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Title: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 04, 2015, 01:50:04 AM
Being one of the luckiest pinheads in the world, I have been fortunate to have been able to communicate with Johnny Borg from Stern USA.

You wouldn't get a nicer bloke in the world and such a down to earth fellow who is a pleasure to deal with.

Just 5 mins ago I got a message and to my surprise, he mentioned his next title is due at the end of April or Mid May for release. I was completely surprised because he just finished The Walking Dead but he said that he has been working flat out on the new game since finishing TWDead and his new game is ready.

A big surprise because I thought his next title was going to be 6 months away, not a handful of weeks away.

He described the new game as being very exciting.

I was badly wanted to ask what it was or a hint but I know the rules.
I have been lucky enough to have had contact with Borgy of the last few years and it's always a treat.

John Borg , in my opinion is the best pinball designer in the world. His games are genius. I have a lot of his titles and never get bored ever.

Can't wait for his new game to come out very very soon.

Just wish I had a clue as to what the theme or game is going to be.

Go Stern. Go John Borg. Legend.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: McKie1 on April 04, 2015, 09:25:22 AM
Thank you Brett for the update. Let's hope we can get these current pricing issues sorted.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: skywalker on April 04, 2015, 10:37:15 AM
Hey Brett this is a surprise, cant wait to see whats Announced, Hopefully its something unexpected  ()
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: GORGAR 1 on April 04, 2015, 10:46:49 AM
Thanks Brett it's all go at Stern HQ :)
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 05, 2015, 12:26:12 AM
He is my favourite currently active designer.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 05, 2015, 10:56:07 PM
I was blown away when Johnny Borg just dropped me a personal message.

He did say that although it just seems like he just finished The Walking Dead, he had started on his NEXT title instantly and the new title was already ready for production since he had been working on the new one flat out since Walking Dead was finished from a design point of view.

He said that the next title was most most Exciting and it seemed like it was going to be a HUGE surprise and people would be excited as well.

John Borg is the worlds best designer in my book and he can design a successful layout quicker and more efficiently than any other in my mind. He has it down to a fine art by now.
Each design is so different but retains the Borgy feel. His shot choice and flow is second to none.

I am dying to see what is coming out next.
Usually we all have a few ideas but on this next title, I don't have a clue at all.
That was the huge surprise on this title coming out so soon.
Hopefully the factory move won't put the schedule out but he did say May at latest so I am waiting and watching with interest.

Stern is my favourite company. Car and jetski companies used to be, but John Borg is a genius and nothing is as fun as a John Borg pinball machine.

A lot of his titles are awesome players and look the part.

What this next title is has me excited but stumped. It's all good. Makes it even more fun and interesting.
Like being surprised. That's a great quality of pinball. What cool surprise is around the corner.

Was just thinking tonight, would love to see Borgy do a Mad Max - Fury Road Pinball. (Movie due out May 15 in Australia starring Star Trek Insurrection Star Tom Hardy as Mad Max and three more movies to follow in this new series).

That would be a cool Borgy Pinny.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: studley67 on April 05, 2015, 11:07:14 PM
I look forward to the next title from stern,as many do.But i have to travel to the goldcoast to play it.such is my hard life, another visit is on the cards.maybee we catch up THIS time.I hope you had a good break brett.take care.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: skywalker on April 05, 2015, 11:25:36 PM
Mad Max would be something special that's for sure  ^^^
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: GORGAR 1 on April 06, 2015, 09:43:24 AM
Mad Max would be something special that's for sure  ^^^

I agree what a fantastic theme :) I agree Brett John is a fantastic designer I'm loving TWD
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: swinks on April 06, 2015, 12:41:55 PM
apparently Stern has the licenses for:

Superman
Kiss
Game of thrones
Fast and Furious

and the rumour is Borg is doing FnF
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 06, 2015, 01:09:41 PM
There is a new Star Wars movie due late this year "STAR WARS: EPISODE VII THE FORCE AWAKENS".  Could it be a Star Wars pin?

Stern's recently asked on Facebook what people thought their favourite spaceship was.  But these posting are often teases that don't point to the next release.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 06, 2015, 01:34:02 PM
Fast n Furious certainly sounds like it would fit in with Johns description of EXCITING.

Although I am not a fan of the Fast n Furious franchise at all (Vin Diesel is only good IMO in Sci Fi movies and the cars in Fast n Furious fly like the car in Back to the Future. Lol) but I am guessing the Fast n Furious pinball will be a big seller in the USA and will be popular on site for all ages IF it turns out to be reality.

I would have loved to have seen a Sci Fi title with a futuristic theme but Stern just did Star Trek so it might be a while before we get another theme like that ?

I wonder if Stern would ever do another car themed pinball like Mustang, but say a CHEVEROLET pinny.
Mustang did well apparently in the states and Europe but your not going to put a FORD Pinny in your house if you are a Chevy man.

So many great themes to do. It's just not Borgy pumping out great titles now, there's also Steve Ritchie and John Trudeau plus at least 3 other designers now on the payroll. Stern is going great guns of late. Happy days ahead.


Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 06, 2015, 01:39:02 PM
Mad Max would be something special that's for sure  ^^^

I agree what a fantastic theme :) I agree Brett John is a fantastic designer I'm loving TWD

Glad u are having a rage with your The Walking Dead Pete.
Great fun title. Love everything about this game.
Very fast playfield. Dot Matrix annimations and audio are just excellent.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 06, 2015, 01:49:21 PM
There is a new Star Wars movie due late this year "STAR WARS: EPISODE VII THE FORCE AWAKENS".  Could it be a Star Wars pin?

Stern's recently asked on Facebook what people thought their favourite spaceship was.  But these posting are often teases that don't point to the next release.

That would be interesting.
The spaceship reference was a very interesting tease for sure.
I am glad George Lucas sold the franchise. I watched a documentary about him and he was one tight miserable Scrooge. All the famous Star Wars cast disliked him for many reasons but being a tight arse was a common complaint.
His licence fees would have been excessive to say the least.
He sold the Star Wars licence for 2 Billion dollars. WTF ! What company thought they were going to get their money back this century ? ?

I wish Stern had of done a Stargate Atlantis pinny.
Has Star Wars been done to death for us mid forty year olds ?
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: swinks on April 06, 2015, 04:04:06 PM
thought I read somewhere that JJP may have got the Star Wars license ???? could be wrong...
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: GORGAR 1 on April 06, 2015, 05:18:45 PM
Fast and furious would be a nice title :) by all reports GoT then KISS :) hopefully KISS with DMD size LCD..
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: pinnies4me on April 07, 2015, 10:46:30 AM

Topic cleaned up, off topic comments transferred to their own thread.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: MrMaloo on April 07, 2015, 07:09:22 PM
God I hope it's NOT Mad Max ....

if it's going to be based on the new Fury Road series . Mad Max is like Star Wars - there's only one original and worthy series .
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 07, 2015, 08:15:37 PM
People are saying the new Mad Max is going to be far better than the originals. ? Big call but the last movies are now outdated with old film and techologies. The 2015 one with a good story might be awesome....

Nothing is as good as the Ford Black 2 door Slantback Coupe. That car was awesome and the reason I bought a few Ford XC Hardtops when I got older.

If Borgy did the title I would buy it.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: andypinboy on April 07, 2015, 08:41:58 PM
Wow - you really love your Borgy. I'd get one if it featured the really crazy Mel Gibson - you know, some really drunk & abusive callouts. Now that's the Mad Max Stern needs to make  ^^^
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 07, 2015, 09:46:11 PM
Yes Borgy is a genius and a family man. I am lucky to have a lot of his titles.
He is also one of the, if not the nicest bloke in pinball today.
It's good to have someone to look up to and I think it's nice to have a lot of respect for people who are very talented and passionate about their careers. Pin designers bring a lot of fun to a lot of families worldwide.

Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: pinsanity on April 07, 2015, 10:15:52 PM
Wow - you really love your Borgy. I'd get one if it featured the really crazy Mel Gibson - you know, some really drunk & abusive callouts. Now that's the Mad Max Stern needs to make  ^^^

What callouts would you prefer, andy? The mildly crazy Mel where he just blames all his problems on the Jews, or the full blown psycho Mel where he makes bizarre online abusive rants after his marriage breaks down?

Given his ideological persuasions, would Mel be in conflict in having his likeness on a Stern pinball is the big question?  *.*
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 07, 2015, 10:19:20 PM
What would people think about ACDC 'Rock or Bust', as a theme?  Effectively a part 2 to a game what was a huge success for Stern.

(In 1980s speak: "Borg rules")
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: andypinboy on April 07, 2015, 10:29:42 PM
Yeah love it - Rock or Bust!! Now u r really onto something  ^^^ What did you think of the album (it's a given the title track rocked big)?? Go Borg - it's Rock or Bust. You know what, I reckon CoT should give Borg a buzz on the batphone & recommend AC/DC Rock or Bust. If that comes to fruition I'll pony up the cash for one - yes, I'd actually buy it (the one & only Stern I'd ever buy mind you). How about we petition CoT to see if he can swing it?

Pinsanity - full psycho Mel where he screams on the phone to his mistress to come over... rant rant... arrest.... rant
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: andypinboy on April 08, 2015, 01:13:24 AM
Big day on the forum for me, & taking a backseat again now - hitting the hay  ((( However, really really keen on the idea of CoT lobbying Borgy for an ac/dc ROB machine. Kind of a farewell with Malcolm out & the drummer liable to get arrested at any time. Also, CoT I'd like to thank you, with full sincerity, for acting with grace & decorum on the forum today - it's a pleasure when you are being nice & easy to get along with. Well done  ^^^
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Strangeways on April 08, 2015, 09:36:48 AM
What would people think about ACDC 'Rock or Bust', as a theme?  Effectively a part 2 to a game what was a huge success for Stern.

(In 1980s speak: "Borg rules")

AC/DC License ran out in December. There will be no further AC/DC re runs or VE unless the deal is renegotiated.
Title: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: GORGAR 1 on April 08, 2015, 10:14:30 AM
What would people think about ACDC 'Rock or Bust', as a theme?  Effectively a part 2 to a game what was a huge success for Stern.

(In 1980s speak: "Borg rules")

AC/DC License ran out in December. There will be no further AC/DC re runs or VE unless the deal is renegotiated.

That's spot on Nino-maybe they may negotiate later it's just such a good seller for Stern.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: andypinboy on April 08, 2015, 11:24:49 AM
What would people think about ACDC 'Rock or Bust', as a theme?  Effectively a part 2 to a game what was a huge success for Stern.

(In 1980s speak: "Borg rules")

AC/DC License ran out in December. There will be no further AC/DC re runs or VE unless the deal is renegotiated.

That's spot on Nino-maybe they may negotiate later it's just such a good seller for Stern.


If JJP was really smart....
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 08, 2015, 07:53:27 PM
Now now... Back to the thread:


The licence for Stern to build more Stevie Ritchie 2012 design ACDC machines has expired.  If Stern wanted to do a vault edition of that, it would require a new contract with ACDC.  There is nothing stopping Stern doing that except that I expect ACDC would request new artwork to reflect where the band is today.
 
I was refereeing to a completely new playfield design, under a completely new licence.
 
Why is this a good idea for Stern:


Why is this good for ACDC:


I never had interest in ACDC, until the I played the Stern pinball.  From that I thought I’d buy and listen to their latest release Rock or Bust.  I loved it.  It’s the first album of theirs that I had ever heard and I’m now a fan.  There would be more like me – why would ACDC say no.  Why would any pinball company not pursue a new licence.
 
Admittedly, the pinball company may not like the idea of a rock pinball machine that is specific to a single album.  But in this case you could really do another ACDC ‘greatest hits’ theme, as was done for the 2012 machine.  A RoB is an opportunity for the first time ever that a complete album was put onto a pinball machine.
 
I did pass on some of these thoughts to Stern a few months ago.  I didn’t get a response, and nor did I expect a response.  But with Crafty has a ‘portal’ to Stern, and if enough interest is shown here (or pinside), then perhaps we should push for it.  If there is a good vibe for a RoB, I expect Stern (or any pinball manufacture) would like to know.
 
…and what is an extra:  Everyone named Rob would find it interesting! [ie RockOrBust = ROB].
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 08, 2015, 08:07:19 PM
Now now... Back to the thread:


The licence for Stern to build more Stevie Ritchie 2012 design ACDC machines has expired.  If Stern wanted to do a vault edition of that, it would require a new contract with ACDC.  There is nothing stopping Stern doing that except that I expect ACDC would request new artwork to reflect where the band is today.
 
I was refereeing to a completely new playfield design, under a completely new licence.
 
Why is this a good idea for Stern:

    • The ACDC theme is likely the largest selling pinball machine in the ‘hipster erra’.  If a new ACDC theme produces 20% of sales of the 2012 licence, it would likely still be a solid production run.
    • I would guess at least 20% of pinheads who bought 2012 ACDC would by a new ACDC.
    • They already have a recent relationship with the ACDC licensee (presumably a good one).

    Why is this good for ACDC:

    • Any pinball is good for the licence, provide the artwork reflects what they want it to.  A pinball machine is a billboard for the licenses.  No licensee would say no to advertising that they get paid for, unless they feel it will harm their brand.
    • ACDC have years between albums, and have a new line up.  It would be in their interest to have a new ACDC machine themed on their current album Rock or Bust.

    I never had interest in ACDC, until the I played the Stern pinball.  From that I thought I’d buy and listen to their latest release Rock or Bust.  I loved it.  It’s the first alum of their I had ever heard and I’m now a fan.  There would be more like me – why would ACDC say no.  Why wouldn’t any pinball company not pursue a new licence.
     
    Admittedly, the pinball company may not like the idea of a rock pinball machine that is specific to a single album.  But in this case you could really do another ACDC ‘greatest hits’ theme, as was done for the 2012 machine.  A RoB is an opportunity for the first time ever that a complete album was put onto a pinball machine.
     
    I did pass on some of these thoughts to Stern a few months ago.  I didn’t get a response, and nor did I expect a response.  But with Crafty has a ‘portal’ to Stern, and if enough interest is shown here (or pinside), then perhaps we should push for it.  If there is a good vibe for a RoB, I expect Stern (or any pinball manufacture) would like to know.
     
    …and what is an extra:  Everyone named Rob would find it interesting!
[ie RockOrBust = ROB].[/list]

Great post.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: andypinboy on April 08, 2015, 08:07:42 PM
Agree BB - if I was Stern I'd get the rights re-signed ASAP. I'm a long-term ac/dc fan - RoB isn't their best album by a long stretch but it is interesting - a different feel. The title song is a cracker. "Mistress" is good too. The last track is a very new sound for the band. I'm not really a Stern fan - however I WOULD be tempted by a RoB machine. I don't give a rats if it's jjp or stern - & I'd probly buy it 2nd hand when it had already depreciated though. And if they wanted some humour they could include a drug crop & some hitmen/ bodyguards around the drummer  :lol

Ps. i don't advise any callouts by the drummer - he's impossible to understand. Mind you Brian is pretty difficult to understand as well. Angus might be able to grunt out a "u got a ciggie".
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Cursed on April 08, 2015, 08:18:42 PM
Looking forward to seeing what the new title will be, Game of Thrones could be interesting as I think it would be serious competition to The Hobbit.

Also like the potential of a Fast N Furious pin, I would want that to be with a colour DMD though as there is a lot of good footage they could use.

My favourite pin is a Borg design (Tron) and I like a lot of his other titles as well, although in my Stern line up I have a Borg, a Gomez and my next one will be a Ritchie.

I don't mind if they do more AC/DC's as my next and last pin spot I have is lined up for an AC/DC Luci.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: andypinboy on April 08, 2015, 08:22:07 PM
Looking forward to seeing what the new title will be, Game of Thrones could be interesting as I think it would be serious competition to The Hobbit.

Also like the potential of a Fast N Furious pin, I would want that to be with a colour DMD though as there is a lot of good footage they could use.

My favourite pin is a Borg design (Tron) and I like a lot of his other titles as well, although in my Stern line up I have a Borg, a Gomez and my next one will be a Ritchie.

I don't mind if they do more AC/DC's as my next and last pin spot I have is lined up for an AC/DC Luci.



Noooooooooooo - not fast n furious - there's enough geese in turbo jap imports as it is. low brow & it would be a HUGE mistake (not their first of course, Iron Man, cough cough...)
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: pinnies4me on April 08, 2015, 08:40:08 PM


OK, I am typing this while on the phone with Strangeways - these are joint comments.

Pinsanity - bringing up a members personal life is a disgrace. You possibly won't read this as you will be on holidays for a little while to consider your actions.

Caveoftreasures - retaliating to comments and attempting to moderate threads is not appropriate, nor are you responses which are also insulting. However, given the comments that sparked them, a warning only this time. In future, report posts without retaliating.

Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: andypinboy on April 08, 2015, 08:52:55 PM
oh man - we'd just got onto discussing the good stuff - one of the world's best rock bands & their album theming a new pin...

Pinnies4me yr new avatar scares me.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: pinnies4me on April 08, 2015, 09:07:31 PM
oh man - we'd just got onto discussing the good stuff - one of the world's best rock bands & their album theming a new pin...

Pinnies4me yr new avatar scares me.

Sorry andypinboy (not about the avatar, that's your problem  *)* ), we rarely have to moderate that severely, but there are limits.

Back to pinball hopefully.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: andypinboy on April 08, 2015, 09:13:40 PM
ha - it really is quite scary - probably good for yr mod role!

yeah - so is anyone left standing? i am dead serious re Rock or Bust (or ac/dc best of) as a new pinny (Stern or jjp, don't mind). but am i too much of an ac/dc fan and i can't see that maybe it's been milked dry? what kind of toys, features could they add that differ from the existing machines?

and am i the only one not feeling the love for a fast n furious release?

what about a "Gibson" pinny? (sorry - one of my other hobbies).
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 08, 2015, 09:19:22 PM


OK, I am typing this while on the phone with Strangeways - these are joint comments.

Pinsanity - bringing up a members personal life is a disgrace. You possibly won't read this as you will be on holidays for a little while to consider your actions.

Caveoftreasures - retaliating to comments and attempting to moderate threads is not appropriate, nor are you responses which are also insulting. However, given the comments that sparked them, a warning only this time. In future, report posts without retaliating.



Thankyou Moderators.
Fully understood.
I will do everything humanly possible to stay away from the few I don't get along with.
Maybe you can clean up the entire thread please for all members sakes.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 08, 2015, 09:20:16 PM
I can't see Fast and Furious working as a theme.  One reason: Car themes don't seem to work, Mustang just showed that.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Cursed on April 08, 2015, 09:31:07 PM
Noooooooooooo - not fast n furious - there's enough geese in turbo jap imports as it is. low brow & it would be a HUGE mistake (not their first of course, Iron Man, cough cough...)

Haha, yes I am not a ricer fan myself but I enjoy the movies and they have moved away from the ricer scene in the last 3 or 4 movies anyway.

I can't see Fast and Furious working as a theme.  One reason: Car themes don't seem to work, Mustang just showed that.

I agree with this but I think on the inside I want a really good car themed pin to be made. I would also say that Mustang did not get the playfield to really help it either.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 08, 2015, 09:36:52 PM
My feel is that the only car theme that could carry a weak playfield is Ferarri.  But I expect it would have more success in Europe than the USA.  It's amazing to think that Ferarri has never been attempted.

...I've observed recently that most pinheads aren't into driving.  Maybe that is because pinheads are nearly all into drinking, so are used to using public transport to get to pubs!
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: pinnies4me on April 08, 2015, 09:41:42 PM

Maybe that is because pinheads are nearly all into drinking, so are used to using public transport to get to pubs!


 :lol :lol :lol

There are only a few of us it seems that are both pinheads and petrolheads. Must admit that since rediscovering pins many years ago the car nut side of me is not as nutty as it once was.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 08, 2015, 09:42:06 PM
Maybe Mustang did better in Europe and USA than here.

Mustang is actually a really really solid player with a excellent light show.
John Trudeau did a good job but it's following (Mustang) is really for diehard ford Fans, Whereis the Fast n Furios pin might attract a much wider audience. It's not a pin I would probably buy at all.
Sterns last 3 titles I loved, Star Trek, Mustang and Walking Dead but WWE isn't to my taste nor is the FNFurios movies but I think it's a game that will work well onsite ?

Borgys next title might be something completely differerent ?
That will stump us all.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Crashramp on April 08, 2015, 09:45:49 PM

...I've observed recently that most pinheads aren't into driving.

No room left in the garage for cars  %.%
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: pinnies4me on April 08, 2015, 09:49:26 PM

No room left in the garage for cars  %.%


A few weeks ago I picked up three games from Nino, and already had two in the garage (one of mine and a resto for a friend)...When I complained to my wife I didn't have enough space (four car garage!) she suggested I take the old two seater to her parents...I almost said why doesn't she just leave her car on the street, but thankfully I managed to engage brain before mouth.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: andypinboy on April 08, 2015, 09:55:07 PM
ha - hilarious. but honestly how addictive is this hobby. you guys know i'm pretty new to collecting (not to pinball) & i could easily find myself buying 20 machines if left to my own devices - but the wife is like "why do you even need two?" (yeah, I know, I have two).

I can see Ferrari working as well. Now, here's my question - why didn't Harley Davidson work??

Ps. A Ferrari pin would cost $2,000 per service each 100 games - that might be an issue.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 08, 2015, 10:00:43 PM
apparently Stern has the licenses for:

Superman
Kiss
Game of thrones
Fast and Furious

and the rumour is Borg is doing FnF

Does anyone know if Stern got the FnF licence before or after Mustang was on sale?  If before, I expect Stern would put FnF asside.

A super theme can sell almost any play field.  ACDC was a super theme, Mustang (car theme) was not.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Crashramp on April 08, 2015, 10:01:13 PM

No room left in the garage for cars  %.%


A few weeks ago I picked up three games from Nino, and already had two in the garage (one of mine and a resto for a friend)...When I complained to my wife I didn't have enough space (four car garage!) she suggested I take the old two seater to her parents...I almost said why doesn't she just leave her car on the street, but thankfully I managed to engage brain before mouth.

Lucky you pulled yourself up Nick  %.% I've been known to suffer from similar brain fades myself from time to time.
 I currently have 1 in the garage and the rest in the games room. I'll put one more in the games room (as many as the wife will let me, not that I'm under the thumb  !@)  ) and then I'll be looking at the garage a little harder. I'll likely do an extension on it so I can keep the cars in there as well as having the room for more games and space to continue restoring my games which is somthing I've really enjoyed doing.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 08, 2015, 10:03:57 PM
I can see Ferrari working as well. Now, here's my question - why didn't Harley Davidson work??

I think Harley Davidson did work - it had three production runs.

Everyone seems to hate the game, yet it had three runs.  That shows that the theme did work.  The theme alone saved what is recognised as a weak playfield.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: Crashramp on April 08, 2015, 10:06:55 PM
apparently Stern has the licenses for:

Superman
Kiss
Game of thrones
Fast and Furious

and the rumour is Borg is doing FnF

Out of those ones I'd love to see Superman and Game of Thrones the most. I'm addicted to GoT and Superman is just timeless for me. They are two titles I'd seriously look at buying, provided the game play was also great.
Title: Re: Stern USA - John Borgs next title due >
Post by: andypinboy on April 08, 2015, 10:20:06 PM
I can see Ferrari working as well. Now, here's my question - why didn't Harley Davidson work??

I think Harley Davidson did work - it had three production runs.

Everyone seems to hate the game, yet it had three runs.  That shows that the theme did work.  The theme alone saved what is recognised as a weak playfield.

That's not a bad point - not a sales failure - just not highly regarded now. So, imagine if someone did Ferrari well - you basically couldn't stuff-up the look - as long as the game play was strong it would be a grand slam pin.


Out of those I like Superman - ageless!! Kiss too hard an act to follow (just my opinion), GoT okay but I'm just not a big fan of the tv-series pins. If Stern has Superman & does it well then the sky's the limit.
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Post by: GORGAR 1 on April 08, 2015, 10:35:18 PM
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Post by: Crashramp on April 08, 2015, 10:49:17 PM
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/04/08/df24b968fd9d603ead269aaba124e8ac.jpg)

So Superman for you too Peter?  %.%

Don't worry I think Kiss would be cool as well, hopefully it's as good as it should be. I know a lot of you real Kiss fans have waited a long time for this and would want this one to be somthing very special.
I'll be first in line for your un-boxing!
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Post by: andypinboy on April 08, 2015, 10:54:09 PM
Ooooops - sorry - didn't realise a huge fan was present!! Just saying the old version pin is quite iconic... However, I bet that tongue cld tell a few stories, kind of don't like it pointed at me (where's CoT with his disinfectant).
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Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 08, 2015, 10:55:32 PM
Thinking about the timing, TWD was released not long after it was announced that Stern got the Kiss licence.  JPop took his non playable prototype to Chicago expo I think (oct 2014), only to have the licence granted to Stern just a few weeks after.  So the timing is right that Borg could have been given KISS immediately after TWD, with instruction to get this done ASAP.

KISS would have wanted to rush out the game out to coincide with their just released album - something that Stern probably explained to the KISS marketing people was not achievable by JPop.  Stern probably passed the game to the person they feel is their fastest designer - the master John Borg.


...This has to be a KISS machine!
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Post by: GORGAR 1 on April 08, 2015, 11:07:31 PM
Gee I hope it's KISS the dam money is burning a hole in my pocket  *%* Stern I'd like a color small LCD similar size to the frankenstein DMD. I have tickets to there two Melbourne shows in October so release it before then please and I'm happy with John Borg designing it :)
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Post by: Retropin on April 08, 2015, 11:11:44 PM
Gee I hope it's KISS and the dam money is burning a hole in my pocket  *%* Stern I'd like a color small LCD similar size to the frankenstein DMD

I hope it lives up to your expectations.. this is not a pin that Stern can miss the mark on
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Post by: andypinboy on April 08, 2015, 11:15:04 PM
They play music yeah?
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Post by: GORGAR 1 on April 08, 2015, 11:20:01 PM
Gee I hope it's KISS and the dam money is burning a hole in my pocket  *%* Stern I'd like a color small LCD similar size to the frankenstein DMD

I hope it lives up to your expectations.. this is not a pin that Stern can miss the mark on

Fingers crossed :)
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Post by: andypinboy on April 08, 2015, 11:31:01 PM
I think BB is correct. I hope Borg doesn't get mixed up and put out a flying gene simmons with square glasses. My guess is Kiss (John Howard backflip on that one) & if not then it's Superman. If it's fast n furious Stern will go out of business.
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Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 09, 2015, 04:47:30 AM
It's hard to say what it is going to be ?

Could be anything ?

A few things have changed for Stern in the last 2 years.
Not as many release videos being done to well after production has started and a decreasing amount of media and title leaks. I think it's a good marketing strategy in a way. Both the Stern Dealers and the public rush to buy the game so no one misses out.

As long as it doesn't keep driving the Pro pricing up I will stay happy.

If it's a Borg design, it should be a success no matter what.

We will soon see who guessed the title right or not.
I heard Steve Ritchie was doing KISS so I am thinking something else and I am not sold yet on it being a car Pinny like FastnFurious.

Anyone else got any guesses.
I also heard Game of Throne series has been totally cancelled mid season due to low USA buy up rates on their networks. Canned mid filming. Don't think Game of Thrones.

Could be a totally different theme to what we have or haven't guessed yet ?
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Post by: swinks on April 09, 2015, 08:15:57 AM
I reckon Ritchie will do Superman as it was stated somewhere that he has been given a good amount of time to design his pin.
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Post by: Freiherr on April 09, 2015, 09:26:45 AM
I reckon Ritchie will do Superman as it was stated somewhere that he has been given a good amount of time to design his pin.
or Super Flash,  30 years on.
Steve must be close to retirement.
Very interesting wait and see.
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Post by: nath2099 on April 09, 2015, 09:50:13 AM
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I also heard Game of Throne series has been totally cancelled mid season due to low USA buy up rates on their networks. Canned mid filming. Don't think Game of Thrones.

I highly doubt that. There was apparently a dodgy link circling Facebook, but that's all I can find about it. April fools gag, possibly?

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Post by: Strangeways on April 09, 2015, 09:53:46 AM
I'm hoping for two things ;

John Trudeau to design the KISS machine
The Originals depicted in the artwork - small references to past members acceptable

If the artwork depicts the cover band line up - It will flop - no matter who builds it or designs it. The current US tour is over. They will be concentrating on the Euro Festivals and the tour downunder.

Trudeau just completed Wrestlemania - so I really doubt he has done KISS and therefore it can't be next. Game of Thrones is about to air the new season, and the first episode will be the most downloaded TV show in history. So perfect timing for the new Stern. Would be a marketing coup to get the game ready now.

The more they delay the KISS game, the better it will sell. I'm told that the band have 1 or 2 world tours and then they are done.

In fact, do the KISS game LAST - because if they do finally close the curtain for the last time, it would be a "one off show" with the original line up.. That would be massive.
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Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 09, 2015, 07:42:05 PM
A few great ideas from different people.

Question - will Steve Ritchie ever really retire ? Like Gary Stern, Steve has said he will never stop working unless he is to unwell to get to the office. I imagine it would be very hard to retire from something you love so much.
Johnny Borg being so young, he has soo many years left to design so many great titles.
I hope Gary and Steve live another 20 years plus. Borgy has 40 yrs left hopefully.

Game of Thrones - so many rumours saying it is finishing up but these Internet rumours could be on the money or tottally off the mark. I know it was having much slower $ pick up rates by USA networks and was only a third of TWDead views per week. It's rare Euro made series do so well in the USA. Hope it does stay and a great pin it would be.

I really thought Steve Ritchie was promised KISS if it got made.
I thought Steve would be great if he was to do KISS.
Either way, it seems the team design philosophy at Stern now puts out a better product.

I like George Gonez but I am not a huge fan of his pinball tables. Not the flow of Borgy or Steve or Trudeau.

What about a Big Bang Theory Pinball ? (Don't laugh, I like the show and the wit !)
Aren't all of us pinball fans the new age liked Nerds of 2015. Lol

Any more ideas as to what Borgys title is going to be ?
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Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 09, 2015, 08:20:39 PM
An interesting cartoon picture on Sterns Facebook page is a Stern technician wearing a white coat who has X Ray googles on.
He is staring at three pinball machines, all sitting side by side. (Pro, Premium and LE models ?)

All the models have Alien skeletons inside each of the three games and the three alien skeletons are all different.

Someone said Stern recently asked what was your favourite spaceship.

Is this weird picture a hint towards an upcoming pinball title related to Sci Fi.

The only Sci Fi picture I have seen where the main character uses X Ray style goggles was
Guardians of the Galaxy. It also featured a spaceship.

Is this just a Stern throw off tease or is there something in it.

Check out Sterns Facebook page and see what you make of it. Weird clue ?
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Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 09, 2015, 09:03:35 PM
Intersting to not that the Stern Facebook picture of the person with X-ray goggles look at aliens' skeletons in side three pinball machines, also has a 'Stern Pinball' logo on the bottom right.  That says Stern went out of their way to do this drawing.  It looks like a Greg Freres style cartoon.  So if its not just a random internet picture, the effort could lead people to think it is a hint to their next pin.  Crafty's note about Guardians Of The Galaxy use of X-Ray goggles makes sense.  Perhaps the front runner is GOTG?

Stern's posted 'What is your favorite spaceship?' on their Facebook page on 26 March.


PS
I reckon a Big Bang Theory would work well as a theme - it appeals to pinheads, and new audiences.

PSS
I'd file for divorce if my wife stopped me from buying a Prince 'Purple Rain' pinball machine.  Unluckily for my wife, I can't see anyone doing that theme.  It would be her opertunity to rid herself of me.
$#$
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Post by: Crashramp on April 09, 2015, 09:23:11 PM

Game of Thrones - so many rumours saying it is finishing up but these Internet rumours could be on the money or tottally off the mark. I know it was having much slower $ pick up rates by USA networks and was only a third of TWDead views per week. It's rare Euro made series do so well in the USA. Hope it does stay and a great pin it would be.


Just rumours I'd say Cavey. Next season starts in a week and last season was HBO's biggest hit of all time.

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2014/jun/06/game-of-thrones-most-popular-hbo-show-sopranos

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Post by: Brunswick Brawler on April 09, 2015, 10:09:46 PM
I just realised I keep referring to 'Cavey' as 'Crafty'.  Sorry about that.
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Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 09, 2015, 10:24:34 PM
I just realised I keep referring to 'Cavey' as 'Crafty'.  Sorry about that.

Classic. Wish I was crafty but I am too blatant and would never make a diplomat.
Politicians are crafty buggers. Anyone who gets ten times the usual super us mugs get must be so crafty, you could call them magicians. Lol

P.s - just re watched The Battle to Save Pinball for a bit of fun.
Showed every Williams guy but not anyone like Borgy or Gary Stern in the first movie.
It's good to see all the cream of the pinball industry ended up at Stern.
One interesting thing, Pat Lawlor who designed Addams Family to name a few, said in the movie that video screens in pinballs don't work together. He must have changed his mind all these years later if he is doing the next title for Jack at JJP.

I reckon Stern should do a 1 hour promo film about Stern Pinball featuring Borgy and all its new staff.

Sort of a "We kept Pinball Alive and Won" or something catchy for all us pinheads.
Good promo for pinball and for Stern and all the great people thriving in pinball today.
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Post by: Pinballace on April 12, 2015, 01:23:48 PM


Anyone else got any guesses.
I also heard Game of Throne series has been totally cancelled mid season due to low USA buy up rates on their networks. Canned mid filming. Don't think Game of Thrones.



Once again you prove that you're lack of knowledge doesn't preclude you from voicing you're ignorance by posting on this forum.  GOT is NOT being cancelled, in fact they just renewed for the 6th season before number 5 is premiered.  You really should refrain from posting just for the f sake of posting. 
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Post by: Caveoftreasures on April 15, 2015, 02:20:08 AM


Anyone else got any guesses.
I also heard Game of Throne series has been totally cancelled mid season due to low USA buy up rates on their networks. Canned mid filming. Don't think Game of Thrones.



Once again you prove that you're lack of knowledge doesn't preclude you from voicing you're ignorance by posting on this forum.  GOT is NOT being cancelled, in fact they just renewed for the 6th season before number 5 is premiered.  You really should refrain from posting just for the f sake of posting. 

Wash your mouth with soap at a minimum.
I said I heard a rumour etc. I didn't say it was fact. It was then to get other people feedback which was different to the info I had seen online and on TV.
I actually watched a USA affairs show which made various claims about the show and they made black n white statements. I never said they were correct but simply mentioned what I had heard so get off your high horse.

Do u think because you supply n build ramps for the pinball scene you have the right to speak to me disrespectfully.
And before you think you are all mighty, I asked you years ago if u had Bugs Bunny ramps n for years I got no progress. I asked Mark C once and he had them custom made for me within a few weeks !

Also, I respected your mate from RTBB and suggested some nice things for the forum to permanently remember him by the electronic banners with gone fishing etc, so get off my case with your rudeness. Thankyou !
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Post by: andypinboy on April 15, 2015, 08:17:05 PM
Pinballace, s'pose you don't have some pristine demo man ramps by any chance?   %$%