairable, but if retained it would have been a reproducible by http://www.greatpinball.com/products.html (http://www.greatpinball.com/products.html) in Canada.


Carlo Lipari:  I'll ask someone on Sunday if he is the owner, but I think I would have remembered his name if I heard it.  Likely an employee of Doc's.  With a name likely taken from the island of 'Lipari' between mainland Italy and Sicily, would I be guessing right that his was not tall, dark skinned, bowed legs and deep black & think hair?  Its a very small island, with everyone there related to each other!
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Retropin on April 04, 2015, 08:43:52 AM
Ill measure the wooden rails today... You'll know for sure then
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on April 05, 2015, 11:02:47 AM
Hi Brunswick Brawler

Where these fit on to the cabinet, mine has been hacked away.
At the footrail end, where the cabinet sides are correct, there is a 7 x 10 mm wooden edge sticking up.
Looking at the new rails, the RHS one would normally sit on that as described with the routered section going over the glass and the balance overhanging the side.

The problem is that only a small section of the side has that 7 x 10 edge, and other in sections the wood is up to 15mm below the flat area that the glass sits on. The new wood would be sitting in free air along the majority of the side.

I can either make new rails that can sit over and down the sides of the machine giving me a fixing point and covering the missing wood or try to repair the sides and fit new side rails. I am not sure of my routing ability to do that and any hidden nails will present problems. May have a little play and see how it goes.

Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Retropin on April 05, 2015, 05:29:03 PM
The wooden rails from PBR need to be cut to length and so will be oversized.

Rails on a STD GTB single player game are:
110mm X 35mm.
Outside edge of rails hang over the cabinet by 15mm leaving 20mm from cabinet edge to inside rail edge
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on April 06, 2015, 08:01:30 AM
Thanks Retropin

I've been looking at a lot of pics on the net, but none really show a good profile of the wooden rails.
The Bally Bingo ones appear as almost round, about 35mm dia with 90 degrees cut out (end profile like a big mouthed pacman). Sort of like the GTB ones if they continued around another 90 degrees on the outside edge.

This would allow them to cover the glass and go down the sides a bit. That would also explain the damaged sides, as removing the GTB profile would be unlikely to damage so far down the side.

Can anyone confirm the profile?

Brunswick Brawler, the guy was 6' tall, didn't look at his legs, dark skinned and black hair.
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Retropin on April 06, 2015, 08:53:05 AM
They are glued on and a bugger to remove... if not done carefully, then there will be plenty of damage to the cabinet.
Ill take a pic of the profile today. They will be exactly what you are looking for as the rails for the Bingo's would have also been used for the pinball machines... keeps manufacturing costs down


Profile pic  below:


(http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr243/retropin/Rail%20profile_zpssjxi19dq.jpg)

Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on April 06, 2015, 10:22:40 AM
This pic shows although not very clearly the woodrails on an old bingo and they seem to be different, what do you think?
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Retropin on April 06, 2015, 10:49:48 AM
Yep... I stand corrected.
They look like a piece of wide dowel with a 90deg cut
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 06, 2015, 12:57:14 PM
Bingo Websites:
Here you will find links to Bingo games parts suppliers (including rails and backglasses)
www.bingo.cdyn.com (http://www.bingo.cdyn.com)
www.danny.cdyn.com (http://www.danny.cdyn.com)

Also if you listen to podcasts, there is a new one that specialises in Bingo games.  They are short daily podcast that have being going for about one month. I got the links above from Episode 2:
www.foramusementonly.libsyn.com (http://www.foramusementonly.libsyn.com)

Rail orientation:
The photo you have of the alternate machine is not what I would have expected.  I thought the rails were always 'flat' not 'tall'.  Have a look through the websites above - there is a good chance you will find your two machines.

History:
The person you bought from is not the owner from DOCs (the owners name is tony), but the machines were definitely stored at 70 Lygon St east Brunswick.  I'd like to believe in the nice story that they were obtain from the rear room of the former Cafe L'Amore two doors up.  (The name L'Amore now appears at the top of the front facade of the new building of Gelobar).
Oh well he was tall, but the dark skin is a southern trait. Near enough :).
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on April 06, 2015, 08:24:39 PM
Brunswick Brawler
I am pretty sure they are the ones you saw, too many things line up for it to be otherwise.
I just remembered there was a small wooden crate with some bits in it when I picked them up, was that there or my guy could have added that.

I am going to try some 35mm ish dowel and see how it looks, if no one here knows what they should look like then I figure no one else will notice.

Thanks for all the help so far. With the help, this is going better than expected.
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 06, 2015, 09:01:59 PM
Following through 'Danny.cdyn.com' pages here are photos of Cypress Gardens:

http://danny.cdyn.com/cgpa.htm (http://danny.cdyn.com/cgpa.htm)

The flyer on ipdb.org is also consistent with a simple rounded top rail:
http://ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=620&picno=5781 (http://ipdb.org/showpic.pl?id=620&picno=5781)

...Be sure to provide updates of your renovation on this post.
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: bingopinballs on April 30, 2015, 07:49:12 AM
Hello from the United States: It is always Great to see a nice pinball forum like this one and it is Great to see you guys discussing the Bingos. I think it is Very Cool to see you working together to save a few of them and piece together such wonderful history. The Bingos are somewhat rare to begin with and the Baseball games down your way are Very Rare. Keep up the good work guys and write (email me) if you'd like to talk and share more. It would be nice to hear from you. Cheers - Danny
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: millsy on April 30, 2015, 11:04:44 AM
Great to see more Bingo banter on the forum - Love my Bingo  *%*
Welcome to the forum Dan - Tons of info on your site.  @@*
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: goodolddays on April 30, 2015, 11:46:18 AM
Very interesting thread ..

I can't believe the condition of those glasses you have there Daniel
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: ddstoys on April 30, 2015, 02:28:30 PM
Very interesting thread ..

I can't believe the condition of those glasses you have there Daniel

Had
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 30, 2015, 08:29:32 PM
I found this website that does reproductions part for Bally bingo games, including backglasses.

http://www.coos.net/bingo_e/ (http://www.coos.net/bingo_e/)


It was mentioned in For Amusement Only EM and Bingo Podcast, Episode 48 (or was it Episode 49?).
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 30, 2015, 08:37:53 PM
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Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Strangeways on May 01, 2015, 09:22:50 AM
Ironically I'm getting a call a week to either repair or sell a Bingo. They are appearing all over the place !
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on May 03, 2015, 09:35:42 PM
Just out of curiosity, how many in this forum have a bingo, working or not?
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: ddstoys on May 03, 2015, 09:38:01 PM
I have two one not working and one unknown
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: millsy on May 03, 2015, 11:54:34 PM
one - 1958 Bally Carnival Queen
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Strangeways on May 08, 2015, 11:57:56 PM
Just out of curiosity, how many in this forum have a bingo, working or not?

Miami Beach - restored - but in need of a better playfield.
Cypress Gardens - In really nice shape. Will be restored
Showtime - In really nice shape. Will be restored
Beach time - In really nice shape. Will be restored

Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: oldskool1969 on May 09, 2015, 12:53:46 AM

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Miami Beach - restored - but in need of a better playfield.
Beach time - In really nice shape. Will be restored

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Okay okay, you had me at beach! love to see one, pics or sale?
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on May 09, 2015, 08:37:25 AM
Strangeways

Any chance of a straight on photo of the front and of a side of the Cypress Gardens to copy the artwork from?
All the pics on the net are from an angle which messes the scaling and shape a bit.

I should have put my bingo when I posted

Cypress Gardens, really bad shape, few bits missing, repainted playfield - but getting a lot of attention.
Hawaii- 20 hole bingo, very complicated compared to Cypress, mostly works, small cracks in backglass, 7/10 condition.

There's not many bingos around, even in this group. they used to be everywhere so I wonder where they all are. I think in an earlier post you said you dad to 90 to the tip one day, wonder if he did other trips.

Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Strangeways on May 09, 2015, 10:49:53 PM


Miami Beach - restored - but in need of a better playfield.
Beach time - In really nice shape. Will be restored

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Okay okay, you had me at beach! love to see one, pics or sale?
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No sale ! I actually have two, but one is for Daniel (DDSTOYS).


Strangeways

Any chance of a straight on photo of the front and of a side of the Cypress Gardens to copy the artwork from?
All the pics on the net are from an angle which messes the scaling and shape a bit.

I should have put my bingo when I posted

Cypress Gardens, really bad shape, few bits missing, repainted playfield - but getting a lot of attention.
Hawaii- 20 hole bingo, very complicated compared to Cypress, mostly works, small cracks in backglass, 7/10 condition.

There's not many bingos around, even in this group. they used to be everywhere so I wonder where they all are. I think in an earlier post you said you dad to 90 to the tip one day, wonder if he did other trips.



Are you local ? You are more than welcome to take photos etc ?
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on May 10, 2015, 12:23:31 PM
Hi  Strangeways
I'm about an hour away in Frankston area.
Sometimes I work out you're way, are they at APR?
If so can I call in during the day, just don't know when?

Andy
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Bayview on January 30, 2016, 01:06:08 PM
Better late than never. I've been away from the forum for a couple of years.  !@)
I have 5 Bingos.
1974 - Miss America '75
1972 - Ticker Tape
1958 - Carnival Queen (1st machine with a Magic Screen)
2 * BNIB Tahiti - 20 Hole (My brother & I bought these from America in 2011ish.
 
Love me Bingos.

Cheers
Bruce
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: pinball god on January 30, 2016, 08:57:28 PM
I did play bingos as a kid for money, but as a home thing are they fun to have? I figure it would be like having a pokier machine where winning means not much. I sometimes struggle with pinball as the lure to winning a free game is gone. At least you have the challenge of trying to beat the highscore or complete the rule se etc. Would appreciate bingo fan thoughts.
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Strangeways on January 30, 2016, 10:19:06 PM
Bingo machines are gambling devices. They have a 10c coin acceptor, but they had what we called a "notes" feature, where the guy behind the counter accepted your "notes" and clocked up the games on the counter. They are a SIMPLE game to master, and, they are a lot of fun. The idea is like "connect 4" - line your squares up with the corresponding numbers. "Buy" features such as the ability to move 4 numbers around, or "reveal" a new set of numbers.. Hard to explain, but easy to demonstrate. There's not much skill involved. It is the player against the features of the game - put more money into the machine and the ability to manipulate the playfield to increase your odds occurs. Tilt is set on the game, and you can literally lose money JUST by tilting the machine. No skill - but VERY addictive.

You are playing against the machine, for money - thats why they were called "money machines" by operators and players. When I was a child growing up, I saw walls full of them.

Nowadays - they are VERY desirable to own and play. Fixing them is a huge challenge. As far as artwork goes, these were the best art packages from any era.
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Bayview on January 31, 2016, 02:56:09 PM
Like Nino stated.....hard to explain. Some Bingos are quite challenging (thinking wise) to be able to move the screen (e.g. magic screens) to be able to actually locate all the different ways of winning credits. You could easily miss some of them.
Like pinballs with 'High Scores', I like to think the same with the Bingo, but using the 'Credits'.
Getting a large credit win is very satisfying indeed.
 
Hmmm, yes, fixing them can be very challenging.  *!@
 
Those 2 BNIB Tahitis my brother & I bought never worked from new, they had some major issues with them. Which I believe someone knew about from when they were manufactured, hence why they were stashed away in a warehouse ??. There was 6 of them apparently.
Anyway......I love them.
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: pinball god on January 31, 2016, 07:50:49 PM
Great to hear, I'll have to keep an open mind when next considering a purchase.
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: ralph67 on January 31, 2016, 08:07:50 PM
I was given both these, a Playfield and Backglass from Bally Variety ,I believe they were the last pieces a old operator in the South West had left , They came from his daughter , I turned them in to a wall hanging .
I do have the small score reset motor and a coil or 2 that was mounted under the playfield , If these leftover parts can help with getting your games going, free to good home , just pay the postage...
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: pinball god on February 01, 2016, 07:01:37 PM
I'll take them......no I don't have this game. Great gesture Ralph hope it helps someone out there and not someone flipping it on ebay etc
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Strangeways on February 01, 2016, 07:36:45 PM
I was given both these, a Playfield and Backglass from Bally Variety ,I believe they were the last pieces a old operator in the South West had left , They came from his daughter , I turned them in to a wall hanging .
I do have the small score reset motor and a coil or 2 that was mounted under the playfield , If these leftover parts can help with getting your games going, free to good home , just pay the postage...

Rare to see such a nice backglass and playfield. I'd be all over it if it was a Miami Beach. I need an original playfield to finish off mine.
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on February 14, 2016, 08:46:37 PM
A bit of an update on the original Cypress gardens post.

After getting a BG off Daniel (DDSTOYS) I decided to go along with restoring the machine to original but keep the green playfield as thats how they were as I grew up and have almost no chance of finding an original one. I have considered the sticker ones from the UK, but decided against them budget Vrs need.
After replacing the front and rotted back and part of the side panels on the cabinet, I tried to find some original artwork. The head could be scrapped back to get a rough outline of the original artwork but the cabinet gave no clues other than what was behind the coin return and replay buttons. I found some pics on the net but none were square on. I made some stencils based on the pic measurements x the scale. I ended up with a cabinet that looks good sitting in the room but would fail any close inspection. I figure if I couldn't find how one should exactly be, no one is going to know.
I read in recent posts, that without money a stake, these are not real exciting to play. While that is a fair assessment and sometime I get a bit carried away playing them, but mainly play them to find faults to fix as that is where my fun is.
This one is missing a few parts, 8 step stepper, ball shooter, some playfield parts, trip bank relay armatures, extra step components, balls and more, but what is there all works now (maybe not tomorrow).
I came across a Carnival Queen ( I see a couple of you have one) which was almost complete during this work which did side track me, but that up and running only needing cosmetic work, so I getting back to this one.
I think I have attached a before and after cabinet shot, but when my laptop flew accross the room and ruined my hard drive I lost my restoration shots.
Thanks to you guys who gave some early advice.
Cheers Andy
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on February 14, 2016, 08:52:33 PM
Nimo
Some time ago we discussed that this CG was likely one of your dads old ones.
I found this sticker in the machine which should confirm it.
Do you or him remember the sticker?

Andy
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Strangeways on February 14, 2016, 08:59:50 PM
Nimo
Some time ago we discussed that this CG was likely one of your dads old ones.
I found this sticker in the machine which should confirm it.
Do you or him remember the sticker?

Andy

I don't recognize the sticker, but Dad sold many bingos to other operators along the way. If it had the distinctive metal sheets on the front, then it definitely was - having said that - Gav (Retropin) found a Miss America that I'm sure was Dads - all the way in QLD !

Do you have more resto shots ?
Title: Re: Bally Bingo Cypress Gardens
Post by: Austwide on February 14, 2016, 09:13:43 PM
Only a shot of outlining the artwork.
I lost the rest when my hard drive got smashed.
I even revisited my previous posts to copy the pics I posted back.