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Title: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: el_timbo86 on April 29, 2015, 12:15:56 AM
Trying to post a little more of our work here for 2015,

This Genie playfield came in and was in need of a rework. Overall a good example, and a standard sort of starting point.
Here are a few shots of the playfield as received from the client...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428221653-5ca79725.jpg)

(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428221657-9ff0d23a.jpg)

The major flaw with this example (possible many) is the damage to the upper area of the playfield. Obviously this was going to be an area of attention...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428221703-c55b24d2.jpg)

Other things that stood out to us was the typical ball swirl through most colours, and the insert rings/silhouettes...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428221714-c9d6fe24.jpg)

(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428221718-c254025f.jpg)

Moving along, preparing the playfield for our first stage. Thorough cleaning and sanding of the original artwork/finish...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428221736-19d59486.jpg)

Cleaning up the shooter lane at this stage as well...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428221811-0626f2ad.jpg)

Result, moving along...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428221821-12842425.jpg)

Fast forward a little, playfield is in the booth and ready to clear for the first time. Pre-Diamond Plate playfields are more sensitive to the two-part paint system we use, so we use an adhesion promoter to aid this initial step...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428221839-8c15bae6.jpg)

Playfield is cleared and we can now begin our refinishing process on a nice clean, consistent surface...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428221907-055e0c7f.jpg)

(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428221924-89af1124.jpg)

Flattening down the finish...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428221931-1b3e847f.jpg)

Playfield is masked and first colour to go down is the yellow. Anyone who has restored a playfield using spray/airbrush will appreciate the time carefully masking all the lines and curves of each colour section...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428221942-dd18c8f6.jpg)

Roughing in all the yellow in the top area...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428221945-db4c9fb6.jpg)

Yellow finished...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428221949-09187c81.jpg)

Unmasked...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428221957-15e1965d.jpg)

Purple...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222019-1d15c01e.jpg)

This picture may look a little weird, but i just wanted to point out just how 'off' the white is. I have found that refinishing the white areas of an aged playfield with a clean 'bright' white can actually make the playfield look inconsistent, and draws attention to your repair. I know people will have their own opinion on this but this is what we have found to leave the most natural look...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222039-38e968f7.jpg)

'white' refinished...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222042-3f61e61a.jpg)

In the booth again, we have completed alot of the colour work, and the playfield needs to be further levelled. Good chance to seal everything up and move toward the final repaints...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222101-ddcdfb54.jpg)

Cleared again...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222124-53724d53.jpg)

Cured and sanded, ready for the next stage...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222148-50da0b5e.jpg)

Where possible, we will always leave the timber natural - sometimes we have no choice but to correct. In this instance, you can see the timber has been 'sunburnt' and has left the shadow of the flippers and wireforms. As per the Addams project we documented, over thinning your colour at this stage is important so you can still see the different colours of the timber through the paint...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222152-5231fbe2.jpg)

Shooter lane needs to be cleaned up too...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222156-40a8f3a9.jpg)

Upper area also needs a look...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222201-9b721eca.jpg)

Masked and refinished as sparingly as possible...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222211-db546737.jpg)

Lettering is added to the top section, starting to come together now...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222256-a71ea6ed.jpg)

Overall starting to present like a nice playfield again...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222300-32b40d90.jpg)

Putting in the black keylines now and things are starting to come together...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222317-5d768f31.jpg)

In the booth hopefully for the final time...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222331-f5d64fd3.jpg)

Upper section is looking nice now...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222350-458c2e7d.jpg)

(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222354-979dfafd.jpg)

Everything looks nice now...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222406-1e78d8fb.jpg)

Ready to sand and polish, owner can come and take it away  $#$
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222414-8b749b6a.jpg)

Finished pictures of the playfield...
(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222422-93584271.jpg)

(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222427-0d940c68.jpg)

(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222441-ad6da67d.jpg)

(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222450-a3fcb2de.jpg)

(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222455-64f4ad2e.jpg)

(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222459-84053d4e.jpg)

(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222504-a3487e19.jpg)

(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222522-0d06f034.jpg)

(http://pinsbytim.com.au/photos/upload/2015/04/28/20150428222445-de0a5a26.jpg)


Thanks for reading guys,

Tim and Co
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: ddstoys on April 29, 2015, 12:39:58 AM
To late but save me some of that purple
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: el_timbo86 on April 29, 2015, 12:54:00 AM
To late but save me some of that purple

Got the tin here dude - when you out next?  *%*
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: oldskool1969 on April 29, 2015, 01:23:51 AM
Tech question. How do you go with star roll overs when the thickness of clear coat makes them a little harder to hit as the surface area is below the level of play field?. The roll over is slightly sunken beyond the level of clear coat and you loose some of the actuation? ( hope that makes sense ) I have a SC which Nino did for me and you virtually have to hit them smack bang in the middle for them to register. The switch contacts underneath I have adjusted to with in a bees dick, so it is almost touching. Not a bad thing, just be nice if it was a little easier to hit.
Cheers.
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: Strangeways on April 29, 2015, 09:05:35 AM
Looks great Tim. Well done on the ball arch area - I cheated and used a decal !
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: Pintoxicated on April 29, 2015, 09:38:56 AM
Awesome!!!!!!!
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: andypinboy on April 29, 2015, 09:53:00 AM
Wow. Just wow! Love seeing the transformation - especially how different steps add to the final result. Great stuff.
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: swinks on April 29, 2015, 10:38:20 AM
beautiful work  ^^^
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: MartyJ on April 29, 2015, 11:11:18 AM
Great work Tim & Co.

Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: Freiherr on April 29, 2015, 11:12:02 AM
First wish from customer, “restore playfield to better than new condition”.
Great work Genie!
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: Crashramp on April 29, 2015, 12:43:27 PM
Great stuff Tim, thanks for sharing. I love these restoration threads. Always interesting and always amazing work.
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: skywalker on April 29, 2015, 01:25:01 PM
Well done & looks like a ton of work involved  ^^^


Any chance you can say how many hours invested into this PF resto
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: el_timbo86 on April 29, 2015, 02:35:24 PM
Well done & looks like a ton of work involved  ^^^


Any chance you can say how many hours invested into this PF resto


Thanks for the kind words all. Yes in this particular playfield there were roughly 30 hours to get it done.  ^^^
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: andypinboy on April 29, 2015, 03:27:42 PM
Not surprised at all there is 30 hours in this - & if you cut even one of those hours it wouldn't be the final product it is. It is a pristine show-piece that will play fast & I suspect last 20, 30 maybe 40 years in a home use environment & still look good (if looked after).
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: GORGAR 1 on April 29, 2015, 04:47:59 PM
Wow that looks sensational well done :)
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: intopins on April 29, 2015, 05:03:33 PM
Beautiful work Tim.

Any chance you can release the average cost of restore please? Wondering if I look into this for a couple pf'ds?
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: el_timbo86 on April 29, 2015, 05:42:18 PM
Beautiful work Tim.

Any chance you can release the average cost of restore please? Wondering if I look into this for a couple pf'ds?

Yes this is probably the question we get asked the most. Its really hard to average out a price for these jobs as they are all unique but i think posting an average price for each era of playfield. eg - CPR Repro (or other), Bally Williams mid 90's (Diamond Plate), Data East, Bally Williams System 11, Bally/Williams/Gottlieb SS (80s) will help people make a more informed decision.

We have also been doing a lot of 're-clears' for a few Aussie Pinball members of late on Diamond Plate NOS and CPR/Mirco reproduction playfields. Minor repairs/fixes carried out and premium clear, sand and machine polish. Due to the interest in this, and the consistency of enquiries - we are looking at offering a fixed price for this particular service (re-clear), and this could possibly be handled between APR and HRP if using Nino's service as well.

I will do a seperate post for the price guide so as to not derail this one too much  @@^
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: big dog on April 30, 2015, 09:36:03 PM
truly beautiful work , lovin the skill involved
Title: Re: HRP Genie playfield...
Post by: howzat on April 30, 2015, 11:53:11 PM
very very nice

I have a genie that Mitch did for me  its a great game   Im sure the owner will luv  your work    Howzat